00:00:08 Speaker 1: This is me eater podcast coming in you shirtless, severely bog bitten and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You can't predict anything. What's up, guys, how's everybody doing tonight? Awesome Texas. It's Ryan from Eddie out there, Ryan Sears. Yeah, there he is, he's quiet. Watch watch how slickly I uh I do this? Um, I hope he's enjoying those shades boots. Oh sponsor alert man. Uh if this is our third of our of our lives to it is the third show we've done in Texas. Yeah, yeah, that does mean we really love Texas. Must mean you think yet people always right in Like there was a question I had that I was gonna look at tonight and it begins like, I know y'all hate Texas. We'll get to the question just to show how much we love Texas, will get to it. But Texas, like I feel so Texas is as proud as uh y'all are with the you know, not massive with Texas and um Davy Crockett and everything. There's there's there's like Texas have a persecution complex. Yea. I was always there's a there's a there's a persecution complex here, Like, how much? Yeah, honest, how much have we we filmed here? All of the I feel like we we practically live in Texas. Practically. Yeah, well, we've at least one a pig trapping episode here. You're down here hunting out at and have Lena once twice? What else have we done? Came down hunted quail, not filming, hunted jack rabbits while hunting quail, not filming. We're hunting turkeys tomorrow, not filming. One time, my wife was offered a job in Texas. We went to do our little checkout to take a look at it. We went to the people who are trying to hire her, hat us to dinner. I was gonna stand up and say, like, she'll take it, because we've been driving over bridges every bridge I looked off. It looked like a good place to fish. I started calling my kid, start calling my kid Jimmy catfish, just an anticipation of moving here. My wife didn't take the job, so I almost was a damn Texan. I think that for people in Texas to stop thinking that we don't like Texas, I'd have to show up down here with elephant skin boots and shelled corn coming out of my pockets. They'd be like, here's it, Texan. Did you know do you guys know that that your state has no regulations on owning a tiger? Cal was just telling me that there are estimates out there that they're that Texas has the second largest tiger population next to India, so many cats that you guys can't even keep track of them. All you can find are estimates on the tiger population in Texas. The estimates for like two to five thousand. They know with greater certainty how many grizzly bears live in Montana than they do how many tigers Texans? How many tigers Texans have? His pets and the numbers are comparable. People down here like, yeah, that's a normal move on. The question from the dude that that those we all hate Texas is uh. He was saying any tips for keeping his buyal was from fogging up in the cold. He says, it's been in the teens lately in North Texas. Could it possibly be true? It's true, it's true. I mean he probably thinks teens. He's thinking it's like forty five degrees, Like, boy, it's been in the teens. When I first moved to Austin. I was driving down the highway. It was like thirty degrees and there was no cars. I was like, oh, I thought there was traffic. I got to work and they were like, uh, hey man, how did you get here. I was like, well, I just I drove on the road. They're like, well, it's really cold. There could have been nice. It's like like, well, uh, it turns out there wasn't any and they're like I was like, so, what's up. I was like, well, it's a two hour delay. The kids can't go to school, they don't have jackets, they can't sit in the bus stops, like, come on, man, come on Texas. Uh. In the case it does get cold on here, keeping you from vinals from fogging up, telling me Honnie, because the camera guys are good at this, yeah, well you don't want to. Usually our cameras always fogged up when we go from um cold a warm, So you just don't want to, Like I don't know, I don't put your mind on so close to your body maybe and don't breathe into them, keeping warm close to your body cold warm. More used to take a cigarette lighter and heat up his lenses terribly wrong. And that's right. Remember lenses with a with a with a pocket rocket. Yeah, for you aspiring filmmakers, don't go to British Columbia. It's gonna dang your budget. Quick note, who's doing anything on Friday? On Friday? If you don't have plans? Were doing the screening of our documentary Stars in the Sky. The money will it's at the It's at the Eddy Flagship Store. The money goes to benefit Texas Parks of Wildlife, specifically Desert big horn sheep specifically does are big horns. So there's still so there's still some tickets left. So while we're sitting here, I don't ready. I would normally if I saw you messing with your phone on a normal circumstances, I would hate you. But if you're messing with your phone, I'll just assume that Feller was buying a ticket. It's a Hunter Bucks. It's a p M on Friday right here in Austin, Texas. You get an exclusive event only tumbler. You get a copy of the Meat Eater Fishing Game Cookbook, which is available everywhere books are sold. There's a you're already making money by going to this thing. Go to the meat or Facebook page under events and get yourself a ticket hunter Bucks going do good cause. Now, uh, this is gonna sound like I'm dogging on Texas. I am not messing with Texas. I have read the bumper stickers, but you're This state has a great website where you can go and read about all the things Texas game wardens are up to and just become my favorite way to kill time. Some people like go on Facebook when they're just trying to have a brain dead moment. I go and read about Texas game wardens. Anybody here from Mattagorda County is am? I saying it right? Okay? Game board and gets a call about a deer line on the side of the road with a crossbow bolt sticking out of it. He goes over to have a look. See. Fifty yards down the road he finds a guy asleep in a truck. He's got a seatbelt on, his windows open, sound asleep. He's got a loaded crossboard bowl with the safety off on the driver's seat and a loaded cross boat with the safety on on the back seat. A quick glance confirms that his bolts next to his sleeping body match those in the deer that he shot and then took a nap down the road in Henderson County, game board and gets called by the guy out jack lighting deer again. This fella has a loaded crossbow and multiple flashlights in his truck, but he's like the opposite of a sleep because he's also got a stash of meth in. In Houston County, awarden gets a call about some people doing some illegal hunting. He goes over to the house where his fols he's taking place, and you know, he sees a woman book into a house and she's messing around with an ice chest upon with I'm assuming this is not a YETI and you'll understand why sitting upon said ice chest is a six point box head. But she's already run off into the house. He cuts around in the backyard. There's another box head in the backyard lying not far from the bus head is her prison I D card. He's able to look her up. She's got two felony arrest warrants. They bring in a track and dog and find her under a pile of her own dirty laundry, which is quote wedged between the washer and dryer. When you're laundry, when You're laundry has become quote wedged somewhere. It's different than like in a basket. Uh, you know, because I don't want to dog on Texas. I'm on dog on my home state for a minute, because I know I'm reading like bad. Like the sensitivities here run high. So a dude in Michigan, this is just just this just happened due to Michigan, goes into a pet store called I Love My Pets and ask some questions about the snakes that are for sale. They leave him to be He then, on a security camera, puts a four ft ball python down his pants, spends four minutes in the store with the snake in his pants. There are so many jokes you can make so easily that I'm not gonna make them. It's it's harder to not make the jokes than it doesn't make the jokes. Walks around, buys a rat for six bucks. Say there's some things I just don't put down my pants. He uh, buys a rat for six bucks, walks out. They still haven't found the guy in Texas. He'd be dead by now. Or It's like Texas wardens are either good or Michigan criminals are good. But the Texas game war and articles always end with the suspect apprehended, and this guy was not apprehended. Unrelated to all this, Uh, I'm walking down the road there, Dan, I passed. There's a waffle shop in downtown Boseman. It's like a famous breakfast place there, and they got a sign out that says, we love hashtags like social media hashtags, because we love hashtags because they look like waffles. And they got me to thinking, have they thought the me too movement was people who are just also hungry for breakfast? I was sure this is where the podcast was gonna go off the rails, and it's terrible. We were we recently layout the tune of situation how we've been talking about the tune of the expensive tune in how you mislet everyone and had to do a correction. Oh right, right, right, rightful everybody that recently the tune it was bought for like was it a million plus or two million plus? And then it happened every year and it was sort of it was bad because it put a price on this fish that's gonna be over fish if people are getting two million dollars for these fish all the time, but it turns out that that first fish always just gets that kind of money in a um ceremonial buying and um as it's been putting numerous times now. It's a nick swinging contest um in Japan for the dudes that roll in and spend the most money on the first tune and it comes to market of the season, so the next one after that, I don't know. I forget what the numbers. Yeah, I wrote pecker swinging in my notes because I heard several people who are bringing youngsters are bringing this back to one brings to the reason I bring the tune thing up is someone pointed out that there's a similar thing that happens at youth livestock auctions where there are ceremonial purchases, and just recently in Houston, we're here in the Great State of Texas, they had to use livestock auction where they shattered every single junior livestock auction world record in ten days. Some kid gets eighty three thousand dollars for a damn goat. A turkey goes for a most been a high fence. A turkey goes for a d Some kid gets a broiler chicken. She gets to twenty dollars for her broiler chicken. The grand champions steer six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. The guy that wasn't about this says, and this is why Texas is the greatest state. I looked through the photos from the event where you can look at all the animals and the people behind it. And if you think that there were not a lot of people wearing stats and hats and black sports colts, you'd be wrong. You'd be wrong for thinking that. Um I had we had an interesting note come in. She doesn't identify state, and I can't identify in factually, she begins to note, but she says, before you read this email, I'm I'm quoting. She even put an asterisk next to it, which I think is for emphasis. She says, before you read this email, note that if anyone reads this to the public in any form or fashion and mentions my name, I will hunt you down and gut you like a fish. She explained, she's a mother of two. What's that go on? She's a mother of two. We were recently talking about battle scars, like what's the worst outdoor scar you had? And she said that was pitiful. We had pitiful scars. She was big into sports and she was big into hunting. And she's sixteen years old. She gets back from volleyball practice, which ran late, and she grabs her twenty gates shotgun and runs out to the family's milo field. The hunt doves. It does doesn't change her clothes, so she's got her volleyball clothes on and she has a run a half mile then jump a fence, and she usually kind of like climbs over the fence, but she she's in such a hurry. She tries a half climb and half jump and gets on the bar or gets up on the wire and the post tips and she falls on it and getting and lands on the ground and feels blood running all over her stomach and looks up and she's gashed her nipple horribly and passes out. So she wakes up a while later, she's sixteen years old, looks and she realizes that the barb was cut through her shirt through her sports bra, opened her nipple up. She lives in a town of two thousand people. She's real nervous about words spreading. Goes down her best friend's dad's the doctor. He puts eight stitches in it. She goes on to say that her husband called that one scarface, which she signs it. She signs it secretively. But um, I liked the story, but then I got to the part where my husband called past tense. And then now I spent all my time worrying about what happened to the husband. He never got caught that sneak in his pants. Oh, it could mean three things. It would mean they split up, he passed, or he called that one scar face, but then never called it that again. Got it like a fish, Got it like the fish. I like that. Gal. If you out on a first day and got that story thrown at me, I'd be like, buddy, I'm in Yeah. I would not like hold that as a negative. Do do you gotta tell you that? I had several people and be like, oh boy, you guys a scar stories or kind of sissy. We didn't have any good ones. But I was like, well, yeah, but the point is it's like experience, and you know who is better to follow into the woods, like an old wise person with no scars or an old wise person with lots of scars. Yeah, right, probably the person with no scars. Yeah, if you said, um, so I followed this horribly scarred man into the woods, he should have seen his nipples. Let me tell you about the other nipples, said, trust me, I know the way back back to Michigan. This is to put an issue to bed. I talked a lot about So I grew up in Tonight, Michigan, and down the road from us you had to take, I think it wrote down Duff Road, Duff turned dirt. You go down the dirt Near's twin Light gun Club. And I was talking about how I'm not mistaken. You don't you get into the foggy recesses of your memory, like the things you kind of feel like you remember, but you can't health you just heard it or remembered it. And I was saying, I feel as though when I was a youngster, they would steak like tie up a turkey behind a pilot dirt in contestants. This sounds horrible. Contestants would shoot at the turkey and whoever hit the turkey brought it home and ate it. But then I was like, that can't be true. I must be misremembering. My buddy Craig Christensen rolled in. He goes Nope, you are not mistaken. He says. My dad took one of those turkeys home didn't shot, and he remembers his dad had oh six and he used it for all these tournaments that were at the gun club down the road from my house. He says. Not only did they have a thing where they would stake at turkey out and shoot at it, they would hang dynamite from string and shoot at that. And I was called a dynamite shoot, not to be confused with a turkey shoot. And then they had a burger shoot. He was saying, in a burger shoot, you didn't shoot burger, but you shot a target in one burger. This is like the end of nature would be that you shoot a target and wind ground beef. Um. He goes on to say that this old man swapped that twenty five oh six for a quote dinky wooden boat, and that he's still pissed at him. Last bit of Michigan news, Uh, you know, the Michigan hello, which someone the middle finger, which someone who wasn't described it as the finger of fellowship to talk about in his area, gets thrown. It gets thrown so much as a hello that it is now regarded as the finger of fellowship and it's not A dude was from like North Dakota or Nebraska, not even close to Michigan. But he felt as though, Yeah, I just realized I gave three from figure people from Texas a finger just now, and they're probably really pissed. A man and not one. Everybody's like, oh, that just that nice bearded young gentleman just said hello. Uh hips her on the m fetuck the US. No, I don't want it. I don't want it. A Michigan woman just tested her constitutional right to throw the Michigan Hello, which is way off topic for us do we tend to focus on wildlife and fishing and whatnot. But becomes interesting because it's interesting to me. She gets pulled over by a policeman for speeding and he writes her up for a lesser violation. Okay, so whatever, you whatever, that is lesson speeding, and you're sure it was for speeding. She pulled over for speeding, so he was being a nice guy. He's being nice. He's like, gonna let you off for whatever whatever. What do they call it, I don't know, let's just say kind of speeding. She got sight of the kind of speeding. She a non moving violation. It is what the artist. That's what it said, A non moving violation. That doesn't really help expose. We had a traffic cop here. There you go. All right, we'll go with that. There you go to hang you for that in Texas, but in Michigan. But you and a T shirt and a button in Michigan. He writes her the thing, and then they finish, and so she's got a lesser thing, and she decides to as she drives off, give him of Michigan Hello, or perhaps the Michigan goodbye. So he then re pulls her over, re pulls her over, and then gives her the speeding ticket. She appeals this to a federal appeals court, and they rule that she has a constitutional right to give an officer of Michigan Hello if she feels like it. I don't know how I feel about this. I feel real good about it, you feel good about it. My demeanor when I get pulled over, my demeanors be like I started off by being I am so sorry. I am so sorry. I'm not saying even any cops of finger. I just want the right to do that if ever I feel the need. Yeah, like it's like, Um, it's not one of those things that gives me patriotic stirrings, but it's one of those things where I recognize, I can recognize. I reckon. It's nice to live in a place I guess to be like, it's nice to live in a place where, if you so desire, despite your upbringing, two say hello into that fashion to an officer of the piece, you would theoretically be allowed to do so. So you're kind of celebrating this lady on one hand, and then on the other you're like, oh my gosh, officer, I'm so sorry. You're correct. If I saw her, I would give her the Michigan Hello, but it would be I would put my thumb out or whatever you need to do to make it different, to make it more stinging. Um, okay, here's a good question. If you're, uh, you're fishing somewhere okay, and you're doing good and someone comes up and they say, hey, man, are you catching anything? Yeah? See is that immoral? No? If I'm not mistaken, there's this there. There's a book called the Good Book, and they get I think they give you ten rules. They got to narrow down to ten things. One month's da'sn't do? And when only ten, like, of all the bad things you can do in the whole world, they come up with ten, and and that manages to make the list. I changed the subject real fast. You answer a question with a question, My god, is that a nice sunset? What kind of shades are those? Nice? Half? Every day is a good day of fishing. Yeah, that's a good to put it. I don't. I call it sam back and I don't like it. What do you do? Then? You do not lie? Spreading love? Man? Let me come on catching a bunch of fish. Well, yeah, it just happened to me once where Um, we killed the cow elk and she was, I don't know, a couple three miles back from the road, we packed out half and as we're getting ready to going for the second half. Um, I remember this part of the two was a buddy dan. I was like, man, we have those beers now, like, no, bro, like, we definitely need to go and get the second load. And then wow, that becas gonna be too tired later to drink. Yeah right, and uh, this fellow pulls up in an a t on a TV with his I think it was his nephew on the back whatever, and he starts asking us about the how the hunt went, where we got where we got the cow and whatnot, and uh Dan wanted to just just be like telling him that it was farther than it was or or or and just kind of not give any details about it. And I'm like, why lie about it, man, Like I was, you know, because but I didn't like about it either. The guy on the A t V s saying like, oh well, he actually was like, oh well, good things to three miles back. I don't want to put this poor kid through something like that when would like yelk hunting, you know, so we're looking for one that we can just pop off the A t V. I'm thinking, like, what's wrong with the world, you know, No, like I wanted to just bring the kid along and having truck up there and maybe run into another one, you know. So anyhow, Yeah, I don't know. It's just like from that moment on, I've always just been like pretty free wheel with my hunt. Effisient information in the woods. Uh I might have mentioned before we were spring bear hunt one time and there was an avalanche shoot you could see from the road and kill the bear on the avalanche shoot and skinned it and everything. And then later I'm standing there with this dude my brother used to hang out with, and I comes up and says, hey, you guys seeing anything and he says no, and that made me feel bad. But then the guy looks at his pants, which he's like, got blood from the knee down on his pants, and he says, well, looks like someone got something. And he looks some straight at the face. It goes, that's just some old rabbit blood. Remember, feeling like this has gone too far. I Uh, on the fishing thing, I say things like yeah, it's okay, or yeah we're doing having a you know, decent getting a few. But I can't be like, no, my boy weird fishing perch. And the guy comes up and yells us how we're doing and asked if we're getting to you. My boy said a boatload. Then you gotta be like you know, he's prone to hyperbole. I stopped a couple on the road this year during meal of your season and Idaho and uh, you know, truck's coming this way. I'm driving down this way and I had just stopped and looked at a you know a little three by three mule deer buck on the side of the road, like a hundred and fifty yards from the road, and uh kind of waved him down. It's the last day of the season, it said. Couple, husband, wife, I assume, and uh, I'm like, hey, all you get you guys out looking for mule deer and the guys like stone face and the ladies kind of like and I'm like, well, there's a buck, you know, right over here if if you guys still have a tag and and he's just like staring, like sizing me up, and she's like, yeah, where is it. I'm like, oh, I'll just like parking that unimproved camp site over there and then just look up and the deer's right on the on the hillside and you'll have to cross the creek. But the deer's right there. And he was just having none of it. He was like, she's get this whole thing over with. Yeah, and she's like, great, here off side of the road. Here we go. He think he didn't believe you, Yeah, I truly think he was like nope, like something something's not right here. Yeah, dude, just messing with me. Yeah, like like we're gonna miss something. Because we're tracking down there. But I tried to pay it forward. I guess what I'm saying. It was the mustache cow. He saw that mustaches, Like dah, that guy's up to no good. He's like, I need I need to before I go up there. I'm gonna need to see this boy's nipples. Man, you don't fish much? What do you? What do you do? What do I do? If you're cashing much? If you were cashing much, if I was conceptually as a hipster um take a long pull them of eight pen talking into your your leather trimmed ape, your labor is apron, zip up my vest, and then I would say no. What like when people say no is your is your idea that it's such a finite amount of available things there that you like and you you're doing You're already doing good. You're doing a good enough he hasn't to lie about, and your thing is like, I am doing good. I don't know who this person is. There's such a finite amount of the resource that I would just rather that they didn't do good so I could continue to do a little bit good. I'm playing Devil's advocate here, but yeah, I would be thinking to other things that I did that were nice, like, oh, I remember that time I helped that lady across the street. Therefore, therefore, no, because I'm a good person. I'm just choosing to be selfish right now alright where you size them up and you're like have you earned this? And you give them a good once over and you're like nope. What if it's uh, little children in bonnets, like old fashioned frairy children that off, I would look at them and be like, you folks are gonna take every fish out of here, put it on a mile long stringer, take a picture next to it, and then sell them to market. Yeah, you're weird. That's not what I want. All right, moving on, Um, guy wanted to know, uh, if you had remember we did a thing now long ago. This is the problem. Not long ago, would we had fielded a question that was, if you could be one animal, what would you be? And I picked a flying squirrel because I liked how soft their bellies are, so you would just be like rubbing your belly. I would just lay there and rubb my tummy. The problem is then a question comes in like this, which screws me because I'm stuck in a situation where be tempted to have the same answer for two questions, where he says, if you had to pick one fur to make all of your underwear, what for it would it be. Now I had that question coming first, I would have said flying squirrel. But now it's gonna look like I have a fine squirrel fetish. So so I'm stuck with saying there's a term. It's a fur term, which could be read two ways. I'm i gonna tell you what the I'm not gonna tell you the all the way to read it. There's a fur term called sheered beaver. What this is? What this is? What it is? What it is is? What it is? Is this a beaver? A beaver aquatic mammal, like an aquatic road, the largest road that we enjoy the presence of here in the US. Bills damns, bills, damns. You pluck there's there's there's plucked beaver and sheared beaver. You can pluck the guard hairs, you pluck the guard hairs from the pelt, so like a nice prime pelt, muskrat, whatever. We'll have a lot of them have fine like a like a fine underwool, and they'll have a guard hair which is a glossy and long and nice, and they pluck all those guard hairs off there and then sheer it down and it makes a real I don't have underwear made out of it, but man, you like the feeling that sheered beaver against your skin. I I wanted to what I have threatened at I have threatened at times to get my wife. I wanted to make for ice fishing and stuff. I want to make my wife a like a brawl lined with it, which you can get. And there are people that make it like, I'm not making this up. I'm not throwing this out there, and it's like a thing that can be done. So that's my answer. Yanni. Janni is going with porcupine. No, but I was thinking sheep man, because I mean, how could be up with a pretty much a pair of Marino boxer shorts. Oh no, they don't mean processed. You just gotta be just sheep. Yeah for underwear. Yeah, and then I just trying to run a flap in the front, flap in the back, and really not any underwear anything. I think you gotta go seal or Muskoks go. Yeah. I mean, like if we're gonna talk cold. Let's get cold. You know? Was this only for cold? He didn't say to him, Yeah, we can't get it right. We're aheaded their turkey on. We've been calling it. I was calling it in my head, even though if they kept telling me how it was said. I was like, you people, y'all know, I don't know what you're talking about. It's yano. What I've been told by ten guys that think est would remember yano pretty easy. I'm gonna started calling you yano. Kill any idea. It's a frivolous question. You need to for hot weather? Um Like, I don't like one of those like Marsupio that's that they have down here. Yeah, that's a good idea. Man, the skinny the rat with no hide on, no hair on him, hairless mole rat. Yeah, what's the construction of these underwear? Am I feeling? The fur on? Guy? Honestly have to get back to the guy the same way that uh we were we were accused of this and on Texas, the guy accused of his dissing on on tarps t A rps tarps mhm. I have tremendous love for the tarp. He's fixed to go on on a you know, a bad country hunt and was wondering, like, why is it not okay on them? No that we ignore him. We didn't know there was like a big time tarp advocates out of the tarp tarp sensitive people. I shouldn't say this, but he's like, why do you guys not talk about or address um? I've read everything, listened to everything. I'm going on a hunt. Why can't I just have a tart? You can't. They were great until they were tarps. That's gonna noise at people. Tarts make great tents up until the moment that you need a tent. A lot of times sleeping under a tarp and you're like, man, this is great. You would have been just as good with no tarp. A little drizzle, and then you're like, you think you're you know, little drizzles. Fine, I've stopped under tarps. We pitched them, we string them, sleep under them. But they do have their limits. My last night under a tarp of two thousand eighteen was Thanksgiving Eve in Montana and had a sweet set up. It's on this real steep ridge and there's some dead fall, got my tarp strung out. It was going real light. Actually, I took that tart from you, um, and I got a fire going in the mouth of it, and yeah, I had that. The wind kind of like sucked all the smoke through the top of that tart. Had a real nice heating effect for a good couple of hours. It was great. Woke up and there was a bowl fifty yards away. Just take a book at it. No, I was up there packing out a bowl. Yeah, but there there was a bigger bowl right next to me, which was cool. So he was drawn into the tart. I don't I don't know what pitch did you use, very tar um. It would be like like diamond formation, right, So you take opposite corners one corner down. Yeah, I'm corner up on the tree. Yeah. I like tarp so much. Yeah, I'm into like my tarp craft. Explain, explain the diamond pitch. This is the least interesting corner up on the tree. You stick that out and then you bring the other two corners. Is sort of like this and bat wings. Yeah, like bat wings and stake those in. So you just sort of have one open mouth facing the tree that you've got this and we are camping by yourself like this is a point of pride that you can look around to nobody and be like, yeah, see that. You can picture there being a guy in the audience who took his wife down here, and right now he's kind of like it'll get better. What are they talking about? What I like to do is take um in. My colleagues sometimes tease me about this, but I take bungee cords, homemade bungee cords, and every groment or loop in my tarp. I rig eight inch loop of bungee because then I can speed set it. When it's raining out, I can just grab any bush, any rock that's the noise these bungees made onto stuff and speed pitch my tart. Do you guys, then we got more things to say about this. We like tarps, love tarps. Do you guys get a guy who's warning this is such a strange question. Um, do you guys get pedicures ahead of hunts? I'm not even familiar with what exactly happens during a pedocreer pedicure. I believe that it goes beyond um getting your tone hills clipped. My brother has extraordinarily thick, heavy tone eiles. He was telling me and he thinks it's from eating so much meat has made his tone hills stick. Ben, what's problem that is? I'm just laughing. You've never had a pedicure. I think people are looking at me because I got the hipster thing going like that. That's why I'm laughing, because I feel the whole crowd is like, he's gonna tell us what's up? So go on? Well, yeah, of course. Yeah. When I'm nancing around, you know, like with my history clothes, I don't want my I don't want my feet to be ugly O case I'm wearing my strappy shoes. I mean, I do have a pair of hiking boots and a pair of ski boots that I make sure my toneails are trimmed back before every use to prevent any sort of real painment out there. That's That's what I was gonna point out is if you're like in mountain hiking, I am fastidious about my tone nails because if you're descending hills, and especially in rigid boots, yeah, you get a little slip and there's any there's an imperceptible slip in your foot and if your toe and then you take a thousand steps downhill, your toneails fall out. They turn blue and fall off, which is disconcerting. So if you're rubbing, you know blisters and cuts and you know the shorter toenail going into the toe next to it. I've seen you. I've seen you both. You guys hike around extra tufts like long instances. That doesn't hurt that the tone oil situation. You got to train up for it. Yeah, cow wears extras in the airport and then off to Austin. And let me tell you, this is not the country for extra tough rubber boots. Uh made a very unsightly unpacking of my bag until I got down to my flip flops and then shucked my boots and my socks there in the Austin airport and got into my flops and felt a wave of relief, and everyone else felt another wave. He was getting a little soupy whole another waves that that kind of like half of my O. Go ahead, honest, that reminded me of something I want to talk about. I was just gonna say, I've always wanted one and a pedicure. Oh yeah, when you get him a foot massage while you're getting it, am I right? Whatsage? Yuh, why do they call it a massage? You can probably just go get that too. I mean, there's other things that they do. But we've we've tackled this question before or somehow it's come up where like it's been thought of, like a good idea to prep your feet for a big mountain hunt, being in boots and hike will be a good idea to get a pedicure. So I'm gonna try this. I'm gonna try it next time. If you get it into the details of it, I'll get into the details of it. Not only do I very carefully trim my tone nails, but I have a recurring problem where every two months or so I need to carve out my ingrowns. And I've learned to do with myself after paying some holder to do it. I get a fat back straight razor. Wait wait wait, you paid a hoser to do it, doctor o doctor Okay, So yeah, like six hundred bucks, six hundred dollars to a guy to do what I now can do in seconds. I take a fat back razor, and I get a bunch of rubbing alcohol, and I I sanitized my leather man and I stanitized a pair of needle those players, and I cut them out, and I've done it so much they don't even believe anymore. And I do that a week or two ahead of like a mountain hunting season. I do that a week or two ahead so that it has time to heal. Like, that's a lot of toe care. If if you've added up the mental energy that I've put it, that I put into my toes. I can hardly look down on a guy forgetting a pedicure. And I don't think he's gonna regret it. He's not gonna be like, oh, I would have killed that bowl had I not had a pedicure. Yeah. It takes me like a week though, to break my feet in to like real hiking shape every year. It doesn't matter what I've been doing. But it takes me like the first week of archery season to like get back into boot shape, just get my feet toughen back up. And I would be like, it would be mentally straining on me to think, oh my god, I just got a pedicure and now my feet are all soft. When is this going to come back to haunt me? Yeah? Or that you might smell like the kind of guy that to get a pedicure, probably not running that risk. Bears are like, now that guy him, I can take good damn, ma'am's imagine myself kicked back. Another guy wants to know this. Uh, this is a weird one not terribly weird. One guy had a question. I'm not evenna I'm not evenna honor, I'm not even say it. But this guy's question was this um held his body have an ongoing argument? Did he feels his body feels like you should brush your teeth during hunting season. This guy feels you should not brush your teeth during hunting season the whole season. He feels that he feels that the toothpaste smell is unnatural. Let me come on, I feel like we're getting to like someone living under the bridge situation here, whereas like we got tarps, our feet smell, we don't brush our teeth, we haven't brought like what, we don't need to get into that one. Right, I'm cool, cool, Yeah, Okay, this is a broad question, how do you find hunting spots? But let's not let's not do that, let's do it by let's do it by anecdote. Uh, talk about a great in a way that would be helpful to listeners. You could select hunting spot or two that you got that you feel demonstrates an effective approach, or something that one ought to keep in mind because as the big issue for people. The number one when people cite reasons. I think it's state by state, but generally when people cite reasons that they quit hunting or want to but don't, it's access place to go. I will tell you that I have had seasons where I'm like, here's my a spot, be spot, see spot and hit my spots and had success, and then the very next season I'm like, Okay, I'm only going to spots that I've never been to before, which means I can't repeat either. And I've had the same level of success. Forcing yourself to go explore exactly like I'm getting interrupt Um, you need to go check out some new country. And I think that's what it is, is just you know, being comfortable with the fact that you may not get something, but the reality is, like my best spots, I'm still running that same risk. Yeah, I have a very good chance I'm not getting something. I like the rule to make a rule like this year, I cannot go to the same place it's so much fun, too, so much fun. I have to go somewhere and then you're like, holy ship, there's game everywhere. It's a very Western idea, though, when you live in Texas, you didn't like there's not you can't, well, I'll just pick another spot, Like there's not. There isn't public land to go and pick, unless you got a lot of access here, unless you got a bunch of rancher buddies. Just not in reality to be have a b and C tell your spouse, Um, I made a vow not to hunt the same place. That's why I bought another property, at least the force properties to keep myself on my toes. When a man makes a vow, I briefly the thing that that I did when I lived in Illinois and again before I lived to Texas. I live there, and it's similar. There's no The public land that is there is either overrun or you have to draw a spot, and you can sit in a certain duck pit or a certain blind and it's just not the way that I like to hunt. Well, you're gonna love my story because my story is not a My story is a private land story. Okay, we'll get there. Just give me a preview. UM, I'm just trying to titillate you. Thank you. I've I met a guide. We were I don't know. I was at a trade show or something to met a guy. He's like, oh, I'm up in Pike County, Illinois. I said, I'd love to come up and just check out your operation and learn about how you managed deer and you know, as a writer, maybe read an article. I went up there. We struck up a relationship. We got the drinking beer. He was a big I remember him being a big Shania Twain fan. So I was forced to sit and drink wine with him and listen to Chania Twain. Um, drinking wine. Listen, I know it's playing right into the nerative. And he fed for I'm well, I'm open, I'm wide open. We're in the trust tree, We're in the next. Um. I befretted this feller over Shania Twayne and wine, and I said, hey, man, I'd love to come hunt. He was complaining that all his clients wanted to go and hunt his other properties that weren't around his house, but the best hunting in the Biggest Deer were literally right off his back porch. And the kind of his back forty area. So we struck up a deal where I would help him guide white tails, which is getting up early, driving a dude to a tree stand, making sure he didn't fall out, and then drive him back, and then I would go and hunt his back forty where no one, none of his clients wanted to hunt just for the you know, just for the work of driving dudes back and forth to their tree stands because they needed an extra guy. So I think in this state, in Texas, you definitely have to understand that give and take with a landowner or a god or an outfit or or whoever it is to get that access that you want. It's less of it, you know, you don't there's not so much open ground, so you have to kind of pick and choose. Doug during in his place in Wisconsin, he started a thing where he I don't want to say he formalized it, but he started a thing where people that I don't wanna get Dug in legal troubles. I can't think, Yeah, he's probably be aware of this. Doug. Guys think where people that want to hunt on Dugs place just like an understanding. Did they help him with some stuff and he's trying he's got a ripe parian area. He's trying to replan it, resede it in native vegetation, and it's like folks to hunt the farm happened to like to help me re se native vegetation along the creek, and it's a very rewarding experience for all. He says. I told the story for my favorite permission thing was I had a farm that I very gradually got a like February squirrel hunting permission to do a single squirrel hunt. So it wasn't like come and go as you please. I was like, oh, I suppose this February if you want to come out for a day, you know, I don't know. And we go and get some squirrels, and my body, I think we got a half dozen squirrels on this guy's place. And I started texting him photos of all the stuff we were making with the squirrels. He then comes back with, I don't care what you guys want to hunt. Have had it, dear turkey. Whatever. He just was like a pragmatic man being a guy in egg It's pragmatic man like to see, you know, the fruits of the earth respected saw that and for whatever reason to click with him. Not for whatever reason. It's just like spoke to his sensibilities. Waste not, want not. Oh, and you guys demonstrated that you appreciated, you know, the fruits of the of the land, so to speak. And it was his land right So or he's like, man, these guys are a couple wait jobs starting. I'd like to talk to these guys more. It's just a simple vetting process really on his end. But we've done well agatting permission in Texas. They I don't want to say where, No, we can't do we talk about it. Mike. Now all these thoughts already went through my head. You already thought about not talking about his approach. Well, I don't think his approach matters so much. It's just that, like we had good law of games. I mean, not only did we get hunting permissions, but guys were signing location releases, which means that you know, they're saying that we can film on their property. Like the day we met him, you know, within five minutes and meeting them shaking hands. I feel comfortable saying this. There is a guy we know, not from the state, who goes to a school which is which is regionally popular, and he does work at the school researching an animal that's regionally not popular, and he has great luck establishing his affiliation with the popular school and his animosity towards the not popular animal and enjoys enjoys. I think he puts out about success rate on permissions that is very good. It might not be the same for white tailed deer, you know, but for some birds that eat a lot of grain. But there, but there are different ways of getting around it. Yeah, how anybody here have the lone star tick deer where you become allergic to meet Did you just raise your hand? My uncle just recently that he's got and that's the So your uncle recently found out that he's got the thing one gets where one becomes allergic to meet from eating from getting bit by a tick. This guy, there's a crazy story a guy wrote in UM pretty long when a very interesting story that I'm gonna have to distill down. His mom's a nurse, but he gets bit by a bunch of ticks, eventually gets sick. Um. They're drinking beer, they're eating dear meat, drinking beer, and they think that he has somehow had like a beer and was suffering from alcohol poisoning, like something happened where the beer. That turns out he'd established the meat allergy from the associated with the loan the loan startic right, loan startic virus um not only that cheese, and then he discovers in a way that lands him in the emergency room gummy bears, meat cheese and gummy bears. My kids would be bumed. It's a bad deal. It's called the lone startick because it's not just here in Texas. No, he wasn't in Texas. I didn't tell how he wasn't in Texas. That wanted people here to feel included. Yea, he's in a neighboring state. What would you do? I mean, we've talked about it, but what would you do? Like, how did affect your relationship to honey man hunting deer? It would be hard to continue to do it. It would be hard to continue to do it, it would. I don't know how you would. I don't know how I would. I thought that to be like the biggest nightmare as a hunter. You go out hunting, you get bit by a tick, and then you're allergic to the thing. You were going after. It's almost like the dear scent, the damn tip. Yeah, it would be devastating. I would start fishing. I would find out all the things you could do. Someone once told me that monkey meat, that you can have the lone star tick meat allergy and still eat monkey meat. I don't know if that can't be true. Let's go with no. But that's not gonna that. That wouldn't be the direction I went. I'll tell you I came down the direction you would be gone monkey meat directions that would not I came down hunting with banded last June here in Texas where we're hunting what what part remember Sonora hunting Sonora and uh first tick I had was a lone star tick and then proceeded to have like fifteen more of them throughout the week. Um got home to Idaho at the time, had a couple of weeks later had like bowl's eye tick bite. Yea. I can't tell you how relieved I was to find out I had limes disease. Yeah, as long as it's not the meat thing, it would be so so hard. Like the food aspect is such a driving force behind you know, seasons go on for a long time. It gets like it gets to be a lot. But by the time waterfowl season comes around, I've spent a ton of time in the woods. What gets me out is not the hunting. What gets me out is like, it would be really great to have some big fat mallard breasts in the freezer and for that to be like, well, yeah, but you can't eat them. But because it's only read meat, right, I don't know. I don't know how darc falls into it. Yeah, it's pretty rare, and it sounds like it's a little bit hit and miss. Like this brother here having the cheese and gummy bear thing makes you think it's throwing a bit of a wild card at you. Those ticks. What do you think about the guy that rolled in saying that they had the buddy that was allergic to everything else about a deer, but not the meat, and thus when they went out, he got to pull the trigger, but then he couldn't touch the deer. I believe he couldn't got it, he couldn't skin, he couldn't out. Seriously, you're allergic to hunting, that's what this guy. This guy was saying. My body always said that, and I thought he's a liar, and it turns out he's not lying. To figure it out a little couple of times, it's like from deer first, but you need to meet your fine Why you why are you hunched up so much like that? If you keep doing that, you're gonna sit like me and you get older. Man, sit up where it's too late. I'm gonna sit up right now. I'm just looking at you. Uh yeah, I did take note of that. You're no, I've got these kids. These kids are great kids, um real, they're They're very poised, articulate, bright eyed kids. I like those guys. Um I what were we talking about? Igot the praise and those good A good excuse any work in the world. The guy. Yes, the guy was saying that that like he can hunt, but he can't gut, drag, skin, nothing, and then he eats, which sounds like it sounds like an African safari. It's like he probably developed that allergy shortly after his Safari. Can bring up because it wasn't in your notes really we were talking about, but I kind of bring up that email we just recently got about. You want to violate my notes about fooling people to eat elk mey, oh no, we talked about this though, but not the not the reason not to follow up. Go ahead, I don't I don't know where you're going with this, but I trust you. Well, this guy in there at camp. The rule was when it was an elk camp, when a bull got killed, that you better show up at camp with the heart and the testicles. And that was a dinner. Okay, Well, there's this one guy in camp. It was like not participating in in in the Rocky Mount oyster part of this. You know, everybody else was in camps, like, come on, really, but he wouldn't do it. So I don't know if it was a few days later or maybe another hunt later, but anyways, there's a couple of grouse get shots. They also have some testicles in camp, so they have a big no some bull testicles in camp, so they have a big grouse feed. They also happened to fry up some bowl testicles. Everybody else eats grouse. This guy eats the bull testicles and at the end of the meal he says to his honey companions, we should just quit hunting alcohol together because these ground or where it's at, do you believe that that's true. Yes, you think that a guy. You think that there's a guy who's got the wherewith all in life to wind up in a situation where he's at least out in the woods with other people who would mistake a grouse a chunk of grouse. Made chunk of grouse for chunk of rocky Mountain oyster. True, Rocky, it would be the reverse, You would mistake the oyster for the grouse. Sorry, yeah, yeah, if he had never had grouse made sure good. I like that story. Thanks for sharing, you welcome, But is it okay? I mean that's what in that case? Yeah. I only think this is what we talked about tricking people because I've tricked people and eating things they didn't want to eat. I only think it's not I only think it's okay. It's only justifiable if you're not putting someone in situation where you're tricking them into violating a religious prohibition or you're tricking them into violating like a like an ethics thing, like you never served someone and they'd be like, ha, that's your Remember when your grandma died, you know, like it's like our people grandma, Yeah, so what But and if you're just tricking someone because they're squeamish or being annoying. I think that's totally fine. It would not be fine to trick someone into into like I said of religio, there's a there's a wide difference between an elkantastical and a quail breast. That's what you're telling me, not a breast breast. I'm talking about what we what we discussed before. We discussed before where a guy was saying, I have a roommate that won't eat wild just won't eat wild game. So what we do is we feed the roommate wild game, but just don't tell them what it is because it's annoying, and so we just feed him it and eventually we're gonna be like, you know what, do shut up because you've been eating dear meat every night in your pasta like that, that's all dear meat, So let's not hear about the wild game thing anymore. He was like, is that okay? Or is that bad? And I pointed out at the time that I only think it's bad to trick people if you would be putting them in a situation where you're putting them in a thing where they're where you're violating, but you're tricking them into violating some kind of sacrament. Or it'd be like you have a person that's that they're they're committed, and they're they're gonna committed vegan, and they decided they don't want to contribute anyway to animal suffering, and then you give them a thing and you're like, Hai, tricked you, right. I don't think that's cool. I don't think it's cool. But if someone's just annoying, like they're just annoying and dumb or whatever, I think it's okay to trick them. If they're just being squeamish. You find what I'm saying nance that's anti bush. I prefer the hard way. My preference is the hard way at be like, Stephen, this is the meat. I know you think you do not like it, but this is what the story is. Is what I've done to it. Please try a bite. And I like I like that approach because I want people like face it head on and then there's no like second guessing. Just turn the lights down, little plains access boys. Yeah good, but I do yeah that there is a path of least resistance that can lead to a good result. As well, yeah, I've done some trickery. Yeah, we're convinced that someone during the what do you what do you give me? The labby and smirk for I'm just loving you. During the pre show reception, we talked someone to get we talked. We tried to talk someone in to getting excited about squirrel meat. We also had a guy I say, uh, he says, I grew up so far out in the country we had to drive towards town to go hunting. You know what, when we're talking about the lone star tick and and all these other things there, you know, diseases and whatnot you can get. It's got a lot for me. Having kids, I become like, I can see how some parents have kids and get weird about the risks because things that I never ever thought of I now think of with kids around. It's partly because I'm concerned for them, and it's partly I'm concerned for me should something happen to them, how it would be received by my wife. So we're to squirrel hunting last weekend, and we got a squirrel that had it had lost a lot of its hair down its sides. It was obviously rubbing because it was symmetrical and you can see but your mind like nob I wouldn't pay attention to it. And my kids they run around and find like hulking, you know what I mean. They run over and it's just like the squirrels everywhere, and it's around their neck. It's like half in their shirt. There's really get into and um, and I become you know, they get that psycho somatic where I'm itching and I'm studying where I'm itching and there's nothing there, and I'm realizing that I'm having like the things that you just are so worried about someone else getting something that it happens to you, and it's it's not welcome to me. Like I've looked at the world as being slightly more hazardous now that I have kids, and when I don't, I never thought about getting the plague hunting squirrels. So this wasn't a flying squirrel then, because you'd have been. But now I like walk around like hyper aware of all these things ticks. My quick side note. I missed that hunt, um, which I always go on. I'm real bombed. I miss it good reason, that batter reason. But I had to miss it some family obligations. But Yeah, Yanni had his grandfather passed away. But with allost squirrel it's just fat. This could be it's like like eyst shot. I thought we killed a house cat. Yeah, like when you skin them like far and messed up shot of house cat. It almost looks like large on their haunches when you skin them greasy and you know when those house cats start to rub a little bit of hair, you know what. The coolest squirrel hunting thing that ever happened to me happened perhaps too too interesting squirrell things happened to me. This abrahunt is conwoods and there's an invasive plant called a Russian olive. And I think that the Russian olive, the invasive Russian olive, I believe makes areas habitable for squirrels that previously weren't habitable. I think that if you looked, if you mapped the westward expansion of fox squirrels in large Riparian areas, it would it would mirror. This is just a guess, it would mirror Russian olive invasion. Like the alves. I'm crawling through a bunch of Russian alf I hadn't see anything a little bit, and we see one way off, way the hell off from the tree. And my kid, my eight year old, is very I don't mean to toot my own horn here a little bit, but he's a very good squirrel spotter. He's possible way off. And we're crawling through a bunch of thick Russian oli, just just getting ready to head over to the area with Brody, and I see it almost I thought I was hallucinating, because I see there's like the sun's real bright kind of breaking through, and I see the perfect shadow of a squirrel, a shadow, like a perfect shadow of a squirrel across in front of me, and I think I'm hallucinating and dying or something, you know, like I've I've entered the afterlife. And I looked and he's just right here, going over, and it cast his shadow to look like he was crossing the ground in front. The other very interesting thing I saw we had to working up in a tree and one goes into a hole, turns around and comes out to defend his whole to not let his buddy in, which leaves his buddy in a situation of being stuck in the tippy top of a cotton wood and torn between the vulnerability he's feeling with us lining up on him and fighting it out with the dude in the whole. Like, if I was a better man, I would tell you that we didn't get that squirrel, but we got him. And it's still I still have a heavy heart. I have a heavy heart about what those two went up went through up in that tree. But it really shows you where a squirrels allegiance is. He's like that squirrel is the dude who's fishing and he's doing good and says he's not squirrels Like he's like, bro, I got a good Why would I care how you have it? It's a nice hole. It was a weird deal and um, we're just talking to Uh, I can't who we're talking to. Marrow's comment your kids, it was you was saying that you were hung with your kids and they saw a squirrel poking out of a hole and then learning to like having the very uh important realization is that there he is and you could get him, but you can't get him because if you get him, he's gonna fall back into the hole. And we had that problem with this one of trying to convince my eight year old who he's got, like a Kevin Murphy esque uh desire to not let any squirrels get away, and to to to convince him of the idea that we would leave that squirrel for fear of not retrieving it was tough. It was tough. He was ready to we would get a chainsaw. There's some there's like it's you know, we have three grown adults here. There's certainly there's a way to get that tree. Talking about ladders, like we got ladders now, yeah, we learned. Yeah, maybe like, uh, what's the whole system when you were climbing trees um as an arborist, right, you throw the sandbag over and then you run the rope. We didn't we Yeah, I know what you're talking about. We didn't do that. You can use you can use archery, bow fishing arrows. Oh yeah, you set a line with the bow fishing arrow. That's good idea. You shoot the bull fishing line all over, then pull smaller like para cord over that, then use that the hoys stuff and then you just needed is a jumar device. Right, you climb with senders. We never used the senders. We use a suicide not um. Same thing though, right where we were with the tarps. Sorry, the conversationally two people and I don't remember real serious because I'm with Jimmy. I don't want to let all these squirrels go and they get in the hole. Right, A ladder seems a little cumber something. But if we were just packing like a harness in one length of rope, Yeah, but then you have to do the equation of like how much squirrel meat are you gonna get for how much time on one tree? Whereas you leave that tree, that's when you've you've you've crossed some line where the amount of squirrel meat is not as important as how many squirrel America. This is Texas, we get the squirrel. Okay, Texas to leave some squirrel on the tree. America. Uh yeah, I I I struggle over because I know that even some of the tricks that that Kevin Murphy talks about, for for rustling the squirrel out of a hole in a tree, would be completely unacceptable for deer. If you met a guy and he's like, well we're having a hard time finding deer, so we burned them out, it's like it doesn't go over well. Yeah, people can right in to say it to us. Hey, you know what you do is you go to Mad Dave's Fireworks and get a bunch of smoke bombs, and then you don't have any problem with squirrels and trees anymore if you smoke them out. So you do, you just wind up with like a thing um in muskrat trapp When I was a muskrat trapper, uh, you know, you read muskrat articles, and most muskrat trapping articles would include the need to leave behind some seed right like the first pole, Like you make you set up water body the first pole. You know, you get sixty seventy of your traps, you're gonna have a muskrat next day it's forty. And then instead of like sticking around for the ten you just get out and leave some there and then you come back next year and everything's great. So that's like a way to think about the ones that get in the holes is like you know, when you dig a home, put a seed in it that nature made that hole in its seed is in the hole, and then yet leave it in there. I haven't tried to sign my boy yep, but I'm gonna try it on him. Hey is the guy named less Mayo here? No, he had he had an interesting story that sounds like a fake namewich. I wouldn't think so, but the level of detail less Mayo extra Mustard also wrote, Here's why I don't think it's a fake name. Here's why I don't think it's a fake name. The level of detail he gets into about his situation in life and whatnot led me to believe it's l E. S. Mayo. Like Mayo clinic leads me to believe that it's that uh did it's a person because it would have been a laborate, no possible gain scenario to write in under it. He wasn't like, um, by the way, send me a thousand dollars, I'm a crown, I'm the crown prince of right. He just guys throwing out an interesting thing on the subject dip. He used to hang out with a ex convict, and he was saying, the convicts like, if you got dip, they're concerned about sanitation. So this guy would carry plastic spoons in his pocket, and whenever he took a dip, he would take a spoon out, his clean spoon out and spoon out a dip to put in his mouth. And he was always curious about this, But if someone else asked him for a dip, he gets another clean spoon out and you spoon out a dip and put it in, and that way there's no cross contamination. And in jail you can sell dips to people without having people worry about where your hands have been, Like you're selling single dip, single dip, you're selling spoonfuls of dip to people. Also on the subject to dip, Ben Bailey writes us in a Lot, a friend of ours writes in a Lot about the comments. He was reading a book Distant Summers, which is there's there's this explorer p J. Down PG Downs, and he has a travelog about being in northern Canada in the nineteen thirties doing river trips, and he talks about the Chippewan. Indians would make up names for white people based on visual attributes. So they like throw a nickname like Lavin eagle whatever, right, they throw a nickname at people based on things. So there was Ta Tootna, which was this guy, the little fellow. There was one guy he hung out with that you tobacco. He's a dipper, and the Indians called him the man with two assholes, which I like tremendously on the subject of on the subject Remember talking about someone in Texas that was an overlyne I just didn't get it. Can you explain it? You see now? Yeah? No, Um, that was that was a special one for just the people to get it. Remember talking about that. That's that we're talking about a guy in Texas who had vowed to and he was someone who was influential in popularizing food plots just bringing a bell. I can't remember his name. There's a gentleman who was very influential and the and conceiving of and popularizing and fine tuning food plots. Uh. And his his latest thing is he's getting into he's trying to grow Um, he's trying to grow a new world record bass. But it's like if you're familiar in for farm mank, like you can't farm, maybe they can't. Now. When I was more familiar with the firm market, UM, it was just a known thing that you could not in domestication capture the quality with domestic mank farm raised mank. You couldn't capture the quality of a wild mink. There's something about his lifestyle and diet and vigor. They would produced a are more luxurious pelt. And no matter what you did to make the conditions right with ranch mink, you couldn't make a ranch mink. A ranch mink was like as good as a muskrat could never arranchment couldn't aspire to a mink. And this thing with raising bass as someone saying there's just something about large scale bodies of water that provides so many things that a bass needs throughout the year. And he's got like the Shmorges board in different places to go and ways to find the right temperature and optimize the situation. That it's actually because I was like bemoaning the state of the world that some guy would now produce a large mouth bass and like a cement, you know, swimming pool or something in some ichthyologists or pointing out that it's actually a very difficult thing to do. It's like it's hard to beat mother nature. Uh, it's not with bucks, but in fish, it's hard to beat mother nature. But this guy, uh, one of my buddies who's a big waterfowl hunter. He he was writing in about this reservoir and atch one this is kind of screwed up lake. You might have heard of this Count Diefenbaker. Yeah, you notice, like I got offered a bartending job up there one time. Oddly enough, I had no idea you're gonna bring that can after I talk about this can you remember talk about your fishing trip. So he's at Lake Diifenbocher and he's not at it. But what happened is, I believe it's differ. Some group of folks has a genetically engineered trip Lloyd rainbow trout that they're commercially raising. Okay, they're sterile and they have them been growing pens somehow or another. In a flooding event, five hundred thousand sterile genetically modified organism rainbows get into the lake. They have three sets of chromosomes instead of to. Their growth rate is much higher than a nonaltered wild rainbow um since they never breathe, they just focus in size. So this happens. Then a guy shatters the world record in two thousand seven. In two thousand nine, his twin brother crushes his world record by five pounds. So now the new world record forty eight pounds is a GMO sterile farm pond escaped rainbow. Come on, Well, it's so weird because on the BC side, the old triploid rainbow thing is huge. Like those fish are in a bunch of different bodies of water, and so I guess the difference here is like these were reard specifically just to eat out of you know, farmed a farm facility runs the cement run situation. But then they got into the big lake. I've seen the page didn't fact check him on. This's not gonna wring his neck if it's not accurate. No, Well, I can all I can say with out looking at the internet right now is when I was up there, world record rainbow had come out of the lake and it's like the most slawbish, disgusting looking trout you've ever seen. But people are super fired up on it and it's a cool. But but at what point is it not a fish? He calls it a frank and fish. Yeah, what's a huge lake, you know, So I think, like the hunting of that fish in that lake, it's still gonna take you some time to find find those fish, but you agree that there's a point at which it ceases to be a fish. If I made a robot, it looked like a giant rainbow and it was fifty pounds. Would you allow me in the world record. I mean, you're not even comparing apples to oranges here that it's it's like pomegranate and apples oranges. But you know what I'm saying, there's a there's a point at which yes I do, and you don't think that he's founded. Man, I are like the most record books. Hunting has prevented the record books from being infiltrated by imposters. Yeah yeah, although they still try. Um boy, I don't. I don't recall anybody ever actually actually caring about this. Um let me. So you're saying the state of their stocksis fish too, I'm not. This is Saskatchewan in BC. Those triploid rainbows are all over the place as just stockers, yep, as just like a sport fishing opportunity because they're i mean they're huge, and um they're pretty selective. You know, they're after like all the micey shrimps. So people use really a Abrian bomber set ups for him. But this is a big body of water and it's an incredible waterfowl area. When I had dogs, that's where it would go up and and hunt them for quite a while. Every year and if a farmer's duck got away. Um man, Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know the answer, but I feel like it needs to be poked and prod of that and thought about, yes, there should be an asterisk next to the world record. Yeah, they just says, hey, this is she'd be like, hey, you know, heads up before one get too excited. Well like in New Zealand, you know and the oh you know that there is in Indiana that kid killed the escaping farm deer like somebody had a high offence operation as they do that some deer got out kids sitting tree stamp on his Indiana farm and shoots this like two some inch monster buck that was quite with an ear tag in it. I think they didn't call that a state record. If if because it's a kid, I'd let him have the state record. That's a cool kid. I went want to ruin it for him. He'd be the new state record holder. Yeah, but okay, that's completely hypocritical because you you have this thing and everybody here will see this firsthand. Where Steve believes that, uh, you know, our youth have an entire life in which they can aspire to anything they want, but are older folks in the room. You're gonna die, so he may as well help you out while we can. Yeah, help you enjoy it while we can, and then the younger folks will figure it out and they have time to have someone in this late niff thing. These are just like good old boys Saskatchewan farmers that are out hunting these giant slabbish rainbows. So why give him the world records? Did I have a birthday to night? You do? Anybody got birthday tomorrow the next day? We need four people who have birthdays and cons in order, Uh, we'll get to that. You're fishing trip, you did like a quick, a little little you did a little text, Yeah, real quick zip down to rock Port incredibly awesome. I had a fantastic time. Uh zipped out and fished out of a state park. They're uh Goose Island yea, And uh didn't catch anything? No we oh yeah, yeah, nothing to see. Uh, but I had a I mean, just had a great, great time. Did some polling around. You guys have hard bottom uh fishing out here, so you can get out and wade. It's not like Louisiana, where if you tried to wade sink up to your chim'd never see you again. Yeah, um, and uh yeah, I had a great time chasing redfish and uh got some pitched at some black drum and uh have to get shots at Jack's at well trying to Like conditions weren't perfect for that, too choppy or too muddy. H just real intermittent son and and some wind dich there too, so it was hard spotting fish. So you're hoping for like clear signed of make shadows on the bottom and whatnot. Yeah, I just yeah, but you're fantastic time and in really cool area. And got to hang out with some local boys down there, and one of which this dude Bobby, who's eight seven and drives like seventy wherever he goes. And uh he found out that Ryan Thompson and I had nothing to do on Sunday. He's like, WHOA, sure you don't have anything to do. It's like, I'll come by, just drive you around, show you some stuff. And so I swung in, picked us up, drove us all over for a couple of hours, pointing out all sorts of local tidbits and facts and breaking the speed limit everywhere we went. Um, did amazingly well for eight seven. It was a great time. It's really weird you tell that story because it reminds me of thing to happen where in Miles City, Montana. We used to live next to a guy named West Monsel and he was eighty seven. And one day my brother had a goal somewhere and he was telling us about a bunch of horse mushrooms he saw in the field and he just knew it somewhere between Miles City and Baker, which is a good stretch in West like this kind of mushroom. So we drove and someone must pick someone else wants to saw him and picked him because we eventually make it all the way to Baker. On the way home, and this is not a big road. On the way home, West is driving ninety five. The car is floating over the hills, and I'm thinking about how old he is and how people at a certain point could just pass away at any moment. And he gets to telling me the reason we're driving so fast is he's late. I'm gonna bring this thing full circle. This is a true story. He's late for a doctor's appointment. And then my mind's really wandering because I'm like, well, what sort of health issue is West happened? It's so important. He gets home in such a high rate of speed and we're running late, and we go and he's like, I'm not he can't even drop me off. He's like, I'm gonna pull end up the doctor and then you can just take my car back to your house and come pick me up at the end and a half hour or whatever. So I come back and pick him out. In this point, I'm real curious and I'm like all concerned for West's health and I'm like, so, West, what's going on? And he explains that since he his wife passed away, he realized that he's too old to lean over and clipped his own tone nails and had a doctor's appointment to get his tonnails caught. And that is why me and West were driving down a curvy road looking for mushrooms. Um, what was I getting at? Where I was talking about the guy that wasn't here? Oh yeah, we handled this thing. Here's another one we talked about. Fair bit. I don't think people in Texas run flat brim hats. I even noticed that, No, there's some flat brimmers around to get flat flat brimmers in Texas. One guy was saying that they were having the flat brim, curve brim baseball hat debate just on Merits, where one guy was saying he runs a flat brim and he feels it is better because you have more room for your binoculars under there, which has always been my point my sunglasses. That's why you go slightly flat to fit your binos. But the other guy pointed out during a debate, and they rode in about it. The other guy pointed out, there with a curve brim, you can pull a Remmy Warren where you conform your brim. This sounds complicated, but it's not. You make your the curl of your hat brim kind of conformed to the curve of your binos, and then you put your hat on and make sure it's on tight. And then when you hold your binos, you also hold your hat brim and it's a stabilizer. And he can't imagine that anyone would ever look through binoculars without having his hands gripping his hat brim. Yes, think about that. I like I used to think called the triboten. Yeah, I like the flat brim when I'm fishing because I have, you know, full coverage sunglasses and then flat brand I feel like gives me more coverage, Like it's more surface area, casting a bigger shadow on your face. Yeah, and then you know, I just pitched that thing on the dash and grab my regular role kicking around hat. Cown hat. You took your ears up in it. No sticker on the on the brim there. I have a tiny, tiny head. So if I get a hold of a hat after like, I'm kind of stuck with that because apparently there's a great shortage of p head sized hats out there. I'm usually wearing some kind of Fedora or something ornate hat, you know, So I say, it's a moving point to me. You kind of open up up on all these things. Why do some people put their ears inside the hat? Why am I up on this? Does it function? Is there a function? They got big ears? No, No, there's a functional reason. It's not like you're spending skin cancer on the tops of your ears. That would be a good point, though, Yeah, I got no answer for that. Big ears annoying. When the wind flaps him around, you gotta tuck them in there. That would be logical. Actually thought that that might be what it is you talk your ear and there and you don't have to lose the top of your ear to skin cancer. Guy rode in from St. Louis looking for advice, ethical advice. Um. He lives out in the country and he just moved to a new neighborhood and it's there's neighborhood pond. And the way it works is each person along the pond has one and a half acres joining up right, you can picture on top about joining up to the pond. The pond is seven acres. He he has a homeowners association. There's nothing in the h o A about firearms or hunting or nothing. You see where this is going. Oh yeah, they've they've got geese and mallard using the lake legally. He realizes that here doing his homework legally and whatever you call h o A law. He feels as though he's a okay in the clear to go out and hunt. And he's wondering. He says, I feel it is better to ask for forgiveness rather than rather than permission. But quote wanted your guys opinion. I was first as he lived in Texas. He's cutting that ship out of him every day. Man more I think about it that I was thinking there's other ways about it. My initial thought was there's only one way that he's gonna get one good hunt, and that's by just going for it first um and getting after him. Because then at the next h o A meeting, there's gonna be some covenants hunting in that pond. Right, So at least that way you get one good hunting. Because if you go ask around, it depends on who your neighbors are a board. Maybe if you went how many people are there, how many how many different half watchers club? I bet someone who's really good at math could figure out how many neighbors there are if each neighbor owns one and a half acres and it's a seven acre pond. But you get into a lot of questions about the shape of these but I doubt the properties are pie shaped. Well, you might start off I just going to all your neighbors and hand them each a nice goose pstromy breast all done up came from, Yeah, yeah, and that that's kind of the direction I was leaning, like, you better get your game, get your house in order, right. So, No, when your next homeowners association meeting is at which point, these rules are definitely gonna change. And you give yourself enough time to like cure up smoke cone fee and you know, get a good spread laid out for the meeting everybody I brought and say it do go on and they eat it. You're like, guess what that was my advice? There's like I could do the like long a long version of advice and my beby he could start talking about he could spread pamphlets out they are like the enormous health risks associated with with with goose droppings. But propaganda, get get ahold of whoever like generates fake news articles and having right things like the number one killer of American children is It would be so easy to target because because every h o A now has like their own Facebook group, so it'd be very easy to target the right people. But you could, you could do that. But but my like, just to answer what he's asking, and I'm not just saying I'm saying this as a homeowner, I'm saying this as a person who cares about um the hunters and hunters rights and our ongoing ability to to have the lifestyle that we so much enjoy, I would say that I feel that he should um, he should do a little tour, he should do a little tour around the lake doing for the kids, and and kind of layout what is planning, how he's sort of thinking this is gonna go down, and what his plan is, and do the do the permission rather than forgiveness approach, Like about five thirty, I'm gonna slip out there and set a bunch of decoys about six fift you're gonna hear you don't know it's me. I won't bore you with what happens after that, but but you know, you get the gist, uh final thing quickly and talking about oh gotta yeah, I gotta do our birthdays most of you gotta do quickly and talk about though first is um Cows just pointing out to me that on the same newsday down here in Dallas, there was a story not down here in Dallas, but down here in Texas, the story of of also the Wallaby just happens be walking down the road in Dallas on a company just by itself, an un a company Wallaby. The owner gets in no no trouble. Another guy in Dallas turns up with a little collection of Asian swamp fields. Charges are pending. When I read this just to return while I was talking about the top of the episode. When I read this, I realized, like a thing I like about Texas and Texans is that you know the the E. O. Wilson term um by ophelia, the term you popularized, which is this innate human desire two experience and be around other forms of life. And I feel for all the dog and on Texas that we were doing earlier, a thing I appreciate, whether it's tigers, wiladbies, dear Turkey's quail, but I feel that like there's some beautiful thing about the Texas mindset that just loves and it's gonna run good and bad. They love animals. They like to be around wildlife and enjoy it and marvel at it and just experience it. And I uh and for that, I do want and all, honestly to congratulate and thank everyone here for so many kind letters that we get from taxes of people trying to understand this crazy thing, this crazy experiment that we have of wildlife in America. So thank you guys all for that, yeah very much. And with that, I want to say what all analysis we got? Big good night and thank you. We got our steam Breathing Power Gobbler Live to our only T shirts. You'll never see a guy anybody you see wearing them? Is that the Live Show? What other kind of stuff? Pro nuance, th HC THC shirts shirts. We got cookbooks, meteor fishing game cookbooks, billabole, anywhere bouts you sold, including out Front Bandana, band Yanni's special how to Go to Dear Bandana, A couple of mugs, all of that, check out, Stars and Sky. Thank you very much. We need the birthday people. Who who's got a birthday to night? Okay? Come up this one birthday to night? One guy? Is that burthday tonight? Tonight? I'm asking tonight, tonight, tonight. If it's tonight, come on down, is it tonight? Who's got a birthday tomorrow? Any birthdays tomorrow? The next day, the next day? That can't be right. Who's got yesterday? You got yesterday? Okay, come on, that's good. Who else got yesterday? No? No way? Who else got yesterday? How may we got that one? We got three day before yesterday? Oh? We usually get to take care of him one day April. What yeah, six of work? That'll work. Come on, right now, all right, guys, thank you very much, very much,

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