00:00:00 Speaker 1: I'm Casey and you're listening to the Elephant podcast. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: What is happening? All you wits people? 00:00:19 Speaker 1: Guess what what? 00:00:21 Speaker 2: Tyler's here but. 00:00:24 Speaker 3: The mountain in themselves. Michael and Greg have decided to join up. 00:00:31 Speaker 2: What's on the only podcast today. 00:00:33 Speaker 3: These boys have been scaling the hots, living in the valleys, the highs and lows. 00:00:38 Speaker 2: As they say, you've seen it all, seen it all. 00:00:41 Speaker 4: There was definitely some highs and lows or are they for sure? 00:00:44 Speaker 5: Mostly low's but mostly. 00:00:46 Speaker 1: Lows Mountain Mike and Gully gregg Man legal in New Mexico, right, Yes, yeah, they've been. They've been through the highs and lows Man, the mountains and in the gullies. 00:00:55 Speaker 3: Speaking of they just made guns illegal in New Mexico, so watch out for that, but the whole state eight. 00:01:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really well. We hunt with bos's, right with hunters, Yeah, yep, yeap. When you got amendment that protects bo's, I think come after those and. 00:01:08 Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna Let go to cross bos first. 00:01:12 Speaker 1: Then we'll be good. Then we can start fighting. 00:01:15 Speaker 2: Oh man, So these guys have. 00:01:16 Speaker 3: Been out deer hunting in New Mexico. We're gonna get the full scoop on that. You can look forward to a video featuring who's the hunter on this trip? 00:01:25 Speaker 2: Guys, it would be me, Greg rig I don't know. 00:01:28 Speaker 3: I think that, uh, we have nicknames for you, but then I think the general element audience calls you old Greg. 00:01:34 Speaker 5: I mean it's been that way since that video. 00:01:36 Speaker 2: Imagine two thousand and six or something something like that. 00:01:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, you brought fair freshman in high school somewhere around there, somewhere around that. 00:01:45 Speaker 6: Yep, I don't even know what you're talking about. 00:01:48 Speaker 5: Dude. 00:01:48 Speaker 2: Well you two thousand and six. 00:01:50 Speaker 4: Barely you're born in two thousand, two thousand, that's right, Okay, almost made it to the nineteen hundreds. 00:01:56 Speaker 6: Young legs. Not quite almost almost made it to it. 00:01:59 Speaker 2: Hey, bro, can't even remember the twentieth century. 00:02:03 Speaker 1: Yeah I can't. I can't either. 00:02:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough sometimes remember back in the good old times. 00:02:12 Speaker 1: You know, I can barely remember my element. Remember this is my element. 00:02:19 Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, this is only podcast brought to you by First Like you're, Greg has on the trace pant right now. 00:02:25 Speaker 2: He doesn't have his zips open, which means we are experiencing a cool front around here, which you gotta watch Greg. 00:02:35 Speaker 1: I gotta tell the stories Greg. Greg shot of Access Deer on our on our channel with his with his zipp or down and I don't mean the traces it. 00:02:45 Speaker 5: It was hot. 00:02:49 Speaker 2: That was because we didn't really fit. There is the go pro angle. 00:02:52 Speaker 1: The go pro angle is legit just crotch. 00:02:55 Speaker 3: Well, that go pro angle does make the video, but just not once he stands up. 00:03:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can imagine Greg standing up directly. 00:03:06 Speaker 1: Facing the goro is facing it's head high when he's sitting down. So he goes to shoot and stands up and apparently he had pete and forgot to close the door. 00:03:16 Speaker 2: Greg is just too bashful. 00:03:18 Speaker 1: He can handle it. 00:03:19 Speaker 4: Greg doesn't say much, but he said something about that multiple times that one. 00:03:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg's the only person has been embarrassed on the Element YouTube channel yet. 00:03:30 Speaker 3: What what other interesting things did you catch Greg doing while video. 00:03:35 Speaker 2: In him this week? Well? 00:03:37 Speaker 4: Drinking twenty four black rifles and probably ten duncans. 00:03:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like a low number to me. It's the number exactly, is it? 00:03:46 Speaker 5: Two twelve facts of black rifles? 00:03:49 Speaker 2: Did y'all stack them up? They may him peer me. 00:03:52 Speaker 5: We ran on the room. 00:03:55 Speaker 4: We had so much trash in the truck at one point where it was like me and Greg, which is crazy to say, We're like, this is too much, Like we have got to find a trash can right now. I would never say that that's what happened. 00:04:08 Speaker 1: They were making Mike's Peak. 00:04:10 Speaker 2: Here's a problem. 00:04:12 Speaker 3: When Mike's peaking Gregg's Gully gets together, there's no middle ground. 00:04:17 Speaker 2: This that's it. We're getting too loud for Eric. You can't even edit with us. 00:04:25 Speaker 3: Eric Saitting editing the most recent episode of reugh Fresh Radio. If y'all didn't know we were doing ret Fresh again this year on the Wired to Hunt feed from our. 00:04:32 Speaker 1: In fact, they're just pinning over Medior company to us. That's right, we're gonna have the whole. 00:04:38 Speaker 2: Company responsibility income. 00:04:40 Speaker 1: Okay, I thought we were making some money from that thing. 00:04:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark was too busy, so we had to do it for him this year. I don't know. I don't ask. This is how. This is how I try to make my marriage work. And it doesn't work very often, but. 00:04:58 Speaker 5: I just try to. 00:05:00 Speaker 3: I try to have this thing where you just assume the other person is doing their absolute best, and that's the best way to be happy. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: Right, it's the best way to to to uh navigate that. Yeah, I'm assuming that is the case. If y'all want to. 00:05:18 Speaker 3: There is a filter down in the description here you can click that will filter out all the laughs and just give you the core details of this podcast. So if you scroll down and uh click on it's probably called like the Element's Biggest buck Ever or something like that on that and it actually won't create it that at all, But you can go watch that in the in the description. 00:05:41 Speaker 2: That's a good plug. Man, thanks man, appreciate that. 00:05:44 Speaker 1: So look weird that whales get barnacles on them? Dude, Yeah, I know, dude, it's kind of hurt creeps me out. 00:05:49 Speaker 2: It's just Uh, I had scabies in college. 00:05:53 Speaker 6: No, I thought sheep got that. 00:05:55 Speaker 3: No, that's that's scraamy. Scabies is skin mice and it is I it is no fun Like I got it from either the movie theater. 00:06:11 Speaker 2: Or the gym. Sure it wasn't a pen squirrel, No, that didn't overlap. 00:06:16 Speaker 3: And then I gave it to my then girlfriend, and then gave it to one of my roommates his girlfriend, and we were we all just had scabies. So what it looks like on like a finer detail is there'll be little pinholes in your skin that you can see that are probab you know, probably like a thirty second of an inch apart, and they will infest your skin. And what it's going on is there's a tiny little mite just drilling into you and you'll have hundreds of them in your body and it's too much. 00:06:52 Speaker 2: No, that's actually the thing is that you use. 00:06:56 Speaker 3: Lye hair shampoo and you just take a big old bathroom the last shampoo. Even after four or five days, you can kill it. But like this was like emerging Internet era, right, Like Michael wasn't even around for like what to do here, So it wasn't like a, hey, why is my skin itching on the internet? You know, like this wasn't how that happened. So like for four or five days, I was like, what in the world's wrong? I thought I had a yeast infection? Or I was like asking people like, hey, why am I itching so bad? Like I can't even work because I mentioned so bad and ends up. I went to the doctor finally and they were like. 00:07:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, eskape East was like what is that? You know? So how did I get on that? 00:07:35 Speaker 1: I don't I have no idea the barnacles or the barnacles. 00:07:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine that's what it feels like for the whales. It's a little thing drilling into them. 00:07:42 Speaker 6: You think you think they drilling. 00:07:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why those whales breach is they're trying to knock those barnacles off. 00:07:48 Speaker 1: That's why m hm, oh my goodness. 00:07:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:07:51 Speaker 1: So did they just fall asleep and end up on the bottom and a barnacle crawls on them. 00:07:55 Speaker 3: Now, barnacles are planked and essentially in the way that they reproduce use and they float around until they find something to attach to. That's why they're on turtle shells and uh, whales and stuff things that are along lived. 00:08:08 Speaker 2: You don't see him on. 00:08:09 Speaker 3: Fish because fish, you know, I don't know about every fish, but like a mahi, a three year old mahi is. 00:08:14 Speaker 2: A big one old kind of like a turkey. 00:08:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, let's not talk about that. 00:08:20 Speaker 3: You don't want to talk about turkeys getting martles, just turkeys. Let's talk about deer, do it. So, y'all just went on a deer hunt. Well, did you call this a trophy hunt or an aspirational hunt? 00:08:35 Speaker 5: Not a trophy hunt. 00:08:35 Speaker 2: Not a trophy hunt, okay, but we thought out of the bag. 00:08:38 Speaker 5: We thought it. We thought it might. 00:08:40 Speaker 2: Be there's some rumors of large deer. 00:08:42 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:08:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. So is New Mexico a state that you think of when you say I want to go deer hunt there? Not really not really. 00:08:50 Speaker 4: Definitely not not now. Well it is now, But before I would have not been like, I want to go to New. 00:08:58 Speaker 1: Mexico and hunt deer. 00:08:59 Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you want to do in New Mexico before this? Un elk oh, yeah. 00:09:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's about nothing I don't want to do anymore. 00:09:09 Speaker 2: You don't want to go eat green chilies in New Mexican? 00:09:13 Speaker 1: Kill me go to Applebee's and get a green chili. 00:09:15 Speaker 3: Berger got a medium green chili one time from this really nice and he couldn't say no, but he absolutely got burned down And it was so funny. 00:09:25 Speaker 1: Lad, I thought I was going to be just dead on the side of that road. 00:09:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. Did y'all get a green chili burger? 00:09:31 Speaker 5: No? 00:09:31 Speaker 2: No, never did? Huh turkey sandwiches. 00:09:34 Speaker 1: I got one in Colorado when I came out after shooting that buck right there. 00:09:37 Speaker 2: Pretty good. 00:09:38 Speaker 1: Oh, dude, give me the greasiest whenever I get out. 00:09:43 Speaker 2: Feel rott. 00:09:44 Speaker 3: So you boys sat out on a trick, tell us just just take off, tell us what was going on? 00:09:50 Speaker 2: What was going through your head? Greg? In fact, you went out and scouted a little. 00:09:54 Speaker 5: Bit, went out, scattered a little bit in the summer, and I mean I found I found deer, but I found one buck. And I was a little worried about where I went that it wasn't going to be the spot when I went there. But we uh made the truck out there, and uh as we're as we're headed up there, I mean we're we're traveling an old truck. This is old blue How old is it? It's two thousand and two, four f one fifty. 00:10:24 Speaker 4: That thing is two years old, younger than me. 00:10:29 Speaker 5: Tried in V eight. And we're we just loaded up, got supplies. 00:10:35 Speaker 2: Are eight or all eight cylinders hitting? 00:10:37 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's it's it's firing, old boot. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: I heard it this morning. 00:10:45 Speaker 5: All right, So we loaded up, we got supplies. We're headed out. I mean, we're we're twenty miles back, like into some remote stuff, twenty miles and all of a sudden, I hear something just snap and break from the back of the truck. 00:11:02 Speaker 4: We hit this tiny little bump and it is just like and it's like, oh, we're screwed. 00:11:09 Speaker 1: Come Mat, I need this year. 00:11:14 Speaker 2: So adversity truck. I don't know anything about. 00:11:17 Speaker 6: This right off the adversity truck. 00:11:19 Speaker 1: Oh, get out of here. That's bad. 00:11:25 Speaker 5: We're like twenty miles back and uh just hear an explosion from the back, just stuff breaking. And I look at Michael and what was that? 00:11:34 Speaker 2: I bet Michaels, Yeah for. 00:11:39 Speaker 1: Sure what it was. It was a load of black riffle coffee. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: Too much Eleva, Yeah, they just blow up. 00:11:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, but uh well, get out of the truck and start listening and there's a bunch of noise coming from the back right wheel and we're like what is going on? All I can think is like the break caliper like melted broke, or the wheel bearing went out. And so I get Michael on the truck. He drives a little bit. I'm listening and I'm like, it's got to be the wheel bearing. And so we decide to limp back into town going about five to ten miles an hour for twenty miles. 00:12:21 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we. 00:12:23 Speaker 5: Live all the way back into town. We have no service Luckily, there's an auto mechanic who's open in town and we roll in there and he's like, oh, I ain't got a wheel bearing that's in the next town over. 00:12:37 Speaker 4: He's like, he said it'd probably take two to three days. 00:12:40 Speaker 1: Do you have a truck that'll drive it an hour so we can go there a little faster. 00:12:45 Speaker 5: He's like, if you get a wheel bearing out, you ain't making it to that town. And so we pulled up in there. He's like, it might be the parking break, and so he takes a wheel off and takes the brake thing. He's like, yep, parking break. He's like, you don't need that. 00:13:00 Speaker 4: I have never seen Greg greg shot on the Element YouTube. 00:13:04 Speaker 1: I have never seen Greg so excited. He was like, yes, yes. 00:13:10 Speaker 2: So you just had to take like two screens out and just disengage it. 00:13:12 Speaker 5: He just took all the broken like the parker break just exploded inside. It was in like a like. 00:13:19 Speaker 2: A so many people running with it on or why did he do that? 00:13:22 Speaker 5: No, it's just old. Uh. 00:13:23 Speaker 7: When I when I took it to go get inspected, h the guy was like, you're gonna need a new parker break, And I was like, ah, whatever, and then this happened. 00:13:38 Speaker 1: Gowing up he needs a new parking break. 00:13:39 Speaker 5: So now I definitely need a new parker break. 00:13:41 Speaker 1: I go it. 00:13:43 Speaker 5: But uh so we were excited to hear that news. 00:13:46 Speaker 2: But she burned how much time doing that? Three hours? 00:13:51 Speaker 5: Not much? I was. I thought it was gonna be like it's gonna be two or three days before we even get the hunt, and it just took a couple hours, like probably too two three hours of limp back in town and then we were off and running after that. 00:14:05 Speaker 6: Greg buttered him up with a little guitar talk and yeah. 00:14:07 Speaker 5: We started talking about music he used to play. 00:14:09 Speaker 4: And didn't even have to pay. 00:14:10 Speaker 5: He was like, we're good. I was like, we got out of there good. 00:14:17 Speaker 1: We know how cool we are. 00:14:19 Speaker 4: So I doubt you're listening, but thank you man, thank you nice guy. 00:14:23 Speaker 5: But I was. 00:14:28 Speaker 1: He's fishing service. 00:14:33 Speaker 5: But we were off and running after that. And uh, but he didn't get all the pieces out of the parking break. Yeah, so there's still like stuff like rattling around in there. 00:14:45 Speaker 1: Yeah he did it for free, but yeah, kind of didn't really finish. 00:14:50 Speaker 3: So I still got to go in there and do that and take the drum apart and just get to that. 00:14:54 Speaker 5: Yeah, you just take the drum off, and all the parking break pieces were in. 00:14:58 Speaker 1: There, supposed to be pieced, like saying a sleigh coming up this morning and drive away. 00:15:05 Speaker 2: That's funny, but it's really good. 00:15:07 Speaker 5: You drive around and all the deer they picked their heads up. Oh yeah, look at your Yeah. 00:15:12 Speaker 1: They're wondering if they're being summoned to take all their presents to everybody. 00:15:19 Speaker 2: Yea. 00:15:21 Speaker 5: So we we driveway back in and we see dose like immediately like one hundred yards from our camp. 00:15:31 Speaker 2: Dude, what is the buck to dough ratio on? It's got to be like ten thousands to one buck. I feel like you just see the dos like, I. 00:15:39 Speaker 4: Don't know, it depends on the spot. 00:15:40 Speaker 2: I kind of joked about it. 00:15:41 Speaker 5: But we were like kind of lower elevation and we're seeing nothing of doze. I saw like one spike that was hanging around a bunch of does and uh but uh we uh, we just couldn't find any bucks where we were, And all I could think was like, man, may we need to go to like high elevation, cooler temperatures, Like maybe the bucks are just hanging out up there and so we we after driving around a lot, we just packed up camp and look for something high up and uh, that's uh where we started going on the Western. 00:16:20 Speaker 4: Dude, it got western real quick. This is like a road that is the size of old Blue. Like you look off one end and it's just like eight hundred feet to the bottom. 00:16:33 Speaker 5: I mean it's just like the rock is like roughest road. 00:16:36 Speaker 1: Likes a real chill guy. 00:16:40 Speaker 4: But he was sitting there just white and knuckles like, I'm not going off. 00:16:45 Speaker 5: There's no way to like turn around. So it's like you're going all the way or you're yeah, backing up from. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: Out because sooner or later somebody meets another personal stuff roads. 00:16:56 Speaker 2: What do you do? 00:16:57 Speaker 5: I have no idea. 00:16:59 Speaker 6: I don't like the life. 00:17:00 Speaker 1: One time we were in Colorado doing that same thing and we were on the outside lane and she she freaked out. She said, my tire was off the like off the cliff. I mean I was closed, but it wasn't. There's no way it was off the cliff, but it was close, and she freaked out. 00:17:23 Speaker 2: I think they all have the same voice whenever. 00:17:25 Speaker 1: That Oh yeah, dude, it's this thing that raises your blood pressure by four hundred beats per second. 00:17:30 Speaker 3: So I watched a reel the other day where this dude was in the car with his girlfriend there in Florida, and I think it's during the hurricane. 00:17:37 Speaker 2: Y'all might have seen it. 00:17:38 Speaker 3: It's funny because you're like in traffic, stopped at a red light and like power poles were getting blown down, and she and the dude's filming and uh, you just hear this girl go brad Dune. 00:17:52 Speaker 2: He's like, I can't do anything about it, Ashley, we're stuck in traffic. I feel you, bro, I'll feel you, because what do we do? 00:18:01 Speaker 1: Everything I can? I was like. 00:18:04 Speaker 4: No, I was just rubber necking straight up looking for mule deer the entire time because I did not want to look off to the left off. 00:18:12 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:18:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what'd you find at the top of the mountain. 00:18:14 Speaker 5: So we're like twenty miles up this dirt road and it's getting worse as the higher you go. And we get about less than a mile from the top and Michael goes mule deer and we look up about sixty yards and there's the biggest framed buck I've ever seen ever. 00:18:39 Speaker 1: We lost it in that moment. 00:18:41 Speaker 5: We were so happy. We were pumped. This is the first buck we'd seen on the whole trip, and uh is a day before the season. So we just kind of get some footage and just like keep on driving hopefully he like kind of sticks around and we get up to the top and there's just like the most perfect campsite of her and so we're like, all right, we're camping here, I guess. And so we camped there and wanted to spend the first few days this season up there. 00:19:08 Speaker 2: Y'all have plenty of water. There was water up there. 00:19:12 Speaker 5: There was some like seeps, like you could see water coming out of the mountain, but no drink. No. We got a big old like five six gallon blue jug. That's what we're drinking. 00:19:26 Speaker 1: Ye. 00:19:27 Speaker 2: Way better than pepper water. 00:19:29 Speaker 1: Oh I bet green chili water. 00:19:37 Speaker 2: So how long did y'all stay there? 00:19:40 Speaker 5: We stayed there too long, but uh we saw a giant buck. And then we had this local came up there and he couldn't believe we were up there deer hunting. He's like, I've never seen an out of stater up here deer hunting, because like the road is like yeah, but uh he he shows a video of seven melder bucks that were one hundred yards from where we can't like the day before wow, And so we were we were pumped about this one. 00:20:13 Speaker 4: I mean, we walked out of that like it was he drove up in the morning and we walked like. 00:20:19 Speaker 5: Up. 00:20:19 Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it a hill, but it did not feel like a hill. We walked up this hill and we like Greg turned around and we were like, this is the like we're in the spot. Like we had so much confidence going into that morning, which I'm starting to learn is an issue for me and Greg. If we have confidence, it's not gonna be good confidence kills. 00:20:36 Speaker 2: We don't need to say that anymore. 00:20:37 Speaker 4: No, not well, definitely not for me and Greg. We need to be the opposite way. 00:20:43 Speaker 5: I try to be that way. I try to rain Michael Ny. Yeah, dude, I get but uh man, we we thought we were in the spot. We're like, man, we just give it a couple of days, we're gonna see these bucks. And we kept going up on top of this mountain is probably he called it hill, but probably four hundred feet of elevation. We gained to like, you know, go up to the top. 00:21:09 Speaker 1: Called it the morning ritual. 00:21:11 Speaker 2: I would be tired for sure on that. 00:21:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had to take two or three breaks going up it. We're you know, we're above nine thousand feet, so it's it's a man, it's it wins you pretty bad. 00:21:23 Speaker 3: Remember we were turkey hunting this spring and we were going up that uh I don't know how to describe this without not being too specific, but that place that was further north. You remember going up that hill and we were like, oh, it's just right over that, and then we were like. 00:21:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's so it was not easy, but we we kept going up there. There's a bunch of like north facing slopes that we were trying to target deer on. And we went up there probably three or four mornings in a row and always saw it. There was like a mule deer dough in a fawn at like at like three miles down his drain three miles. 00:22:07 Speaker 4: Where it's like I see a deer and then we run get the spotter and it's like take me still couldn't still couldn't tell what it was with the spotter, It's like we are in trouble. 00:22:14 Speaker 5: It took me fifteen minutes to get the spotter on it because how far away it was. 00:22:18 Speaker 2: But so was the problem lack of deer or not the right like not checking the right stuff. 00:22:25 Speaker 5: Or well on the map, this stuff looks it looks good, like it's an old burn and looks like you'll be able to see deer, but the undergrowth is so thick, like I mean, it's it's over your head. And so I'm like, if there's deer in this, I mean, we're not even gonna be able to see them. 00:22:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have everything they need in that undergrowth. So it's like they're only going to be moving at very specific times. If you don't catch them out there, you don't have a chance. 00:22:54 Speaker 5: Yeah, especially as early season, like they're not moving much at all. 00:22:58 Speaker 1: And uh so when you say specific times, is it predictable. 00:23:04 Speaker 4: It wasn't predictable for us. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: No. 00:23:06 Speaker 4: We I mean we only saw that one dough and other than that, it was just a mental beat down up there. 00:23:16 Speaker 5: And also the elk are distracting. They are you see elk, and it's like it's so easy to pick out elk, and like you're looking for something like way smaller than elk, and you're looking. 00:23:28 Speaker 3: For a small gray thing and these big blonde things are just they're stealing your're just everywhere. 00:23:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're bugling, and it's like it's really hard not to just watch the Elk show. 00:23:38 Speaker 1: When pretty good bugling. Oh yeah the whole time. 00:23:42 Speaker 4: Well, the first couple of days it was a little slow, but like the last day we were there, they were hammering. 00:23:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, they were bugling back and forth at each other. We have morning mostly and like sometimes right around dark they googled. But yeah, one morning they were pretty fired. 00:23:56 Speaker 2: Up seeing ice ones. 00:23:58 Speaker 3: Uh so nice, Like, well, it's hard to describe to you because you haven't seen a lot of elk ry. 00:24:05 Speaker 2: Uh like six points are nice. 00:24:07 Speaker 5: We saw a bunch of six by six. Yeah, but just nothing like like that will blow your mind. But I saw quite a few elk. 00:24:15 Speaker 2: That's elk that most of us would like to shoot. 00:24:17 Speaker 4: I would love to shoot every single one of those. I saw every bull every boy saw. 00:24:22 Speaker 5: I was like, man, not me, Like I can tell there's no way I'm not shooting that bull. 00:24:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael is gone from uh misidentifying Mulier and elk. 00:24:48 Speaker 1: That never happened. 00:24:49 Speaker 2: That never happened, That wasn't put in for every oak tag he can in a year, So yeah, it's good. 00:24:55 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be my My goal is to shoot a sheet before I shoot an elk is. 00:25:00 Speaker 2: It might have Well, there's one way to make that happen. 00:25:04 Speaker 1: You're on your way even trying elk cutting. It doesn't mean I'm gonna be successful. You know. 00:25:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're trying harder. 00:25:14 Speaker 1: It feel like I'm getting further, actually getting further. 00:25:17 Speaker 2: Man, well, you saw an elk tag this year. 00:25:20 Speaker 1: I did say one. Yeah, I just didn't say one that I owned. That's nice. 00:25:26 Speaker 2: So the solution When did y'all? First of all, when. 00:25:32 Speaker 3: Did the exuberance turn to dismay? 00:25:40 Speaker 4: I'd say about I think third morning probably we got up there and we were both like this is dumb. 00:25:46 Speaker 5: We were just it's like we felt like we had to do it because there was like at least nine to ten bucks I would shoot that we're seen in this area. 00:25:58 Speaker 1: You know. 00:25:58 Speaker 5: The day before the season, I was like, I felt like we got to give it a few days. And after about day two I was probably like, man, this is dumb, but maybe maybe it'll pay off. And I think one day we did eight miles of hiking above nine thousand feet and. 00:26:15 Speaker 4: And Greg gets it like he's not a slow walker. He is getting it around the mountains. 00:26:20 Speaker 3: You get tired falling great, ye dude, I'm telling him so, I'm glad he feels me. 00:26:26 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say this. I don't want to say that. Me and Greg one time walked two and a half miles to a deer stand. Yeah, you're I couldn't get the four whether start A different four wheler, can't get it to start. I don't know what in the world is going on, but we walked five miles that morning. I bet you were getting there right after daylight and bump deer. 00:26:50 Speaker 4: I bet you were just so you were just smiling at you. 00:26:53 Speaker 1: There's there's footage of me getting blown out by a deer when we walk into the stand. 00:26:58 Speaker 3: I know what face you yet you do it's your favorite. 00:27:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. 00:27:06 Speaker 3: So y'all get up there on day three and you I know this feeling where you're like, oh, is. 00:27:12 Speaker 2: That other guy thinking what I'm thinking about this? 00:27:14 Speaker 5: Right? 00:27:14 Speaker 2: Yeah? Pretty much? And finally you're like somebody expresses and the other guy's. 00:27:18 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, man, So did y'all just sit on top of the mountain and make plans. 00:27:24 Speaker 5: Oh we did. 00:27:26 Speaker 4: I forget how we came down off the mountain and it was just like I was sitting there charging batteries, just laying back. Greg was like taking his hat off and doing the you know the Greg just like and I was like, oh, he is feeling this right now like he wants to. And he was starting to get mad at the mule deer. I was like, Greg, Greg is like kill one. 00:27:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta get mad at them. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: Things, that's man, that's when those go to dining. Yeah. Sure, yeah, dude. 00:27:59 Speaker 5: If I had a note, it was I was gonna let it. But uh well, we figured like something's got to change, like this is not working, Like I don't care if there's uh, you know, some giant bucks up here. We're gonna go find some more stockable habitat, you know where we can pick them up with Bino's and the spotter and do some spotting. 00:28:21 Speaker 1: Stock driving survived baby feels. 00:28:25 Speaker 5: So we packed up camp. Didn't know didn't know where we were headed, and uh just started driving around. 00:28:31 Speaker 2: What camp looked like? What were y'all staying in? 00:28:33 Speaker 5: Uh? I had a tent? He had a tent? 00:28:36 Speaker 2: Oh had you No? 00:28:40 Speaker 1: He stayed in the white one. 00:28:42 Speaker 4: I had some Magellan. I don't know whose it is. What color is it blue? 00:28:47 Speaker 2: I don't know who it is? 00:28:48 Speaker 6: Well gray and. 00:28:48 Speaker 1: Blue or two? I think it's a three. 00:28:55 Speaker 4: Did I give you? I gave you a north face. It's got some weird stuff going on in there. Those guys, the stains I don't like. 00:29:03 Speaker 1: I never stayed in that tent. I will say that I can tell you who stayed in it, though. Yeah, I think I know who it is, So then what'd you stay in? 00:29:12 Speaker 2: Brown? 00:29:12 Speaker 5: I've got some kind of like Amazon back country town I should. 00:29:15 Speaker 6: Talk about Greggstons talk about it. 00:29:18 Speaker 5: One day, one night, it just started to pour down rain, like poor pour down. 00:29:25 Speaker 1: Rain scene by the truck. 00:29:28 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and my tent just got flooded from the bottom, just like a river, just like Greg said. 00:29:36 Speaker 4: I had to put my phone on my air mat and I just stayed on there because that was the only thing above water. 00:29:42 Speaker 5: I just didn't keep it above water and. 00:29:44 Speaker 6: Just sleeping bag it wet, oh yeah, yeah, fever wet. 00:29:47 Speaker 1: In fact, the first time I maybe the only time I really got soaked Nebraska was the one time that was bad. But the New Mexico I think I was in college or just out, dude, ain't thing happened monsoon and like the river just started to sweep my dag. I'm tent away and my sleeping bag just like soaked up this water, and all night it got higher and higher and higher, and I just eventually it was like a little fetal position just in my bag, trying to keep my feet from getting cold, all. 00:30:18 Speaker 4: The camera stuff, my computer and everything, and I was just sitting there like, I hope whoever's tenth this is doesn't have a hole in it, because. 00:30:26 Speaker 1: If so, you're in trouble. Yeah, I stay completely dry. You're welcome. So whoever's ten it is, it's one of you two, it's not mine, but. 00:30:35 Speaker 6: I'll take it real nice. I mean, if it's waterproof, I'll take it. 00:30:38 Speaker 2: It's waterproof for sure. 00:30:39 Speaker 5: But yeah, I was. I was soaking wet, and I had to start the truck and get the heater going the next morning trying yeah. 00:30:47 Speaker 2: The year before, go to go longer man and try everything out. 00:30:50 Speaker 5: Yeah, luckily it's you know, everything dries out pretty good up there. 00:30:53 Speaker 2: So yeah, and it's weird, yeah, like it'll come a soaker in the end. The afternoon it's. 00:30:59 Speaker 5: Just laid everything out before we went walking up the hill and everything dried out. 00:31:03 Speaker 1: Was it not temp? 00:31:05 Speaker 5: That night was like fifty call those nimps fifty and soaking wet. It's pretty cold. 00:31:10 Speaker 1: Okken, can't keep y'all's minds off of the trout, that's right. 00:31:17 Speaker 5: But we packed up at camp, got out of there, drove and didn't know where we're headed, and we just started driving trying to figure out a spot to hunt. 00:31:26 Speaker 2: So you didn't have a pen to bounce to you. 00:31:29 Speaker 4: You had an idea, but it was like, we're not going to stay married to anything. 00:31:33 Speaker 5: We're just gonna It's like like this country down here, like looks like we can spot and stalk in it. So we kind of headed that way and we started driving around and as soon as we get to this spot, I kind of an area on the map, I you know, thought to go to. 00:31:50 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:31:51 Speaker 5: We started getting out of the truck looking in creek bottoms and we start seeing deer tracks just everywhere. We went like, okay, there's deer here. And we checked a few water holes and there's deer tracks, and I was like also bear tracks, yeah. 00:32:04 Speaker 1: Also. 00:32:06 Speaker 6: Like quite a bit or just just. 00:32:08 Speaker 5: Some one waterhole. But I was just checking the waterholes to make sure that there were deer in these draws, like like I wasn't gonna hunt the water holes, but you know, just making sure there's deer in the area. And we found a good place to camp and kind of glass from and stayed there. We saw like one meal deir dough that night, a tiny just a tiny at like two hundred yards and you couldn't even see her. 00:32:35 Speaker 4: I like to put binos up to and like, I think I got some pretty good eyes, but I put binos like I was looking. I was like, Greg, I have no idea where this thing is. And I put binos up and I'm like, oh, right there, like literally right in front of me. 00:32:54 Speaker 5: But like yeah, I was like looking in the direction of this dough and like put up binos and like I was like, there's a deer there. Like what it was only like two hundred yards, so it was still tough to see deer in this country. But we saw one tiny dough that evening and then got up the next But we got up the next morning and uh started glassing and we weren't seeing anything. Some like some is coming up over the mountain and we're like looking nothing. And so I was like, let's get in the truck and do a loop, see if we can spook something. I don't I don't know. We're just trying to see a deer. 00:33:37 Speaker 2: I know that inspiration mode, just like let me spook a you. 00:33:39 Speaker 5: So and so, like we hop in the truck and we drive like four or five hundred yards and we see like a tiny meal deer dough again, like it's probably a different one but just does a little meal deer hop and just runs away. And we go drive around, don't see anything, get all the way back to camp. It's like it's probably eight eight fifteen at this point, and I'm like I'm fifteen twenty minutes from pulling camp and leaving. 00:34:07 Speaker 1: Like I'm like going home or too, like going to a different place. 00:34:10 Speaker 6: Yeah, Spirits were really. 00:34:12 Speaker 5: Like we were thinking like maybe we got a we got a backcountry this thing. We got a hike way back in somewhere and to do this. 00:34:20 Speaker 1: Michael was texting me at one point, maybe around this time. 00:34:23 Speaker 4: It was the night the night before that, and like he basically I was saying some stuff that I was worried about for sure, what the oh meo trail mix fix. 00:34:37 Speaker 1: And they go off off grid and I was like, ain't worth dying, ain't no deer. I was like, because y'all didn't have any water, really any dry goods or free dry food water filter. 00:34:51 Speaker 6: Okay, and you used it? 00:34:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I've used it. 00:34:54 Speaker 4: We gave it this or he gave it this. 00:34:57 Speaker 5: And I've got some jet balls and we're we're thinking about doing the back country and just like trying to get away from people because the big problem where the first spot was elk hunters. Elk hunters came in. I think they were kind of bumping the deer round two and so that was kind of a problem. But uh, in this new spot, I mean, we're we're fifteen to twenty minutes from leaving. I'm like, we hadn't seen a deer all morning, and I'm walking down the ridge. I'm like throwing rocks down into the ditch, just like trying to spook something, just see if they're here. And I see Michael kind of rush over and run to grab the spotter, and I'm like, oh, what does he see? And so I start running back kind of over towards camp and he gets the spotter on this one spot and uh broke it sees a buck. 00:35:46 Speaker 4: I dropped it rolled down to the mountain it spotter, but what did you see? I ran over, got the spotter and by the time I got back over, he had already dropped down into a little like dried up creek bottom and I was like, like crap, Like what does this mean? 00:36:02 Speaker 2: Now? 00:36:03 Speaker 4: It's like, do we go after this thing because it might be a buck? But we have no idea? And I get my phone scope or whatever you want to. 00:36:11 Speaker 3: Call it, what they call you brag them. We don't make any money off those things, but what do you. 00:36:15 Speaker 1: These all ins? 00:36:16 Speaker 4: They're like a magnetized phone case that you can put on a spotter and just like look, first off, if you're looking through a spoder for a long time. 00:36:25 Speaker 1: That is a good way to have a headache. 00:36:26 Speaker 5: Yes, hurt. 00:36:28 Speaker 1: Speaking of sheep hunting, the first one I went on in August. Dude, I have to like it looked like twelve hours a day through spotter. 00:36:35 Speaker 6: I have to like. 00:36:36 Speaker 4: Hold an eye like a hand over an eye just so I can look through that for a long time. But these things you just pop on the spotter and you can just watch it through your phone and it makes it way easy. 00:36:46 Speaker 2: It's just like snap and it's where it needs to be. 00:36:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no hand. You could just run solar into your phone and so you could basically run that thing all day. 00:36:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's some issues with that, but we potentially potentially potentially your phone might blow up. 00:37:01 Speaker 1: But yeah, those are called that is it? Two l's yes, L L I N. Yeah. Those are pretty cool man, things are real nice. 00:37:09 Speaker 4: The only issue I found is like magnetized rocks will get down in there, but you just blow it out and it works. 00:37:16 Speaker 3: The other issue is that there's there's a couple there's a couple of options on those things. If you are using like the navigation feature on X sometimes it gets a little weird. 00:37:27 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 00:37:28 Speaker 3: And then Tyler's all in is like a one piece deal and your phone overheats with it on, or it did one time. 00:37:35 Speaker 1: But there was a hundred degrees yest. Most most guys are hunt when it's that hot. 00:37:40 Speaker 3: Those right there, you can take the outside case on and leave the rubberized case on the phone and it just makes the phone crazy. Yeah, I did not know that's what mine does. That's awesome, is it? And there are two pieces to that, I think. So he's like, I don't. 00:37:53 Speaker 1: Know, I don't know. 00:37:54 Speaker 4: I just like I just put this is my new phone case. Like I literally just it's what I use now. 00:37:59 Speaker 2: The problem is he's plenty five and then the flashlight. It's kind of weird. 00:38:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, otherwise it's it doesn't matter. 00:38:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all right. 00:38:06 Speaker 1: For for I take mine off after the hunt. But on the hunt, I just stroll with it, and yeah, yeah, it's awesome, super easy. 00:38:13 Speaker 5: So so you get the spotter. 00:38:15 Speaker 4: I got my phone on the spotter and like as soon as it like clicks on magnetize, I just see a big old frame come up out of the creek bottle and it's like I'm like buck, good buck, good buck. And it's like a freak out. It's like do we just run down there and go after this thing? And so we sit there, played a little conservative and we sit there and just watch, like make sure he's gonna be in this hole. 00:38:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, he went behind this like embankment, like where we could see the backside of this hill and there's some cedars on the other side of the hill, and uh, he went behind that. And from what we could tell, did not come out the other side. 00:38:58 Speaker 4: I mean, we were burning up at this point, like we are in desperation mode, and this buck is way bigger than we thought we were gonna get on. 00:39:04 Speaker 1: How many days do you feel like you have left at this point? You still feel like you got quite a few days. 00:39:11 Speaker 5: Still feeling good. I think we felt good to get off the mountain and. 00:39:15 Speaker 4: We could cover some ground, get to some lower elevation where we could gotcha, you know, cover ground. 00:39:20 Speaker 5: But yeah, we were just burning a hole, just trying to make sure he doesn't come out. And and when we saw him, it was like just the time that it was starting to get hot out and so I figured he was going to bed down, and so we made a big loop after we thought he was in there, went around and came up on this this other hill that we could see down into there. 00:39:47 Speaker 4: It's probably what like two hundred yards I think it was. 00:39:49 Speaker 5: Like four hundred. It was like four fifty I think. And we pop over the hill and like real quick, I go I see him, like I said, I see him better, and the cedar tree and the guys I'm talking big, and so I see him to the binders, and I keep looking I'm like, there's two of them. I see another buck in front of them, and I was like, man, the wind's right. I mean, I bet we can go down this creek bottom and like get get a shot. 00:40:20 Speaker 4: Before that happened, Greg said, I think the one you saw was the smaller one, and I was like, freak out. 00:40:25 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness. 00:40:28 Speaker 5: The one, yeah, one we had funk Scot was a pretty good one, and uh there were some bigger ones. But uh we started working the way down the creek bottom because I think the creek gets within sixty yards where this deer is, and uh. 00:40:43 Speaker 6: Are you gonna shoot if you get to sixty? 00:40:44 Speaker 5: I was trying to get inside. Sixty was like where I wanted to. 00:40:49 Speaker 6: Greg was like, but. 00:40:52 Speaker 2: It's kind of like. 00:40:54 Speaker 5: To if it's eighty. And I got the perfect range, and I can you know, I'm which. 00:41:00 Speaker 4: I've seen Greg shoot today. He's pretty good out there. 00:41:03 Speaker 5: I won the little competition outside seventy water. 00:41:07 Speaker 3: Your arras I think of five five and you got your shooting at fast bow. 00:41:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, performance at seventy pounds. 00:41:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you can do it. Just got to get the rain, yeah. 00:41:19 Speaker 5: Just kick at the range. But we started working at the creek bottom and we get to like two hundred to something and Michael gets Michael before that. 00:41:29 Speaker 4: Before that, we're walking down the creek bank or creek bottom and it's just like like acorns just popping like crazy. Oh, it was like it was it looked like the Midwest in this creek bottle. 00:41:42 Speaker 6: There were acorns, so that's why they're in there. 00:41:45 Speaker 5: It was for sure a thing like there were deer tracks and acorns all down the creek bottom. And I was like, this is where they're living right here. And uh, I think the elk reading them too in there, but airs probably too. 00:42:00 Speaker 4: Everything. 00:42:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, And so we found that. We thought, okay, this is this is something. And we get to like two hundred yards and Michael gives my attention and there's a deer like standing up in two of them in the wide open. They just stood up out of their bed and started feeding out. 00:42:19 Speaker 1: And uh. 00:42:19 Speaker 5: The small one caught us and it was like staring us down in this creek bottom. 00:42:26 Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, yeah, I was. 00:42:28 Speaker 5: Like crap, we got caught. Luckily it was a small one and he got kind of weird. But the other ones, the bigger ones, had no clue. They were still feeding around, and they fed across the draw and go this other cedar tree, and there's another buck underneath that ceedar tree, and it's a it's a big four by four, and uh, they kind of bump him out of his bed, and then two of them feedback across the draw. We lose sight of them, and then we loose sight of the other one, and we have no clue what happened, and we just kind of lost track the box, and so we just kind of got out of there and went back up to our glass and knob back of camp. 00:43:07 Speaker 4: And after a gas station chicken sandwich. 00:43:10 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had to go get a gas station chicken sandwich. 00:43:12 Speaker 1: So yeah, so good dude, Hey you laughed at it. Yeah, it was laughable, exactly right. I can tell you what it tastes like right now. I hadn't had one in years. 00:43:25 Speaker 3: It tastes like you're seeing them squirrels chewing on the antlers that deer drop off their heads. 00:43:29 Speaker 2: That's what it tastes like. 00:43:30 Speaker 4: This thing was tender. 00:43:32 Speaker 1: You see this blind right here, That's what it tastes like. It's if you do you just take the listen, you take the chicken sandwich out of the package wrapping and eat the package wrapping. 00:43:42 Speaker 3: You've ever been in a house where the sheet rockers just got done and you gotta sweep up all that stuff and clean up. 00:43:48 Speaker 2: Imagine just taking that and just doping your mouth. 00:43:52 Speaker 1: Just called dried strawberries. That's good to die out in New Mexico. 00:44:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, back to camp. 00:44:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, we get back to camp, well, after going to get chicken sandwich and all that, get back to camp. It's about four or thirty or something like that, and Michael spots a buck. Uh it's one of the bucks in the group from camp. 00:44:29 Speaker 3: From camp, we'all like driving a big old thing around to get to these things to stalk them or something. 00:44:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like we're probably a thousand yards from them at camp, and then we drive around and gets about four fifty from them on the other side. But he spots a buck down in the draw over from where we were stalking them, and small buck kind of disappears, and then like two big ones pop up and start feeding down the draw, and we got eyes on them, and one of them beds down in our cedar tree, and then the big one is just standing there and forever we're just waiting. We're waiting from to bed and we're gonna hop in the truck and drive around and come over the backside and try to stalk him. But he finally beds down, and I'm like, I figure we have about an hour to get over there, and we hop in the truck, get over there. We start stalking in. We get to about eighty eight yards from a tree that I know there's a buck bedded, and we're sneaking down this hill and Michael gives my attention there's bucks already just about two hundred yards feeding out. 00:45:34 Speaker 4: I just saw like down in that little there's like a like a tiny little bowl, like ten yards, like a tiny bowl, and I just saw like something in there just thrash inside to side, and I had no idea what was going on, but I was like, I'm guessing that's the bucks. 00:45:50 Speaker 1: What was going on? I don't really know. 00:45:53 Speaker 5: I think they're just feeding on stuff or just kind of like I think it's a lot of them. We're swatting flies with their ears a lot, and so you catch that movement pretty easily. But yeah, we saw those bucks, and at this point we only think there's about three bucks. 00:46:11 Speaker 3: But uh, is that more or less than the chicken sandwich was? That is, half half has a six dollar chicken sandwich chix dollars. 00:46:23 Speaker 4: Even, but they got a microwave for you. It was fancy, some fancy stuff. 00:46:28 Speaker 1: I think in Dallas it's fifteen. Man, I think it's more than that. I can't tell you. But even kill chickens in New Mexico, yeah, legal to kill animals. 00:46:44 Speaker 5: We see those bucks and like just bucks keep coming. 00:46:48 Speaker 4: Out of everywhere. It looks like a clown car. Like bucks kept coming out of it. 00:46:54 Speaker 5: It's like they kept like they kept going back in this like a little hole and then like coming out. And then at the one time, five or six of them come walking out in a line, and I thought they were gonna feed their way in the shade, like right down the draw to us. 00:47:09 Speaker 4: But it was like as the thermal was starting to switch, they did that, and it was like, I mean, it just makes sense for them to come right down the edge of this hill right into our laps. 00:47:20 Speaker 5: So we sat there for the next two hours, probably till dark, waiting for these bucks to work their way to us. But they never did. It gave the slip. 00:47:32 Speaker 2: It's a shame. 00:47:32 Speaker 1: It all got slipped. It got slipped for sure. 00:47:36 Speaker 5: We backed out of there and we're like, I'll just find them in the morning, I guess. And the next morning we pick them up again about the a little later than the morning before. The first morning we saw him at like eight thirty seven. This morning we saw him at eight forty four, and it's like just as the sun is starting to get hot, that's when you see them going to their bed. And uh, we spotted them and they went back to the same same spot they went the first time. It's on and I forget what we do. Then we we got in between. 00:48:14 Speaker 4: Where they were and where we think they readjusted to the first day. So we were just trying to We thought, as it like the sun got higher up into the sky, if we got to where they were yesterday, they're just gonna come right down the lane right. 00:48:31 Speaker 2: At us, trying to be between bed one and bed two. 00:48:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, it made sense, like the way the draws were that the best shade was in this draw that we were gonna go hunt and they were gonna move to it, and uh, the wind was not blowing hard at all, So like spotting stock was like, I don't know I don't know how I feel about it. So we just kind of tried to hunt them like white tails and like just try to catch them, going from bed to food and bed to bed. Really but uh, we got set up in there and that evening, Uh we got set up and you spotted a buck betted. Yeah, at like three hours. 00:49:09 Speaker 4: I first saw he was just up in a seaar I think, just eating the cedar berries or doing something. And I saw a butt, like with my eyes, I could see it, and I was like, surely that's not a buck. So we like kind of get set up. I get the tripod out and get all the camera stuff good, and like I put Bino's up on it, and it's like, that's a buck. And as I like him realizing that, he just beds down facing away from us, and I mean it is just me and Greg sitting there just like, well, I think we could do this, but then if we do that, then this is gonna happen. And just like trying to figure out a way to go after this buck. 00:49:45 Speaker 5: And like we we didn't know where all the other bucks were betted, so like and he was like kind of way out by himself, but we we just played conservative again and just you know, see what they do. And we felt like we were in a good spot. And later that even we saw them, he got up and fed down into the creek bottom and things started to get pretty uh, pretty exciting. Greg. 00:50:14 Speaker 4: His biny harness was moving three feet off his chest. 00:50:18 Speaker 1: I mean it was like, I thought your nose didn't make noise in that mic. Well, he was faking that for sure. It came out of my right noschril that time. 00:50:28 Speaker 6: I felt it flare out a little. 00:50:32 Speaker 4: But Greg was, I mean freaking out when he first saw him. He does a good job. He can calm himself down pretty good because there were a couple of deep breaths there and it was it was. 00:50:42 Speaker 1: Back to normal, Greg. 00:50:43 Speaker 5: It was back in the kill move. 00:50:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 00:50:45 Speaker 4: I mean we were pumped up when it started to happen. 00:50:48 Speaker 5: We saw buck dropp into the creek bottom and then probably probably thirty minutes later, I just I'm putting binos down the creek bottom, just looking for deer, and all of a sudden he am tips walking down the creek bottom and this is like one hundred and seventy five. 00:51:04 Speaker 4: Yards where if he worked down the creek bank, how far of a shot was it gonna be. 00:51:08 Speaker 5: I had a spot at fifty two I was had marked that he was going to get to and I was gonna just shoot him. And h They're working up the creek bottom and uh, just taking their time forever. 00:51:22 Speaker 4: They hit this one bend in the creek and just like stop. They just pop up on top and check it out and then drop right back down and just both sides of it. They were just doing that and we were like, I was sitting there filming them, and I'm like, what is happened? Like, why are they just stalled out right in this spot? And sure enough, we were sitting there and Greg goes. 00:51:44 Speaker 1: What was that? 00:51:45 Speaker 2: I think I heard something? 00:51:46 Speaker 4: And then like he's like, there's a buck up on top, so like the buck bounded out or something. I didn't even hear it. He's got some he got some weird ears on it. 00:51:55 Speaker 5: But they came here and I heard hoofs spook on the rocks. You can kind of hear it, you know, like the wind was perfect before all this was. 00:52:08 Speaker 2: They don't have those in Ohio. That's why he doesn't know what that sounded. 00:52:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know when I hear that rock sound like. 00:52:15 Speaker 2: That's not You're used to hearing that growing up. 00:52:18 Speaker 5: But when this all started, the wind was perfect, it was interface and they're coming up the draw it was just taking their time. And then the wind is completely stalled out and I think the thermals got us. 00:52:31 Speaker 6: But Martin, if you're listening, it's a real thing. The he's going to run a podcast called on the River. 00:52:44 Speaker 2: It's a good one. I'm about to make that right now so you can get it. 00:52:50 Speaker 5: But I was. I was a little bummed after after that, we heard him spook and they just kind of worked their way off and we hiked all the way back up to CAMPMP, which is its pretty tough little it's it's just all uphill through like sand and stuff, and it's it's terrible. But uh, we get back to camp just like try to relocate them in the morning and we're glassing all morning long and never see them like and but luckily at about it's probably seven forty five, seven thirty, I see a deer like way off like over a mile away, and I tried to get the spotter on it. I couldn't get on time and lost it. And then about eight thirty we pick it up again and I get the spotter on it and it's it's a buck and it's a group of bucks, and I get the spot on them and they go behind this hill and I don't know if it's two or three bucks. I couldn't tell. I just knew there's at least two bucks in there, and they're they're all legal. And we see him go behind this hill and I started looking at on the map. I'm like, they're probably gonna bed on the other side of that hill because there's like cedars on it, the wind is right, and I kept, you know, burning a hole on the other side of that hill and never saw him come out. So we gave him to about nine fifteen, and we're like, let's go make a move on him. And I told Michael's like, I feel good about this, like three or four times I said I feel good about this. And so we head over there. There's another hill that's probably two hundred yards from where I think these bucks might bed. And we get up to that hill and we peek over the edge of it and like immediately after I peek over the edge, I see a buck bedded under a cedar tree, and uh, it's the it's the smaller one, and and I keep looking. I know there's another buck in there. And finally the small one gets up. He's like swatting fly around, and uh, I knew he was going to give up the other, the other buck, And so he got up and like circled around and kind of nudged the big buck, and I saw his antlers move up in the cedar. I was like, okay, and I mark that spot on the map. And uh, the small bug like fed off to the right, and like I lost sight of him. I didn't know where he went, but I saw that the big buck was bedded under this tree, and I was like, okay, we need to go now because that buck's kind of out of the picture. 00:55:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, before before this morning, like the night before, we were like if we see a buck tomorrow, like we're going we're going at him, like it's time to just get it. 00:55:38 Speaker 5: We were gonna go start getting aggressive. And the fact that we found a different group of bucks, I was like, might as well, Like let's let's go get get aggressible on these. But uh saw the smaller buck moved out and it seemed like and the bigger buck was facing away down the hill. I was like, man, if we come around the hill and come over over the side, it's gonna be like, it's gonna be perfect. And so we we take off. I'd chug a bunch of water because never know how long you're gonna be out there. 00:56:09 Speaker 6: And the last black rifle. 00:56:10 Speaker 5: Yeah, last black rifle, last one, the last one in my two twelve packs. I drink the last black rifle I had on the drive over to to go get this buck. But uh, we uh made a big loop and uh came up over the hill that they were on, and it starts getting spooky. You start looking at the map and you're like, you know, measuring to the tree, and you're like, we're like one hundred yards. I'm like, I can't believe that. 00:56:41 Speaker 1: I don't see any of this. 00:56:42 Speaker 4: Like Greg is just like sitting there and you'll like range up into the trees and I'm like, oh, he's ranging tops of trees right now. Like this thing's about we're about to be on top of this year. Like I'm freaking out. 00:56:53 Speaker 5: And like and like the wind is not blowing like hardly at all, and so like every step is just the loudest thing you've ever heard. 00:57:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just rocks out there, and. 00:57:04 Speaker 5: Uh, I'm ranging and I'm like, I get one point it says fifty four yards from the tree. That I was like like thought this buck was betted. And you're always like kind of questioning yourself like whether is that the right tree to the right mark, the right tree on the map or not. 00:57:22 Speaker 4: The whole week, Greg had also been saying, like, if we go after a buck in a hole, like we just need to expect that he is going to be in that hole. 00:57:29 Speaker 5: You just got a ball. 00:57:30 Speaker 4: I was thinking about the entire stock. You gotta believe he's there. He's gonna be in the hole. You just gotta believe he's there. You can't get relax and think he's not there and mess it up. But uh, we started stalking and. 00:57:46 Speaker 5: And uh the most obvious past to most obvious path to like stalk to him was like this trail, but it was like rocks and it was like real crunchy grass. I was like, ah, we can't go there. And luckily there's like this soft dirt stuff that was like kind of sandy, and we stayed on that stuff and we were able to get really close at that point and start stalking up and I get his attention. I catch a tail flicker out of the corner of my eye and I see a buck betted at like twenty four yards. 00:58:23 Speaker 1: He turns around and. 00:58:24 Speaker 4: It's just like, I mean, his eyes were the size of his head. 00:58:31 Speaker 5: But I saw the buck, but at twenty four yards, did not expect him to be there because I still can't see the bottom of the tree of where I think the buck is betted. And so you know, at this point, we're we're we've been camping for eight days. Like I'm stunk so bad, I'm ready to shoot a buck. 00:58:53 Speaker 4: I'm ready to shoot when michaels anowledging that dude every night when I got in the tent, actually the last night we stayed in the tent, I had to I had to vin it. 00:59:01 Speaker 1: It was so bad, like I had to have the window open. 00:59:04 Speaker 5: The window so bad. 00:59:08 Speaker 4: Open the window translate for the Northerners. 00:59:13 Speaker 5: So yeah, I was ain't no northern it this far. 00:59:16 Speaker 2: In this podcast, there's. 00:59:17 Speaker 4: A couple of there's a couple Hey, hey, look I look at the analytics. I see you out there, mister Northerner. 00:59:24 Speaker 1: I know you're there, the one and. 00:59:27 Speaker 2: Actually that might just be just me and Eric. That's actually your home address, Yeah, showing up. 00:59:34 Speaker 5: But yeah, so I'm I'm ready to kill a buck at this point. So any legal buck I'm I'm taking. 00:59:41 Speaker 2: And that's a pretty nice thing whenever you get to that point. 00:59:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, shoot, I was happy about it, yep. 00:59:49 Speaker 5: And so I see this buck out of the corner of my eye and it's it's the smaller of the two, and uh, I'm definitely gonna shoot the buck if I get a chance. And he's betted there and I can I can tell he's irritated because he keeps like swatting flies with his ears and he's just kind of I was like, I knew he was gonna stand up. Ir Yeah. 01:00:12 Speaker 1: That's how he knew, because. 01:00:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but I saw him. I can tell he's about to stand up, And uh, I thought about drawing and like sneaking around the side of the seater and trying to shoot him, but I figured he was going to stand up. 01:00:33 Speaker 4: Taking mind, I can't see any of this that's happening. So I'm like sitting back there just trying to get every inch possible and not blow this entire thing up because we've been there for eight days and Greg would strain. 01:00:46 Speaker 1: Skipped out of there. 01:00:47 Speaker 4: So I'm just like like bouncing on one leg for like twenty seconds. She's trying to get every single inch I can get and get any footage and go for it. 01:00:58 Speaker 5: I'm watching him and I see him like move to start to stand up, and I go, here we go, and Michael gets ready, gets the camera on him. He stands up and walks out. I arranged his one seater at twenty four yards that was kind of even with him, and he was starting to walk behind that and I guessed him at like twenty six or twenty seven, and I just put my thirty low and just made the best shot I've ever shot on a deer. 01:01:26 Speaker 1: Let's go. Dude turned around and was just like boom right away. 01:01:30 Speaker 5: So pumped. 01:01:31 Speaker 1: The video is good, man. I can't wait for y'all to see it. It's pretty cool. 01:01:35 Speaker 5: Dude. The sound when that, like when that arrow hit the chest cavity, it was just like I hadn't heard that in a while. 01:01:42 Speaker 4: But the prong horn hunting, it was kind of just a lot of yeah nothing but yeah nothing. 01:01:49 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:01:50 Speaker 5: So man made the shot. He ran out about fifty yards. I told Michael, He's gonna tip over right there, and he just tips over. And what's crazy is the there was a big buck with him. This buck is probably probably one to twenty, probably one hundred and twenty each year, And I would have lost my mind if I shot that. Yeah, but looking back, I probably could have seen him from where I was. He was just up underneath the cedar tree. I was only probably forty yards from h but I couldn't pass up the perfect shot. 01:02:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty four yard nice. 01:02:29 Speaker 2: Nice when they're in tight. 01:02:30 Speaker 5: Like that, spotting stock like that. 01:02:31 Speaker 1: It was. 01:02:32 Speaker 5: It was cool. 01:02:33 Speaker 2: Thank you, well, congrats in the first servid, first all season. 01:02:37 Speaker 5: First mule deer, first out of state deer, first velvet. 01:02:40 Speaker 4: Deer, all these ad New Mexico is feeling like a curse for the element there for a while. 01:02:44 Speaker 2: But yeah, what's Bill Bob Thornton say? I ain't no curses, right? 01:02:49 Speaker 5: He said that's true? 01:02:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know you don't know who Billy Bob Thornton is. 01:02:55 Speaker 1: When's the guy from Bad News Bears? 01:02:56 Speaker 6: Right? 01:02:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you could say that the guy from sling Blade that married Angelina. Joe Lee was the coach in Friday that lights. 01:03:07 Speaker 1: He wasn't the coach in Friday Night Lights when he was Wow, yeah, I don't even remember. I don't know if I. 01:03:13 Speaker 3: Really had that three way tie and they had to flip to see who was going to go to the playoffs and huh yeah, a lot of things anyways, Yeah, things curses, man, that's true. 01:03:27 Speaker 2: Way to go, guys. I'm glad you made it home and they get to go see mem in New Mexico again. Back man, tell you what, why are you more tan. 01:03:35 Speaker 4: Than Michael because I'm from the north. Yeah, but in the sun, Greg had short sleeve shirts on. I was not about to mess with no sunburn. I had the long sleeve trace on the entire time. Don't let people for you. You don't need UV protection, dude. 01:03:50 Speaker 6: But did you get burnt underneath it? 01:03:53 Speaker 2: Huh? 01:03:54 Speaker 1: What are people talking about? 01:03:55 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, dude, you gotta be pasty. I get Yeah, so escu any seedles than you are out there? That's right, you're on the mountain. 01:04:06 Speaker 2: How many how many meals you all get turkey sandwiches? Eighty percent of your meals? Did you eat turkey sandwiches? 01:04:14 Speaker 5: Is at least sixty? 01:04:16 Speaker 2: Oh? 01:04:16 Speaker 4: It was We had two dinners of back strapping potatoes, turkey sandwiches. 01:04:21 Speaker 2: Good fuel. What deer was that? 01:04:23 Speaker 5: There's just some deer I shot. 01:04:25 Speaker 1: Just random deer pretty much. 01:04:28 Speaker 5: I think it was get I had one from twenty twenty. It didn't taste that great. Yeah, the twenty twenty one buck tasted good, really good. 01:04:37 Speaker 1: It's good. 01:04:37 Speaker 4: That was right after the eight mile day. 01:04:39 Speaker 5: Too, so we yeah, yeah, so that was good fuel on the mountain. 01:04:42 Speaker 2: It looked like you'll ate two pounds of potatoes each every time you cook potatoes. 01:04:46 Speaker 5: Well cook them and you know you could get two meals of potatoes. 01:04:49 Speaker 2: I see, Yeah, get lectuc tater in there. 01:04:52 Speaker 1: Gregg's fixing and to have a good season. Dude, I've been looking at this truck camera have you. 01:04:58 Speaker 6: It's pretty good, pretty good stuff. 01:05:01 Speaker 3: But as soon as you get back from South Dakota, he's gonna be like, hey, can y' all mind if I take a day and go. 01:05:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, big takeaways, yeah. 01:05:13 Speaker 5: Big takeaways. I would Uh, I would definitely like to go back and hunt deer again. 01:05:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:05:19 Speaker 5: I think we figured a lot of stuff out and uh, man, if if I spent a week in the spot, we ended up in I think I could kill a big one in there. 01:05:30 Speaker 2: Nice Michael. 01:05:32 Speaker 4: I say this pretty much every time I'm on this podcast, But eliminade ground. Don't choose ground, elimonade ground, because we if we would have just tried to make every single place work, it would have we would have never found where we ended up. So just keep moving until you find. 01:05:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, where for sure? 01:05:50 Speaker 4: They like we got to this place and there was so much sign we couldn't we couldn't deny it, like it was like they're in here, we just got. 01:05:56 Speaker 1: To find them. 01:05:57 Speaker 2: It's good. I like it. It's a good point, man. 01:05:59 Speaker 4: I f Also, if you're out West, I think me and Greg were used to white tails, so we kind of don't use our buyos as much. Like, just keep your eyes in the buy nos as long as you can. It might suck, it might hurt, but just keep classing, keep classing. 01:06:16 Speaker 2: I don't like that one as much. Hey, I'm telling you you're probably not wrong. Just I already have a headache. Cry now I can't. 01:06:23 Speaker 1: It's Cam Haynes saying, though, isn't it. 01:06:25 Speaker 5: Keep classing, keep glassing? 01:06:27 Speaker 6: Yeah you can't. You can't steal that. 01:06:30 Speaker 5: Too bad? 01:06:31 Speaker 3: Sorry, Cam, keep looking, keep looking, continue glass, keep shoveling or something that's it. 01:06:39 Speaker 2: Struggle keep salling, I think. Uh. Anyways, good hunt, guys. I'm excited to do it again. 01:06:46 Speaker 3: It's gonna be only element channel sometime soon. Uh maybe sooner rather than later, depends on how much editing time we get done. 01:06:52 Speaker 1: This week. 01:06:53 Speaker 3: We're gonna have some windshield time and uh be able to do some stuff, maybe get on all kinds of antler cripps out in Exco again. 01:07:00 Speaker 2: So I'm excited to all join forces and kind of have a repeat. 01:07:04 Speaker 3: Of airs I don't know, like we did last year, except less monsoons and more antlers on the animals. 01:07:09 Speaker 5: That sound good, sounds 01:07:10 Speaker 3: Good, awesome, Well, congrats, Remember guys, keep glassing and remember this is your element