00:00:08 Speaker 1: This is me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely bug bitten in my case, underwear listening Hunt podcast, you can't predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators are the most comprehensive digital mapping system for hunters. Download the Hunt app from the iTunes or Google play store. Nor where you stand with on X okay, cal go on okay? First off, people, what you're you're saying really boring stuff about about beer? Yeah, I mean it's it's it's this is a road well traveled here. We're not not cutting a new trail. We're talking about how that you know, the perception is an I P A I must take a lot of time because of the complex flavors and how powerful the beer seems. But in reality, like a pilsner is so highly refined, it takes a lot more time to produce than than an I P A uh. And you know, like your German beer circles there's you get get a lot more respect for producing some highly refined pilsner. So it takes more skill to make miller light than in a triple I p A whoa whoa Your cores lights just a piggyback on on top of that. Pilsner's are are laggers, so they're cold. They're cold fermented, so it takes more time for the yeast. But that's part of why it takes so long. It's the east. I would rather hear people don't even need fire. I would rather hear people say UM. I'd rather go around the room and have everybody say, like when I cut my tone nails, I like to do, and have them go through the order that they do their tonnails, and then the next person says, well, I like it to do the same way where I started on the left and go It's like, I just what brought this up? Is um? Kind of the drink I'm having. My wife drinks a shipload of Chilada's, which is it's it's beer and comado juice. Yeah, anything, And we were um. Her her birthday happened that long ago, but I had to go away on her birthday early in the morning, and so we have been turkey hunting, and I arranged it when we got back from camping. Turkey hunting on the doorstep would be like a care package of things that I know she likes. And one of the things I know she likes is Budweise or Chelata or so I thought. So you home and they're like, there's like flowers, fancy chocolates, in a six pack of Budge, a lot of Tall Boys. So the next day, on her actual birthday, I totally forgot about her birthday and called her wants to complain to her about something that I thought she did and didn't do. Um, And she's nice. And I called back a minute later and she's like, oh, he must have remembered that it's my birthday, but instead I was calling her to tell her a different thing I need wanted her to do, at which point she got real uh mad that I had again forgotten all about her birthday. And I pointed out that I hadn't. I had just celebrated it the day before and reminded her about the Budge lattas, and she pointed out that she drinks bud Light cheladas, so it didn't even really count. Fail. So now I went home and found it in the fridge. It's the tall Boy bud and um, now I'm having it strength m'd rather enjoy it. Um of you guys heard this. This is interesting to talk about for a second. Here, they really I don't know anybody did this. They redid Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd. Are you wearing this? It's kind of all over the news. But they made a conscious decision that Elmer Fudd has no gun, so he still has dynamite. He still has like like Hi, he still has high intensity explosives. They're also going to allow him to hunt bugs Bunny with a with a side yea, as if that's like Elmer Fudd now to a side, he's he's been disarmed and like the creators of his cartoon Shore basically no, we're not doing guns. He still orders stuff like they're still doing the acne products. But man, a couple of things is all the best jokes were about the guns, like your barrel getting tied and n that's that. That joke never gets old. And then when he's down in the Appalachia they have like the blunderbusses and people put their fingers and then the barrel and all that. It's all it takes what's interested the thing. The first thing I thought about it. I don't know if anyways made this connection is there's a term like if you're a dude who just thinks about guns through the lens of hunting. You're like you you you run the risk of being called a fund, meaning you're not like supportive enough of gun rights because you just like hunting guns, and it's bad to be a fund. And here it's like it's almost like, uh, what happened to Elmer Fudd is what they say, what happened to all funds? You'll get like disarmed. So now here the poster boy for being a fund has been disarmed. On the Bucks Bunny Show, it feels to me like a you know, like it's all coming true. Feeling circumspect man. A guy wrote in he got a guy rolled into got fish cuffed, which is interesting. He was, he's a long haul trucker and he carries a tackle box rounding his stuff because he likes to stop fishing us in the Dakotas. And he goes in his tackle box to get out of a rappola and he's like, it's like real, he says. He describes it as a beautiful COVID nineteen evening, meaning apparently that no one's anywhere around, trips and falls and snags both his thumbs on the rappola, but his phones in his back pocket and there's his hands are so snagged he can't even get him out of his back pocket, and he's like bleeding all over the place and tried to and he's he's trying to wave people down. He needs to raise both of his bloody hands. So he's to raise both his bloody hands in the air to try to get help, which he says wasn't working, and eventually finds his way down to a bar, and everybody was so excited about their bar being back opened again that he was able to get himself taken care of. In North Dakota. UM, Cal's got big news. Go ahead, Cal, where do you want me to start? Like your this is your this is your um you know, it's like your your thing, the passage of the Oh okay, what news are you going to share with me on some hot dates? Oh yeah, I'm sorry. That Great American Outdoors Act. What do you where? Which one you want to start with? Uh? We can start with Great American Outdoors Act. That's a that's a great one. So you know, we've been harping on this for a long time because it's UM contains it's a big package that has a ton of bipartisan support and it. But even even though that existed, we still needed uh it to be introduced for consideration. Basically, word came down that uh, Mitch McConnell was gonna, you know, actually introduced the Great American Outdoors Act. We all got super excited, um, and there was this little bit of uncertainty that if it hit the floor because there was so much support um, that the little bit of dissenting voice out there, they're only opportunity to stop this public lands. Uh, this is very beneficial to people who like to be outside public lands, beneficial package. The only way to stop it would be to filibuster. So the package gets introduced and somebody has said, yeah, you want to debate this, and during that debate situation is when somebody could stand up and be like, yeah, hey, I got something I want to talk about, and just go until you can you can never get a vote red um. But what happened instead was they immediately moved um to go go directly to a vote. Uh. Instead, it's called clot tour cloth tour um. That sounds like a kind of yeah yeah, drinking a cloth tour um. Uh. And so you you everybody, and there's a big, very supportive vote seventeen. I think that said yes, let's move this thing on. So now it's done or it's not done. Sometimes have a hard time with news stories because I think that they're done, but they're not done. Yeah, well that's I did this post on Instagram that was like, hey, go check this out because I want you to be involved, and everybody's like, yeah, we won. Well until the second I thought we had one yes, So all right, Uh, well the House has passed it, right, No, no, no, they voted the results. They just voted to vote yes to to skip the debate portion. It's gonna come back out, um early next week for the actual vote. So it's still very much a you know, stay on your elected officials. Um, this is by the time you're hearing this, it's all history. Do you think the uh, the overwhelming majority to vote to vote is a good sign? Yes, I would take it as a good sign because it eliminates one of the threats, um, which would be just the thing being filibuster, and for the sake of moving on with everything else that's going on in the country, we just gotta blow pass this good thing, which happens. Um. So yeah, it's it's a good thing. It's it's very much progress right now. There's a bunch of uh Republicans and Democrats that have basically said, yes, we want to see movement on this thing, um, and that right there was an opportunity to stall it and open it up. So there's only seventeen dissenting voices, and um, of those seventeen, you know, there's folks that are you know, adamantly against any sort of support for public lands, uh, you know, kind of anti any Yeah, so really might be like Utah's no, no, and he's one of the folks that has been Yeah, he'll let you know that he doesn't like it. But did did people not like it from both spectrums? It was all the dislike coming from one direction. Oh, most of the dislike is coming from one direction. Um. And because there's there's no like list of the seventeen that I've been able to find, it should be available right well, because it's not. Yeah, but yeah, if you know you have founded or whatever the hell? Yeah, so um, but um Ted Cruz Red, who's you didn't like it? He don't look like he don't strike me as real outdoors And to be honest with you, he doesn't see the sun a lot. We can tell that. Um. You know, his famous quote is Texas has two percent public lands and that's two too much. M hmm. So he's he's not going to be voting on behalf of public lands. When the kids go out on their little scooters or whatever, where do they wind up? Umm? Well, I mean that's the hard part about doing this conservation work and working with people that don't want to. They still they can fight against all this public work stuff. I mean as like vehemently and ardently and just rally hard against it. But at the end of the day, they still got to go out and use it. They still got to go take it. There's probably people that are so um peer so pure that they would be like, I don't like it and I won't even go on it. Yes, for sure that exists. Oh yeah yeah. Um so so what happens now? Now it goes to the house. Yeah and it Uh they should wrap this thing up on Tuesday or Wednesday is the word on this on the hill, and then there will never be another problem. This is it, because then they don't have to go to the Senate. This is you, guys, This is the preliminary vote. No, this is not the preliminary vote. This was we're bringing this thing out onto the floor for debate. We voted to say we are not going to have a debate. We want to go to a vote. They're like, great, we're gonna bring this bag out next week and we're gonna vote, so everybody can study up on this. This is the house. Do you think that then it's going to go to the Senate? Yes, I'm right. Oh yeah, he did say this American outdoors cloture vote. I didn't notice that tour, I think is what. Yeah, we get it all from the French that they were voting to debate it. Yes, but when they vote for real, it might be unanimous. It could very well be unanimous. It could very well, um be some a little bit of political games of Um, I'm gonna be a nice person and push it this way so everybody knows, but then I might dinghy in the back when we go to the actual vote. Um, you know, there's there's a lot of stuff that that's still up in the air, so um yeah, I mean it's it's another deal. Like we had an incredible amount of out pouring from uh you know, people that listen to the to the show and listen to the weekend review um and follow everybody's social channels. I was talking about the Great American Outdoors Act. Incredible amount of people wrote in and said, you know, I have never ever done this before, but I actually got ahold of my senator. You want something interesting, Yanni called his tell me. I called the representative Gene Forte. Yep. Left in a message at his Washington, d C. Office because the weekend it was Saturday, so it's got a voicemail or not a voicemail. I left a voicemail on a machine. He's like, yeah, what's up. I lived just down the street from you, Bozeman, Montana. All I gave him was my name in the city that I lived in. And then on Monday, I received an email from his office saying thanks for reaching out. That's customer service. I don't know, I don't know what what you want to call it. That's next level customer service today. Actually we're able to find you on his email and email him yes, are you not getting already? Previously had John record, Yeah, yeah, that's a solid CRM. But even then even then I was impressed. Man, Yeah, I like when little things make you feel proud of, like our system. When I took someone a small claims court, I walked away field. I was patriotic for months after that. What happened when I had a dispute with the landlord and uh, the house I was rent and burnt down, and I thought, since it burnt down, I feel like it was my fault. Someone else they knew what caused it. The house burned down. I was like, I feel like I should get like my brant back because I didn't burn it down. But now I can't go into it because it's burnt down. And they're basically like no, And that was really getting on my nerves and eventually got him a small claims court and the judge spent the whole time yelling at him. And you just sat there. I just sat there, and the judge is like, you've got no problem. The checks come rolling in and you just cash him, and then there's a problem, and then dude, dude do and just I don't started to feel bad for the person. Judge so irritated, but he proraded the month or whatever. Judge like, give us money. Yeah, The judge like all they do is yell at the person of America. They're kind of the judge like moment, what what you have? Nothing? That's like, what are you talking about? Yeah? That's great. Yeah, so I guess let's let's recap here Senate voting. It's not clothe Tour. No too Cloe Tour all right now, if there's gonna be a vote next week, that is a vote vote like yeas nays to move this bill on that. You know. The final step is the executive branch, right, this bill has gotta hit Trump's desk and he's got to sign it. Yeah, he'll sign it. Yeah, I mean he he's voiced public support for this already and he'd be over ridden anyway. It's it's very um you know, this is something everybody wants right now. So it's coming out of his and it's got big support from the Interior Department anyway. So good, Okay, Now tell us about the next thing. Cal or do we want to take a break and talk about the song about Yanni? Too much news? Is it too much news? In a row of cal goes into more news. I like the idea of breaking it depends. Is it an uplifting story like the one that He ended with, last time we were all together, it's up. Yeah, I'd say it's uplifting. You want to do the land access, That's what I want to talk about. Now, let's break it up and talk about because we gotta talk about another song later. So I feel like rather than talking about two songs later, which I thought would be a good idea a minute ago, and I want to talk about one song now where Yanni I wrote it. I started trying to work on a song about Yanni set to um the ballot of Davy Crockett and someone found where someone did it better on what's that on? Fill? Can you play it for us real quick? They didn't strum along or anything. The lab Vian eagle has a keen game. He wears a power ring. It makes him extra slide his trek and polls known from making big bears cry. If you hear blouch, kiss your ass good bye, Yanni, Yanni Chumani, he's one hell of a god. It's really nice, man, I mean, just really about it just came right together, Yanni him. The way the song came about as we were in oblivion with the Chimani tribe and I was going to write a song about if Yanni decided never to go home. Yeah, but I think that was spurred on by because you were having a lot of thoughts and visions, like you like to play a sort of like what if game with yourself movies, and it involved like, you know, if something were happened to my wife and my family and I had to restart again be down here because a lot of what we saw they don't No, there's nothing wrong with it, but they don't keep up their homesteads of their village is the same way that we do here in the States a lot. And I really wanted to clean everything up. You really want to like spruce it up. So you had you had these visions and organized grand visions of you know, giant village is all nice and tidy, lawnmow, fishing equipment organized, and um, I don't know, I guess from there when you realized that wasn't gonna really happen, then you you spawned that into this song. Yeah, it was all about Yanni. But and that's what we came up with Yanni. The best part of that trip, I don't want to name who it was. One of the guys we worked with had just had to had just had to call it off with a girlfriend. Do you think we're okay to talk about this? Oh? Yeah, he had had to. We're gonna do then we got we got some introls we gotta do. He had had to call it off with a girlfriend because it's like weird, it's a weird reason I had to call it off of someone. He's one of our guys was dating a girl who had a cat, a house cat, and she would talk to him as though speaking through the cat in a baby voice, in a cat baby voice, a cat baby voice. This is someone whose name is familiar to everyone, right, Well, I'm gonna give him a different name right now. Let's say his name is Dave. So if Dave was laying there and the cat was there, she would be across the room and she'd be like, Dave, I'm here to be bad, okay. And he couldn't handle it, um and he had to call it off. So what happened though? While we're down there that Chimani were explaining to us that there's a woman that will go into the river. It's a it's a demon like like like an extra what's the word I'm looking for? Like spirit? A spirit, a spirit that goes into the river, the evil spirit. A beautiful woman, a beautiful nude woman. We'll going to the river and pretend to drown, and she'll seduce men to come out to save her, and then she'll grab them and pull them. Sirens like a mermaid siren tank. Yeah. So somehow Phil's story about the cat and this woman got uh conflated to it became that there is a woman in the river who goes You gotta redo it now with Daves. I thought it was Dave. We reimagined it. We reimagined it where these two things got conflated to where there was a siren who would go into the river and be Dave, come safe. My fool is always and I believe the one night that we we we fished that hole until dark and then some of that your minds hung back and maybe even fished into the darkness. And when they came back, some of them were claiming that they had heard Yeah, yeah, boy, it's just the one that they were. Um, let's do introductions. I failed to do that. Then we're coming back to you, cal Kevin, Yeah, um. Kevin Wilkerson, marketing director at Weatherby, do you mind recapping for people super quick about your thumb, quick story all the time. This is the main thing we talked. We talked about it today at the rain and I was like, I can't believe he brought it back up. It's the main thing we talked about, told at least a dozen people anytime. The first time we heard it was in my place for dinner was and sex time I heard it was better the second time. The first time I heard it the first time we were remember when we were witnessed to a mild catastrophe at sheep shape show, almost witness to a mile catastrophe a sheep show. It was a catastrophe that I almost witnessed that inspired you to tell the story about your thumb. I guess that's true. Yeah, And then I guess when you we were in a little putting now I asked you about it again. Oh, you asked me about it again. So yeah, the first time I heard it, it's it's actually caused productivity issues for us. We talked about I'm glad. I'm blad people think it's a good story. It's I don't know if I believe it it's And that's why I'm not going to recap it because it's a very unbelievable story, and I think a recap would do it no justice. And we're gonna share this story with our listeners. We gotta get the whole kit and caboodle. I'll do a quick do you mind, You can tell it another time. You don't need to tell it right now, but I'll tell the short version unless it doesn't makes you uncomfortable. No, oh, heck no, I don't care. Cut off his thumb right at the knuckle. At the knuckle and gecko like he regenerated his thumb to a point. Yes, and it doesn't feel quite right, but it's definitely there. But if you look at his two thumbs, I don't around the table. I don't think that anyone here you heard your story, bro, Actually one of the few people who haven't. The right thumb is regrown. The left thumb sh things your regular thumb. This is the look. They're definitely different. They are thumb nails substantial. The nail is like double times is thick. It's definitely a different. I feel like I've been set up and you gotta look close. It doesn't have a doesn't have the same. What I did too, is I gave it a couple of patient he is it bigger than the others. Yeah, it's way bigger. Yeah. I actually palm a basketball with my right hand and I can't palm a basketball in my left and and it's all because of the thumb being a little bit longer. Like the Bionic film, I got to hear the detailed version. It's it's a grinder. I mean, it was a very it was a gruesome accident. I think we'll have you on, and i'd like you when you when you come on, I want to tell the full thumb story and then tell the the full story about the sign you found in the last year. Okay, but I also want to know what about the drumstick in the eyeballs. I like that story, and I like the stuff about catching the wild drum stick in the eyeballs. Rugged, Wow, you got some good ones. Sign the sign he found in Alaska, amazing story. Actually told that story, like last week, somebody asked me about it because they were at the house. They said, hey, what's that sign? I said, Oh, it's one of my best stories. Like chair, it's gonna take a while. If you recorded on the podcast here next time, then you can just yeh, it's episode. I'm gonna call that episode Kelvin Wilkerson's Greatest Hits. Yeah, that's all injury lady, except for the sign. Anyways. That's me glad to be here. Oh did you say what you do though? Oh? Yeah, I'm a director of marketing and customer service. Whether we sharedan wyoming guy, Luke Luke Torkelson, I'm the vice president of Sales, Marketing and Productive Element at Weatherby, and my thumbs have not regenerated. You just got thumbs you're born with. The regular old thumbs are kind of boring. Well, Um, Brodies here, phil We already here from Philip Brody. Me and Brody just turned in uh for a group project. Mostly turned in our Wilderness Skills and Survival Book, which early estimates are that it will be about six hundred could around six hundred pages, last one you'll ever need. That sounds like a lot of value. But they're not gonna make you split it into two like they did the Complete Guy Hunting. That's a good story. People knows when we did the when we did the Ore I'm stumbling here. When we did our Complete Guide to Hunting, Butchering and Cooking Wild Game. That was intended to not be volume one and two. It was intending to be one big book. But that was a large format color book with the Brazilian photographs in it. So the publisher was like, you can't. We're not gonna make a seven page book, like they just don't do that, especially color and big. And she's like, either gotta like, we gotta figure it out, so either throw half of it in the carbage or make it too And that's how that came to be too. I'm not glad. Yeah, but this one, there's no splitting up. Yeah, you'd have to do like nine books, nine small books, so giant book. Uh, illustrations, beautiful illustrations, the same illustrator if you look at the complete guy. Did he do illustrations in the cookbook? I don't believe we had any illustrations in the cookbooks? Yeah, but he did do this ill straighter did do Yanni's special bandana series. That's rights how a go to do your bandana? Speaking of Yanni, He's got a couple of choice stories and Janni. Yanni's contributions in the book are so good we call him Jannis. People are sidebars. It's it's it under sells, It under sells these callis Yanni's inputs. Yanni on avalanche, Janni on spike camps, Yanni on all manner things in more, Yanni on the bears on pepper spray pistol debate. It's a good one, which he points out that one time he had his pistol and his pepper spraying. A bear came at him and he grabbed his treking pole. So when the rubber meets the road, I don't know, but in theory, here's what I was going for. But I had a really nice compliment about that book, and so directed at you guys, was that the book was very entertaining to read and story like, but was equally balanced with like good skills and education. Yeah it's a good como. Yeah, I mean stories like you were telling helped out with that bars get yours, Um, it'll be coming out. It'll be a while, but you know what you want to hear some hard salesmanship when that book comes. I'm talking to you people out there, when that book comes out, make no bones about it. I'm gonna come and like prepare, start saving your money and stuff like that, because when that book comes out. Um, we got screwed out of the best seller list with our fish and Game cookbook. I was so excited just for personal reasons and also just for general reasons to have it be then on the New York Times best seller list was a fishing game cookbook. I could go into a long story, but why we sold plenty of books to make the list, but the way they count, they were all quick less not publishing. Here, We're getting way off track. That's what people need to know this. So when you look at something in the New York Times best seller they don't they want to see it sold from a variety of sources. Because there's a thing where people can buy their own book onto the best seller list and now and then the book will make the best seller list and it gets accused of bulk accounts. So because if the if the if the weather is right, you could have a nonfiction book come out and sell like you know, four or five thousand copies and hit the best seller list in certain categories. So people with means have at times orchestrated their own best sellers where they just they had moneies on an object for them and they've they've gamed it. So what the Times likes to see is they like to see it's sold uh, all around the country from a variety of sources. Then what they like to see is they actually they actually do it. So at certain independent bookstores are two x when they when they run their formula. We sold all the books that were in print, We sold before the book came out, all through Amazon. So by the time the book came out, it was already it was already back ordered thousands of copies, and we had sold enough through pre orders to hit the best seller lists. In fact, we know the exact numbers of what the best seller because our publisher had a bunch of them. We know we sold more copies than books that beat us on the best seller list, but it didn't count because they had all been single source pre orders through Amazon, so the numbers were not accepted. So this time, man, we're talking about it pretty early. What is it June? We're talking about something's gonna happen in like November, December. But get ready, yeah, start asking your local books store now, plan on not getting it through Amazon? Is that what we need to tell them? Just they just need to buy it all over like you gotta buy it from a lot of places, multiple copies all up weather be asking if you got saying Amazon if you have, but if you have the option of buying it at a bookstore, do that. No, We're we're gonna we got it all. The problem is that that the enthusiasm for the book. Do you remember we did an episode of the podcast called Begging and Pleading. It was like, basically, we just told everyone's in the book. I think that to walk through this new book's gonna take it's gonna be begging and pleading part to A and B. Yep, you see what I'm saying. And we're gonna spend two episodes walking through the book. Everybody's got a order of the book, Just prepare yourself. I don't think it's going to be expensive per page. It's gonna be like barely that much money per page. You're right, But I tell you what, this is gonna be an expensive podcast the viewers because of all this stuff they gotta do. Yeah, yeah, we're not done. We're not done. You're not done selling, not even close. Okay, So we gotta move on towards sales park. We gotta introduced Adam. That was his three oh seven hat area code. Yep, okay, not four our six, not two oh six, and not nine oh seven three O seven, one of those one of the small handful of single area code states. For residents of that state tattoo that area code onto their arm, and then I wonder what happens when they split the area code or where a hat we had Actually that's for people who aren't very committed. We did a serial number of a gun and auctioned it off for I don't know what, fifteen grand or some fourteen or fourteen or fifteen thousand bucks because it was serio number three oh seven w y zero zero zero three zero seven fifteen grand for it. Really, there was a large subculture of people that are obsessed with that. Yeah, in Alaska, everybody gets nine oh seven tattoos and whatnot. But I feel that at some point they're gonna split the area codes. When I was a little boy, my area code was six six. Now it's to three one of what do I do with my tattoo? Then I'd have to change it into like the mark of the Beast. Six. Not gonna do that. No, I don't know. You're just stuck with the side. So be forewarned. Well, when people see that, they're just like, oh, he's o G. Or you put a little number next to it and say see footnotes and you can start tattooed footnote. So, Cal, the Land Access Initiative, you just came back from a location. I don't know if you can tell people what the location is or not. Yeah, I just came back from kind of a secret mission to Maine and UH I was working with some nonprofits. UM, so you know, it's essential travel for the good people. It's work related. It's got to be good. It's work related and essential for the people. So quick recap, big thank you to everybody who's purchased ronella who tell us campaign merch Ronella patels. Like we said, the proceeds from all of those sales are going to more hunting and fishing somehow, someway, We're gonna find access projects that provide more. That's the baseline. UH. And we reviewed an incredible amount of submissions over the last few months and started reaching out and and talking to individual UH project owners across the US real quick. With that process looked like for you, Cal, like what you asked of folks. Yeah, so there's a big questionnaire and then there are follow up questions, but uh, you know, essentially it was you know, how familiar you are with the project, what it provides, like, is it access to a landlocked chunk of ground as it accessed water? Doesn't provide opportunities for hunting and fishing both? What else can you do out there? What's the habitat like? Is this a habitat improvement project? Um? And really, you know, trying to whittle down to because the hard part with this stuff is you are never ever going to talk to somebody who's like, yeah, it's not that great of a place, but I just thought i'd throw it in there. You know, everybody is very attached to their project, their piece of ground. Uh, and they're and they're very passionate about it. Let me take this back one quick, one step even further back that what we're doing is we're maybe you just just said this not just being stupid, didn't catch it, but we're trying to we're raising money through Ronella who tells trying to do to try to do some to try to do land acquisition. Yes, and so cal was um soliciting input where people who are the eyes and ears on the landscape, people who would say, oh, you know, it would be a sweet property if we could get into the public domain. Yes, it was. Sorry, no, that's great. I mean, um, the you know, I'll tell you right now. And if this is you please right in call um like the pie in this guy idea. Is someone out there listening is going to be like, oh, well grandma, granddad there they'd be totally happy to shave off a long strip that connects to that huge chunk of national forest that nobody can get to or BLM or something like that. And and through a phone call and cutting a check And wouldn't that be a sweet river access on a chunk of river lake where no one can get into it? Yeah? And uh, you know, we just make a permanent easement for to get to get to the public to go down there and enjoy um. And then there's a huge variety of of projects that that came in that were more complex the you know, we ended up with folks that like, actually we're serious, filled out everything, uh the way you're supposed to and had an actual spot um that wasn't a mix of vague details, um two to sixty four full submissions. Yeah. Yeah, and and you know like I said, these were the people that were serious enough to be putting in some thoughts and then got those uh down quite a bit, um to to something man gible. And now you're out doing some Now you're out hitting the ground to try to get the smell of the place. Ye and me a beautiful photo of a waterfall. Yeah, and he found some moose and deer tracks. Yeah. And this place is is pretty unique because it's a body of water. Um. That is, the property is contiguous and and in the heart of this continuous property is a small lake, a pond um. And uh, it's it's really cool. Uh. You know our editor in chief, Anthony Locatta, Uh, he worked for a very long time at Field and Stream. Before that publication was called Field and Stream, it was called Forest and Stream was the predecessor to Field and Stream. And this body of water, uh was actually adver tized as a place for folks to get out of the city and come up and fish in. Yeah, yeah, they so are you Is it secret or not secret? I don't want to say that the actual township. Yeah, but this is this should give plenty of idea, right like right now, it's it's de facto public access it's in it's in Maine, but it is private property. And what a lot of folks don't realize about Maine is there is a ton of access in the state, but it is primarily private ground that just isn't posted. Don't you. I don't want to get out ahead of ourselves here, but we're gonna make a pledge to personally not ever go there to fish or anything. Listen to this, because I don't want anyone to think that it was that it was aish Judy Fisher Hill. Yeah a little bit, you got it. Yeah, he's just like taking it for he's taking it for a test ride, man, and then don't go back. Uh this camp that they had in their effishing their weekend take was five hundred trout damn. Is it a property that connects two more property? Yes, it does. It does more access than just the property. It's it's a multi year thing right now, it does, you know. But like I said, there's with the the convoluted part of this thing is uh there you know, there's groups working on providing permanent access. Right now, there's access to that ground, but it's not permanent. It's permanent in the fact that the landowners that have it now, are its still have the mindset that's been around Maine for a long long time of I'm not using all this ground. I don't need to post it. Folks want to occasionally walk through here to deer hunt or pick mushrooms or whatever, that's fine by me. Hunt grouse. We saw a ton of a ton of grouse, ton of rough grouse. Um. And uh yeah. But the hard part is is as these lands change over right, there used to be like these giant timber company lands up there. There still are some major timber company lands. Um. That's really what people are are doing a lot of hunting and fishing on. But it's private, just like you guys experience here in western Montana. There's kind of this de facto access program wiser lands and yeah, and it's been around for so long people are like, oh, that's just they don't even know what's private property and they think it's us for a service ground or something like that. Um, but it's like it changes hands one more time and that new buyer is like, well, no, no, no, I'm the privacy is what I want. Doesn't matter if I'm only there a weekend or whatever. So it's the goal to get a chunk shaved off that will just allow access to the public ground that's behind it. Uh. The goal right now would be to you, uh, would be to purchase this acreage that includes the pond um that there's a defined easement in place right now, little parking area, um footage, it's right now. It's foot access only into the pond um and it the cool part here is this township has zero public land owned by the township, and this would be the very first chunk of public land. Even though like it's it's fully documented that this township people growing up and living and raising families there. They've they've been utilizing this place, um since you know, well before got a little publicity and forest and stream. But because it toured a new one on traveled, they toured a new one in the raft and they're like, bring more camps. There's a lot relieving out because like a little like details. But uh, where we might land is this. So we got some money in the in the in the campaign confers. Um. But the election happens in November, right, so we'll take office. It's like the campaign will be going anymore. Um, we'll have a new Secretary of egg dug during we got our whole cabinet, a T F Ronnie Bam, Pat Durk and Secretary of the Navy. We got the whole cabinet filled out. But in the meantime, as long as you buy Ronald Patels better hunting and Fishing for America stuff, it goes into the our kiddy of money. When our kiddy of money is right and we identify our place, there might be a discrepancy, right, And when we identify what exactly that discrepancy is, there's gonna be a mad dash for to to find ways to get the support we need to push it across the finish line in a hurry. But don't dig into your book buying money. You gotta have a severate pile of money. We're gonna you're gonna have to. You got a many piggy jars here, um uh, your piggy banks rather the The other thing to keep in mind is, just like I said, you're never gonna go out be invited out to check out something that people don't care very passionately about. They all have an incredible amount of value um and I I do not want people to think like this is a one and done thing like, Um, this is uh the something the Cabinet's gonna push very strong for for multiple years, UM and hope that we can have just a long lasting program funded permanently fund exactly just like l WCF. Yeah, so the cow and Cal's work on this, he's expanded or this isn't This isn't a one off. This is not a one off. So Cal's gonna become like Ted Turner ranches and stuff all over the place, the inverse of like, yeah, I know about ranches all over the place, but yeah, so this this is a cool project. Uh. Found some moose tracks, found some deer tracks. Uh, there's a loon that comes in there every night. Um, catch any fish? One mallard in there? I uh my longlined released some some very small brick trout um and then uh what the heck else to really found two really cool frogs. Um still did a little uh chewing on some different plants species. Uh you go swimming? Is it a good swim pond? Yeah, it would be if it's deep. So I wasn't jumped in the water here in June. Yeah, yeah, you thought it would be chill? Yeah, where the Skeeter's bad I have a mosquito bite or like right in the very top of the gluteo crease that happens to be since I know, so when you scratch that, people think like you're not clean. Well yeah, and on top of that, like because I don't don't have a lot of meat on my butt, my pants like to ride right about there. It's just it's highly irritating. So as if we didn't want to shake hands for COVID, now we don't want to shake hand for exactly exactly. So that'sdemic. There's a huge project in Wyoming that's that's very cool. Um, that's that's being worked on by Shoutout three or seven. Yeah. Um. And there's a great project here in Montana that I'm actually, um, gonna have a phone call on here this evening too. So you haven't made the call yet, but you flew out there just to kind of feel it out right, Yeah. Yeah. Pavement for Yeah, the pavement for Access man. Yeah, and then there's so much more to go like this. Yeah. Like I said, we're gonna we're gonna be beaten on this stuff for a long time because um, you know, it's now or never for all of this stuff. I'd like to buy a whole state. Would because the whole state when you go to the meteor dot com to buy some Ronella Patelis merchandise, don't limit yourself or don't think that you're gonna limit yourself to a T shirt. There's hats, there's brown ones, there's Blaze orange ones, hunters orange for hunting season, sticks, bumper stickers. I think there's a small oval stick or two. There's a reusable cloth bag if you don't like to use the old plastic bags the grocery store. What else? Yard signs? Do they sell? Those? Really? Do we have? Yard signs? Might be coming? It was a salesman for a while Tarming and Sports. I can tell um he was a salesman and then he was the song and we just played it is actually called long tang Yanni, isn't it? Because he was a grill man that uh, don't tell me, Joannie. He's a grill man at Tuscaninis. Good work. And he was a salesman at Tarming Sports and he led in did you leading sales? Yeah no, no, that wasn't definitely not No. We don't keep track. What's going on? Tell us what's going on the weather. Be you guys are all getting all cozy in your new headquarters. Yeah, no doubt about that. We are. We're actually actually shut down. Did you get shut down because of No, it's it's the three or seven. We do what we want. Um, they still respect liberty down there. Yeah. Yeah, my wife heads up HR so that's helpful too. But no, we got a direct line. No, we had. You know, we didn't shut down, but you know, we had. We got a big factory. Were all able to kind of social distance keep our things going. We got a lot of room in there. Yeah, yeah, we do. I mean it's it's all you gotta depend on a supply chain from around the world coming in and customers to ship too. So every day there for a while it was a little hectic trying to figure out what's going on. But we're all healthy and we're making guns. Did you um, did you guys run into problem uh, problems where components you needed were coming from places that weren't able to produce components. Yeah. The reason to bring this up is that was at sports was warehouse. We're going fishing this week up with the kids. I had to go grab like you know, sinkers, bobbers, bait holder hooks, all that kind of stuff. The tends to get left and all the trees around the intends get left push around um to stripped clean. I mean the store is stripped clean. I'm guessing that's a function of supply chain and demand, you know, to it's it's really both. I mean in firearms right now, obviously everybody's been kind of reading there's crazy things going on. Are are our product line because we're kind of more of a you know, primarily hunting, you know, less self defense and that sort of thing. So we didn't see the spike. Everybody else same with just the sustenance and going out there and harveston mile meat and catch the mole fish and just getting outdoors. Finally too, I think there's a delay on that and people have been a little trapped. And but the supply chain was certainly there. I mean, we have a lot of components. Say go into one rifle and so I mean one spring can hold up a whole rifle from going out the door. But you didn't run into that. We ran into not not bad, We ran into some stuff. We were kind of fortunate and yeah, maybe not even weeks. But we were fortunate. Some of the bumps we had were the things we already had product of, and the things we needed we kind of had, so we're just yeah, I didn't really appreciate the lengths of where that of how that stuff would affect manufacturing. But I was even trying to find a part for jet foot on an outboard engine, and well, I call this guy and he's like, man, you and everybody in the country. I'm like, how many people are actually looking for like an impellers sleep because they're all gone. There's like one guy in California that makes him he can't go into his plant because there are none. If you find one. Let me know. The weird demand and the supply chain stuff, and I mean, it's it's weird. And of course we you know, shipped a gun dealers around the country and everybody with FFLs, and it's like, man, we had a COVID hold list of just different states and different things and who you could chip two and who you couldn't lose. Definitely nuts For a while, some of our distributors had some of their best days in history, like ten of them in a row, and so they're telling us, hey, pause for a minute on some of the hunting stuff because we gotta get nine mill and two to three m O up in. Yeah. Yeah, but that's probably cool. I don't know, maybe that's cool off a little bit. Now we're in riot season. Yeah, I still think it's pretty Yeah, it actually upticked again now with all the violence in the country and stuff, so it's everybody's scared. Yeah, So it's you know, we've seen fear bind over the years, politically driven a lot or unfortunately, say after you know, some sort of tragedy in the country, some guys come out say we're gonna, you know, pull an out more fund on you and you know that sort of thing, and you know, take your guns, and it spikes and for us in our line, like people like, wow, he must be selling a lot of guns right now. We're again we try to make just a good quality product for you to go taking the outdoors. It's not as much that fear buying stuff, but it affects the whole industry. So the demand is different, what dealers stock is different, what they have, what they don't have, where their attention is, so the whole thing kind of affects. It's a kind of a giant you know pool that everything kind of gets mixed up in. But for us, we just like stable, like this is what our customers want, we want to make it, we want to get it to them. So it's a it's a little different rather than the because after a big high, you get a big lower because then you get everything overstocked. Everybody discounts it, rebates it, and so it's a little messy. So we just try to provide more consistency. We were I can't remember who else taking the other day, we were visiting about the the um, either the real or perceived twenty two ammo scare of what the hell here was that? But the thing is like it feeds on itself because I never thought anything about twenty two shells. I mean, I always if I need twos, i'd go and buy like one of those slidey c C I whatever, like, hey, there's twenty two shows. But the minute I heard it was the shortest twenty two shells that walk into a store and I see twenty two shells and I'd buy them all. Or you see, like there's a limit of a limit of one thousand, twenty two shells, and I'd be like well, I'll be damn if I'm not buying a thousand even though I need zero. That's right. And I even saw, like during that shortage, it was that I was in a Cabela's one time. You couldn't buy twenty two am if you didn't get a Cabella's credit card. To get AMMO. You had sign up for a credit card I remember you had. If you you can only get it if you bought a gun. Like I remember I would walk into Best Pro Shop and you could buy a twenty two rifle and you only got the twenty two AMO if you bought that rifle. Little combos like that flying all over the place. And then there's articles being written where people thought that there's all these conspiracy theories, but it was basically in the end, it seems like the main argument is UH, people to manufacture ammunition, tool up to manufacture certain kinds of ammunition, and then they tool up and do other runs, and they were just busy doing not two. It is true making AMMO, you gotta do big, big runs of certain things. There's really long lead times, like making brass you know doesn't happen overnight, and you know, getting powder there can be powder shortages to the different things. So it is true, like you can't just flip a switch, you know, and do that. Like it's months of planning in advance for that. Yeah, so two shells and now uh and masks. Yeah, thing like, because I'm not loading my own AMMO anymore? Can I like collect all my weather be brass and just send it to an address and you guys will take it back and make it into come down with the pocketful will help you out? Or like for Federal ammo, can you have all that brass and just chip it off to Federal just as like a recycling program. What happens if you mail it back to him? Yeah, we actually sell our once fired brass that we use in our testing brass. Yeah, as we go through it, we repackage it into over packaging and we sell it because it's you sell it as brass online. We'll just go, okay, we got a bunch of it from our ranges and then just put it on like a day later. It's just gone going and eat it up. Like is it like a like a mixed platter, like a chef's platter. You don't really just sweep up the floor into a garbage bag instead. They're not making jewelry out of the stuff, so they don't have a spent primer. So you gotta get the primer out on your own and if you want to tumble it, whatever you want to do. The guys that want it, you just count and you sell it. You just sell it as doom people a favorite. It's not like a lot of money. It's better than us just recycling it, because that'd be the next best things. We can't sell it as new ammo if if it's already been shot, because it's you know, the annealing lines is gonna be a little bit different and it's gonna look a little more dull, So we don't it's not worth the time to retumble and reanneal and do all that stuff. So you guys had some really nice brass. Yeah, well thank you, honest nice brass. The how many times can you read the lood a shell? Oh, it's depends on the brass, and it depends on the cartridge. It does, so anywhere give me a more satisfying answer. That's a rabbit hole. Five. Yeah, the comments will fly in. Well I've done don't know. Yeah, I mean there you'll find people that will say they'll only load it three times, and then you'll have people that depending on the load that they make, that they've developed, that they've shot for years, they might load it five times. The risk being that something eventually weakens. Yeah, but you find that in the loading, not in the shooting. So your neck, you know, as you're resizing, it's going to begin to have problems that So. Yeah, so it's not the integrity of it necessarily, you know when you're firing it, but you can tell when it's you know, the neck might start to crack. Um, you know a different things as you're doing it sort of just weaken. Now you generally see it before you pull the trigger. You know it was played out. And uh, but you when you sell ammy, you don't sell one. People aren't into that. What all of our m o's never been fired, I mean on the on the case itself. So and then when we're doing our testing or load development or whatever, we've got to just piles and piles of brass. So we'll just sell that as once fired brass after we shoot it. How many times do you um, does every rifle get shot? Good question, Yes, every rifle actually gets a proof load. Through it. Okay, so not everyone, you know, we still thousands against Um, I'm not personally going down Everybody thinks my grandpa, did I know that I go down there personally shoot a target and send it off to everybody. But um, obviously we we a lot test for accuracy, and do I mean we accuracy test with you know, two underground ranges. You guys have seen it, and we do accuracy testing every single day. Um. So whether that's we got a new barrel, whether that's we got a new cartridge, a different load, a different type of prowder powder, a different lot of you know, certain bullets, a different lot of brass, I mean everything. You a different contour barrel, different type of steel in the barrel, a different type of carbon fiber. But all those things are going to affect the accuracy betting. So all of those things send us down to the range. Every gun, every rifle is actually shot with a proof load, and that proofload is actually loaded hotter, so like it's we actually there. The loads are colored so you know that, um, they're beyond you know usually say a load depending upon the cartridges in the low sixty thousand something p s. I So obviously we're that's what's going on inside the chamber, correct, So you know, we're delivering a product every day to customers that are putting you know, sixty plus ps I within inches somebody's face. That's what's your tire on your truck. So it's like it's obviously something you're not underneath truck. You're putting it foot and a half away from your kid's head, you know. So it's it's crazy stuff. So obviously the development our action is really important there so that we and tell the integrity of it. So every rifle that we produce has a proofload through it and in depending on that load, who makes those proofloads either, it depends, like the Ammo companies actually do so different Ammo companies do. We make some, but then we'll get them, you know, you can buy them through. I mean, you name an Ammo company, you know they're gonna probably have a proofload department. Oh, I don't know about that. I don't think so, I don't know, because what it is is you're giving it. So if it's let's say normally you're sid max p S. I getting technical here. I know you do that on your podcast from time to time. But the Sammy speck kind of the governing regular governing agency. If you would of those safety type of things for firearms, let's say it's sixty that proofload could be eighty five p s I. So if a guy goes in hand loads, not that we've ever had any customers put the wrong powder, say in the cartridge before ever the wildcat. No. No, we have a customer service department for a reason, but for a lot of reasons. But so we actually put that so it's hot in there. So if for some reason all the things went wrong, uh, customer handload, put different pattern, all those things that we know that the structural integrity of that action is going to hold up with a proofload in there. UM. So every rifle has a proofload that goes through it. Uh. And then uh, yeah, we have like a it's a proofload uh fixture trap. So it's not like you're scoping that up and going down to the range because you're not doing anything for accuracy. When you're doing you want to make sure it functions. So we actually have a fixture that we put it in, UM and it goes into that fixture and it's in a room about the size of this podcast room, and uh, there's a there's a blast shield that comes over it. So any and it's triggered remotely if you do have some kind of thing, right, we do value the lives and health of our employees, so so it goes in, so it goes into this trap you know, kind of in the room. So it's just a safety type of thing that happens with it. Um and then the accuracy happens on a frequent basis. But not everyone you know, is shot and that depends we have a range certified type of thing or you know, custom guns are a different story. But yeah, and then so the reason that's great to know, I don't know all that, but the reason was asking is too much info? Do you know? Not at all? But do you then go clean it so someone doesn't buy it and it looks like it's been shot. Do people look and they want to look like I've been shot? Well, there's an actual process and then you know, plus there's a break in procedure that we recommend for our rifles as well, So you know that somebody's gonna do um, you know, upon getting their rifles. So they're gonna you know, get it and do a bunch of break in, So usually you want it to dirty up just a bit. How real is the break in process in your mind? So I feel like it's like a thing that a lot of people just ignore. Yeah, So we actually just did our weather be podcast. We did a full episode on break in because it's one of the most asked questions we get. Meaning they phrase it like, do I really have take the time to do forty rounds of whether be munition down the pipe? Does it help? Does it not? I still can't get to shoot. So we actually, um, we actually just updated our breaking process about a month ago. Our engineers have actually been doing a lot of a lot of testing on that recently to really see and and to be honest, it does help. And it's fling and cleaning. So you have the you know, the rifling process of that barrel. Accuracy is so dependent upon barrel quality inconsistency, and so you have a chunk of steel that you've really put a lot of stress into. So you've drilled it, you've reamed it, you've rifled it, honed it, you know, done all these different things, lapped it to the inside of that barrel, and so a lot of it, you know, as that bullet catches the rifling inside of there and those lands and grooves and as it travels through there. Um. Really what you're doing is is breaking in the inside of that bore um in essence, so that as it goes through there's consistency um as it does that. Obviously, it's not like we send it out with birds. I mean, all those things are checked. But really, when you're firing, you're truly breaking that in I guess you know, but you're you're, in some minor way changing the inside of it until it gets like to a state of bullets going through that thing so fast that it's that it is changing it a little bit at a time. And so when you send three bullets down it, you know are breaking procedures. Three shots clean it, three shots clean it. Which asked me, if I ever do that? Yeah, so that's it's a loaded question. Anyways, it's a loaded question, Tea. You've got a lot of people that won't adhere to it and probably are just fine. And then you've got a lot of people that buy a weather be rifle that's a quality item and they follow the procedure, and that's good. It's good either way. But as we've seen testing in the recent months, uh and as we look at it on data from the engineers. I personally do think it matters. We got graphs and I mean, so we've done all that and it does matter. I have picked vanguards out of a box in a three hundred weather being just gone down to the range and shot subb half minute, you know of angle groups, I mean, just just right out of the box. There's there's so much of a variance to even from barrel to barrel of the same factory, bullet to bullet, and that's what's crazy, and it's hard, and it blows engineers minds a little bit because they don't like it. They like to say, here's a formula and this works. And there are certain things obviously to make an accurate rifle, like inherently accurate. But it's amazing the variation that you will get in anybody's rifles from gun to gun bullet, you know what loads it might like. You might have a you know, a six weather be I have a six factory in a wather the same model, and yours likes a different bullet than mine. It's crazy every time. It is probably because that that barrel is whatever is long, and there's just differences in there. We need to come back to this when we talk about the next thing, because there's a good tie in to the to the next thing and break in and what happens to a group on a personal collaboration type thing that we're gonna cal went out today and uh and shot a group and the first two was was actually we thought the second shot missed the paper, but it was through his first same hole. Yeah, like Robin Hood, dude, he broke it in today and actually shot four and five, he shot five. One and two were in the same one and four and five were in the same hole. Really, how far apart were one in two and four and five? And what happened to three? Well, three was solid question between their less than an inch and a half apart. Three was only from one and two. Three was I would say point six point seven away from one and two. Four and five got a little bit high high or something group, But real quick the breaking period before we leave leave that basically forty rounds at shots at a time, and no, not forty So you said forty I think something said give us the summary. A one is there's a lot of information on weatherby dot com. But um uh you can. We suggest now one box of AMMO. And we did this strategically because it's difficult. We don't want people to have to buy more AMMO than they need to use. Because amo in in today's time, even if you're shooting six five creed more is fairly expensive, even compared to any magnum load you're looking at. AMMO prices have just gone up in general. But um we suggest a one box break in. We wanted to make it less than forty rounds, and with all the testing we've recently done, we felt confident in being able to change that break in period to a one box um and so we suggest doing it with two different loads because as Adam said, it might like a one thirty or it might like a one forty. And if you're gonna shoot it anyways, grain bullet. If you're gonna shoot it anyways and pick the best bullet, you might as well figure out which one it is during break in. It also just helps with the fouling of the barrel. So we suggest a one box break in. It's generally I believe three shots clean, three shots clean, resting in the middle because of the heat of the barrel. You want it to cool um and in the middle of that you'll know a lot about your rifle. By the end of the break in, do you got to clean that rifle or that barrel six or seven times during that session? And when you say clean it, you're talking like, so this is the other side of your conversation, is that that's also very much so up to the shooter. Uh. Some people might use hoppies or hops, whichever way you want to say it, or two brands. I don't understand. It's just number three. So no, is there any arguments you made for the it not not being hoppies? I I just hear I hear different all the time. There's there's a number of board cleaners that work. I think the key is that you get it wet, you clean it, and then you patch it till it's dry. I'll tell you what, I got a bottle of it. Man, It's like it feels like like you could get real high off it. What the sweet seven point six to You got to be careful with that stuff. That stuff is heavy duty. Well it's it's like but it's a it's for getting copper out. I get yeah, and you can get copper. Another subject I bought full on head deal. You know what I'm trying to say, respirator, respirator just for cleaning in general. I got I got for gun cleaning. I got to be like, I don't know, man, you just in there and it's you know, really, Stephen Ronnella, that ain't gonna be what kills you is respirator. He and Brody just got done with the best book ever. He just doesn't want to lose any of that good stuff. Yes, Steven Ronell, that ain't gonna be what kills you. Roannella, Uh, that'll give you a bad headache. That's what I found. I found that I felt that, um it was subtle, but I felt that my when I'm certain solvents, I felt I would I was getting a little like a little buzz. No once by the time I muld have been like to go out and smell my solvents, but not at this At this point in my life, I don't need any I mean, maybe I'll have uch a lot of but I definitely don't need like chemical buzz. Yeah. So, yeah, there's a lot o data in our data. Around round twelve, it was consistently when you would start to see um improved group flattening out? Yeah, no, kidding. Cool. And when you guys are cleaning them, are you cleaning them cleaning them bristles and wire brushes? Yeah, But if it's a protocol, if if you're suggesting something, we don't don't they have a protocol. You were not talking against ms nor engineers. They're down in the basement and they have a very tight protocol. We don't know that protocol. That protocol, Kett saying that phone grew right back, texting just fine over here, does your phone recognize the growing back thumb because it was before it was before the well, I'll tell you, I froze my thumb this winner and and uh my phone wouldn't recognize my frozen thumb. Oh no, sometimes this phone, depending on yeah, depending on certain times. I've once multiple times tried to touch a button, been like, I don't know what if you regenerated thumb. This is the regenerated thumb. Series calls him by a different name, Dave, are we waiting for you to do? I was looking at that. I was looking at that. Go go to weather dot com and check out the barrel break in person. You're also gonna tell about something. So I remember all the piggy banks everybody's got laying around, So you got your piggy bank to buy the book. Yeah, tell the name of the book, Brony the Meat Eater's Guide to Wilderness Skills and Survival. No, you got it wrong. We we we batted around because listen, it was the Metator Fishing Game Cookbook. So we thought there was a minute where we're almost going to change tack and call it meat Eaters the like Meat Eaters Guide to Wilderness Skills and Survival. But then in the end went with the meat Eater Guide to Wilderness Skills and Survival have been apostrophe as or as apostrophe. Good question. You didn't get apostrophe. And my my beloved agent Mark I thought that, um for like when people are searching stuff, He said, you don't. You don't change stuff like that, man like searchability on books, you know, like when people you want everything to be consistent. So that's what it is. It's a sweet cover at all. Anyway, that's only a small portion of your piggy banks and quarters. Yeah, that's a bank. Then you got bank for buying up all Cal's ranch land and ponds and whatnot. That tell us campaign merchandise where your proceeds go to providing more or better hunting and fishing for America, not Cal's private land bank. But it is the man which is deeded, damn. And they're all just like I never read the contract. I don't know. I don't know. Cal just buying all this stuff for himself. And what you're gonna need to go hunt Col's land if he lets you on is our new rifle. That's right now. I could call it the meat Eater weather Be you call the weather Be meat I'll leave that up to you. What we call today when we're filming it is the weather Be Vanguard Meat Eater Special Edition. How about the meat Eaters Special Edition. Whether you're trying to Steve and giant letters and weather vangor we're on top of the world. So the weather Being Vanguard Meat Eater Special Edition rifle, which we I think we recorded a podcast probably March a last year. We start to have a dialogue about it, I think a little bit because I'd be like, you know what you ought to do? Yeah, you've done that a few times now, Steve. We did a little over a year later, and I remember we just sat around and kind of said, hey, what about if we eat? Since we're partners now and you know, uh, you know, doing these things together, let's try to do something that's unique, different in, something that has a lot of features that are important to you guys. And it's coming out later this month, June June. And speaking of can we talk about I was talking? Can we talk about the place I was talking about earlier? Yea, yeah, I mean we're doing Yeah, let's do it in it's actually exclusive, first time anybody's ever heard about it. Yes, yes, this podcast will be the first we find sports and where else. It will be exclusively at Sportsman's Warehouse and weatherby dot com. You can buy it directly from weatherby dot com if you drove here. Here's my here's my my, my promise. Um. I've learned a lot of terms. One of the terms I hate is the term value proposition. Okay, so I'm not going to use that, but that's what you mean, that's what you want to use. Why should you buy this thing? Yeah? Like, here's my like a value proposition. If you were to make a line, a line representing like like, um, quality and a line representing um being like, what's the word I'm looking for, economically responsible, what's a better term for that? This is where those lines like listening to your wife about buying no, like, no thing is gonna do this better than that. That's what I think we tried to do in this rifle. I mean it is another way of saying, is you get a little bang for your buck. Yeah, that's that's yeah, in terms of bang for your buck for like a a thousand dollars. You know, it's not thousand dollars a thousand dollar rifle that's like custom rifle features just cool looking, good shooting, available in multiple cartridges. It's just that you're not gonna like you are, am I allowed to say this kind You're not not gonna do better? That's this kind of stuff. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, yeah, I think it is that it is that value and in that sweet spot less than a thousand I mean will be on the sportsman's warehouse shelf. You know, you can go pick it up. And one of the things I think that's really cool about it is it looks real different. And I think Steve, that's one thing you guys shared with us initially is like, what's something we could do that. When you look at that, you go, that's the weather be meat eat gun that meets something or other. Uh No, but you know that's that meat eater rifle that's there, and that's different. And so we uh, this is our first production rifle that we've ever done with a spiral fluted barrel. We've been fluting barrels probably since the nineties. Uh. Actually having it, which you know aids in heat dissipation, primarily adds a little bit to the rigidity of the barrel, but but really it helps it to cool more because it gives it more surface area. But really we say all that and that's cool, but people buy fluid barrels because they look cool and they look different, and that's the number one reason. And then this one has spiral old flutes which kind of make it even stand out more. And that was something when you guys like, what can we do? We haven't done. You can tell you're walking down Sportsman's warehouse, Wow, that up to that glass case full of pistols and knives, and that you'll be able to tell from a long ways away we gotta meat eater logoed floor plate on it on the bottom, so when it's sitting in the gun rack, you'll be able to see the cool meat Eater logo from behind the pistol counter as well. And those I think will be in the paint job because we did the Seraco with it, tried to match Serco to the metalwork with our don't go light on Seraco because that's like, because there's nothing more depressing. And I've had this hat to me. You buy a new rifle and just watching the thing rost man, like if you go out, you know, and it's one trip to the old fish shack. Yeah, you go to the fish shack and just watch your stuff. Ross is depressing. It's hard and people, it's like at the end of the day when you're back at camp or in your tent or in your like, are you thinking, I really gotta wipe down every piece of that gun that got wet today, Like you're not. And so it is good to have the corrosion resistance of the seracode on there. So the whole action's got tungsten Saraco finish on all metalwork. Right, that's the color of it's dull, which in a lot of circles you think, well, doll is not good. But Chuck Hawks said that, you know, the high polish what do you call high polish? Blue Steve blue blue barrel. He's like, you don't know how many animals lives have been saved by those pretty rifle barrels. Right, so it's nice to have a nice dull Loki. There's no shine gonna be coming off that spiral fluting. What was the Chuck Hawks Uh? What was the Chuck Hawks quote We put into one of the and one of the guide books. It was about twenty two. No, we had too because he had one quote about his um, his his dislike of gun writers. Oh yeah, you know he is a gun right, yeah, but I think you chose to put in Chuck's Hawks Chuck Hawks quote about gun writers. Yeah, that's in there, but also is twenty two his thing about like how much he likes in there anyhow? Um. And then custom pain job on the stock to match that Tungusen serica. We got a really talented paint team and shared in Wyoming, and every stock fampainted. It's got three ways. It's got three way safety explained, like explained you like the three position statemen. Weird. I love it. We're hunting Wyoming last year and you remember talking about that. I think you like it well. I like it because it allows you to open you know, it allows you to open your bolt without need to put the gun on fire. It seems safe, which for I feel for people who just are getting familiar with firearms, it's a nice feature. Is to piggyback on that. I think it's very nice for the mentor who was next to the person who's getting used to firearms to have that visual you know, it's it's just another thing like when you're next to somebody you're spotting, there's that animal on the hillside first and on whatever. Um, it's a very easy visual check to see exactly what's going on and sometimes what the problem is. Safety still on, he's got to go all the way forward. Yeah, that's that's my thing with it is. I think with with someone who, you know, a more experienced shooter, it's never gonna be a bad thing to have it. But a more experienced shooter just like much more aware. You know, you're more aware of muzzle control, right. But when it with people that, um, there's no downside to it. But people who don't have that that level familiarity. I think it's just like another thing, and it reduces the confusion of when you go to open your bolt and then you confuse like do I put it on fire to open the bolt? Is that right? And you know it just lets you do that. So, so our three position safety, all the way back or away from the muzzle is on safe, which you cannot operate the trigger and you cannot lift the bolt. In the middle position, you can open the bolt, but the trigger is defeated. And then a third position or all the way forward towards the muzzle, guns blazing ready to fire. Yeah, straight up in the air is the middle I like, I think it's good? Is it? What are the cons? I don't know other cons. The only potential con is if you're all the way back on safe and you only click forward once trigger doesn't go. But it's also the benefit to the benefit to that is to teach people trigger control, because you see new shooters they'll go from safe to the middle position and then they're getting ready to shoot, they pull it and then they just they wiggle the gun or they jerked so hard and you're like, don't do that. You you would know you wouldn't hit anything with that. So it's a good training tool as well. Yeah, I like it. But I've been talking a lot. I have a ten year old and he likes to know. He's getting real excited about shooting and very infatuated with all kinds of you know, any kind of firearm ballistics conversation. Anyways, he's got a break open four ten is a good training thing and the thing that, like, to Cal's point, but when you look at what you see, I like because I can just look and I know what's going on, right, I know, like open that thing up and it just it just takes it takes my stress away. Sure, now that it's a parallel, but I mean, you know, it's just like when you're with people, I think it's it's something to think about and later when they get super familiar and then then uh, it's not as big of an issue. But at first it's like there's a little bit of a redundancy and safety features that. Another thing to bring up is the threaded barrel. Oh yeah, another major The way I like to pitch this is we've done a lot of the customization for you. Yeah, like there's very strong uh that very strong things on on this, uh, whether be Van Guard, Meata or super addition super that. Uh. You know, we've taken the liberty of of making, um, what would be customization options for you? Uh? And what is the standard package? But you can further customize because it's got a threaded barrel with a cap on it. That's how you'll get it when you buy it. But you can also put a muzzle brake on there if you unthread that cap or uh, if you had it set up, you could put a can on there, a suppressor on there. Um. Yeah, let me tell you what. I just had my double deuice two threaded for a suppressor. Guess what the gunsmith charging me to thread that two for a suppressor? No? Man, it was like I want to say it was three hundred bucks. Yeah, I believe it. You're like, that's an entire New twenty two. Well I just said, like, i'd like to have this done. I didn't get into I didn't like ahead of time. Yeah, well that's what like. Back to that customization and having that on there, and we got that thread cap that's flushed too, So we tried to do it where you can't hardly see where that line is you know it looks clean and then we're actually getting we actually are making muzzle breaks for the meat Eater, for the weather by Vanguard Mediator Special Editions super rifle. Uh, we are making muscle breaks for it. Will be one for the twenty four in barrels, one for twenty six in the tungsten color, in a little package. They'll be at Sportsman's or or on Weathery dot com so you can get one. You can get that. I think what is the retail on that, look sex seventies sixty or seventy bucks for a break. A lot of times you're paying well in access a hundred and tried to keep that down too. So if you know we do have it in sick carts or just some of those, you probably won't need a break forward. Some of them you might want one for depending and the threat. That's the thing I don't understanding about the suppressors is um, oh yeah, it's like a universal thread patterns. Yeah, because the one of the ones I have, uh, you gotta get, you gotta get when you buy your suppress you gotta get a reducer. Yeah. One of you guys explained it simply. Yeah, this mediator rifle is threaded half twenty eight, which is very common. The other common rifle is a five eights twenty four, which on the number three contour barrels is more popular. Larger barrel, it's larger, but if you take a number three all the way down to a half twenty eight, you're removing so much barrel it's unnecessary. So that's probably where you had a well, this thing, my my thing, My suppressor came with a mountain of reducers, and then I was just confused by that whole thing. Yeah. Actually, we just recently standardized to a half eight m on this like kind of this is more of a hunting it's a number two contour, so it's it's not a big old barrel because we wanted the way of the rifle to be. You know, you can go down and because cal you were just shooting. You just shut a couple hundred rounds or something, didn't you out of one and competition or something or yeah? Yeah, and yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, you went to a shooting tournament, Yeah, the sniper challenge. Nope. Uh. You know, you know, learn a lot when you go out there. The shooting competitions I've done up. Like I'm just trying very consciously keep things in a hunting perspective because that's my goal is is to come away with good practical hunting practice. Um, and you know, you're when you're shooting around, uh, these people where this is really some of them it's their job to shoot, and some of them that is that is their sport, is shooting competitions. Um, you're seeing stuff that is not anything that you would see on a mountain anywhere. Yeah. I mean they're twenty pound rifles out there probably. Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot of yeah yeah, Um. And you know, and they're built specifically to shoot targets. It's nice about those things all. Uh, those super heavy rigged up guns. When you touch them off, the thing doesn't even move. Yes, And there's like watching like looking through the scope was like watching TV Man, but you shoot like nothing happens, just everything just stays like perfectly fine through that scope. One of the guys that we were shooting in a group with, he's like, man, you have got to get uh uh uh not a suppressor, the other thing muzzle break. And I was like, man, it's a six and a half creed more. I don't. I don't need a muzzle break, he said, Nope, He's like, the muzzle brake is so you can stay on target. It's a big deal for them and watch your impacts through your scope. Yes, you don't got to shoot at some antelope off the distance, Like did I get it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, which I was like, okay, yes that makes some sense. But um, you know, the whole reason I have never shot with one is because I I don't like dirt and stuff getting in there in the fields and stuff. Uh. We've shied away from filming because you can kind of ring the bell of whoever if someone's you know, lying out next to you. And so I've even had guys get um, semi hostile let shooting at the range. People don't want to be next to the guy with the muzzle break. And then I don't know if it's really yeah, I guess it's It matters like for for filming where you kind of have people who might be off to your side and stuff. It just seemed like it definitely hurts the person next to you more than what it also does though, is it helps if somebody does have a problem with flinching especially if you have a larger you know, caliber or whatever. By having it, if you're wearing hearing protection it sometimes you can get rid of a flinch more if you I think if you give a little too much requal a larger cartridge to be either a newer shooter or maybe a child or something like that, they can develop a flinch because you're like, just suck it up and shoot it, and they can develop some pretty bad flinches. So I think the muzzle breaks sometimes it's helpful to give somebody something that's a little tamer. But the hearing thing is definitely so one thing on the breaking process. So the weather be Van Guard Meat Eater super Special edition, um what it was brand new. We went out to start getting prepared for the sniper challenge and Seth, well Seth Seth shot for me so I could go to Mayne and check out that property on Sunday. Yeah. So he actually shot a hundred and some rounds. I shot a hundred and some round at the challenge. I don't know, probably about we were pretty even, um but he I think Seth said he rang a target at eleven. Yeah. But so during the break in process, I actually broke it. In with the trophy copper, federal trophy copper. I was like, oh, that's uh, you know, a minute group. I was like, that's you know, good group. And then uh proceeded to shoot a bunch of steel and was very impressed. And this was like taking a lot of time to shoot steal um, making sure everything was right. But where were you doing all this out at the you'll see it tomorrow, I think, but out at a friend's range that he let us see and their steel everywhere, people going doing stuff that I didn't get invited. Yeah, all the time man people, Oh yeah, we're all drinking, so I know I wouldn't go. But very impressed with the rifle. And then um, you do finally got her target loads so we didn't have to shoot up all the trophy copper. Um. I felt like the target loads weren't flying quite as good out of the gun, and I cleaned it in between these so kind of had like an almost a new breaking process with the with the target load. Um. And then did you know, shot two hundred plus rounds out of that rifle just at the match. Geez, got it clean the you know, a little due diligence cleaning on it and then shot at today and went back to Trophy Copper. And that three shot group with the Trophy Copper was I think a lot of those twenty pound rifles out of that match you'd be very pleased with. Yeah, it was tight. Yeah, it was about a half inch a little over his group. And the funny thing was though the first one he it'll turn it on top and kind of forgot he'd been shooting. So he goes down to the target today at a hundred yard to them all, dude, you hit dirt like feet above that target. I've been the spotting scope and he just goes through and he's just spinning that turret like a top and then it's sure enough, just drills the balls. Yeah, No, it's a good it's a great rifle. Me. How much they weigh like short action short action six point three eight? Oh, just make that up right now, not super light, not super heavy. Great and the magnum, the magnum will be seven point three eight. What are the there's six cartridges six five creed More six hundred, Weatherby three, Weatherby seven, weather B and seven and a seven milli seven. Yeah, and this something we worked. Yeah, the old thirty old six that make the cut. No, no, no, but we we did talk to you guys. You know, I know that you know, you guys are a big part of that. I just wanted to rub it in and its Sportsman's warehouse a little bit. You know, is because you know they have you know, hundred five stores and know their customers and in their areas and you know know what they like too. So I think between the three, you know, we were able to pick up on those six cartridges. So it gives you a variety stuff short action long. The real quick back to the break is there like an average percentage of reduced recoil and you throw it when you put a brake on. It's no way, it's it's very difficult to measure because it's it's a perception and it's also count related. Wouldn't be that you put it against something that measures force and just do it or not? Let us talk to your engineerings get some pillars. People do, but there's variations on how people you know, even measure that. So well, I know that there's like a significant I mean there's a significant recoil redaction with those. Yeah, I know that different things recoil different way is for sure, like I had a um, what's the queens of the planes rifles? Yet that recoil is tremendous, but spread out over such a long period of time. It's kind of like it's like a five minute long like then a seven millimeter around mags like smack, And it's like the fastest to the jaw man bullet, wait to seventy five shooting a heavier bullet, so it's more of a push against your shoulder. Yeah, it's under the giant like giving you a slow punch. It's very similar to three or weather. Be truthfully, three or weather people think, oh god, it's gonna be horrible. It's it's It doesn't really bother me. I don't like the real poppy jaw busting ones that give you a headache. Yes, and those will more than likely be lighter grain bullets shooting fast because they're snappy, Like what's what's in your opinion, what's the what's the worst free willing around? Oh no, actually and a small gun in a lightweight gun jumped out of your hands and do flips right gun. But I've also there's the three seventy eight weather be mag like our big old cartrires like African safari stuff, and that's the smack and the wallup and Andre the giant like all mixed into. I mean, I've shot I've shot a four sixty weather be mag with the five green bullet without a break once and it gives you just gotta do it. Actually, you guys should just you guys should just do it. You just it's fun. Next time you guys are down, Definitely, you gotta shoot it once. Just it is so much force. You know what I shot one time, I can't remember. It was one of those those like it was like sharps, like a replix sharps, so like they're not seventies when are they like a four sixteen Rigby or either way. I was in California. We're shooting this thing, okay, and it had one of the all those quickly down under sits should have been I'm not kidding. Yeah, he said that. He was like, oh, yeah, you can see the bullet. I'm like, you can't see the bullet. You can see the bullet definitely if you're shooting out. He had a target like a couple hundred yards out and it's like there's no way. We were talking about you look like you catch a glimpse. It seemed like it was like halfway there and you catch a glimpse of the slug going through the air. Trying to pride ourselves. You can't see our bullets, definitely can your billboard out there and shared and you can't see our bullets. Rio, Seve can't see. We're excited about the project though. With you guys, it's been it's been a fun collaboration. And I hope you know you're listeners watch or whatever you call the people that are out there and the meat eater world is nad Yeah, all the knuckleheads listening. I think it's uh. I think, to be honest, I think it's there's gonna be some experience shooters nunners. They're like, Wow, this is a rifle that I really want to own. But I think it's also so then you could step into as more of a new or novice hunter into So I think it really I don't know. I think hopefully, you know, kind of captures the vast part of the audience in that sense. Oh yeah, we get so many emails, people like lots of emails, and it's like a daily thing. Is people kind of trying to dig through the all the rigmarole in language right there, like I want to get right ball away shot, hand me downs, go by, what should I get? Blah blah blah. It doesn't make sense. I get overwhelmed. And now I'd be like that, yeah, yeah, all ready for you. Yeah. And like Adam said, sports is Warehouse has it, but also weather we dot com. And just to review that process real quick, is that if you were to go to weather be dot com and select a rifle in the cartridge that you want, you would then select an FFL that we would ship that rifle to. A lot of people don't realize we don't ship a rifle directly to your door. Can We cannot do that, So you have to select an FFL in your I don't actually care where it is, but p prefarably in your city. You would select that off of our website. We would then ship that rifle to that FFL, in which then you would go in and complete the appropriate checks like thirty bucks right to do it, California, and the sportsman is gonna be stocking them heavy, So it's a great opportunity to get in there, you know. Shoulder and asked the guys behind the counter. We're gonna be working on training with them, and so I think you know, they're gonna have some associates. They're gonna be excited about that. Again. I think it's gonna, you know, pop off that shelf. You know too. Hit a point that Kevin was making just so people understand, because I don't like the lingo of the FFL. So it's like federal, No, you don't need a great job. I feel like some people don't know where Tom Abo does you think all the federal firearm licensee. So what happens is, um, there's there's a questionnaire and when you go to a firearm transfer, you go down and fill out a very simple questionnaire and it covers like, um, if you have felony, felony like any kind of restraining orders, dishonorable discharge, are you there's some recreational drugs, there's some kind of there's some kind of question around I don't know how it's phrase, but something citizenship. Have you ever renounced your US citizenship or something like that. And you can't just go down the whole thing, go no no, no, no, no, no no, because they'll get you in the end. Yeah, the last question is different. Remember no, no, no, no, no, of course not and the and then that's all. That's what it asked. Like when people say, like going to my FFL or doing to the FFL, that's what it is. You go down and give me driver's license, You fill out this thing, they check, make sure you're cool, and in most cases most places, you you walk out. Most places some some states do have a weight period, but most do not. So we'll take a little bit of time for them to run the check. So sometimes it will take a couple of minutes, I'll say, walk around the store, and but like literally a couple of minutes. Yeah, it's a the old phone end days are long gone, and said Nick's National Instant Criminal Check System something like that. And it's pretty fast. If you've got a real generic last named Smith or Jones, it could take longer, but for most people's But I did hear during the height of the COVID buying that they were a couple of hours. They happen, especially the store is really busy and you've got a bunch of people with the gun counter, it might it might take some time. But while you're down there too at the store, I mean, usually you need accessories, whether that Biammo scopes, mounts, all that kind of stuff too. So it gets you, you know, get you in there to see what else you're gonna need to go along with it. So there's one thing I want to comment on the rifle. If I can't, and then well, I think and and it depends on you know, listeners where they're at, and they're kind of technical knowledge of firems and things. But like I said earlier, probably accuracy is depending upon a number of different things, and the barrel I believe being key to that. And one of the things that Vanguard has and I think for that value is it's there you hear different ways of barrels are made, and that's probably other things thrown out and then everybody's like, what's all. I mean button rifle and the cut barrel and the Vanguard rifles are hammered forged, and really what it is. It's talking about how the rifle ing is put in the barrel, because the first you just drill a hole, right, but you've got to actually get that rate of twist that's in there. The actual rifling and hammer forging and barrels has has been kind of for a long time known as one of the one of the premier ways to actually do a barrel. Uh, and that it's it's actually you know, literally pressed that it's it's you know, there's a huge trying to put it in. Uh it is and it just goes E is doing this and it's actually then taking and putting the rifling in there and doing so in a way that minimizes the stress to the barrel. Uh, so that it can maintain its concentricity said a word, Uh, you know, being concentric and all those things. So anyways, just the way that the barrel has done Sammer forged. There's different ways to do barrels, but we found that the Vanguard barrels um are an excellent barrel, lasts a long time, but is very very concentric um as well, and that's one of the things that provides that accuracy. So you know, you look more, you get into certain things, you find something out. And one of the things that Van Guard barrel has been known for for decades is that they have really good hammerforge barrels. So something else to kind of throw in there if anybody geeks out on that stuff, if I like it, well, yeah, y'all. He likes that kind of stuff. Yeah, well knows wall someday I want to add up all Yanni's nicknames. Man, do you have a little inside joke, it's like the nickname. Yeah, he's got a lot of Well because Queen Man's was a good friend of mine. That's why I think is cool. We started with bird list for our yard. Um, we're at six. Not bad, nice, it's great. I feel you're you guys, your family blow my family away. Yeah, we've started one too, but we've fallen off, so I don't think we've made it past. I feel like you'll you'll blow past me very quickly. I haven't seen any humming berris yet. Them we got one, I can't. I think I can't tell if it's broad tailed or Calliope, though it's a little problem. ICES call them all hummingbirds. Then I found out that that doesn't work. No lots kind of hunting hummingbirds running around. Uh, Phil lassing, Um, you're you're you're gonna close with So we got the song about Yanni already played. I was disappointed here there's no accompaniment? Can I in first? Oh? Yeah, of course, you know it's about your bigger bank. You need one more thing because after you get your super badass, whether it be meatia rifle, you're gonna need something to cut up the meat with your get again, to get the meat craft knife, to cover your new stuff. Will your barrel down that level of steel? Don't do that, don't take you. Don't touch your knife to your barrel. Yeah. No, we've been doing something. We've been doing some fun stuff. Man, that's little stuff we haven't done. We've never really engaged in it. I always always curious about just kind of like waiting for the right, you know, the right sort of Well, you're passionate about quality products. I mean, that's what like you even when we go around hunting, you're like, you know what you guys should make and like that's impossible but half a brain. Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, and if you know how to make stuff, Steve, but you know, but it's cool because you guys are passionate about stuff. I think it just came out in this new knife. You guys did a bench made and I hope that you know, people feel came out in the rifle too, that that you guys, Um, Yeah, I think your creativity and really kind of knowing you just do a lot of hunting from lots of folks. It's been fun to get involved in it. Uh. Then we all, you know, feel free and Bill's got a hot hot concluder. I'll just stay with the rifle one more time. I think it's we are we all here in this room put together a very quality product. UM. As far as what is out there on the market, there's a lot of kind of upgrades, like if you if you went to a lower price point rifle, a cheaper rifle, if you will. UM. There's a lot of things that we feel eventually enough time on the ground, you'd be like, oh, you know what would be nice is this? Or you know, boy, I kind of like that on that And that's what kind of gets you working up a little bit into some different kind of quote custom things. And that's kind of what this package is UM. And you know, it's still it's under a thousand bucks um weatherby dot Com UM, which is still a chunk of change. But the good thing is is you're not going to have that feeling of like, oh man, I wish this one had this or this one that had this. Uh, And it's something that just never goes away like you are eventually gonna be like, ah, I've had such a long life and hunted so long and I need to give this thing away. Uh, and you'll you'll be able to then hand down a very high quality shooting iron. Yeah. It's like you know, you can go when you touch it and worked the work the action on it, like work the bolt down stuff. It's like it's like a you know, it's a quality gun. It's a quality gun. You're like that, She's about the good one. I think what's hard in audio podcast is we've tried to describe, like the fluted barrel, it looks really good. We really didn't touch on how good the stock looks. The stock itself hand painted. It's a black base with kind of like a gray and a tan. It looks incredible. So you gotta go check it out, whether it be or Sports and Sports dot Com. Um last thing, our good friend Doug Durn, the beautiful, lovely Doug Durn. We're gonna he wrote a song, what we're doing Our our whole live tour got postponed. Everybody had tickets to go to the shows, knows this. Um the Dog was gonna do some of the live shows with us, and he wrote the song he wrote he wrote a song about the podcast. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah people. Yeah, people were just stuck it in there and people noticed. So yeah, it's and people are like I saw on Instagram, I think it was people were debating whether or not it was Doug, but yeah, it's Doug. Doug says that in his whole life, he's only ever finished one song. This is it nice? Thanks Doug Yohan, He's in it. Oh. Couple more verses of this It's me dated podcast talking about things might want to It's needy podcasts, people w love things and my wat Dark Amount, Hunting and Fishing and conservation and occasionally and by White taild Well underwear. Stevenneality's the host man That guy likes to talk, so purely bug Mitten unwereless Stevens as a host man that fella loves to talk. But make no mistake about it, my friends, that skinny guy. He also walks along right can hand in Yanis? Tell you know, how can you not be a fan killing Yana Germany? Indeed we should all be fans. O. Kail's got this conservation podcast Nis the world's most half of the man. Yeah, there's a lot to talk about conservation and things we do and don't want to see. Lots to talk about conservation, things you do when you don't want to see, all kinds of hunting and fishing techniques and the bads and like c W torn fingers and other weird injuries, hunting hat and hunting fishing down on the farm, porn fingers and ripped nipples and other eye injuries part of hunting fishing, her life on the farm. But if you're lucky like I was, you know what, they just sold that thing right back on. Uh, we're in the hunt in public access. Two more subjects you should all care about, getting people out hunting public land and access. Am in on the two things that we should all care about. Fishing, cats, your release. You think it matters to travel? I do so. Welcome to this podcast, friends, it's good to have you do. Welcome to the meeting podcast with people. It's so good have you here. Just remember some of these things might seem real simple, but others they're not so clear. M h Yeah, it's long, isn't it. Well? I can clean that up. Look, you get the idea. M

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