00:00:02 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three six and today we're back for our last rout Fresh radio episode of the year, in which we're getting the latest intel and insight on current deer activity and the tactics you can be using right now to fill that late season tag. All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx. We are here for our last Rout Fresh radio episode of I know there's a couple of weeks left in the year for some of you. For for all of us, there's a couple of weeks left in the year. For some of us, they're still hunting season for something there's not um but we're gonna do here is as we do every week during the hunting season. We're going to hear from a group of hunters from across the country about current dear activity, about the conditions that are pushing right through now that are impacting dear activity and hunting, and some some very real time applicable ideas for how to get out there and fill tag. Um. I'm down to my final hunts run not time myself, so this kind of episode will be helpful for me. I'm looking for any new ideas I can get as I'm frantically desperately trying to kill my target buck this year in Michigan. UM, so I'm looking forward to this one. Spencer, do you have do you have any high level things off the top of you or mind that um stand out after chatting with our upcoming guests, or or where's your head at with all this man this time of year? It um feels like you could give the same advice as somebody would give during the rout, which is we say this often market We write this often on the Meat Eater dot com. But we always preach just like keep it simple. And if we were saying that during the rout, we'd be referring to hunting, travel corridors, hunting doll betting, stuff like that, hunting buck betting this time of year, though, I think if you were to tell someone to keep it simple, I would just mean to find the food and be there in the evenings when the deer want to pile into those places. And I think that is like the best advice I could give for these last few weeks of the season. Yeah, yeah, you're right. It doesn't it's not too complicated. But it's the execution of that is where the trick is, right, um, Because you could find the food, and you could hunt there in the evenings, and if you do it in a certain kind of way or at certain times, you might screw it up, you know, and and and not see the buck you're after, not see a buck or whatever kind of deer you're after. Um, you might not get that opportunity. So it always comes down to a little bit of you know, still playing it smart, still having a good exit route and entry route, um, knowing what the right food is. Um. So of course there are these little details, but you're right, it does come down to a couple basic foundational things, which in the late season usually revolves around those food sources. And if you know what they're hitting right now, there's some scouting or trail cameras or observation, um be there. So So here's the dilemma I've been debating there in my head. I'm curiously you think Spencer I I as as I've talked about often on this podcast. The spot where I'm hunting this one buck that I'm after, that deer I've been calling tran um. It's pretty limited. It's mostly just fields in a little bit of field edge and then a couple of little chunks of some cover. But oftentimes the bucks that I'm hunting are spending a lot of time on some neighboring properties in their cover, and I the closest I can get is like on the edge of the field, so I just hoping they're gonna pop out, and they occasionally do, so I keep on the debating. I can sit in the most likely entrance point to the food source on my property as close as I can possibly get to that betting era, and that's probably like the right spots, the best chance that the most you're going to come through. And sometimes the buckam after does pass either. So I'll do that and then he doesn't show up, and then the next day I'm thinking in my head, well, I could do the same thing again. But at the same time, as we talk about again, often the first hunt's always the best, and every time you hunt a spot it gets a little bit worse every time, and there's this desire to change it up. Go somewhere new, be mobile, hunt a new spot, surprise the deer um. So then I find myself thinking, all right, I gotta try something different, I gotta go somewhere different. And so I went to a new spot and I didn't see him there. And then you keep having this mental gymnastics going on where you're where. Sometimes I find myself overthinking things. One side of me saying, you got you something the different, go somewhere else, try something else. Then the other side of me, and this is what was going on in my head last night as I was heading out to hunt. The other side said, well, what if you hadn't hunted here before, or if you if none of these other things were going on, and you just had to simply say, based on current conditions and the wind and where you know deer are coming into the best food source around, where's the best place to be. And I would say, okay, well it's right here at this gap um, close to that betting year, right in the edge of that standing corn. Well, you hunted there once and then trend didn't show up, but you also didn't spook any deer that night, and your wind was great. No dear knew you were there. Um, you got picked up in the evening by a truck, so you didn't go walking across the field, So maybe your impact wasn't too noticeable. Maybe the Bucky were after wasn't even in the general zone that night. He just didn't happen to come through there. But maybe one out every four nights he will. So there's this other thing in my mind. This is maybe sometimes you just have to put your time in. If you find the right spot, hunt it right, but then you gotta give it some time because maybe it's the third day that he'll show up. But if you bounce to a new place every night, you'll never know that. So that's what I was sitting here thinking about yesterday as I was heading out to hunt, and I decided, you know what, this is gonna feel really stupid if I hunt the same spot over and over again. Um, but I have a bulletproof entry route, a bulletproof exit route, and great wind direction. If I put some time in here, I think eventually he will come out. So I'm I'm not gonna be fancy. I'm gonna keep it simple. I'm gonna hunt a simple, stupid field edge spot that's as close as I can get to the bedding area on my side of the line, and um, right there where I think he's going to come to the food. And so I did it, and he showed up last night and he came out, and I explained this on the upcoming main ups of the podcast, but I couldn't get a shot at him, but um, but it came really, really, really really close, And I think for me, it just was a reminder that we have to be careful not to outsmart ourselves. Sometimes you just have to put the time in when you're doing the right things. Sometimes you have to give that spot the right amount of time. Um. So that was a little less than I picked up this season that I'll think about probably the rest of the year and we'll see what it does for me next season. But I think I think you're right. I think we gotta be careful not to overcomplicate it. But like something though that I think people may be overlook this time of year is the value of scouting. And if you are somebody who's in college and has a Christmas break, or you work a job where they give you like between Christmas and New Year's off, and you're still trying to fill a tag. Uh, it can be really valuable to just like not hunt for a few evenings, to get out there and just glass and see everything that's going on. If you have some destination food source like pick corn or a food plot or hay bales or whatever that might look like for you, if you have five nights available to hunt, and I think if you put one or two of those towards scouting, just to figure out where these deer at and and look at the trails that the snow can help you decide on, it's going to make those last three hunts way more valuable than if you're just out there guessing and trying to adjust on the fly. And it sounds like Mark that it was all the scouting that you've had going into this haunt that almost allowed you to kill Tran there. Yes, you are two thousand percent right. Um. What I didn't tell you is that I had seen this buck will while glassing. I didn't hunt a few nights, and I was instead glassing from this hillside way off in the distance, and I saw him going through that betting year, heading south towards this spot near the cornfield. And if he continued on that path, he'd be coming out to the spot that I wanted to hunt. So that's why I felt so confident hunting there because I knew that, you know, I've seen him numerous times, not just those two times, but even earlier in the year. Um, I'd seen him taking that route, heading that direction, So I felt pretty confident that that that was where he had had some percentage of the time and I had the right conditions for So Yes, the scouting allowed me to have that confidence that I was in the right place and that I had to give it the time. If I didn't have that right then it's just a guessing game. Then you're blowing things up for no good reason. And that's that's where you gotta be careful. Don't sit somewhere randomly willy nilly and just hunt and hunt and hunt it for no good reason. But if you've got a good reason, and if you've got yourself the right exit and entry, and if you've got yourself a good place for your wind to blow and you're being smart about it, then yes, that's a well planned hunt. Still. Um So it's it's it's funny you get so involved in this and I think about so often that that you forget all these little steps that lead up to the ultimate decision of what you do on any given day or night, and it all kind of accrues like a snowball, day after day, year after year. Um, and then you just kind of forget that you're actually doing it. But I think that is the value and just thinking about this stuff a lot scouting a lot, hunting a lot. You might not kill buck this year, but you're gonna learn so much going through that process that next year will help you and year after year after year that eventually, you know, helps us find some success once in a while. Yeah. And besides your report from Mischigan this week, Mark, we talked to Philip Vanderpool in Arkansas from the Virtue TV. Did we go to Illinois and talk to Grant Oldenburg from Triple Threat Retrievers, And then in Virginia from the Urban Bowman, we talked to Taylor Chamberlain and then we talked to Nate Crick from Identical Draw in Kansas. Sounds like a good lineup. Um. I know big cult front just hit here in Michigan, so I'm feeling good about the next few days. Do you do we have some similar optimism for folks. Yeah, I think everyone kind of shares the same sentiment that if you have food and you wait for the right way they're being uh, you know, cold and maybe some snow that the deer are going to pile in there. And it's something that you've covered on the meat Eator dot com a few times, like what is the ideal late season weather pattern? Um, and we should have some of that on the way for parts of the country. Hey, speaking of the Mediator dot com and the articles that were writing over there. We also, as we've talked about in the past, we've got this hunt giveaway for uh. One lucky listener or viewer of the Back forty series can sign up to win a hunt with me and Steve Ronella on our Excuse me, I'm sitting over here drinking bubbly and burping. Uh. We have a hunt giveaway on the Back forty Farm with Steve and I for next year. That giveaway closes December. That's right, Spencer, correct. December I think is the last day to enter, and you can enter if you go to the meat eater dot com and you'll see a pop up where you can enter your email address and enter that competition or that that giveaway. I've got the details right, I think right. I'm trying to look them up now and I'll be able to confirm for you in one second year. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I'm I'm not a professional, but I'm an amateur. I don't even know what I'm trying to say. I'm not. I'm a professional bs er is what I'm trying to get it, and I think I b s those details correctly. The main point is it ends very very soon. So if you haven't signed up yet, go sign up right now. Yeah, that's that's right. I don't think we need to hear me ramble anymore give away coming up. Check it out on the mediator dot com. Otherwise, Spencer, I want to head out into the woods right now and try to wrap up this hunting season with a ball on top. And so you're good with taking it from here, I'll take it from here. And besides signing up for the hunt, go watch the latest episode of the Back forty Mark recovers the Wide eight. Uh. It's a super cool sixteen minute video. Uh. It's an awesome way to like put a bowl on the Back forty season. I know there's one more episode, but I felt like we have We've hit the climax. There, Go to YouTube, go to the meat Eater page, watch at least video. It's awesome. Yes, thank you Spencer, great points. Thank you everyone for going to watching that alright and joining us online. Next is Philip Vanderpool from the Virtue TV in Arkansas. Now, Philip in Arkansas, what would you say the bucket activity has been lateley on the scale one to ten, I would say about a five er sit. And the reason why I say that is we've had, uh, mainly a lot of warm weather and it seems like the activity has basically been nocturnal and when that's what I'm saying on my covert trail cameras right now, saying a lot of that, and we had such a mass crop for acres and stuff. They are still out there, They're not having to go far to get food. What would you say the ideal weather conditions are when deer hunting in Arkansas and December? Well, ideally, you know if cold, the cold of the weather, the bigger the buck and if you can stand the weather, and that's where the ground blinds usually play a play a huge park this time of year. Um, you get those high pressure days and bright sunny days with that cold winter, it just seems like it puts them on their feet more in the daylight. And that's so that's what we need. And when we get that, I think we're gonna be uh, you'll see activity. So we're up there for sure, and then they're gonna be checking for the last few days that that come in. Est was late this time of year as well. Besides acorns, what other food sources should hunters be focused on in Arkansas? Well, I mean, if you've got any any time you've got you know, obviously a food plot, you know, maybe some winter, we we don't have a lot of that where I'm at, um to be honest with you, but uh, brows, I love to hunt honeysuckles. If you can find a place that has a honey suckle thicket in there, they like that for brows. That's where they get their green and but any anything like that that that has some type of brows that they can get to, especially when the weather gets colder and the ground's frozen, harder to get to. Um. But that's that's what I would concentrate. And you know, the real feet state so a lot of the guys you know, obviously want to you know, probably throw out a little corn or a big tin is what I what I normally try to use up. And that's to get the doze in for sure, you know, and hopefully those bucks will come in and still you know, looking for a hot though it's hard to get a mature deer on a you know, a feed pile a lot of times. Uh. But that's that's what I recommend. But any time you can find a green something green that they can browse on really really works out this time of year. If you can find that. You mentioned trail cameras before. Where your trail camera is focused in mid to late December, well right now mid and late December. I've got them on crossings. I've got a lot of fence crossings, uh, where the ditches you know run down at the say, the head of a horror. That's that's our terminology where I'm playing at the head of the hollow there. But you know, places like that. And then obviously, if if you've got some showing piles out and stuff to kind of see what's going on because they may not be coming. Here's the thing. If if guys are feeding. Uh, you may not get that buck. He may be nocturnal, but if you can get a direction where he's coming from. And that's where the cobra trail cameras help me so much, is telling me what direction they're coming from. And then all you need to do is just moving a little closer to try to get him in the daylight. That's how you get on these big mature bucks. But if you can get a little food plot, I've got a buck brunch food plot. Uh, you know it's good for the late season right now and stuff there, and the deer are starting to get off the acrons a little bit and getting on that, so getting on the food plus, so I'm looking forward to seeing what I'm getting. I'm starting to get a little more activity on my trail cameras on that as well on my foot plots. Are you concerned with moon phases all late season? It can't affect you. But I'll tell you what I what I like to do, and and and and when you're going in late season. A lot of times I'll skip a morning just because I don't especially if it's a place I want to go back for the afternoon. I may skip the morning set, but get in there that nine thirty ten o'clock and go ahead and make all day set because a lot of times midday that sun pops out and if they've got a little you know, if if they're not bothered too much and pressured much, uh, you can get that midday activity. But usually the afternoons are way better when you're getting close close to the food sources. For sure, in a lot of northern states, you see a shift in bedding this time of year. Is that the same thing in Arkansas? Well, I tell you now where I'm at, it's I'm right in the heart of the Ozarks and I'm hunting mountain country and mass crops is really what they depend on. The one thing I see that I look for, um is where that sun hits. And you know on the south slopes. A lot of times do you like to get on those south slopes and get out of that cold and they will congregate in there. If you've got a food source or acron crop or whatever in that area, A lot of times that will help you out a bunch. Um. That's That's kind of what I look for. And probably as much as anything is where that sun is melting off. You know, if it's a little bit of ice, I think we you know, right now, we've got a little bit of ice, we had a little bit of weather conditions, and right now probably would be a really good time to be thinking about getting up there in a situation there and trying to hunt each deer right now again on a food source going forward then in the sex week or so, what do you think that bucket activity is going to be on a scale of one to ten in Arkansas? I think, Um, as long as we got the cold weather right now, I think it's gonna be about a six to eight level probably, you know that. I think it's gonna be really good. Now. With that being said, if that weather warms back up, it's going to probably put them back Doccnel. But hey, the way I look at this guy, you gotta be out there to kill him and you never I mean, luck's got to be on the side. A lot of times you don't know if a coach is bumping a deer or somebody else. More activity, you know, just get have to and enjoy it, man, and have fun and enjoy it. But Graham Blind's work really well this time of year. It kind of helps conceal your scent, but at the same time, UM, you know it, it keeps you a little bit warmer, and maybe get your buddy heater and just be comfortable and have fun and enjoy the hunt. A right, Philip would like your optimism, good luck and next for joining me. All right, buddy, thank you appreciate it. God bless I want to wish everybody in merry Christmas in a happy New Year and many blessings throughout going into alright in joining us online. Next is Grant Oldenburg from Triple Threat Retrievers in Illinois now Grant in Illinois. What would you say the bucket activity has been lately on this one to ten? Um, I'd had to go with it being a nine and a ten. It's tough to say ever say ten and at ten, but over the past three days we've had two great mature box taken from our property, and uh, the movement has been fantastic. So I gotta go with a nine out of ten. Tell me a little bit about those setups where you guys killed those deer. Yeah. So the buck I shot on Saturday the fourteenth was um, basically a really our only pinch point on the property between two betting areas, and uh I was able to get a shot at him at fifteen yards at about eleven o'clock in the afternoon. Um, when he was switching between bed and areas, I presume, and I was able to get a shot on him. Eleven o'clock in the afternoon. Seems really late for this time of year. Are you often doing some midday sits. Yeah, the area was in is uh. You know, I have trail camera picks from late season there and I've seen a lot of buck activity in the area late morning and it's actually kind of funny that um early in the morning. Um, right at first light, I had two shooters come in and they just wouldn't give me a shot. And then a couple minutes later I had another shooter come in which I did get a shot on and uh I had an arrow to flect off a branch. Um. Then about nine o'clock, I had a dope come through at fifteen yards as they able to shoot her, and I was just my goal is to fit till eleven, knowing that I see a lot of bucks in there between ten and noon. Just um just transferred through this pinch point and uh, for some reason, I said an extra ten minutes. Then it paid off. Are you seeing any secondary running activity this year? Yeah, it was. It was a week ago. I was starting to see some little bucks pushing around. Does again I had one nice mature buck, Um run those small bucks off and push those But um, this this past weekend, starting to see the bucks group up again, and um, you know we were seeing him throughout the property really grouping back up and seeing him in pairs and even threes. So, um, I think that's that's that's already passed. What food sources should hunters in Illinois be focused on this time of year? Yeah, I think that right now. Um, with the temperatures dipping down the way they had, we've had a couple of weeks of kemps, you know, flirting in the freezing blow freezing, and uh that's given the farmers an opportunity to finally get their corn off and into the wet areas due to the real wet fall we've had in the Midwest. And uh, I think, um, then being able to go in there and do that is opening up you know, more movement for them, dear. And then also, um, I think those are gonna be hitting a lot of those fresh pick corn fields. Now they're looking at them off the betting area that you were hunting is at the same place that they've been betting basically all the way from October until now, or did they switch betting recently in late season. Yeah, the area we hunt, they do a lot of switching on the bedding. UM. Early season, you'll see them more out in CRP fields and UM along and you'll see him sometimes on the edge of ridges up there and that you know, when it gets colder like this, we see him shift into um real dense thermal cover on on those ridges and then also in the areas of the pines um that we have. So usually after the second gun season in Illinois, he started to see him, UM, the movement kind of shifting their in their patterns change. Did you find any fresh sign making being that close to the bedding There's it's this property. Um, it's tough not to find sign as far as rubs go. UM. I mean you can find rubs almost anywhere, so um, sometimes it's it's tough to ignore those. At the same time, they're so frequent throughout the property that uh, we don't always we don't always use that information and a lot of the scrapes. Um, you know, we have camera set up on scrapes and they kind of they kind of dried up a little bit. Going forward, then in the sext week or so, what do you think that bucket activity is going to be on a scale of one to tend in Illinois? Well, we still have some guys are hunting our property and uh, I think Wednesday, um, the eighteens is gonna be a great day. It's gonna be a cold dipping the temperatures. But after that, um, not feeling so optimistic as it's gonna warm back up again. So you know, I had estimate it probably had a five out of ten or maybe even last for the upcoming weeks. All right, Grant, Well, congrats on the awesome dear, thanks for joining me. Thanks Spencer, alright and joining us on the line. Next is Taylor Chamberlain in Virginia from the Urban Bowman. Now Taylor in Virginia, what would you say the bucket activity has been lately on the scale of one to ten. Well, on the skill one of ten, it's a hard ten because of what I was able to see in the woods a couple of days ago. So when I was pulling up to a party a property in Parking, I saw a dough run by, uh and and quickly right behind her I saw over eight shooter bucks that we're dogging her. So clearly this time of year, you know, any dough that hasn't come into into heat and been bred will cycle again about thirty days later, So we're kind of just pass that window here. Uh, Northern Virginia, like the eighth to the twelfth of November is really peak breeding for us in years past. So then again December eight to the twelfth is is gonna be a prime time, But that doesn't mean that every dough in the woods it's gonna cycle at that exact time. So, uh, if you can kind of key in on late season food sources right now, try to find where those does are. The bucks are gonna be doing the same thing because they're looking for any dough that has has cycled again. So what I'm looking for right now are primarily red oaks. Uh. In my neck of the woods, the red oaks that drop early season have too many tannins in them. They're too acidic for the deer to to tolerate. When they have the option of the white oaks or other brows. But I'm not sure if it's because of the timing or that they've been on the ground, or if it's just out of a lack of necessity. Um, but you know, the deer like to key in on those red of food sources, and I noticed that the dose will bed pretty close to those. So I try to get uh in the travel areas around those feeding or around where those does are bedding, preferably the down wind side. Just like peak rut in in November. Uh, those bucks tend to be cruising by and and trying to check those does. That area has a very high deer density. So do you see a strong secondary rout every single year or there are some other factors that change whether or not you're going to see a lot of rutting in December. So we see a very strong second rut because of how high our deer density is. Based on the fact that we just have such a skewed number of does in this area, Uh, it's just not possible for them to all be bred during the first rut. So if but if I come back as a buck, I'd love to be in this area. Based on the fact that it's a low hunter density and a high dough density. Sounds like a pretty good place for a buck to be. But we have very high uh second rut, and we even have a third rut. And I've seen as as late as mid January and sometimes February since seen chasing uh just because I think those dose will cycle until they get bread. What kind of weather are you looking for this time of year. I'm looking for a something that's outside of the normal range for the week. So if we have mild temperatures, I'm looking for that first cold cold snap morning, or if we have really cold days, I'm looking for that first kind of warm up afternoon. But the I'm looking for for something outside of that kind of median range throughout the week. UM. Also looking for spikes and barometric pressure. I've found that it's common to have higher barometric pressure this time of year as a roll into the winter. But um, overall those days with really high barometric pressure, I've always seen much better deer movement and earlier deer movement in the afternoon with this second and third rout. Do you see a lot of signmaking then late into the winter, for sure? Yeah, we see UM the standard kind of signmaking that you will see throughout uh, you know, late October early November. The only thing that's really different is UM. I think it's really uh specific to little pockets, so you have to find those pockets that hold the dough densities. It's not the same you know during late October early November, where the bucks are kind of cruising everywhere and just leaving sign it seems to be more isolated to tighter on the dough betting areas. But overall, UM, there's tons of tons of scrapes. You can still good active pictures in daylight on a scrape, lots of rubbing, but it just seems to be tighter to that cord dough betting. Where are your trail cameras focus in mid to late December. I like those travel corridors, any any terrain pinch points, UM, areas that the deer are gonna have to travel through that are really kind of close to that food area. So I like to try and hone in on the food source, figure out where the deer betting that the dose will really not travel very far uh this time of year from betting to food because they're all herded up. They can get away with maybe a little less cover than they would need to have a different times of the year when they're kind of uh more broken up for the ruts. So I like to kind of put my cameras real tight to betting food travel corridor kind of uh not not as much on scrapes, just because there's less activity, uh consistently than there normally is and kind of like late October when I normally have a have a camera on a screen going forward, then in the sex week or so, what do you think that buck activity is going to be on a scale of one to ten in Virginia, I think it's about a seven. So if you can find the does, you're gonna see really good buck movement. Outside of that, if you're in the wrong spot or you're outside of where that that core dough group on your areas, you might see zero movement. But if you find the DOES, I promise you'll find bucks. All right, Taylor, congrats on the awesome buck you just killed. Good luck with what's left of your year. Thanks for joining me, Thanks for having me, Spencer, good luck everybody out there alright and joining us on the line. Last is Nate Creek in Kansas from identical Jaw now Nate in Kansas. What would you say the buck activities been lately? On a scale of one to ten, I would say buck activity lately has probably been close to seven out of ten. Um, I would say seven because it actually started to increase with this colder weather coming through in the snow, and it just seems like what the trail cameras have been telling me and what I've seen is um, those bucks starting to move go to those food sources, and we've actually still been getting a decent amount of daylight activity from them. So it's been it's been pretty good. What food sources shoot hunters and Kansas be focused on this time of year. I mean there's always the big ag with corn and beans. UM. The best food source that we have that we're hunting is beans with um mixed with brasicas, with radishes and all those things. And it's been it's been super good. We have trail cameras on and we're getting still daylight picks and some of our best hunts have been in that field. UM. Just a few days ago, we had the neighbor who was hunting next door when we were down there, saying you've got there's so many bucks in your beans field right now, And the secret to that was we just we just didn't harvest them. We just we didn't mow them downward, just letting them stand go through the winter because right now, after the busy chasing of the rut, food is on their minds. So it has been a ticket those standing beans and ravishes. Are you seeing any secondary rudding this year? Oh yeah, we have actually seen a pretty good, um glimpse of it. It's kind of winding down now that I'd say the last ten days to two weeks, we've actually been having our our scrape cameras get hit a little bit more with bucks almost making second or like another round of sign and then a few We've had some pictures and been seeing activity of still some chasing some bucks with their heads down and kind of move pushing those around. So there's there's definitely been a little bit of that where most of your trail cameras focus this time of year. Um, we transitioned a lot of them from the big timber November UM hunting spots to the bean field and a round of food sources. But I would say our besides the being camera that we have right now. Our second best camera is in bedding just off to the beans. We are getting a ton of movement and still some some good buck daylight pictures. Actually, twenty minutes before he called me, we had a shooter ten point walked right in our bedding camera and it's just in thick um basically weeds grass roses um, right off of our bean field, probably six yards and that's that's our best camera in the property right now. For context, Nate and I are talking at one pm, so you had a buck just up and moving around noon here. You mentioned that the betting is near the bean field. Is that where most of the deer you find are betting this time of year? Yeah, they're from what I've seen. Is there right off that food source. I think that they make it easier. They just say, I'm gonna go feed whenever I want. It's right there. I can be bedded down by the food source. Um, and I mean it's on a great facing slope, so there they're comfortable most of the day and I feel like they feel really secure by that. And right now I think they're safety is that food source, so they want to be close. Do you find any signmaking around the edge of that bean field. Oh yeah, we are being feelings been some of the best signed. Tons of scrapes along that edge, UM and you can just see there's deer trails, I mean clear the day, especially with the recent recent snow we've had down there, it's clear tons of scrapes along that field edge. How did the deer in that area respond to gun hunting pressure, Well, the gun season actually just ended this last Sunday in Kansas, and they we definitely noticed some some some nighttime activity definitely picked up, but it was it was kind of interesting. There's a warm spell during a lot of that um rifle season, so I noticed a lot less movement on the cameras and from when we were out there. So I'm not sure if that was because of the rifle movement of more guys in the woods, or if that was becomes of the weather. But it could have been a combo. But I know that area gets hit pretty heavy. UM. But I mean after that ended, these last two days have been some of the best um buck pictures we've been getting all feet and almost I mean tons of daylight action. So I don't I don't think they really minded it. A ton. There was definitely a time there where the cameras went quiet, but I'm not sure if that was weather or hunter. So it really hasn't been too bad going forward. Then, in the next week or so, what do you think that bucket activity is going to be a scale of one to ten in Kansas? I would say it's gonna say. I think eight to ten is what I put it at. Um, it's been really good lately and I plan on it being good the next at least few days. Um. I see the temperatures are gonna rise, so that might slop things down a little bit. But I mean late season can be this time of the year can be the best time to get after the buck he's been chasing. Um, get on those food sources if you can leave that food standing. And it's it's been super good for us, all right, Nate, Well, good luck with what's left of your season. Thanks for joining me. It sounds good. Thanks been ser