00:00:01 Speaker 1: What's up, every one? This is Mark Kenyon and welcome to this week's installment of Wired to Hunt's RUT radio miniseries. And I'm here again with Spencer new Hearth, who's going to be checking in momentarily with a series of hunters across the country who are gonna be failing us in on what kind of RUT related activity they've been seeing over the past week and what tactics they're using right now to hunt mature bucks. So that's the plan, right Spencer? Ah, Yeah, and uh, it's great here in salth Dakota. The only thing that would make it better is if it was November. I know they countdown to November is something we're all excited about, but I don't know what's I'm kind of curious. I want to reverse this on you really fast here, because you call these hunters and you're asking them about the overall activity from one to ten where they're hunting based on what you've heard so far. What do you think the number is if you had to average it out across everywhere everyone you've talked to you so far, if you had to put one number on the RUT related activities so or what is your number, you would say, based on the calls I've had today, probably a five. Five. Yeah, but it's like it's an anticipation five. If there is such a thing, I like that. Everybody kind of says it, um with with a glimmer of hope you can hear it. And uh, you know, they're all kind of waiting on one of two things, either a cold front to roll through in the next week or so or the calendar to flip in November. So um, everybody shares the same feelings that it's only gonna get better from here on out. Yeah, for sure. Now, I gotta tell you though, my number, my personal number, is way different than what you guys are are seeing so far. I gotta I gotta say right now, Spencer, my number is like a nine. No way, Yes, my numbers and nine. I had the best hunt of the year last night, and I've seen a crazy amount of activity. So do you want can I tell you about that? Yeah? I want to hear about it. Yeah, okay, so I'm gonna give you the super cliff notes version. But long story short, last night I saw five mature bucks. I saw my number one, Shooter holy Field, and the other two mature bucks I've had in trail camera. I then saw those same two bucks, a three and a half year old and a four and a half year old. I saw them again this morning, and both times last night and today they're chasing dose around. Also last night I had a three and a half year old the two and a half year old fighting. They're sparring out in the middle of a bean field. And then you know, spoiler alert, I got to full draw on holy Field the number one buck I've been after here in Michigan. He came in chasing a dough into my food plot. Well actually snort wheezed him into the food plot. Then when he got into the food plot, he bumped a dough and then ran through my shooting lane. And when I got to full draw, he was already a like forty yards and it was just too dark. Um, but I had a crazy, crazy hunt. And then again this morning, Like I said, they're out in broad daylight, like an hour and a half after daylight, run around in the field, chasing does a four year old in Michigan That doesn't happen very often. So I'm on like a serious adrelling restaurant right now. And as soon as we get done recording this, I'm heading out into the woods and trying to get another crack at them. So it's a nine here in southern Michigan. Yeah. So you say in Michigan this doesn't happen very often. Why do you think it is happening? Is there something different very local to you, or what's going on? Well, I'd say two things. I think. Number one, I try to keep the hunting pressure as low as possible on the specific piece of property. So these deer feel really comfortable out moving in daylight more than most areas, just because I'm so obsessive about that. So that might, you know, account for some of the activity, the daylight activity. But the reason why I really think things got going is that we had a fifteen degree temperature drop hip and we have very high barometric pressure and it's rising up to like the highest I've seen it all hunting season so far today. Um So according to a lot of people like Mark Dreary and all those guys, that's one of those key indicators that really gets dear moving. Um So that's why I went out last night because I was like, these conditions look great, and um I think the final piece of the puzzle is that there must be a dough or two that is like just about coming to estus, you know, pretty early compared to most doughes. So either they're just about coming or there actually is a dough that's already in the heat early. Because these bucks, you know, they're ready to go, at least from what I've seen. You know, it's not abnormal to see little, you know, year and a half old bucks bumping around does early, you know, chasing around because they're ready to go, but the does aren't ready. But I don't see four year old bucks in Michigan chasing does around this time of year, you know, partly because there's not many four year old bucks around here. But usually they're smart enough not to be chasing does until you know it's actually meaningful to do. So, So things are, things are ripping and roaring right now. Yeah, So I don't know why you're sitting here talking to me. Then that's a good question. It's very good. Like I said, I'm going to be hitting the woods in a matter of minutes, So I guess we should keep this short too, then, Spencer, So I guess who do we have? Who do we have on Slate today. Oh, we start off in Missouri with Matt Jrewery of Juliel Doors, and then we talked to A. J. Gall of Legendary White Tales in Wisconsin. Then we have Eric Long in Ohio of Drumming Log Wildlife Management. Then we have John Armand in North Dakota with Ultimate Outdoor Adventures TV. And finally we talked to Tim Bieble in Vermont with the four pointer dot Com. Nice. I like it. We've got a good swath of the country covered there, and uh, I'm excited to hear. I'm excited to hear what they have to offer. Is there is there anything we need to cover before we're jumping into these interviews. Um, you know, I think one thing we need to stress is is how timely that these interviews are. Um. You know, I got some feedback last week after the podcast, people asking you know, hey, when were these recordings done and when did you interview these people and stuff like that. Um, but we gotta stress how timely this is. You know, we're having this conversation on Tuesday, this podcast is going to go up on Wednesday, and all these interviews I did were today and all these people give me the reports based on sightings from the last couple of days. So this is as relevant as it gets, I guess for for buck activity. Yeah, that's a great point. And that's that's why I love about this is that we're giving you such current intel. We're trying to give you as current intel as we possibly can. So yeah, these reports are as of today, and if you're listening to this on Wednesday, they're less than twenty four hours old. So um, you can definitely take some of us apply it to your hunts in the coming days. And uh and I don't know, Spencer, if if you think we're ready, I'm ready to get right into it. Yeah, you you better get to the tree stand, all right, man, wish me luck? All right, thanks Mart, But quickly before we get to our first update. As all Weird Hunt podcasts are, this episode is brought to you by Sitka Gear. If you'd like to learn more about Sitka Gears technical hunting apparel, you can visit Sitka gear dot com. And now onto the show and joining us on the phone. First is general manager for Drewelry Outdoors, Matt Drewlry. Now, Matt, I know you've been hunting northern Missouri. But of course you get connections in Iowa and Illinois and other player cecil on a scale of one to ten in your area, what would you say the bucket activity was for this last week? You know, I think probably still in the three to four range. I mean, it's still pretty low, you know. That being said, of course, you know Mark Drew killed the biggest deer of his life in Iowa, um on Friday. But you know, the conditions were just really ideal there. It was the first south after a bunch of nors. It was high pressure day deer in general. I think he said he saw like fifteen or sixteen deer that morning, So it was a it was a good deer movement day. It really didn't necessarily have anything to do with you know, rut conditions or whatever. It was just a good movement day. And so he hit the conditions just right. Of course, he he knew um the deer that he was after. He knew that he was in his bedroom there. He had put up a blind five days before that, so he he he was after that one specific deer, and he thought he'd have a pretty good chance that morning with those conditions. But that being said, you know that was you know, that's obviously a really highly managed piece of land. I think I think that specific piece of dirt was acres um. But he you know, he's surrounded by a lot of um property there where they all managed. So you know, my specific lease, which is about an hour north of St. Louis where I hunt primarily. I mean, it's it's you know, it's still it's still got a little bit to go. And and frankly, I think this week with the warm temperatures is not really going to do us any favors. I think, you know, everybody looks forward to the last week of October. In the first couple of weeks in November, uh, you know where the deer activity and the running activity really starts. But um, I have a feeling, you know, if if the temperatures are in the eighties, it may be a lot of movement at night. Your trail cameras might show you that, you know, a lot of the stuff is happening at night. And if there are any cool mornings, I think mornings could start getting good here and you'll see, you know, a lot of the jury outdoors got eyes, will start hunting mornings right around now. So Um, yeah, I think it could get good, but the warm temperatures certainly are not going to help her cause here. And so for that haunt that Mark was on when he shot that incredible buck, what was his strategy that morning? Was he pretty aggressive? Was he hunting near their bed? Was he hunting a field edge of what was going on there? Yeah, he was really aggressive. Like I said, he he was in this dear's bedroom and uh, he had just erected this muddy bowl. It's a scent proof blind that he had put up like five days before that, and it was on the kind of an edge of a little field and next to the timber and this, uh, this buck was actually he said that there was a three and a half year old that was I think he was making a rub on a tree right next to him, and that noise, he felt like, alerted the buck he was after to to kind of come out there and and stay in his ground. And he said he was watching this three and a half and also the demeanor just instantly changed and he looked back, his ears went back and he took off running. And Mark instantly said to his camera guy said, there's a big deer on here. Somewhere and before he knew it, he looked up and this this the buck he was after. Danger walked out right, uh, fifteen steps from him, and he came on five steps of the blind. He was headed towards where this other buck was, uh, and Mark shot him at five steps. Pretty pretty unbelievable. But yes, he got very aggressive and got in on his bedroom. But he had the right conditions that morning. Yeah, that's incredible. So Mark was around some you know, typical late October deer sign. There are you seeing a lot of scrapes and rubs in your area? Yeah? Absolutely. I switched all my cameras over about a week ago to uh two scrapes, and it's definitely starting. Uh they're starting to pop up everywhere on my lease. So it's it's a good sign, you know. But all the pictures primarily or still we're still happening in the middle of the night, so um, you know. But it was warm, so I I really feel like, you know, coming up here. I looked at the extended forecast, and you know, the ten days not overly great. I think next Tuesday, like next Monday, it's supposed to be eighty degrees Uh. In my area, and then Tuesday drops the seventy two. I think Wednesdays, the day that I'm kind of circling, it drops down the sixty six. But if you think about it, you know, it's still it's still really warm for November the two you're just trying to catch some cold weather that the deer is still going to be doing what they do. But you know, with that warm weather and Monday it's eighty degrees, so I could certainly foresee a lot of that movement happening in the middle of the night. And of course your trail cameras are going to show you that, especially if you have them on scrapes right now, you're gonna find out, you know, if they're moving in the middle of the day or if they're moving all you know, to three four am. That then you keep you know, what you're dealing with their um. That's not to say you can't catch one on their feet, and you know, and the more warning when it's still cool out, but it definitely doesn't help her cause. Yeah, And so with that said, going forward, what would you expect the buck activity be on a scale of one to ten for like these next ten days or so, Well, you know that last couple of days. Halloween is always a date that everybody you know as circles, is a good dear day. But just looking at that forecast, it's a high eighty and a low of sixty here in in in the St. Louis, you know area. I'm sure most of the Midwest is gonna be dealing with that. So I would not, um, you know, the activity is going to be happening, But like I said, I just feel like it might be happening in the middle of the night unfortunately. So you know, I'm not very excited about the weather forecast. Unfortunately. I really think it could be tough here in the next ten days. So I would be shocked if the deer movement daylight is a five six because of the temperatures that that's you know, and I could be wrong, who knows. But um, if after this first ten days here, you know, if the first two weeks in November get really cold, then look out, I'd say it could be really really good because that's always a period that's good anyways. So I would say that those uh, you know, if if we get some cold weather, look out for the fourth through the you know, through the Yeah, and like I told a couple of guys on last week's show on I'll be hoping for a cold front for you. So yeah, that's what everybody really wishes far, you know, especially the guys that are taking a week off of vacation or have already scheduled that week off. You know, the one thing you can't control is what what Mother Nature does with the weather. And so I think everybody's got their fingers crossed that hopefully a cold front comes in. Yeah. Absolutely, well, good luck, Matt and uh we look forward to the footage of of Mark's deer and we'll keep falling along with the rest of Drewy Outdoor team. Yeah, please do follow us over at our Facebook page of Dury Outdoors of course a Drey Outdoors dot com, our journal and then uh Instagram, Twitter, YouTube. We're constantly putting up new new videos, so be sure to follow us and check it out. We'll do, thanks Matt and joining us on the phone. Next is legendary White Tails content manager A J. Gol a J. Huntson Wisconsin. So, A G what would you say, on a scale of one to ten, the deer activity has been lately. Yeah, I would definitely say, this past week, it's starting to ramp up. I would I guess right now, I'd probably put it at about a stick. And so are you basing that off of some hunts you've had lately, or some scouting or trail Cama activity or what's giving you that info with being it being a six? Yeah, I would say, Um, I came to came to six because of a recent hunt, I've had, trail Cama activity, and what other bodies are having in this area. It definitely seems like this last weekend quite a few mature box at the ground stuff was starting to be a little more daylight active. Um. Scrapes are scrapes are getting hit hard right now. UM, and the cold front coming up, so it should be this whole week should be pretty good. And and I kind of limited it at the six just because I got high hopes for the next next couple of weeks to come. So, so have you started haunting aggressive yet or is that all going to change for you here coming up at the end of October. Yeah, it's gonna be. This week. Um, kind of kind of been pretty pretty laid back, not too aggressive so far. UM, but especially with this this cold front, this week is pretty pretty good weather all around. Um, it'll be ramping up this week. I've got vacation the fifth through th of November, so but I'll be out as much as I can these next two weeks for sure. And so your buddies, you have been having success in that area, Um have There's been more of morning since or evening since. Um. Both actually, so I had to that that tag pretty nice box this past weekend. Um. The one was morning and there's two of them out and that was kind of the western side of Wisconsin and Burnet County. Um. And they had a lot of activity in the morning, he said, all the way through about ten am is about when they got down. But they had pretty content activity, a lot of stuff running around. UM kind of nose and does you know, not nothing too hard and crazy yet. And then the afternoon that was kind of he wasn't. I wasn't doing much of any type of running activity other than just kind of being curious and walking during daylight and feeding along a cut soybean field. So, UM, this morning on the way to work, saw some saw some running across the field wide open. So definitely starting to turn up here a little bit. And so do you think their food sources have changed? You said that one um was a soybean field. Do you think they're still you know, hitting the hardwoods itself or the on agriculture right now? Yeah, my area we were pretty dominated by um by farmland and the woods we do have, they're not usually that heavy and oaks. There's a lot of maples down here, so we don't have to worry about huge acorn crops. Um. But I would say right now they're starting to hit the corn fields. Soybeans are mostly coming off, so if they're not getting plowed under right away, they're definitely browsing in those because all the beans are knocked onto the ground. Um. But yeah, crops are changing this week, they're going to continue for the next week and a half. I would say that corn is gonna start to come off, so those cut corn fields are gonna be gonna be hot for a while. So you would say, if you were hunting a field edge right now, that would maybe give you your best shot is a cut corn field over anything else. Yeah. For me, I would, um, you know, probably about a week or so, that's kind of when I start hitting the pinch points and funnels. More travel corridors type stuff. But I think right now they're just kind of wanting to to feel and play around with those doughs, and those doughs are gonna be likely, you know, outfeeding in those recently cut crop fields or or even food pots if you got them. So, um, those those bucks are getting nosy right now, especially the young ones. They're the ones that are are really moving around. Um So, but yeah, definitely target the the field edges of recently cut crops. So what about going forward for this next week or so, what would you say the bucket activities are gonna be on a scale of one to ten children By what the weather is coming up, I would say it's it's going to ramp up too. I think it's gonna be really really good first or this end of the end of October is going to be better than it has been probably in the last couple of years, just because the weather's um. It looks like for the rest of this week it's at least in the mid forties for US as a high and then up to the fifties, but anything under seems like it's got the deer. Deer moving um and you know, test asterones continuing to rise, so they should get better and better a lot more daylight cruising, I think. Alright, Agi, well, I look forward to talking to you after your rutcation there. Good luck with that. All right, sounds good. Thanks a lot, And now joining us on the phone is Eric Long with Drumming Wildlife Management. Now, Eric in Ohio, what would you say? The bucket activity has been on scale of one to ten, probably about a four or five right now. It's pretty low. And so what are you basing that off of some encounters or trail cam activity or what are you seeing? Well, the trail cam activity, let's address that first. Um, it's been kind of just just kind of a minimal type thing. I'm not seeing any daylight necessarily photos that wouldn't and indicate you know, running activity. Um. And also you're talking to my clients, um that I managed for pieces of property. I talked to them just the other day, try to get a feel for, you know, what's going on at their properties and they're basically seeing the same thing. Um. And also too, is any take this for what it's worth. I got about a two our drive each day and you know, through rural rural country, and I'm not really seeing any you know, chasing or anything like that, and you know, talking to UM farmers and stuff like that, you know they're not really seeing the activity UM as well. So UM So basically, like I said, it was, it's it's kinda kind of stagnant right now. But UM, I say that with this being said, I hunted last night and UM, I had, you know, some yearling box come into the food source the food plot that I was hunting, and they weren't bothering the dose, but they you know, they were checking them lip curling. And then my son who was hunting, actually I was just with them. We had a four year old come in. He wouldn't commit to the food plot, but he was just walking around, just lip curling, but keeping his distance away from everybody. So I'd say it's almost on the verge of breaking out. So we're starting to get some activity, but it's still kind of just low key right now. And so what do you think we need, um for it to really break out? Do you think we need a good cold front or um, something to change with harvest or just day lengthwise. We just need to have some patience. Yeah, I think it's Yeah, everybody has their opinion on it. Um. My thing is just time, um not to go draw in a drawing out thing here, but every three to four years depending on my time, but it's roughly every three years, UM, I do a fetus study. And what that is is I try to kill as many dose as I can in January because in Ohio we have a pretty liberal hunting season where we can hunt all the way up into into February. So that's positive. Um, so where we save a bunch of tags. Has some people come into one of our main farms, and we try to kill as many dose as we can legally and collect those fetuses. Now why do we do that because we can measure those fetuses and determine and doing a certain measurement, doing some adding and subtracking, we can then decide see actually when those does are being bred. And lately the last one we did, um, it was from November nine through to twelve. So no matter how much activity is prior or, you know, and all that stuff is still somewhat consistent if you have a good quality dear hurt, you know, it's not all over the map. So you know, the rutting activity is one thing, but actually the rut itself you know, it's stays consistent from the time period that everybody knows, you know, in the Midwest, at least in Ohio. Right, So I was gonna ask you, how relevant do you think, um, that study that you're doing is for you know, neighboring states or or do you think that's a very local thing. Oh, it's very local obviously. It depends on if you're managing your piece of property. Um, you know, the deer densities and stuff like that. So it is a very local type thing, it is, sure. And so going forward for the next ten days or so, what do you think the bucket activity is going to be on a scale of one to ten? Oh, without a doubt. I mean I would say, by um, the middle of next week and next week if I have my crystal ball, you know here at the end of the month in November, I would say, you know, three stand time is going to be very crucial. You know that pre rud activity is you know, to me, I love hunting pre right. I don't like hunting the right itself, you know, Um, you know our places are kind of just dead, you know, the pre rud activity, I just absolutely love it. And still on a scale of one to ten. What what do you think it's gonna be? Uh scale of one to ten? You know here by the end of the month, I would have to say, you know, you know, be up towards seven seven, uh eight? Eight? Is you know by the end of the months here, I think it'll happen just that quick. Yeah, well, we're excited as each calendar day draws closer in November. So thanks for your talking, thanks for your time, and have a problem. I hope the rest of your fall goes great. Yeah, and likewise to you, sir. Alright, and joining me on the phone. Next is John Armand of Ultimate Outdoor Adventure TV. John in North Dakota. What would you say the buck activity has been these last ten days on a scale of one to ten, um, I would have to say from when we've been on the field is probably around US three. It's not been, um, super fast and furious. And so what are you basing that off of some trail came activity or scouting or actually hunting or what are you seeing? Well, we've a little both. I went out and checked the cameras the other day and the activity saw a lot of those on the food plots. Um, you know, the bucks are starting the cruise. I'm seeing different bucks showing up in different areas, but the ones that I had on camera earlier, for the bigger ones, I'm not seeing right now. And I've talked to a couple of my friends. Some outfitters at UM run quite a bit of land and you know, they've seen some activity. They've actually had a couple of really nice bucks, probably one sixty and one fifty that were locked together, but the guy actually shot. So you know, things are starting to pick up and they're starting to to hammer on each other and they're starting to cruise around. But UM, from US hunting last week, we saw very little activity and so the bucks that they are you are getting on camera, these newer deer UM is a mostly nocturnal movement. No, the ones that UM we've seen on camera on the food source have actually been UM early, you know, around seven o'clock in the evening. UM seen a lot of activity in the morning. UM, but they're there, you know, the bucks I haven't seen the been in a one thirty class range nice dear UM, but just haven't seen the big boys UM yet. But they could be in different areas too, and so like where do you think those bucks went that you've been you know, patterning all of October. Do you think they're on the neighbor is now or do you think they're still They're just not really moving yet. I think there's they're still there. You know, we um run two thousand acres mountain in south central North Dakota, and we have a lot of drawers and coolies, and what I've seen is that our story being filled and things. When in September August September when there's a lot of green um for them, they were hammering them early and right now they're kind of switching gears and they're going over to some of the corn. But I think a lot of these bucks are just starting to spread out. You know, they're there in their bachelor groups and now they're kind of moving around and they're gonna be there. They're just gonna be different parts of our place. And that's what usually happens, is that they just kind of spread out and go to the different areas and start checking those and things like that. Right, so we we shouldn't hit the panic button yet then for you, um, so you would say this is typical, then, uh, this sort of behavior that you're seeing you know it is you know, it's every year we struggle. You know they say the October law and UM, you know, this weekend we're hoping it's going to pick up. You know, it's um, you know, Halloween weekend and UM thinking that cracking the horns together and doing a little grunt call. And I think these bucks are starting to get into it and are usually seems like it. And you know, around the Halloween weekend the pre rep and then start we open up our rifle season UM the following week, and we started to see some really nice activity then and it continues through the middle of November to the end of November. And so what have you been seeing for deer sign wise? Do you think scrapes are really hot right now? Are we starting to move off of that a little bit? Well, you know, we we're not big in the scrape hunting, UM, but you know the areas that I do hunt, there's huge scrape plans that go through. UM. I have personally never killed a deer on a scrape. UM. Just nice to see. I think that the ones that we're seeing a lot of them are the ones that they keep open year round because it's a kind of their signpost type deal. But you know, the rubs are everywhere and we're starting to see, um, you know, more scrapes in different areas, um where these bucks are cruising. And so going forward, what what do you think the buck activity is going to be on a scale of one to ten in this next week or so? You know, I would like to say it's going to get up to an eight or nine, but I just know how that what goes. You know, it's funny that you know, we're a weekend where so we get a hunt the weekends basically, and you know some days, you know the rut is on fire. You go out one day and you'll see bucks chasing all over dog and does and the next day you see nothing. And it's always been baffling to me. And I don't know if they're in lockdown. Um, it's just one of those deals. Time creates opportunity and if a guy I can get out there as much as possible, I think you're going to find some kind of rucket what activity going on, It just depends on what day it is. Yeah, right on, Well, I hope that the rut lines up with your weekends of a we'll here and uh, we'll connect again soon and hear how you're doing all right, buddy, Well, I appreciate it. And finally joining us on the phone is Tim Bieble of the four pointer dot com, which is dedicated to New England whitetail hunting. Now t him, I know you've been hunting Vermont in New Hampshire lately. What would you say the buck activity has been there? On a scale of one to ten, I would have to give it a probably around a five to a six. Just this past weekend, I think the weather really took a turn for the better in terms of deer hunting. It's been real, real warm this fall, and there's been a lot of food, a lot of food in the woods this year. So the dear activity has been the movement at least has been next to nothing from what I've experienced, and just this past weekend that was out scouting and heard from others. But scrapes are starting to pop up and and rub so it's it's getting to that point where it's pretty exciting out there. So looking forward to getting out there tonight. Actually gonna plan it on no first great tonight in an area where I've had some success, calling in the past, so hopefully that'll work out again tonight. But I'll give it a five or six. And so how aggressive are you typically this time of year? UM? You know, are you hunting some of your better stands yet or are you showing some patience with those? UM. My strategy, to be honest is is I hunt when I can so UM. You know, I can't get out every day, and the days that I have an opportunity to hunt, I take advantage of it. UM this type of this time of year, I would say I probably I'm a little bit more aggressive at least with calling. UM. I still try to slip in there where I think the buck activity is going to be UM. But calling I definitely ramped that up. Most of the calling around here was blind calling. You can't see one hundred yards in the woods, so UM, I definitely utilize those quite a bit, more grunts and more UM. These can call a lot little dough bleats this type of year, and have had success with yer responding to those. So hoping that I can catch that buck just out cruising, you know, checking his scrapes that he's recently made, and maybe pick up on one of my calls and and come on over for a peaksie, what's over there? So? But yeah, that's that's my strategy, to just try to get in there close to their scrapes and then try to call to them. And so, are you more of a morning sit right now? Or you do a lot more evenings this time of year, more evenings at this point, Um, getting into that time of year when I can I can get out in more mornings. But up to this point, um, it's been all evening sits for me. And I mean all honestly, check my bag out you'll see I haven't had much success as it is so far this year. But deer movement has been pretty slow for me this year. Just like I said a little bit ago, it has done really warm, above average, and just a ton of feed in the woods in this area, just up and down the Connecticut River valley in Vermonton, Hampshire, just acorns everywhere, beech nuts everywhere, and coupled with warm weather just doesn't give the deer much reason to move until that lack of deer movement that you're seeing, would you say that is all white tail across the board right now or just mostly the bucks that you're noticing? A lack of movement with I would say that's that's pretty much all white tail moving across the board in my experience, just just been next to nothing, really sure. And and so how can you use that abundance of food information right now this time of year? Does that help a hunter or not? Really? Well, it's frustrating for sure. But I think one of the lessons I'm learning or trying to trying to act on that I've learned in the past is to give up a few nights of hunting if it's just not not productive time in the woods and and spending those those times when I would otherwise be sitting in a stand to scout and see where I can find that fresh feeding activity. Um. I mean, you know, if you can find those oaks where the deer happened to be, uh, sit there for a couple of nights in a row, and see what happens. If it's dead there, you know, move on to the next spot. But that's it's pretty spotty right now. And that's the strategy I'm trying to employ, um and it it does work, but you gotta find where they're at as they're just not moving much sharing going forward for these next ten days or so, what would you say the buck activity is going to be then on a scale of one to ten, Well, it's only going to get better. And the you know, the the weather forecast looks promising. We've got some chilly weather sticking with us now down into the twenties at night, and even today it's barely reached forty degrees. And so that coupled with this type of this time of year, uh, you know, the bucks really just start cruising. It's encouraging to see that scrape activity out there in fresh roums. And so it's only a matter of time, which is I think one of the most important ingredients to a hunt is just time. You just gotta just gotta put in the time. And eventually, you know, if you play your cards right and put the time in, something's gonna happen. And so it just all comes down to take an advantage of those opportunities that are absolutely well. I'll be following along at the four pointer dot com and hope to see you with some antler in your hands. Yeah me too, All right, thanks A lot spends to appreciate it. And that concludes this episode of rout Radio. Make sure to follow wired Hunt on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Spencer new Hearth. I look forward to the next time I talk to you guys, because that will mean it's finally November. Thanks for listening.