00:00:00 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Tyler and and you're listening to the Element podcast What's happening on What People Today? Casey and I are sitting on a rainy kind of day in my house, which is neat because we've done so much podcasting and trucks over the last few years. Especially, there was a time when you and I both didn't really have a house, and so it's nice to be in a house and I'm thankful that we can sit on the couch again in podcast in comfort and in relative quietness. Um. But if you're listening, thank you so much for just being being a listener of the podcast. We appreciate that a lot of guys, this uh, this thing that we do, we don't take lightly. Um. We've been blessing the opportunity to do what we do, and uh, we really appreciate your support. It means a lot to us. So with that said, we've got a qute A podcast today. We're gonna be answering some questions from you guys. UM, and we have a lot of questions that have been submitted. Um. You know you can also submit questions for future Q and A podcast. We're gonna try to do one of these maybe every couple of months, and maybe even more often than that during the season. Um. So right now we're coming out with this thing mid October and hopefully it helps you in this latter part of October going into the rut Um. Not to mention, I think there's some things that don't even they may not even only cover deer hunting, but there's a lot of speak you're on doing, like a rut Q and a two. I know we're kind of stagging him close. We meant to have this one out before South Dakota, but you lost your voice and we were in separate trucks and it was pretty tough. And then now today's my first day to have a voice back pretty much so, and it's like October fourteenth. At one point, Uh, you and I could not turkey call at the same time, both of us. We'd have been turkey hunting. Would have been bad. Yeah, we were. It was crazy. I I kind of got sick, I guess on the way up there, um and lost my voice almost completely. Um. And then by the time I sort of gaining my my fight back in me and my voice and everything, Casey was pretty much I guess had the same thing. Whatever it was and lost his voice, and so we basically went on a ten day trip. We couldn't podcast one time hardly. I guess there was one day when you know, we did a short, short update. So we'll be doing another couple of updates here pretty soon. Um. But anyway, this is the this is a Q and a podcast. We're gonna make it pretty simply that and we're gonna get after it pretty quick here because there's a lot of questions and we don't have a ton of time. Um, just make sure real quick, guys that we'll probably remind you this at the end. But we have um a lot of stuff coming down on YouTube right now, South Dakota stuff. We're real successful there, so we're gonna be putting a lot of videos out from there really cool if you want to. For if you like following the storylines as we go on these strips and stuff, We're gonna do a little bit of that. It's not just gonna be like, hey we killed the buck and then hey we killed another buck. It's gonna it's gonna tell you how we got there throughout, you know, kind of like the Ranch Buck series a little bit. So hopefully we can start releasing those pretty quick. We've also got a how to hang a saddle fast episode or Casey hangs got twelve foot up in less than five minutes, r U under five minutes, so uh, shows kind of how he does things when he goes up in a tree. Maybe you can learn something from that. Um, And yeah, that's kind of what we've got going on on YouTube, So make sure you're subscribed over there to see what we've got going on this year. Thank you so much for the support there. And uh, with that, Casey, I guess we'll hop into this unless you've got something else from with us. Do a little hopping alright. So, UM, do you plan to hunt all states or just certain ones? I think your answers better on this than me. I want to hunt the fund states. I don't really want to go hunt anything that's like, man, you should hunt Florida, you know, like I mean would have been. We've had that said so much and just I would like to hunt a bunch of states, but I don't want to go somewhere that's just really tough. I like, I like to enjoy my hunting, But why do you why hunt Florida when you can hunt East Texas. Yeah, exactly the same tiny deer. I'm going to Lamorada, Okay, stopping around and no deer country. Yeah, I'm I'm I kind of would like I have this kind of goal, or I've had it at least one point. I mean, who knows if I would get there, but I kind of had a goal to shoot a deer and every state that they are they exist. So um, that's kind of a thing that I still think would be cool to do. But right now I'm all about hunting fund states too, So definitely not going to Florida anytime soon. Um. In Nebraska, did you find a lot of cattle on public? If so, did did you see many deer on that particular piece? M hmm yeah, actually we we found a lot of cattle, but there were deer still in some of the habitat pockets. So country though, if you're if you're hunting a small piece, I feel like that has a lot of cattle on it. I don't feel very good. Like if I can see that on the areal that there's cattle at a at a stock tank or something like, I'm probably not gonna there's grazed and there's grazed. You know what I mean. Yeah, there's uh basically a golf course grazed UM, open country versus wooded What is your favorite and why? UM? For me, that's tough question because it's a very general question. There's a broad question like what's your favorite? UM, I can tell you. I'll tell you what I like about each one. How about UM, open country? I like the fact that you can see, dear and learn almost every day from deer. UM. That's one thing you miss out in the wooded country and wooded country. UM. I like other things about wooded country, such as UM the fact that there is a lot more plant life around, so there's a lot more to observe. There's a lot of times there's more deer per square mile in that country, so you have a chance of running into a lot of the deer if you find the right spot. Um. And then there are things in the woods um that can direct deer if you really dig in and pay attention. UM. As opposed to open country sometimes, like especially you know, you can you can think an open country that well, if I'm in trees, then I'm probably a good spot and you're probably right. But if you have a big old uh, you know, section of grassland. How do you figure out that out? You know there are ways, for sure, but those deer can still you know, move a hundred yards away and it be no, you know, no different than where you're at. So what about you? I would say, just to give an answer, open country. I like seeing you're making moves on them. You're a seer. I am dude, I got God bless me with good eyes, so I like to use those as much as I can. However, there is the redeeming quality of you know, wooded country where you know you're doing deer dynsties are higher and you can go like four hund yards and being a new group of deer almost yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. You're kind of like a hawk. You see really well, you can screech really loud. Yea, as far as you can do that. Uh, favorite state or terrain in parentheses says big woods, swamps, cut over, etcetera. It's a similar question, but maybe, uh, maybe there's different. I don't I don't know if I could tell you my favorite state, because that ain't got to hunt all the ones I want to yet. But favorite terrain, um, it's probably going to be like overgrown bottoms, whether there's not a bunch of trees bottom girls, that's right, that's right. I like places like if I could just pick out an ideal whitetail hunt spot, and you probably can think about which area I'm talking about. Um, there is weeds and forbes and all that stuff that's six ft tall, and there's little holes and pockets where the deer can move through, and there's a few tree scattered around through in there. And that's what I like. That's my favorite spot on like, um, maybe if you're you know, from the north, you might call it Marshe Yeah, Um, I think I'm with you. You know, actually killed the deer in South Dakota are very similar type of habitat a little bit. Uh. What I had found was an open area that not necessarily open, but it was open within the timber had some bigger trees that were spread out more and all that stuff underneath was real thick. So same deal. Man, I like a big overgrown bottom. Uh. My favorite state that I've hunted. And maybe I created this hype for myself, but Iowa was really cool. Um it's hard to beat IWA, I mean, just especially where I was at. Man like there's so many different types of habitats and trained there that you can get into something new in a matter of no time. You know, you've got got swamps, you got open country, you got um big woods, you got rich country. So it's pretty cool. Um M, how did you start? That's the question. How did you start? Uh? Does that mean hunting or does that mean all of stuff life? Sometimes? Actually December thirteenth, my mom went into labor. Uh now, probably started hunting. Um. My first hunting memory was my dad had a little lease that we grew watermelons on in East Caney and I was five, and it had some woods on the back and I went out here out there one time with him when he had a thirty thirty and we were walking through the woods and he shot at the late point. That's that's what I remember from I was making so much noise. I was like running through the leaves, jumping, you know, and it was just pretty much him taking me out to do, you know, just to be out, you know. But we actually end up shooting a deer, so that's cool. Another thing I remember is he like found like two sticks and each like each of it had war branches and he stuck those two things in the ground kind of like it's like a tradition thing. I don't know if we ever did every game. Yeah, that's funny dude for me. Um, I guess if you're asking me, like what what it looked like to start, same deal like story wise that you're talking about, it's like, uh, first deer hunting I ever did was down in inst now, Texas. My dad had a buddy who UM had a foreman that worked for him that owned land down there, way down south. So we got to go to a hunter acre spot down there, and I killed my first dude down there. That was. That was not my first experience. I guess my first experience was around here local um running around on at least that my dad had the same kind of deal, looking for a little bucks to shoot shot at one gut shot him off my dad's shoulder and it was real sad about that. UM. But anyway, that's kind of like my start. I guess if you're talking about starting, how did you get started in you know what we do today? That's kind of a long road. Could go on a big detail on that, but maybe you can clarify in the next few names. I need to be its whole podcast or something in these days. Yeah, for sure. Um, where do you like to set up? This just comes from a gentleman named Eric Gentry. Where do you like to set up late season when there's not much food around? That's a good question. Well near the food that is around, like that would find the food? That would be that the answer? I kind of. I think that helps you out some. I mean, uh, if you're talking public land versus private land, that's gonna probably vary quite a bit because a lot of times, if you're on private, you've got the food. If you're on public, you're not. You know, you have to find Sometimes you might have the betting if you're if you're hunting on public. I will tell you that last year, my late season hunting was mostly in Texas and it was much more pressure opinion. I went to a place where people hadn't been very much and there was quite a few deer in there. But there's food around. There is some food around. I mean there's like in Texas even in that time of year, they neat greenbrier or whatever, you know, like there's got their honeysuckle privet. They're gonna find something late season right here. That's the that's the key is uh all gentry lives up in Illinois and so for them, yeah, there may not be much food around late season up there, so you I mean you have to find it. Like and you know, those deer can live on woody brows or whatever, but like they have to have something to eat. So you have to figure out what that is. And that's gonna be some kind of destination food source in most cases. But if you're in the South or something like that, you know there's food around. So, like Casey said, find something that is not uh, doesn't have dudes crawling in it or whatever. You know. So, um, this guy says, I don't know much about arrows TVH. Y'all shoot vector? What grain? And why? Oh this is Nick guad American. Got Um do you want to go first? To me? Go first? I'll go first because you probably a better explanation. Um. We shoot vector because it is an affordable option for a quality heavy arrow. Um. And I'm actually shooting the z mrs right now, which are unreleased, but they are soon to release, so be looking for those. They're a little bit lighter than the HMR, which is also known as the hammer and um, I had a pass through in South Dakota those zammers zammers zammer zamers. Uh. But yeah, so like as far as grain, I think I'm shooting with those five I'm shooting something like that. Yeah, that's what the insert that's a good weight. Um, I'm shooting the hammers. Uh. And my t o W is, which means totally away is about UM six hundred, which, to be honest, is probably what you would call overkill. But that's just kind of where it ended out and it's tuning really well. So that's what I'm shooting right now. I might shoot some those e mrs in the future, but just like Tyler, like, I like the durability of I like a heavier arrow for sure. And Vector has really a pretty cool tool on their website to just be able to determine what is the perfect arrow for your bow and send you something and you can choose some colors and stuff like that. If you want to get a discount through us, right, yeah, that's right. Uh code Element all caps you get ten percent off, so uh you legit can get top end arrows to your door for about the same price as you'd go to the shop and get you know, medium grade arrows or whatever anything. They are within uh one one thousands of tolerance, so pretty good arrows anyways, UM, good dude, a good Christian guy, and UM, so in general to kind of make it broader than vector. Uh, why don't we shoot that type of arrow? Um, because you can kill them with all of them. But in my opinion, the plus is outweighed the minuses. With a heavier setup versus a lighter set up. With a lighter it up, you have flatter trajectory and faster bows. Um, deer can pretty much out jump any speed bow, so I don't worry too much about that. The flatter trajectory is the nicer thing, and that's kind of why I'm interested in moving back down to like that thirty range possibly in the future. However, I'm not having any problems with trajectory at all, because I smoked us South Dakota deer with a six hundred grainer trajectored through the heart. That's right, that's right, Um. But I think that UM, with that heavier arrow, you definitely don't feel bad about crowding the shoulder and try to shoot one in the pocket as opposed to uh, kind of the traditional outdoor model out or TV model is like shoot him in the middle, Yeah, in the liver lungs and yeah, not not really into that. I want to shoot him and find them in twenty minutes. And that's what you and I both did on this trip. We did. I can't. Um, Okay, let's see. How do y'all know where the bucks will get pressured too? On Texas public public land shotgun areas? M M, it's tough. Uh, But I would say most of the time it's in places that people don't want to hunt, not just that they don't want to go, because I think that that's actually pretty easy to figure out. And then there's enough dudes that are willing to go to the places that people don't want to go. But what we find, and you can probably back me up with a little bit more on this, is that, um, places that it's tough to actually hunt, tough to either hang a saddle or a stand, or tough to not get seen that sort of thing. What do you think that's um, that's where you had a lot of land or a lot of success which which had a lot of land, I like last year on Texas public land. That's where you ended your season was in a place that was hard to hunt, and you had a hard time hunting it too. I mean, and I think, and I truly think you're just a great hunter. I mean, so like I think that, yeah, you're really feeling it. Um. But I mean I would say like that even a guy that I feel like hunts very it is a very good hunter also had a hard time in here. So you know, especially somebody who doesn't maybe have as much experience as you or something would really have a hard time to probably um, but maybe they see it with fresh eyes and see it differently. I don't know, but like my my thoughts are that you know, like the same thing in South Dakota if you look at the aerial man and you just kind of don't really dig in on it, like what I where I killed? You're just like, oh, just expanse, you know, like what is what? Where do you hunt in there? And how do you you know, find a find where that you're going to be that morning or whatever? And so I think that's definitely a good good thought as like, and I was not, I mean we were tune or fifty yards in or whatever, like we're not far in from the road. So that's the thing is like you don't have to necessarily go a mile and a half have to go where other guys won't. But that helps, right, But like you know, sometimes like you may there may be a road or a trail that leads into a place and that helps you get a quick half mile back into it or right up next to the road off that road if you just were to just pop off of it real quick then you know, and you hadn't hardly been on it. Like guys may not want to hunt that right behind those houses or something whatever it is, you know, and so they end up uh passing by and getting getting further up in there, you know, And so dear, we'll pocket up in that area, especially when they're getting pressure deep you know. Um, I think I think from about uh a quarter mile to three quarters of a mile is a very heavy pressure spot a lot of times for the most public land. So that gives you an idea. Maybe a lot of guys want to go in and take at least two turns and then feel like, oh, I'm here, yeah, you know, and they've been about point six of them miles. So um, let's see thoughts on scent eliminator's recommendation. This is from Mr one d Gossip. Mm hmm, what do you think? I think that um. I used a sentient scent eliminator spray while I was in South Dakota. I did one one one day. I think me and Eric used it. I think it was after we had showers and I could smell somebody had some fruit on them, you know, fruity smell on them. I was like, Okay, let's just go ahead and spray down. We're gonna sweat our tails off, you know, and we have been sweating our tails off, so like our hats are probably swaying and stuff. So I just spray all that down. And the main thought was this, um, not that a deer is not gonna smell us if it gets down wind, but that um. The wind was almost non existent that day, and I expected that evening for the wind to just for basically our thermals just to settle around us. And so I thought, maybe the less um scent molecules settling around us, the less chance of one drifting off into a weird thermal or wind and getting into some deer's nose. So I don't know, it's just like it's one of those things where it's like a few bucks to have one of those around. And if you're thinking about it and you've got time, I'll tell you what. If I hunted differently, I would probably invest a little more into it. Um Like, say, if I was like your dad and I had a spot and I went in there a lot, and I was hunting giant bucks on private land, I probably would spend quite a bit of time on it. But with the way we do stuff, there's just no way to do much scent elimination all as much we're getting in and out of the truck. I mean you could. I used to be like, I'm never filling up gas in my hunting boots, and now I literally will just don't even care, you know, Like and you know, eating fast food or eating whatever you're eating. You know what, there's just no way to do much about it, you know. I think that having you can put as much effort into trying to understand like microthermals and little wind drifts and stuff like that, and in the way that like, for instance, on this trip, there were times whenever I would look at a map with like on on X, I'd look at the um hybrid mode on X right where you can see how like this hill kind of descends down into this bottom and you know you're supposed to have a northwest wind. Well, if that hill is kind of coming in from the northeast, you're gonna have a pretty much northeast wind at the bottom point of that hill because of the way the wind currents hit that. And you can put enough knowledge into stuff like that and enough everything like thinking that way as you could, you know, trying to worry about sent elimination and probably end up way way better. Guys like to be like, oh, just play the wind, but don't explain that, you know, that's really the method of explaining that, you know, uh, working on your approach angles coming in a direction that you don't expect. Dear to smell your ground scent and we got smoked by grounds and on this trip one time, like cost Eric, and I'm a sure buck because we literally went in set up in a perfect spot, but I got greedy and in a last minute tried to push a little further in to find a better tree to hang and couldn't find it. Had to come back and backtrack, and that deer hung up at thirty five yards and on our ground and we didn't get a shot. You'll see more about that later. But anyway, before spikes, I don't mess with it much. However, I do spend all year in scent free um, laundry, detergent and soap. That way, I don't. It's like not even a regiment at this point in time. It's just what I do. So doing what you can, yeah, you know, that's what we we get on on the road, man, And like it gets tough on a long trip to keep some kind of scent elimination going, especially when you talk about adding multiple dudes and camera gear and everything, and you know, the camera might have been in a wedding, you know, a week before or whatever. You know, So it's just like, I mean, we just try to do as much as we can. My wife might have gotten the truck with you know, perfume on the day before at church, you know, like who knows, you know. Yeah, so I mean, but I like your thoughts about about how you know, a wind can from a certain direction, can play off of a hill that goes a certain direction and kind of change the east and west or a little bit or the north and south. A little bit or whatever. How many times on this trip the guys come back, Man, I don't they call for a northwest, but we had a northeast the whole time. It's like, well, this is you know, that's why, because you know, a good strong wind up against a terrain feature is gonna change the terminal direction of that wind. Well, let's talk about this a little bit too. UM. You you hunted a spot that I had hunted it for a few days and I sent you in there was like, man, this could be good, you know, And um, is that spot deep down in the you know, in the valley there or whatever. You and Eric went in, UM. And one thing that I thought that I noticed these deer doing was um waiting, like staging on thermals And maybe this is the thing we need to do as a public pen or something like that. But like, you know, I don't know, but I wanted to make sure and talk about this. And we're uh live on Instagram right now just for a few minutes, UM, So if you guys have any questions or thoughts, we can add that in here. UM. But basically, the the idea is, UM, I watched these this group of does and two bucks come in one morning. Um, they were I don't know, half mile away. They were a long ways a way. We could see them all the way up this big drainage, right and this strainage goes up and heads out close to an agg field, which is the destination agg probably like I don't know, three quarters of them all away. And so like these deer came off early off this agg probably you know, before shooting light. And we're in this big bottom uh bottom section of the essentially the top the head of this draw. But they're down kind of in the bottom, and they're on these little flats and stuff down in there, and they're sheating grass and stuff and waiting and wait and wait, and I'm like, why are they taking so long? You know, they just feel comfortable. They're gonna bed there. Next thing, you know, the sun starts rising and they start to work their way down on a little more solid pace and they end up getting like maybe two hundred yards away and then kind of like disappearing down to the bottom of the straw and like the next thing I knew they were the whole the whole lot of them was blowing up at a hundred and fifty yards and tails are flying and they're running up the drainage, and I was like, man, what just happened? It took me a second, you know, I thought about it. It's like what just happened is those deer were literally staging at the top of the straw before they came down into public in the morning, and once the sun rose, they realized, which they can realize the stuff because they live in it and they you know, everything there there every day they have supersensus. But they realized that the thermals are now working up this drainage because the sun has hit the ground and you could see them literally like we had had some rain and stuff, and all this do was just like working its way up out of the grass and shooting up that hand canyon, and uh, they just when they got to like tuner yards or whatever it was, you know, like they eventually got a whiff of us because our wind was supposed to be the opposite direction, but it was so light and variable that the thermals are working against it and ended up spooking them. So we noticed like in several instances where deer we're staging um waiting on and using thermals, and it made it really difficult for us to hunt up there sometimes because there's a lot of draws and drainages where we're at. So I know we spent a lot of time on this question, but there's a lot to be said about it. So um, and then that also addresses wind and stuff like that too. So a good question, Dolan. Um, anything else you wanna say about it? I mean, we can do a whole podcast. Um, So this question and says the best way to start applying for tags? Both White Telling Western explain the process? Please? Uh, both White Telling Western explain the process? Well, the best way to start is to get good WiFi. That would be and then I think I'm gonna we're gonna try to make this like two minutes or so. But um, you need to determine what your goals are. If you want to go on good hunts, if you want to go hunt trophies, if you just want to see new country, uh, and go from there. I think that if you want to see new country, you're um, options are limitless. However, you may come home with some selfies for Instagram and that's it. So uh, you know, you probably need to table that a little bit and and maybe at least go for an opportunity hunt. Um, uh, go to the states that you hear guys talking about, because um, that's where the animals are. I mean, there's no tricks to it. I know, I realize you could probably go to Maryland and hunt a deer and shoot a big one. But like you know, Iowa, Missouri, Illinois. Oh, how those are all states that you can go and do some shooting. And some of those don't even draw states. Ow we're trying to talk about drawing, you know, but uh, I kind of end up going just in it travels. Yeah. Uh but uh so yeah, White Tell isn't quite as intense when it comes to the draw stuff. Now, Western stuff, you know, most of that stuff. There are some OTC opportunities, but most of it if you want to go hunt good stuff, the draw stuff, um pretty much I can drop it into two categories. You got you know, like dream states in the opportunity states and even units in dream units, and absolutely Colorado can break down to that. But in general, if you want to go hunting elk on a draw tag Colorado, you can do it in a year or two, you know, putting in for points or whatever. Uh. And then Wyoming is kind of the same, whereas like Arizona is like kind of a dreams eight. Well, it depends because if you if you want to hunt a certain unit with a bow during their bow season might take you thirty points, but if you want to hunt it a few weeks later in rifle, it might take you six points. So that's kind of that's kind of you know, it just depends you got it. Like you said in the beginning, to set up what you want out of this goal. Do you want to shoot something or do you want to bow? You know, shoot some of the bow equipment, because if it doesn't matter, then go shooting with the rifle, or if the rifle odds are long, then go shooting with the bow. You know. So, uh, you just got to figure out what you're what you're wanting and why. But the best way to start applying is just to, uh, you know, have some money in January and spend it all through April whenever the the app applications start, you know, having deadlines in general. But I think that's a good point to bring up. You probably need about laying around at least at least, but you don't have to have much more than that because you'll get it back from a lot of these states. And some of these states don't even ask you to front money. They just actually charge you like a hundred bucks to apply, which kind of stinks, but whatever, but that's probably, um, you know, kind of the general idea. You gotta have a little bit of money to get this thing rolling. Yep. I think that. Uh, you know, it's one of those things where you just gotta dig in. You know. A good place to start also be Jay Scott podcast or Randy Newburgh. They know quite a bit about the Western stuff. So Jay has hours and hours of stuff for you. Yeah. Yeah, just don't be tired when you listen, right, Okay, Um, let's see kind of instagram one over here. Yeah, every hunt, every plan in hunt Louisiana. Um, I don't say, I don't say a plan too, but I might. Yeah, i'd like to. I love I've hunted in Louisiana. Just my dear. I think there'd be some cool stuff over there. Yeah about here. Any state that touches the Mississippi has a good chance of having a big deer. It's right, man. Um, have you all ever tagged out your entire Texas lessons? Know? We've talked about that before. That meal to your dough is gonna be real hard to make happen. Um. Also the Eastern Turkey, right, that might be difficult to Yeah, it could be. There's always gonna be something, right. You only have so much time in the year and the day. Um. Okay um when scouting. How many miles do you walk? This is also from Mr Gossip. How miles do you walked? Harder? I have walked probably up to ten and I have walked none. We drove for six hours one day. I don't know if I walked any of that day. My booty hurt after that. Um. So I would think typically it just depends on the spot. Um. You know, you and I early on walked a lot, but we were learning a lot about not just the area, but about scouting about the year. And now we can look a lot more with our eyes on the aerial imagery in topo and figure out a lot more, or we can at least eliminate a lot more ground. I think walking is very important. I just think, you know, there was some like just river bottom ash flats that we walked, you know, in seventeen and eighteen that it's like high dude, Like there there's a buck in there a couple of times a year, but it ain't really worth trying to bow hunt him in there, you know tough. I think that, uh it might be because I'm getting older, wiser, fatter, something, but I'm becoming a Dippian top guy, and I think that it's actually pretty effective. We do a lot of that now. Like we see a spot like, man, that's pretty good looking spot. It's not real far from the road, but it's kind of inconspicuous Dippian I would say that like the little two mile loops or where I find that we find the most stuff out we do, you know, kind of a mileyan mile out kind of deal or whatever. That's where um or even like shorter than that to tep in and look at the food source and go in. There's a ton of tracks right here on the edge of this, like and just to assume it's probably not not mostly night tracks here, you know, maybe hang a camera, which we did that in South Dakota. But yeah, you're definitely right, man, Like shorter shorter walks to figure out things and then make assumptions from there can can help. But you know, also we did pay a lot of dudes maybe to get to that point that yeah, absolutely, because we've seen a lot with our boots, so now we can look at a map and be like, oh, that's what this looks like back in there without even seeing a side unseen. Also, I found that, uh, those depiends, if you can do twenty of those, it's way better than doing one big one because there's high high risk, high reward of a big one. One guy goes in there and messes your whole plan up. Where if you've got the twenty spots that you've kind of gone into done a little scouting on, you know, yeah, your heart isn't broken with trucks there. Sure. Um, okay, we've got another one real quick on Instagram. Um, and we gotta fly because we've got a lot of these. Approach to getting on New Deer during October on new property, UM, hot sign, hot sign. Food source, scrapes if you can find white oaks, per Simmons, whatever else for food, and then scrapes probably right or depending whether they're in the country. You know, uh, egg too, so right now, corns coming out in a lot of places. If you can find a corn field getting cut, I don't know that that much from experience, but enough smart people I know say that that's another big deal. You know, go find some corn that's getting chopped down. Um, do you believe, dear, we'll see cameras and avoid that area video cameras that's seen it happened. I don't think that they're walking through the woods looking for a camera. But there's we have some some footage of one off of a trail camera that I mean, he got spooked bad from that camera, and I don't think he ever showed up on that camera again he was in the area. But I think that that's one of the reasons why I almost always were hanging him at least head high, human head high. And whenever we're hanging cameras nowadays, yep, Um, how high do you hang your camera? That would be human head high? At least at least in public land. You know, sometimes we you want to put that camera above eight foot because most guys can reach an eight foot ceiling with their hand, and you know, you want to think like there may be a six six dude walking around out there, so you know, closer to nine ft might be good. Um, And then you know, if you have a stick with you. Just make sure because a lot of times what you can do is put a stick how hanging hanging you know, from a stick, and it's still be less than nine ft. You just didn't realize because you're putting in it, you know, at your chin or whatever. So just make sure that even if you have a stick, you're hanging it high enough. Um. How often do you all get messed up by other hunters? Dickens is huntred hunter stickens? I don't. I don't think that often anymore. Uh maybe um in a different way. Used to we get walked in on a little bit. Um, But now I think that we just have a better bearing on like what areas are getting pressure and we don't even go in there mess with it too much? Um. What do you think I'm trying to think? If I last year, Uh, in some of the states, we have a real tough time with it, Yeah, because there's just limited public land. Texas is that way too. But we know, you know, we know a lot of this stuff pretty good, so we can find a spot like well, we checked a camera last year in Texas that had a dude on it that messed the area, but we didn't. I don't know if we actually hunted that area before we checked the camera. So I only hunted that spot one time. Yeah all last year. Cameras can help you with that, I would say, um, but yeah, I don't know. I don't think like that. I'm trying to think. I did get There was a time in Kansas when I dropped you off a place and went and some dudes that you know, I guess they I don't know, they were hunting in there where we've hunted before, and so I had to I had to really find a new plan real quick. And yeah, sometimes some of our areas were not in a lot of planks places we can hunt. So uh yeah, I had to in for us um our cell cams worth it for Texas publicly, and speaking of what do you think so far? I love them too, think they're awesome. We got we hadn't been out there to check them cameras at all, and we got big bucks on cameras showing up. I mean we watched we saw one coming in the other night that we were like, man, we could have killed them on that wind. So it's exciting. It's also a good information and I think if we I'm hoping that like if somebody comes across one of those cameras, that they would see that it's a cell camera and it would keep them from stealing it. So that's another podcast were when I see cell cameras and steal cameras. But like, just I see one of like, I don't want that. You don't like a picture of me? You feel like to them my camera. But dude, and with these Moultrie Deltas or a hunter Bucks, you know, like that's barely more than what a like a cheap old trail camera costs, you know, and I just think that you can't hardly beat that for um, you know, a public land scenario and we don't have to go in there and stink something up. Instead, we got this delta sending the stuff to that and we just look at it when we want to check it. You know. Um, how do how do you think to sell camp service and signal has been throughout It takes a public pretty good. I think about other places. Other places it's a little spotty because we end up with more terrain, but you know, in Nebraska and South Dakota, we still are able to run them and do pretty good with them. I think, Uh, you know, um, here's the thing with a cell camera on an out of state trip. If you don't get a giant buck on that camera, it's not the end of the world. You've talked about this before, I think, because um, it just tells you, hey, that trail isn't really producing much right now, so maybe you don't. Maybe it tells you at least a hunt a little bit different or a lot of bit different area. I think there's the uh south to cut of corn Head uh from this you know, you name your cameras, uh, but that south cut of corn Head. I think one of us might have hunted that spot if that camera would have produced more. But we were looking at it, We're like, man, it's not a lot going on right here. Yeah, we did have uh one good buck on it, right is like late the middle of nine though, like two thirty eight. I kind of figured when we hung that that was gonna be the case. But there was actually daytime movement. They're was surprised. I think I think they were dear bedded in that little shelter bell probably, so I think absolutely worth it. You know, yeah, neither they're not four dollars yep. Um. How often during the rut and post rush. Should you check truck cameras if you don't have a cell camera, which, by the way, we the cell cameras were using on the Multri deltas, just so people know. I think people have that question a lot. Those things have been really cool. I know some people have have had some exposure issues. We hadn't really seen a ton of that. We have one camera that's kind of doing a little bit of a green uh filter on it a little bit um but dude, I mean, like you said, like there, they've sold them for seventy nine dollars. Dude, we were like looking for seventy nine dollar cameras five years ago cameras. So it's good. So how often would you check non cell That's gonna be very situationally dependent if you can drive a truck to it on a fairly um, you know, unintrusive road every day, if you you know, like I think about some of our cameras in Kansas, I'm like, man, if we could check that thing every day, like you know which ones I'm thinking about on some some of that permission we have, like I mean, that would tell you if there's a buck there or not that you want to go shoot. Yeah, So kind of what you're referring to, I think is the fact that this camera sits in a kind of island of cover in a big agg area. So like the deer, if a deer comes into that cover in the early morning and is a ram on during the day, he will be there that whole day because he's not going to leave the leave that island to go across a mile of corn that's been cut or whatever unless it's hot and heavy. So you know, um, you still could benefit from it. And I think that post rut is probably even more exponential to what you're talking about. Like, you know, most deer in the country, uh that I've hunted on December tenth, are still kind of thinking about things. There's just not as many hot doughs, So in the mornings and the evenings they're kind of hyped up, probably all night too, but during the day they're chilling. And that's really a scenario where you're talking about where you know, November six, he might take off across that cornfield middle of the day, Probably not, but he might. But on December t if he was there at eight thirty that morning, he is close to you, So you know, that that data is good. Now, I know every day is probably not an easy answer realistically, UM, I would say every five to eight days. Things are changing in the fall, So you know, data from keen to twelve days ago probably isn't worth a whole lot to you, right, Yeah, yeah, UM, I'm gonna answer this next one real briefly. Subalpine for early season, white Till. Yes. Yes, Um, you guys were several different cameo brands. What is your favorite and why? Um, I'll go ahead and start real quick. Uh sick and makes high quality stuff. I also have some first light Marino that I've warned that I like a lot too. Um. And I think that natural gar has a good pattern for some of the stuff we hunt. Um, so those are kind of all my jams. I wear a big, big suit that has a it's a wall's coverall and it's real tree and it's good, good pattern to uh. I think people would a little too much stock into the cameo pattern and should put a little more into how it functions. Yeah. I killed from the ground in some sub a uh this week. Um, you guys. For the most we bought some Sicka back in the day, but for most part. They send us a bunch free stuff nowadays, so take that for what it's worth. We wear it because it's bad at the bone, right, you're not gonna turn down. The expression is don't look at gift horse in the mouth, right, And it's nice, so we wear it. And in that scenario that that stuff looks so good. Um. Now, like you were saying, natural gear in general, it looks real good as well. I'm pretty much right there where you are at Sitka performs terrifically natural gear once things start getting brown, looks the best. Um. And that's kind of where I'm at. I'm actually um. Outside of warmth, you probably won't catch me in a lot of elevated two this year. I don't think it's warm but um, you know, because they make like the fanatic stuff and all that. But otherwise that's kind of my thoughts. I'm with you on the solids too. We wear a lot of solid pants whenever where, you know, unless I really feel like I need to be camped out. I was telling. I think Chris did, Like, dude, if they've seen you, they've seen you so like that. It's just the tiniest edge you're gonna have about having some cameo bridges own as opposed to having a solid, you know, natural color. Um. What's the best way to implement entrance and exit plans on public Um? Look at the wind first. Yeah, probably, UM. Try to assume where they're betting and where they're gonna end up feeding. Um, and try not to cross that path if you can. Um, don't let your wind blow on the bedding as you're entering. And then um, if it's an evening, if it's a morning, you can blow it towards the bed exactly. Sorry, the good good uh clarity there. Uh. Don't blow it to the wind or to the field. If you're in the morning hunting, don't also go through, don't go don't walk down the field edge in the morning because it's easy. You're gonna have to walk a dead ro oute if you want to have a chance. Also, I like getting in earlier. I got in real early when I killed my buck in South Dakota the morning that we killed And it was a good thing I did. I think so it helps you to be quieter when you're not in the rush. I think that that quiet is a big deal. I think that a lot of times, Uh, you could just have this switch. We've talked about this before exit and entrance, like we used to be real bad about like, well hunts over, let's just throw a crap on the ground from the tree stand and get down and walk out of here, you know. And I think that um being stealthy the whole time you're in like you and I, dude, I noticed this, um no, no, you know, slide against any of our other compadres. But like any time we stepped out of the truck in South Dakota, maybe it's bring out of this time, you know, and we well might be a mile from somewhere we're gonna hunt any even hunting day, you know. Like, but it's just the way we are nowadays, you know. Just I don't know sets a sets a good precedence. It's better to be like, hey, why are we whispering? Then hey, can you please stop yelling? Answer? I didn't think about it. Um okay, um, fixed versus mechanical debate, question mark, it's a few words missing there and thin, but we know what you mean. Um, there is a debate between fixed versus mechanical always will be. You go ahead and me um man I have I'm not gonna say, have come full circle in this thing, because I think that each has its own place in position. But I can tell you this all right, this is kind of a different, uh different thought. Then you probably know about me if you've listened to us for very long. But after about five days on a road trip, I don't feel great about the tune on my boat and about the way things are going. So it feels real good to slap a mechanical on there on day eight and rip a deer on the ground because you just know that the thing isn't gonna, you know, just veer terribly maybe uh so, uh I would say that every person, I'm not gonna say it that way. I'm just tona say me. I will always have a mechanical in my quiver from here on out. Um those grim Reapers where you have been shooting are bad at the bone, and I think that's the key. I don't want to slap a aluminum junkie and those have some aluminium and don't me wrong, but like just like a lightweight Amazon special on there, you know, I want something that is high quality because uh, you're gonna need that if you hit some bone no matter what. Um, I still like a fixed head, especially for on the ground because anywhere you go with the tall grass and you're shooting through that stuff. Not that you should shoot through stuff to kill a deer, but something you can always Yeah, you can't. You can't always see that stuff in And man, if you nick something with a heavy duty heavy arrow, heavy duty heavy broad head, um that's fixed, it's liable to just kind of go right off of it. If you hang a blade on a front deployee or redeployed broadhead on a piece of grass, that thing is about to go sideways. I've seen it. I've done it right. So uh my, My call pretty much is if I'm on the stand and it's close quarters twenty and end and it's pretty thick, I'm probably gonna run a fixed, or if I'm on the ground most of the time, I'm gonna run a fixed unless I have long shots. I shot five bucks with a fixed last year out to thirty yards. Two of them are at thirty so I can. I can definitely attest to the fact that they all you know, they it did pretty much what it's supposed to, didn't create much of a blood trail, but um that it works I've shot two so far this year with a fixed mechanical macanical gosh, so right, I can't talk, and both of them have died very quickly, with great blood, with great blood. So for me, I think I'm gonna be shooting mechanical the rest of the year. I'm not saying I will never shoot a fixed um, but for now, just as much as we got going on everything, it's nice to slap like said, slap mechanical on and know it's gonna shoot real close to where your field tip is. You know so, and I have shot mechanicals to make sure they're shooting still similar, you know so? Um, you guys practice. I don't know exactly what this question means, but maybe you can help me. We see you guys practice a lot from the ground, but do you target practice from a saddle? How do you manage to make your shots more difficult from a saddle? They managed to make themselves pretty difficult, But I get what he's saying. It's like, uh, you know, we shoot our boast on the ground a lot, and do you practice from elevated positions? He's saying, do you, man, how do you make it more difficult when practicing from a saddle. I think so, but I don't think anybody would be trying to make it more difficult whenever they were actually. Um, honestly, I haven't done enough shooting. I don't do that probably as much as I should. But it's pretty tough logistically to make it happen. You kind of need a buddy there. And um, as much as it seems like we're together where actually don't have a lot of time to just go out and dink around like hey man, when you stand over about target, will shoot just saying you know, like that's not it's not really, it's pretty tough to make happen. Um. We're actually about to release the video tonight, uh on the fourt heinth of October, about how to say hang you saddle fast with a cruiser saddle and some sticks and getting up and do it pretty quick. But um, I do shoot from elevated position there and uh, honestly, Uh, the main consideration is probably just shot angle in vitals on a deer. If your tea meaning like you're um, posture your tea like you know, whenever you're standing up straight your shoulders and your and make a t a right and whenever you draw your boat, you're still making that tea as long as you don't contort that too much. It's the same thing. So after that, the thing that you need to consider, and this is what got me in trouble in Kansas last year, is uh, well, I still killed the deer real good. It was better than we thought. But like, you can't shoot a deer at twelve yards from fifteen ft up in a tree one third the way down the body and say smoked him, because actually that your arrow is going to probably exit right at the bottom of the deer and you might get one long. You you have to think about that stuff. And I think honestly, target practice isn't going to help you much with that because you're not shooting at a real animal. You're shooting at a dot. Uh in that Now, if you have a full body target you it might. But I think that uh, if we we have, and I think that if a person is concerned with, you know, shooting from an elevated position, that's where they need to put the thought at is Okay, where do I need to aim at this? Dear? You know? And and honestly you know, you know fifteen yards In the end, it needs to look like a high shoulder shop. I think maybe also that's something you could do, UM that could help you is, you know, if you're gonna shoot We've talked about the um the broadhead type just now, and now we're talking about shooting out of saddle. You know, one thing that might be good is to sit there and UM, get if you're gonna shoot fixed, get the fixed out and shoot it from a saddle a few times. And if you can't shoot it very good, fit's playing it all over the place. Maybe that fixes not for you this season, you know what I mean, Maybe you still have to work out something. So UM, I know that I know I'm not even saying that. I'm saying that that's about me. You know, like I put on a iron wheel the other day and it went to cruising all over the place. So I was like, all right, I'm just gonna stick with you. I think mechanicals another thing that you need to probably think about, UM is get a site possibly if you're worried about this, get your side that has a third axis and get that adjusted outright in then watch your bubble. So because if you get both of those things done and your bubble level on your side is good. Like, it really doesn't matter as long as your bow is being held on the right spot. To an extent, guys are gonna roast me. Okay, I get it, but like to an extent, hey, you probably shouldn't be shooting seventy yards out of the saddlineyways. You know, if you're doing that, you didn't set up in the right tree's right, right, But but you know twenty thirty yards, you know, you get everything level on your bow. Make sure your your points of contact are the same, you know, on your release or um on your face and cheek ear, whatever your your point of contact is, and you should be fine. So we're definitely not gonna get through all these questions and they have to do a part two. Um, but we're gonna keep going. So how it goes, we we end up like we're gonna make this short, and the first team we do kind of short, and then we're like, okay, let's talk about this. That's right man. Uh, this says arrows set both specs. We already talked about arrow set up. Let's talk about both specs real quick. This guy sits he shooting vectors as well. Good deal, both specs. I'm shooting seventy pounds twenty nine inch draws as you elite. Oh oh, you're describing yourself. I thought that's what this guy was saying. I'm twenty eight and a quarter inch draw gotta get you know, you know how he is, dude, you gotta conversate a little bit almost six ft that's in. Yeah, but at seventy pounds seventy two actually, I think you probably you're a problems like that. And uh yeah, so in shooting six grand arrow okay, um elite encore, Yeah, those next two questions, there's the same thing. How about whisker biscuits. Um, I think they're cool. Yeah, I shot one for forever. I think you slow you air down just a little bit and it might be a little bit loud, but um, if you are doing a lot of spotting stock on the ground round in some heavy cover, I think it's a cool deal. I do think that you gotta watch out form wearing out and you know that sort of thing. But they're them nameless. If you go watch nameless video, you can see one gets smoked with a whisker biscuit. How many shots can you get out of an arrow? Before it fails. I have no clue out of an arrow. Uh, You're strings on your bow are going to fail before the arrow. Everything your arm muscles are gonna fail. I mean that carbon that airs are made out of is about and you're indestructible. So don't I mean, don't shoot into concrete. Think outside influence is going to be the problem, whether you hit a hard surface or you get it nicked by another, uh broadhead or something or whatever. This sounds like a dan question. Broadhead question. How do you put a deer in front of one? Oh? It's uh, that's a good question. We watch your YouTube channel there, you go watch what's YouTube channel? We can we can put one in front of We can put a deer in front of a broadhead in about thirty minutes or last time that's on YouTube. Ever shot a narrow broadhead? Narrow? I don't know what that is. I mean last year we saw some shot some pretty narrow ones inch and a eight I think or something like uh, but um not. I got some annihilators from Isaac. You see me. Some things are tiny. It's gonna be my hog. Broadheads, you know, but supposedly they're supposed to kind of outperform their size. But yeah, I like wider too. I think, uh, if you're looking for better penetration by using a narrow broadhead, you should just get a heavier arrow instead. Maybe it's a good idea. Um g five dead meats question mark. I don't know. The hundred killed some mud real good with one. He did, dead mud, dead mud. Have you ever found that deer made it to next season with pieces of broadhead stuck inside of him? No, that's only John EBERHARDA than Um. We had a friend in Colorado who uh butcher's elk and found a broadhead in it. Um. I've shot two different elks and I'm almost positive lived over their shots. So um. Not that I'm bragging about this kind of stinks, but you know you know what I'm saying. But never I've never seen it on a deer. Yeah I haven't either. I think, Um, that may be dramatized something you're kind of I mean Michigan deer of course different. You know, they're way better. But the old Texas dear they aren't very hardy man, and their skin is thin. Their skin is thin. I think if you hit them they're gonna die sometimes. Yeah. Um this guy says, how did you feel about the gram Rapers performance? I think that question came from Nebraska, and I think after two more uh southa coma deer, we're feeling pretty good about them. They kill him. Yeah. Um, how did you attach your platform and sticks to your pack? Or how do you? Um? You and I do by the same thing on this right. Yeah, I carry in a lot though, you carrying your your platform to sticks. Yeah. I started carrying in my sticks most of the time. Well, no, I take that back. A lot of the times. It depends on how far the walk is. If it's a short walk, I'll just carry sticks. It's a long walk, I'm attaching my platform on a top buckle kind of up by my head, and attaching my sticks on a lower buckle, and they actually sit you know, we're running those sick uh tool belts, and they sits. The sticks actually kind of sit on top of that lower pouch like that's where their weight is writing and that strap is just kind of holding them against the laundry hamper up there, and it works really good. Um. So that way I get to the stand, I either get help from Eric or somebody to help me unbuckle those sticks. I can start putting those on the tree and then I get you know, however many sticks I want to go, and I'm gonna lean back on my Lineman's built if I have it on, and um just reach back and unbuckled that platform and put it right on the tree right there. If you have a normal pack, you can also put a lot of times. I like to put like two sticks on each wing or each side, so you can strap two six sticks to the left sides, two on the right, and then put your sad right in the middle, and usually putting clothes in there to help it just snug up, you know, but also to carry your clothes. Funny you say that, dude. I sometimes take more clothes than I know i'm gonna need, just because I like the pack to be fuller. Sometimes take more clothes and I know i'm gonna need because I'm gonna need. If you're running light white stuff, it's not that big of a deal, you know. If you if you don't want to take those big cover rolls in unless you need them, oh, I know, you have to fold them like three times and then hope that your straps are I got some good pictures from Ila you just being quasi moto turtle man. That's the worst thing about backum rattling antlers man is trying to get them to fit on all of It's like ridiculous. Anyway, I think that's gonna about wrap it up for us for this one. We literally really have probably at least another seventy five questions UM. So we didn't get to all though, so we may have to do it part two pretty soon or just add these on UM when we do our November UM rut Q and A. So if you do have a question UM that we have not answered yet, to make sure and send that to us via email in the d M s and Instagram or even on Facebook UM and we will add that to the list and we will try to get to it. UM. Guys. Again, it's coming up on the best time of year. Thank you so much for for paying attention to what we're doing. 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