00:00:01 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is Wired to Hunt's rout Fresh Radio powered by First Light. I am your host, Spencer new Heart and this week we're talking about hunting December weather fronts. Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rout Fresh Radio. This is episode four seven and this week again I am joined by Mark Kenyon who is back home in Michigan and has a deer movement report for us. So what have you been seeing Mark as of late from your glassing and trail camera observations. Yeah, so I have not been out hunting really in Michigan, and well a long time. It's been about a month since I've hunted in my homestead because all the trail I've been doing. But I have been home since I don't know, I've been home for five days or something like that and been able to do some glassing. I've done some camera move I moved some cameras yesterday actually, and so I've been getting some new pictures in from the cell cams. And here's what I've seen over the last couple of days. Uh. Number one yesterday while glassing, and this morning in one of my cell camp pictures, I've seen bucks still fighting. So there's still some of that running activity happening. Even though what today that we're recording, it's you know, end of November when this episode comes out, will be the first day of December. There's still that kind of running stuff happening. So there's bucks fighting. And yesterday morning, while watching down into a little field the area I could watch from above, I saw a mature buck when when I say mature, like a three year old buck, locked on on a dough still. He was like on her heart, standing over her. Everywhere she went he went. So you know, that kind of thing is is still out there. So I think that's a really important thing to take note of. Uh. The second thing I think that might be of note, at least across parts of the northern half of the country, is we just had a system moved through and drop a bunch of snow. And since that snow came through yesterday and over the last couple of days, UH, increased movement on the food sources. All my cameras that are over cut corn combined corn just blew up last night and this morning after, we had three four inches of snow dropped. So that's what I've seen so far. Um kind of what I expected this time of year. Deer moving more and more towards food, and a little bit of that late rut kind of stuff still going. Those are my kind of headlines for what I'm seeing and what I would expect for this this period. Yeah, and you mentioned snow, but it seems like following that snow, now like the day that this episode is going to drop on December one, we're gonna have, like dangiars some record breaking temperatures in the West as far as warm weather, and I know there's yeah, I know the rest of the country is seeing something similar. And when it comes to white tail hunting in the weather, I know, like we're still focused on it in October and we're so focused on in November, but I think it's sort of forgotten about when we get to December, and personally, like I'm often just checking like wind directions and I'm not caring so much about precipitation or the air temperature and things like that. But it's it's something that we should still factor into our setups. So what would you consider Mark like good weather for December and bad weather for December. Alright, So I want to preface this by saying that my perspective on how weather impacts during the late season has changed a little bit. There's been a slight evolution, and by that I mean, well, let me first answer your question. Your question was, what's like ideal late season weather, and that best case scenario is extreme cold or extreme snow, Like you want that epic winter weather, I want a thirty degree temperature trap or I want single digit temperatures or sub zero I want six inches of fresh snow, anything like that. You know, it's hard to it's hard to put guarantees on anything, but just about every time you get that kind of weather event, the deer are really going to be on their feet and they're really going to be feeding heavy earlier in the day typically. So if you get that precipitation event, if you have those really cool temperatures, you've got a great situation for deer moving just a little bit more, moving during daylight just a little bit more, and being especially interested in food at this time of year, because like right now, early December right on through the rest of the month, these deer are really doing one thing. They're recuperating from the rut, and they're trying to build up their fat reserves so they can survive the upcoming winter. So that means food, food, food, and I when they have that really cool temperatures, it's even more important because they need those calories to stay warm and to stay live. So if you've got that, I'm I'm particularly excited. Now. The opposite of that would be really high temperatures. If you have really warm, really above average temperatures, generally that is going to suppress dear movement by some degree. It's at least not going to help things. Um Now, my evolution has been this in the past, I would not hunt unless I had that really really good weather, or at least I wouldn't hunt often. I would keep my best spots untouched all the way until I had that very best weather. And in a lot of cases, I think that is a good idea. If you've got a farm that you know you just hunt, or if you have something that's managed and you know that nobody else is gonna be mucking it up, and if you can wait for those special events that you know a couple of times in the in the winter, when you have those best case scenarios and slip in and swing for the fences on that big old buck you're after, you know that's not a bad way to do it. But what I will say at the same time is that you don't want to let the weather keep you from hunting. And this is something that I've seen, you know, across the entire season. Right, weather certainly helps, but at the same time, I've seen so many days where the weather is not supposed to be good, where you know such and such deer app and such and such predictor and blah blah blah, blah blah. They're all like, oh, it's bad, it's bad, it's bad, And then you go out there and you have a great hunt. And I think what that just keeps your minding is that you know deer or wild animals, and no matter how well we think we know how they want to move and when they want to move, we don't know crap like dear or dear, and you're never gonna see him. You're never gonna have a chance unless you're out there. So while I certainly really excited when I get those really coold temperatures, and I will prioritize going to my better places. When I have those better conditions, I'm not gonna let a weekend pass and not hunt because it's above average. I'll find somewhere I can still go because you never know, So save maybe your best places for those best days, but still get out there and be in a position to maybe take advantage of, you know, a wild piece of luck you just never know. And then also remember that, you know, let the deer tell the story too. So if you can scout from afar, like I love scouting in the late season, because this isn't the time of year when I personally like to volume hunt, you know, on the rut. It's just like hunt, hunt, hunt on hunt, be out there as much as you possibly can. In the late season, I am a little bit more, um, I guess, just more careful about how many times I go and when those times are, and so I want to make sure I'm getting a good bang for my buck when I do go, so often I will try to sit on a hilltop or getting an observation, stand kind of outside of the action and watch so I'm still out there, I'm still learning something, and then I can see, okay, you know, what even though it's forty five degrees today and not so great, I saw that buck hum after step out of this little betting area four yards away, even on this day. So now I know, well, conditions to be damned, he's moving. Now I can take a swing. Same thing can go for trail cameras, especially with cell cameras these days. Put those somewhere on a food source where you can learn what they're doing, and watch those if the deer is starting to move, even on those warm days. Forget the weather, trust what you're seeing going there and hunt. Yeah, and that emphasis on doing some scouting in December, I think is really important. I killed one of my biggest bucks with a muzzloader in South Dakota. UM. I hunted really hard for like fifteen days, but a lot of those mornings, although I had a gun in my hand, I had no chance at killing a deer because I was set up so far away. I just wanted to glass what they were doing. And oftentimes what you'd see is, however deer would exit a field in the morning, you'd often see them entering the same way in that evening. And it was a way to you know, really make my evening hunts even more productive while you know, sacrificing my mornings, which which weren't going to be great quality anyways. And and that emphasis on food and evenings is something you're gonna hear about from all of our guests this week, which include David g. A Rizzo in New York, Kyler Moppert in Louisiana, Doug During in Wisconsin, and then Vince Bodiata in Tennessee. I love it. I'll tell you what I want to leave folks with one last thought, and it's this, I know that November is gone, right. We looked forward to November all year. It's this big, amped up, high anticipation event, and there's there's always, at least for me, a little bit of this um letdown. Once November is gone. This thing that we dreamed of is now in the past, and we've got to wait a whole another year to come to it again. And so for some people that leads to you know, Quentin putting in, you know, throwing it in for the year, being done hunting, or not thinking that we got any more chances left, feeling like, wow, that's it, you know, what what happened? Happened? My best chances are behind me. I just want to remind you all that we you will be wishing, you will be dreaming of these days of hunting again. A couple of months from now, you'll be sitting there thinking, man, I wish I could hunt now, but you can't because the season is closed. So while the season still open, get out there and enjoy it still and remember that anything can happen. I have had many many people have had a lot of success here in December. Several of my best Michigan bucks were killed the last few days of November, first few days of December. So there's a lot of good hunting ahead. There's still some running activity behead. This good weather like we talked about, can spur a lot of great activity. Um, So they're good times still out ahead of us. Don't miss them. Yeah, And if you need something to motivate you to get in the woods, we just had episode three of One Week in November drop on November the day before this episode comes out, so it's already up. Uh. One of us kills a buck on that episode, and then episode four or five, six, seven drops every Tuesday through the end of the year. And if you have been following along with one Week in November. You'll be interested in what's happening over at our auction house now. In this current batch of items, which are up for auction for another twelve days, we have multiple things from one Week in November. We have an entire one Week in November package that includes things that we personally use, being you, me, Tony Peterson, and Clay Nwcomb Um. And these are some unique items that you can't find anywhere else, just like everything in our auction house. So in that auction house package or the one Week in November group, you have things like Tony Peterson's bow that he used in the episode where he kills a buck. You have Clay Nuncomb's arrow that he shot through a buck that he killed. You have some things for me like my blaze orange vest which has blood on it from the deer that I killed. You have the bench made knife that I used to gout the deer. You have the first light dirt bag duffle that I hauled stuff around in. You have marks um personal tree saddle that he used in the episode. 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You're gonna see our auction house there and all you have to do is enter your email and you'll be entered to win this package. Um, so much cool stuff in there, and it's what we used on the show. And I'm not done plugging yet. Mark. We also have our reading materials for this week, which can be found in the description of this episode down below. The articles that are relevant for right now. We have how the Hunting Public finds quality public land deer hunting from Emily can Or. Emily interviews the th HP crew about locating overlooked public land across the country. And then we have three Places to find a post rut buck by you Mark Kenyon. Mark goes over three spots that you should be looking for to find a buck in early December. And then from Tony Peterson, we have how to kill a late season buck from the ground. Tony discusses how to get it done from the ground with a bow after the rut is over. I love it looks at great Slate. Highly recommend everyone follow through on that giveaway you mentioned there's some sweet stuff in there. You didn't even mention at least, and and here you mentioned the timber Ninja climbing sticks, which are world changing in my view. UM, so definitely going over and get your hands on those. That's right, I didn't even bring up all the stuff that's in there. We don't we don't have enough time. We've already gone away over in time here. But Yeah, go to the store dot media dot com entering that giveaway. Great, all right, we'll get to those reports. Talk to you next week, Mark, all right. And joining us online first is David G. A Rizzo from New York from tagging Bragg. Now, David in New York. What would you say the buckettivity has been lately on a scale of one to ten? Oh the past week? Honestly, it's it's probably been about a nine. I think the combination of a little bit of a second swing of rock coming in along with some very harsh weather up there this past year four s and the deer onto the food. Um. We we as a crew killed two bucks in the last week up there, one being our number one target buck. Shall I mean? Yeah, it's it's been on fire up there this last week and we took advantage of it. Yeah, that number one target buck you killed was an absolute slammer. Tell us about that hunt, David. Why were you in that spot and why did that buck want to be there? You know, we we haven't seen this particular r buck very much on trail camera, but watched them grow up all summer and the place that I was hunting was actually a combination of beans and corn, and we we orchestrated, we constructed this field specifically for this time of year when the conditions get harsh. We had about a foot of snow up there, and it was an absolute blizzard. When I went in and I was I was on the food. I mean, that's what I was relying on. And I knew I had hunted there the day before a lot of deer. I saw, I think almost thirty deer on this four acre little food plot, and so I knew the deer We're gonna be hitting it with the harsh conditions up there. Sometimes I joke and say, the harsher the conditions, the better opportunity you have to kill one of these big, mature New York bucks. And it paid dividends because I had probably twelve the fifteen deer in front of me, and he came out at the bottom of the food plot and was on a literally on a string, and stop up in the middle of these deer at thirty eight yards. Never in my life that I think I would shoot a buck with a bow during rifle season up in New York. But to have it be my personal best then and my first booner ever is it's insane, man, It's insane. So what other food sources would you say are relevant right now for deer hunters in that part of the country. Um beans in corn have been the hottest for us, but the deer have been hammering the turn ups as well. I mean, really, any late season food source that you know that's that you have on your property. The deer seemed to be shifting to that a lot more afternoon movement, a lot less morning movement, So our our morning hunts are probably gonna be few and far between moving forward. But the afternoons, especially when the when the weather conditions are right, are are on fire. Right now, do you notice the shift in bedding this time of year? Absolutely? We We actually are seeing a lot more of our bucks that we watched all summer shift back onto our property where we have not seen them or had trail camera pictures of them in the last month month and a half or so. So a lot of the bucks we watched grow up for the summer are shifting back. And this the buck that I shot in particular, was one of them. And like I said, the combination of the food and the harsh weather conditions are are what did it for him. Historically, in early December in state like New York, what do you notice for signmaking? You know, it's funny because the bucks actually just started to shift back to um making some scrapes and hitting some of the more primary scrapes. Other than that, it's it's nothing. The signmaking is nothing crazy. You may get, you know, a few random scrapes here popping up um, but it's it's really nothing crazy. Honestly, this time of year up in New York, the weather conditions are typically so harsh that it's it's really all about being on the food source and taking advantage of trying to get in between food in betting area, you know, to get in front of them in early December, where do you want to be running your trail cameras? In New York, we've current or we've recently shifted all of our trail cameras to field edges UM trying to pick up like trying to basically be on the best trail coming out into the food and we'll have we'll have two to three different cameras per you know, two ac or three acre food plots, so we're really trying to collect as much information as we can on those food sources, because we know different bucks that we haven't seen in a while, or maybe that we've never seen before, are moving back into these areas going forward. Then this next week or so, what do you think that BUCKETCTVT is going to be on a scale of one to ten in New York? You know what, I believe it's gonna stay high. I believe it will be probably right around an eight because look forecasting the weather for Thursday, Friday, Saturday up there, it looks like we're gonna be getting some more snow, some more cold weather. And like I said, that's that's the bread and butter this time of year is playing those weather fronts. We're gonna have another one this week. I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be out on fire again. It'll be an eight. All right, David, congrats again on the amazing deer. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me alright and joining us on the line. Next is Kyler Moppert from Louisiana. Bow hunter in Louisiana. Now, Kyler in Louisiana, what would you say the buck activities been lately on the scale of one to ten uh scale with one of ten, I probably put it at a seven right now. Um, we've got some good buck action happening with colch fronts coming through. Obviously a lot of people people in the woods with um Thanksgiving holiday and John season kicking in recently. UM, but also seeing a lot of just general daytime movements on my cameras, and then a lot of people that I know that are reporting to us are seeing a lot of daytime movement as well as putting some good uh, some good bucks on the ground. So when you're part of this state, what would you label the white tails there as this phase of the rut. Uh, they're still in pre rut. So um, kind of northeast Louisiana is gonna be pre rut. I think main rut for O this area is going to be in the next week or two UM. And then a lot of the majority of the state areas six is a big area that's gonna be UM heavy rut at the end of December beginning of January. That's when I would say at least fifty of the state is rutting in that point in time. So right now we're in kind of like signmaking stage starting to see a lot of a lot of scrapes, a lot more rubs, rub lines. And because of that, and I guess the bucks are setting their territories. I'm getting a lot more action in the daytime and at night. UM. Honestly, just very consistent daytime sorry, consistent camera um movement, Whereas up until this point it's been very it's either been nocturnal or crepuscular UM, with very little daytime or midday movement. If you're doing some in season scouting right now in Louisiana, what are some things that you're looking for? Uh? UM. Well, by now all of the white oaks are are are done dropping, UM, which is always a little a little sad because that's just such a heavily preferred food source early season through UM through maybe the first half of November, middle of October, the first half of November. UM. Right now I'm getting a lot of action on um. Uh. Red oaks and pin oaks, UM. Those are gonna drop from about now and to the end of the season. UM. And then a lot of the brows is starting to kind of clear out. We're not it's not you get into an area with a lot of deer sign you'll see a little um uh uh, every every top of every brows has been snipped off or eating by now. So I think that also has a lot to do with why deer moving more frequently. They don't have to move fifty yards to eat and go back late lay down, They've got to move a couple of hundred or something like that. So UM, right now, it's still um, still good to set up on food source um features and oak flats things like that. UM. But if you've got travel routes that are trails where you know a buck or dose are using heavily, that's and something that's in between food sources and travel route, then that's a great place to set off set up on. Currently, you mentioned that daylight activity has been increasing. Do you notice better movement right now in the mornings or evenings in Louisiana. I'm seeing on camera Me personally, I'm seeing better morning movement when hunting. I'm seeing more dear in the evening. Um. Now, that's been very average for me My whole hunting career is because obviously you're getting in trying to set up in the dark and the light and make noise, and you don't know what you're pushing out of an area when you go in in the morning. So um. But as far as activity goes more, morning has been hot, but afternoons are are are still my favorite time hot. Um and they're they're both productives in early December. Where do you want to be running your trail cameras? Um? Well, I started doing something new in the last two years that's worked out well for me um as I've become a little more educated on scrapes, UM and signmaking. I'm actually trying to position my cameras not directly on scrapes, but I would get more daytime photos of bucks being downwind a baby to fifty yards behind a scrape along what could be a travel route or away in which a buck would try and get down wind of a scrape. So anywhere that's a a slew edge, a swamp edge, lake edge, whatever you want to say. Um, that could be downwind from a scrape or or some sort of signmaking or even betting. Um. I'm seeing the most quality bucks in the daytime downwind of very literal, real sign you know. I used to be in the habit of hanging cameras right on top of a scrape like like it's the Truman Show, and I'm always waiting for that star to show up, and I wouldn't get anything to three in the morning. And then I started putting cameras around that area, on travel routes or pinch points or like I said, boundary lines like water, and I'm getting a lot more pictures. And those d are still checking those, but they're just wind checking them from doubt. They're not going up and peeing in them and reinfreshing them up during the day. A lot of times they're just walking down wind and staying in the thick stuff. So I've always been a fan of putting cameras on um water boundaries if you have that, which we had a lot of down here um and uh and and and seeing those deer that are skirting the edges, trying to stay in the thick stuff or in the buckbrush or something without exposing themselves out in the open. Going forward, then the six week or so, what do you think that bucket t D is going to be on a scale of one detain in Louisiana. I think it's gon to stay a seven UM for the next week or two UM and then quickly rise up to an eight as we get some more cold attempts and Christmas gets closer and that prod action heats up big time and we start to get a lot of rut action going. So I'm gonna stick with the seven for the next week. Alright, Kyler, great intel, good luck with the rest of your season. Thanks for joining me. Thanks Spencer, all right and joining us on the line. Next is Doug During, who you've seen and heard on Meat Eater and Wired to Hunt content in Wisconsin. Now, Dug in Wisconsin, what would you say the buck activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten, Well, Spencer, I think we'd be at about a three or four. We just finished our nine day gun season and with that big disruption, bucks have given up on breeding and are more concerned about security and um, you know, refueling from the from the rut um. So the definitely the activity, the bucket activity, the rud activities. So lay down now, you just killed a great buck last week with your rifle. Tell us about that hunt. Why were you in that area and why did that buck want to be there? Well, it's an isolated area on the farm and it's a soybean uh field on the neighbors. And I was up there checking on a stand and as I came up around it's one of those areas that you creep up into, and about three yards away, I see this deer and it's clearly a buck. I could see his antlers from that distance. Um. I was there checking that field, hoping to take an ant list deer, and and there he is, working his way from a betting area out along the edge of being field. And I watched him for ten minutes as he kept working closer and closer to me, and he was completely distracted by eating those beans. He wasn't aware of me at all, And there was good reason for him to have been aware of me, because it's a spot work we all often killed deer from. So it's really interesting to see that it was very windy day, and I think that had something to do with it too, that you know, he could probably couldn't hear much now. Obviously to stay like Wisconsin big egg is really important to focus on in December. But what are some natural food sources, Doug that you've noticed that white tails key in on this time of year. Well, we don't have any snow on the ground right now, and we're seeing a lot of activity late in the day, um, where the deer are picking up on you know, the green that's on the edge of the fields, and then they're in those brush and bottoms and areas where they can do a lot of browsing as well. Are you seeing any signmaking right now on those field edges? I not a lot. I mean you'll see that a scrape will get tended, like a hubscrape will will have some activity in it. But um, from my cameras and stuff, I'm not seeing a whole lot of of scrapes and and that sort of thing following with sconsin's gun season. Do you notice the shift in bedding it all on your property? Well, and not so much with the does. Um. The antalyst here seemed to like those those thermal covers, like we've got some pine plantations and stuff like that. But um, we do certainly notice that the bucks are a little more Uh, they're down in bottoms and heidi holes, and you know they're they're looking for security. If you're doing a morning set up in early December, what does that look like? I know, obviously your evening setups gonna be looking over a food source, but what does the morning set up look like for you in Wisconsin? Well, we had a successful muzzleloader hunt yesterday morning, and my friend Eric Cannony and his wife were up and uh the dose, dose and funds came out of hardwoods and they were heading into bedding in a pine plantation. They caught him in between, and we were set up for that. If you got to choose your ideal weather forecast for December, dog, what is it that you'd be looking for. Well, I'd like a little less wind. I'd like to have some snow on the ground and those temperatures, um that we can all stand. I'm not a guy who likes to have it real cold. Um. If I could have snow on the ground and temperatures in the twenties and low thirties, I'd be real happy going forward. Then, in the next week or so, what do you think that buckettv is going to be on a scale of one to ten in Wisconsin. I think it's gonna still be down in that three to four range. But with a few days of calming, um, we may uh pick up again. You know, another another round of of breeding happening here in December. Also, all right, Doug, congrats again on the great buck. Thanks for joining me. Thank you, Spencer, happy to be here all right and joining us on the line. Last is Vince Bodyatta from the Chasing Public YouTube channel in Tennessee. Now, Vincent, Tennessee. What would you say the buck activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten. Uh, lately, I would say it's probably around anywhere between a six to seven. UM, I would definitely say it's it's past the peak breeding portion. UM. But no question, you can definitely catch a cruiser person around right now. Now, you just killed a great buck on Thanksgiving a day tell us about that hunt. Why were you in that area? And why did that buck want to be there? Uh? Yeah, it was man, That's That's definitely what I'll never forget. UM. You know that spot we actually scouted really hard during the summertime, and uh, we had a lot of good a lot of good bucks around. UM. It looked like it had just not really been that pressured. UM. Didn't see a lot of human sign or anything like that. UM. So it's definitely a spot that we were keeping our eye on. UM. And it had a lot of good just natural food sources around there. So I knew it was going to be a spot UM that I could pick up on the latter half of the season, and UM, I just thought, you know, it was Thanksgiving Day, it had been raining all day. I figured, you know, there's probably wasn't any pressure there in the morning. UM, and we just decided to hang out there, and you know, whitetailed. Luck, it just happened. It was it just it just turned on in the right way. Earlier in the season, we did hunt that spot a few times, but we did end up having a lot of pressure there, so we kind of backed off it. And and now it just seems like they just kind of filtered back in in late November, early December and Tennessee. Do you notice better movement in the morning or evening? I would say, if you have the food sources in the evening, UM, if not, then I would probably hunt the mornings right now. And what food sources are relevant right now in that part of the country. Anything green, just natural brows, you know, clover that type of up. If you have the hot the um the hot acorn spots so there's still acorns left over, I would definitely be on those. UM. But anything green you mentioned it had been raining when you killed that buck. What is the idea weather that you're looking for in December in Tennessee. In December in Tennessee, I'm looking for where you have, um, like a three or four days stretch of just constant temperature and then if it gets you know, even a drop of you know, seven to ten degrees being this far south, it's enough to be considered like a cold front or a cold snap. Um. And that really seems to be to be putting deer on the feet. If you're doing some in season scouting this time of year, what are some things that you're looking for. I'm looking for big tracks, big tracks, fresh tracks, um. And I'm looking for the actual concentrations of deer now that we're already past the actual peak reading season or a portion of the season, I'm looking for those concentrations to do. I feel like if I can find those concentrations to deer, then you know, as far as success, right, I'll just end up being more successful just in general as far as being able to harvest more meat. Historically, when we get beyond that peak breading day, what do you notice for signmaking in Tennessee. I do notice once we start coming into December, Um that I will start to get more and more bucks coming back through and checking on their on their normal scrape patterns. Um. You know there's a portion of there through November where they just stopped. Once you come into December, they do start checking those. Um. But I really focus more on the food side and then the signmaking to be honest, once it comes into December. Going forward, then in the next week or so, what do you think that budget activity is going to be on a scale of one to ten in Tennessee, I'd say it's probably anywhere between afford six and a half. There's better parts of Tennessee where it is very mountainous and I'm not too familiar on that side, but where I'm at in middle Tennessee where the train is a little more approachable. Um, it just seems during that time, once we into December, if you can find the concentration to deer, you're still gonna get your good boys. You may not get that one slammer that comes through, but you're still gonna have quality deer that comes through our advanced Congrats again on the great Deer. Thanks for joining me all right, man, appreciate the suncer and that concludes this week's episode of Wired to Haunt's rout Fresh Radio. Thanks to David Kyler, Doug in Vince for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. As a reminder, you can find this week's reading materials linked in the description of this episode, as well as a link to the one Week in November gear package giveaway again that is totally free to enter, and if you go there and enter your email address, you're going to be in the running for a whole bunch of great gear that you saw us us in one week in November. As we've heard many big buck killers say, the late season can be the great season. So I hope you're still out there and still after some white tails, and I will talk to you next week, but until then, stay Wired to hun