00:00:00 Speaker 1: I'm Casey and and you're listening to the Element podcast. You here, ye here, ye oh no, welcome all. What's people? This is another version of the Element podcast where we use old English and k King James person. I'd like to call the Keen James Podcast by the Element. Yeah, so you're talking about Lebron or yeah, that one. He's the best. I'm trying to think of other like famous James Is, and I can't really think of too many. I guess James crying because he just got dump. He is the most famous of the james Is for sure. Oh what's that day's name? Jamis is not a little different? Yeah, that's different? U. No, Krispy kream' is that guy? He turned himself to Froggy Fresh or something because he got Crispy Kream came after him. Order copyrighted man man. Copyrights and trademarks are tough, right, y'all. Don't be trying to try to be the Element, because where will come after you? Okay? That's like, uh, you know the the the Robertson's. They had that show Duck Dynasty, right and now they have this like unashamed podcast that they do and they're doing a new show um called like Duck Diggers or something, but Duck Family is that the something like that Duck Family Treasure or something. Okay, I thought that might have been a knockoff, and I was like, what is now there? They Jason has gotten into like metal detecting and historical stuff. So I've heard it's a really good show. But they when they refer to their to the Duck Dynasty days, they can't say Duck Dynasty. So they have to say on the podcast, they have to say our first Duck show. That's how they have to say about that. Yeah, so it's it's weird man, And that stuff has been like, they haven't been doing that stuff in a while. I wonder how long that stuff last. Is called a statute of limitations, is that right? Maybe because they can like they can release certain seasons in certain episodes because I guess their contract is five years or ten years or whatever it is. If you're a loyal Element fan follower of ours, uh, and you're a lawyer, send us a message because we have some questions for you. We have lots of questions. We need some lawyer advice, especially it's free man. We'll give you some map scouting stuff for free, which by the way, you can actually get a really good deal on some maps scouting advice through the Element. If you go to our website, the element wild dot com, you'll see right off the bat a event ticket. Now, we've had some discussion about whether this ticket actually takes seven days to ship or not. It's an e ticket, So once you sign up for the ticket for the event, you like, we have your name and there will be like a checklist, so it's not like you have to bring a ticket or anything, but it is your essential ticket to this event that we're putting on this weekend. Um, that's we need you to go. Okay, we will have the ability for people to do a walk up type thing where you can you know, pay admission or whatever when we get there and it's not a big deals thirty bucks and it's gonna pay for itself, but you may not get much food though, yeah exactly where food is gonna go first to the people who order. But that's what we need is we need you to get on and um, as many as of you as you can go ahead and order your ticket. That way we can let the caterer know like how much food to have. Yeah. Yeah, so that's kind of what we're trying to figure out food the situation more anything. That's why we're trying to get tickets and head counts ahead of time. So, uh, this event is going to be really awesome. Um, it's July. A lot of guys aren't thinking about white tails yet too much, and so, um, you know, depending on how many people actually show for this thing, you might have a really really good chance to win some really cool stuff. Gosh, dude, how much y'all been adding stuff without me? And I'm like, man, this is a little bit much. Yeah. We Uh so Chad Rice or friend from Cruiser who owns Cruiser saddles, has decided he wants to send a Cruiser saddle to somebody who we decide needs a Cruiser saddle. So if you show up at this event, you are automatically entered. You'll get one ticket. And this is me not running the spot case. You get one ticket when you when you sign up, UM a like raffle ticket right, and that's one way that you can win this saddle. Um, and then we will sell some raffles as well to there. So if you got the electric cash you want to bring it up your chances of winning a saddle. You can also win, um that might be the like the highest dollar auto for sure, Like that's a big deal. I didn't ask Chad because I didn't want him to give away something, but he offered. He's like, hey, that seems like a cool event you'll have. You want to give away a saddle? There some saddle hunters there. Yeah, So since you're talking about the raffling system, I you want to tell everybody the other stuff? Are you Are you in the running for all the stuff or do you have to pick the thing you put your first, your single ticket question. I think I think we probably will just do it all at once. I think so too. I think you have a chance of winning a lot of stuff. So like you, if you buy tickets, then you have a chance of winning any of the listed stuff that I'm about. The list, So the cruiser saddle obviously, Uh, first Light is sending some stuff. Um, let me check on what that is right now. You have to be a large though, you have to be large about Actually he said they would replace, um, you know, like send, we can replace, can change, exchange, That's the word I'm looking for, trying to find you're doing two things and once. Yeah, so they're gonna have send a bunch of large stuff just because that's what a lot of us are, um, Catalyst, jacking and bibbs. So if you're interested in that kind of good stuff, good stuff, that's the that's the stuff that we have, I believe is it Eric. Eric's here, but he's on on things. Catalyst is like a little bit warm, right, yeah, So it's Catalyst is the stuff that you're gonna need. He knows Texas a full season, you know. That's that's like you go in that cooler at the back of the gas station, that's what you need in there. But uh yeah, so like it's pretty much your added layer. That's the only one you'll ever need in Texas. And that's like a full set up for that outer. So we're doing this in Texas. It's an Austin so uh first light though, sending those two things. Moultrie is gonna send a cell camera. So what we'll do is that they we'll have some cams there if you to look at. But um, they're gonna we'll get the winner's information and have Multrie sent it directly to them. Foe free. Uh Vector is gonna donate some arrows. Um, maybe like three or four, uh, but we don't know for sure. Now they've got they've got plenty of arrows, so we'll probably give away uh some hammers and some zimmers. Yeah, that'd be cool and um some chance to win, doesn't of them? Yeah, any of that stuff that's individually particular. We'll just have examples of there. Like with the Moultries, they have um different service options and so you can pick which one you want. So we won't have your camera there, but they'll get it sent to your A S out if you're an A T and T guy or Vector or Verizon guy or whatever. Also they've got some really interesting things on the front. Just yeah, I thought about it too. Just be ready. Yeah. Um, anyway, on X, how are we doing the on X giveaway stuff? Do you know? I don't actually know. I need to talk to Jared about this because I think that everybody that shows up is going to get some amount of on X and then we might do like there might be like a multi year, multi state type thing to give away and with some on X like swag. So um, so on X is helping us put this thing on. They're been very helpful. You may have seen, um you through their stuff that we are doing this, so we appreciate their support in this. And those are the things that we're going to be giving away. There are things we're gonna be doing as well besides just sitting there giving stuff away. But we're gonna we're gonna say, we'll have a dinner. While we're kind of eating dinner, we're gonna be showing uh, never before seeing footage except by us, we've seen. It's real good, real good footage of Casey shooting Oklahoma Buck and it is a cool video. So that'll be before anybody else sees it. It'll be releasing probably a month or two, probably two months later, so you'll get a chance to see that before, way before anybody else. Yeah, that's the dinner in the movie portion. So, um, this event, we are pretty much getting you to cover catering for us, and we're paying for the you know, the event center and all that stuff. It's at Cabelle's, but it's thirty dollars a ticket, right, so imagine dinner in the movie is gonna costume more than that. So it's uh, it'll be a fun thing for maybe your significant other. Two, if you're in Austin, you're like or you know, around and you're like, your wife's like, listen, it's not hunting season yet, and we need to spend some time together. We're like, well, let's go hang out with my cool fun friends that and you know, watch a movie just so happens. It's a hunting movie. And you know, I get a chance to win something that I can I won't have to buy season, you know. So I mean, I mean there's so much stuff that we're giving away. Who knows, Like there may not actually be anybody at leaves without something at this thing shouldn't be I mean between all on X especially, and I think as far as I know, everybody will get a single state on X membership that shows up, so you should be good on that. So then we're gonna do a little Q and A session so you kind of ask anything you want. Um. Actually that may be the way we wrap this thing up. But we're gonna do some map scouting um stuff, so kind of show you what we do. How we break down a map where we go if we go out of state, Like how do we start? Where do we start? And then we're gonna narrow in and show you some stuff and then through that, basically the Q and A is wrapped into like it's open floor for you guys to ask questions and for us to deliver the best answers that we can. And uh, I always like to pose these type things as, um, maybe y'all aren't asking the experts, but instead you are putting a question out there for the floor, and maybe Tyler and I have the first chance to answer, and then we will be like anybody else have anything else to say about that? Because uh, we always like to say we we're hiring experience, pretty low on expertise. You know, we've done a lot of stuff so we can give you our point of view. But you know, that was one of the things that's the it's kind of like a passive way of being success. While we did that fails video here all back, but last year at our meet up event, we had quite a few people show up and that was like one of my favorite parts was the Q and A part because it turned into that where people were like, well, you know, I've done that too and all this, and you know it's like I guarantee these you know, we just put out a stick video too. And there's a lot more guys that know a lot more about sticks and daisy chains than I do. You know, I didn't even know that thing. The I knew versus traps for a thing, but I didn't know that's what that thing was called. Let me just tell you it's semantics. Because I looked up daisy chain. The first thing that came up was that strap. So that's it is a Yes, it's a daisy chain. It's right, It's just made of strap. It's like, yeah, you know, it's like an automotive or automotive, automotive or a car. You know. People can say all the cars on the road, right, yeah, all the cars on the road, and some of them are trucks. Okay, we understand that those are vehicles. Okay, it's okay. It's kind of like people in the South saying I want to coke and they really want to Dr Pepper. You know, it's like, which is a cooke product? So you know, is it really? Yeah, I didn't know that Dr peppers. Yeah it's coke. Yeah, for sure. It hasn't always been water Burger too, dude, I'm a PEPSI man. I've decided recently good, dude. I was a pepsi kid growing up. Yeah, me too. Yeah, pop had PEPs because I remember when when they went from red, white and blue to like the straight like dark blue can. It was like a big deal. Strange Shack made it cool. Man, Are you old enough to remember? I know you are asking people to remember when they redesigned the mouths on aluminium cans. They used to be kind of more thumb shaped, but now they're kind of wide, you know, the thing that pops open or whatever. I think it was like they did something like that and now all alluinium cans. Oh, I was drinking pepsis and nice to who One time my dad, I don't do that. This is actually gonna sega real nicely. And my next talking point. One time my dad um filled a pepsi can up with water and gave it to me and I almost threw up because it was that whole like just not what you expected. Thinks. Yeah, your mind can't handle it. No, it's weird, dude, I was talked. We talked about this last night we got home. My kids wanted to watch the new Dude Perfect Right, and it was turned into like a do perfect Ben session and they were eating like they one of they bring these these items to like the table, right and uh, show show and they vote on whether it's good or not. Well, one of them brought ice cream in, like a KFC bucket that was shaped like like fried chicken. So when you when you pick it up, it looks like a piece of fried chicken. You buite it, it's crunchy, but it's ice cream on the inside. And they were their minds were warping on that stuff, you know. So I was like, I told my wife last I was like, you know what, I can relate because if I were, like if I ever get a powdered bottle full of water or something like that drinking, I can't understand what this is. So yeah, that's you know, we we actually watched uh are we watched enlist. I listened to Ted talk yesterday on UM. I can't remember the lady's name, but it's like on kind of the corruption within the food system and yeah, yeah, so there's you've been talking a lot about seed oils a lot um and trying to cut those out of your diet and uh. Anyway, this lady, she was real dramatic, you know, She's like a. She's pretty good at speaking public speaking and making her point and being dramatic, but like basically she was just talking about how much, like how much intrusion there is into the American food system for like um weed killers and insecticides, and it's a real big thing. And do people are dogging on glass of figure right now? Bad? Which I mean it sounds like there's a good reason, but it's like that's big in the news, right yeayeah, somebody somebody to report recently. I think Rogan post Mark Ken you just posted about it too. It's like eight thing Rogan post Mark's gonna repeat, So Mark, I hope you're not listening. Fishing. He ain't got time for the thinkt almost fish almost public water fish. It was like it's like an man, I caught a tin pounder, but it's really like if I caught I would call it a test for anyways, he's gonna hate us if he hears this. Um So, anyway, where was that at? Oh? Yeah, so they were saying like of people you're in testing, had glaphy sate in there? You're in or whatever? You I'm not I used to your intest Oh yeah, what are you? What are what we're using like some word play there or something. What was it you're intesting you're in testing. Yeah, I'm not intesting that. I'm not not out of testing. Uh but yeah, so anyway that I thought that was interesting. But there's a lot of yeah, you're you're right, there's a lot of people like dog on that. But it's really it's weird because from what this lady says, I'm just taking like who even knows what is real anymore? You know? I think that's the point of a TED talk. It's it's like you the idea is, which I don't know that much about him, so maybe I'm wrong, um, but the idea is like this person is passionate about something and you're listening to what they have to say about it. So it's not like that. You don't have to sit your stuff on TED talks and what I understand, right, Yeah, that's exactly right. It's like where is this coming from? But apparently she had done a bunch of you know, looking at I guess F D A or U s d A stuff that's informative for sure. Yeah. That's the thing is like, dude, did the the what's supposed to be the authority is is who knows anymore? You know what I mean exactly? The authority is well, never mind, that's gonna get as fired. Yeah, okay, so they But for real, like the the um, this is the fact that it's food and drug administration. If you really want to look at how those two things should not be associated. What about t ABC Yeah, tobacco, alcohol and beverage alcoholic method. It's like, why what does tobacco I have to do with alcohol? Yeah? So coke? So there. Anyway, she was saying something along lines like other countries in the world because of demand, like say Coke for instance. I'm not trying to call any names out here, but I'm just saying, like, for instance, make an example, say Coke might be one of these big food producers. They would like not put dies and stuff in their products because in other countries, like the general citizen like rejects dies like just through you know, it being fake or whatever, and so like they can't sell it if they have dies in it, like, it won't sell. So the demand is not there for it. So they'll take it out and then they'll sell it because it's sugar water and it's somewhat natural, you know what I mean, So give it to me. Yeah. So, like I I just I found that really interesting. It's like, it's why we like Mexican cokes. Yeah, and if you're not from where we are, that's not a like a racially degrading thing. And they are made in Mexico. They're Mexican cokes because they're made with ain sugar and not made with high fruit does corn sirum so your body he just does better on it on your taste good. Yeah, and they don't make you feel bad. Yeah, you know. That's the thing, is like it's a it's not such a processed or foreign And that's another point she was making, is like that there's so many food allergies these days because the foreign products that are put into food, and they're put in there for the sake of and people are probably bored, but I'm just saying, like they're put in there for the sake of, you know, production. Basically it just helps production and and it helps margins and stuff, and so it's I don't know, it's very interesting, but a lot of us is subsidies more than margins. But yeah, I could go on and on about this stuff. So we probably shouldn't. You're right, people are getting bored some sorry, So so yeah, anyway, but um, we we were looking at that we're on so that we were on the way back from a trip, and that's one thing we were talking about. And we're also talking about the elon Twitter thing, which is um interesting in its own right. Have you seen anything recently haven't? I just saw that it's like he rejected the deal or something. Yeah, so apparently they're gonna sue him and they, like Bloomberg says that it's like it's highly like or it's likely that he will still have to buy Twitter. They'll like force him to buy Twitter. I don't know how that works, how that stuff works, but like I guess because of some kind of almost like defamation or something. It's weird. Yeah, So the last thing I had seen is that um, and this is recent to might be just a different perspective, but something was saying that um Ellen might get Twitter for a lower price because all the boats or or something. Yeah, I don't really know what's going on. I don't know. That's what Kylie Rados from like a couple of days ago, three days ago or something like that. But anyway, those are those are the two things we were we were digging on yesterday as we were driving back from Amarillo. Um, we actually weren't an m a little very long longer than expected. Yeah. Yeah, we worked and we'll talk about that in a minute. But a couple of weeks ago, you and I went up to um Illinois, Illini and that's uh, Eric's home state over there. Just pumping his fist, he's, uh, he's actually from Indiana, Illinois and Ohio. Right, that's right, central, central, yeah, central, western, eastern Yeah yeah, uh no, he's uh, you're from You're from central Illinois, but Eastern Illinois universities where you live? Yeah, we should I give you a headset. I'm sorry. It's either Chicago or Central right, Yeah, yeah, it's it. Nobody want does anybody want to be considered from southern Illinois? Okay, all right, so there are some proud Southern Illinois's out there. I've been to southern Illinois once. What does a what does an Illinois person called like a Texan ill and I Illinois in I think it's an ell and I in Alanna, I'll Illan I Elana. Yeah, yeah, that it's it's like a racial thing that I can't believe they let him get away with that. Now, Yeah, that's so wrong, dude. Um so it is. Yeah, we were in Illinois, It's right. Yeah, we uh so we were. We spent some time doing I don't know, we may have hashed this out already. Of if we did, I'm sorry. We've been back and forth and crazy, you know, doing our thing. But we've been evan and flowing evan. Uh. We we went to beast mode, which was like this uh event where dudes like train all year for this thing. Apparently because we were we were bad way behind, right and I and I can I can tell you right now when I talked about the rest of the story here in a little bit, you'll like, I was, I'm in pretty decent shape right now. I've I've come to find out. And I was like third to last in this event, which I could have I could have pushed harder. I was just having just out there to FINISHIP basically hanging out with you and Isaac and everything. But yeah, and uh, I mean, I'm not trying to give myself a handicap. But one of us had forty pounds in their pack and one of us didn't too, so, um, you know, like, I can't, dude, did those people really have forty pounds in their pack that we're going that they were hauling? These dudes were These dudes are weird, dude, I'm telling you they were there. There's a lot of them listening right now. So are we mean weird in a good way? Yeah? No, yeah, weird like weirdly okay, yeah, yeah, we're like we spend too much time getting in shape here. No, it's it's a good thing because it feels good to be in shape. But um, anyway, they were, they were kicking it, man, and uh, we did that whole thing and it was fun. We we actually had quite a bit of fun shooting the three D course. I felt like we did we Uh. I shot real well early on. I got kind of tired and didn't shoot as well at the end. And then the last one we shot was a sheep at like fifty five yards uphill real Steve and I kept hitting left, um, which was weird because I was using my bubble and everything. Um, actually shot a better shot when I didn't use my bubble, Like when I just felt like I was good, you know what I mean? It means your third excess is off on your potentially the side. This year, I'm gonna take my boat at the Bowshop, saying because I got a few things that I gotta get tuned up before we go. Um, but we've we've been pretty hard on him with the traveling dude. That's the thing. I just don't know. I mean, I had a serious issue that wasn't the Bow's fault, uh about a month ago that it was just from mistreatment from some somebody. I don't think it was me, not blaming anybody, but it's just like a thing that can happen or whatever. But uh so it's good I think to do that. You know, you hate to be the cliche guy who shows up the shop right four to your season. Um, but like it's good to do like a little bit of a check up almost, you know, make sure everything's good. Yeah. Well I think the Bowshop appreciates that more than a full from the ground up. Yeah for real. But anyway, so we went from the beast mode deal after we oh the answer by me that we went to uh. Um, we were hanging out with Isaac from Vector and we we um spent a lot of time with them had a good time, went to um Illinois. Isaac has helped us, and we worked our way into some access. We helped a farmer build a horse, uh, barn stall, whatever you wanna call it. Um So, we kind of got that going for him and went and got lumber form and everything, and basically, over the course of a couple of days of working on that thing, earned some some access to a really awesome farm. I think it's gonna be awesome. It gets hounted a little bit, but I don't think it's been gun honted in a long time. And there definitely are some big deer around. Um So, Casey and I and Isaac all went um kind of scouting around and kind of gathered of thoughts one afternoon, and then the next afternoon, after we got done building some stuff, we went and put out five cameras, five Moultrie Delta's Delta base. Delta base, that's right. Yeah, So the base UM we've been using here at home this spring and summer, actually used it last. We used it in Oklahoma. We did We got like some of the first bases available and put them out and one of them is still going in Oklahoma, going strong. We have been super impressed with that camera. So, uh, you know, admittedly from Moultrie the Delta had a couple of bugs and uh, they aren't weren't real happy with that, and they actually switched manufacturers, uh now because the other people didn't really want to do anything about it. So Multrie will they're doing something. And I don't want to go too off into that, but if you have problems with your original Delta, reach out and they'll help you a little bit. Yeah, but the base Man has been awesome. They're taking great pictures. I can't complain about it. I don't have anything too bad to say. It's wild, it's really it's really good. So we we put five of those up in Illinois, and you know, it's summertime, it's hot, like the deer have food everywhere, no reason for him to move too much. And we've gotten quite a few deer pictures and recently got to shooter bucks on video or on camera, and we're gonna we're gonna be posting those. So if you are listening to this checking our instagram, you can see those sometime soon this week. And what's the shooter that's a good question, but I think I think of I'll speak for all of us here and say that a poping, young class deer something that will gross one or better. I know it's net something that'll gross one better is kind of the thing. I think. There's also, um, this is kind of a weird deal. But like I think there's also a little bit of fly shared success. So if if you shoot at deer, I might hold out for a little bit bigger one just because it's like, I feel like we did something. Now let's hold out. But it also depends on like what we see on the cameras, right, Like if uh, if the cameras are showing aren't showing any bigger deer and they're mostly just kind of poper's around that, then I'll be glad to dude, I love shooting hunter points. I think that is awesome. That dude, it's cool. It's we're gonna have to have a lot of camera data for me to really understand what a shooter is because this place is a lot different than anything we really get to do very much. You know, we're gonna travel a lot this fall in like you, most of the places we go, you just know a shooter when you see, Yeah, this is gonna be a lot different. We're gonna have data and we're gonna have like an understanding of potential. It's all that's weighing in. But I can tell you this, like next size plays in a lot for me on this stuff, man like, And I don't want to say age class because I can't. Dude, I'm not from northern Illinois. I can't tell you the difference in a four and a five year old. But I can tell you when a buck is bucky, you know, and like he might be a one, but he's kind of pencil neck, which means he's probably younger. You know that, I'm probably like you know, But dude, a one eight teen rolls through, he's an eight point with mass and short g three's Oh, it's going down. I'm telling you, I'm getting hot right now. I can't wait. It's we've got to like. So we've got two on on camera right now. One is a is a big eight. Now it's hard to tell with velvet, and also it's still early to mid July, so who knows what he's gonna end up being. But he's got like a big enough frame to potentially get to that one for market. And I think that's a toad. Yeah. Um. And then we've got another one who has like this kind of like his G three and four are real close together and it kind of makes for like almost like a mass ball on that side. It is cool, he's potentially gonna be really big. Yeah. You know what's neat about that deer is he get he has all that extra mass there and that side isn't lacking in beam length because of that. It's like, deer do this thing and I'm noticing this. Um, Like with a deer we have locally on camera that we aren't gonna get to hunt sadly, um, but uh, we get to see him a lot because they're all hunting there. Um. He's got some extras on one side and that's making I don't think that that side is going to score that much more than his other side because it's kind of making his beam shorter. Is overall time links a little shorter on that side. Just he's growing about the same amount of antler on each side. But then you got deer like that deer we've got in Illinois, it's just like the extras are extras, Like he has a regular frame and then just so happens some stuff is yeah, added on weird man. You know the world record buck from a few years back that was killed Illinois, like one side scored outrageous. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's weird how they can, like northern deer like that can do that sometimes. But it's because that deer is standing in a field of protein. Yep, so like the antler potentials to the max big that's exactly what it is if they ain't eating the seeds that much. But dude, don't know, don't get me started. Actually pretty conflicting for me. I know, because I thought, I've thought the only reason there's so many soybean fields is because of the seed oil industry, and like if we stop doing that, then the deer don't have as much food. I don't want to be sad. And is pretty high protein it is. I would love to plant some mouth alfa, but anna enough we can get in the field. We're in a major drought. Like okay, here's another question for you. We're talking about conspiracies here. The if you look at the drought monitor map for the US, right, so stupid we're like an orange or like dark yellow or something. It's because they do it over a time span, and it's like a year, like it's a year to date or it's years even. Okay, So like you can see some of the stuff that actually they have had a little more rain than us, and they're in a worst drought than we are. And it's because well over the last thirty six months they've only gotten it's not precipitation, but rains a lot, all the grass from this spring that's new. All it needs is the annual precipitation, you know what I mean exactly, So, like it doesn't matter that you were in a drought. I mean, what matters. I guess the reason they do that is because of like Colorado River water uh system and stuff like, because that feeds a lot of people, right so, but like for the for the actual habitat of animals and for hate production and stuff like that. It's different. Rain is what have you done for me lately? And it ain't done nothing for us in East Texas where we live. And I don't know if it's that this way, you know, a couple of hours south or whatever, but like, um, the last substantial rain that we got was maybe April, maybe early May, I can't remember, but we haven't your house especially. We had a heat shower of my house a couple of weeks back. It got a little bit, but like at your house, I bet you there hasn't been like over a sixteenth inch of a rain in two months. Due we had we had to pop up one afternoon and the water droplets didn't cover the ground like they're like you could see in the sand dust or whatever that like, there was still dry spots all between the rain. So it means nothing. It doesn't that more doesn't make it anywhere and evaporates right away. Yeah, it's is. It's bad, y'all. Like it's so bad that I've got a little, uh like a little beady pond on my place that deer and hogs have always used. It's never been dry really. Um. Me and Eric just took back a syrup tub with a bunch of five gallon buckets of water and filled up the syrup tub to put back there because it is bone dry and they're still deer like using my property. But I don't know where the nearest water is, and so I'm trying to give them something, you know, because I mean it's at the point where like fawns and stuff like they're getting milk water and so those doughs are going through a lot of water consumption, probably like the fund If they dry up, funds are dead, you know what I mean. Or they're gonna die soon, or if the fonds can't get to water, they're gonna do. That's the weird thing about deer from what I understand. And I'm not a biologist, but like humans, you know, we have uh, I guess empathy or whatever you might call it, some of us do. That's the whole other political thing. But and it shouldn't even be political, but uh, you know, a good mother human will like die and father for their baby. A deer gets to a point where it's like, okay, I have to abandon you know, um this fawn so that I survive. And it's it's an animalistic thing. It's survival of the species, you know, And that's the way you do it, live on, live on to have more babies. Survival of the fittest kind of thing. And the fittest animal is the one that a cow it won't take down. And a little bitty deer doesn't matter how healthy it is, you can get eaten by a cow. It real quick. So it's like, well, sorry, you don't get to make it, um because you allow me and are allowed and we can get to we can get to that point real quick right now, man, Like, if we don't get something within the next month, it's gonna be rough. And what's what people don't understand also their listening them, is that it ain't just no rain. We're having a hundred degree and over every day. Every day. It's there's hundred sevens in the in the forecast. And it's not like it ain't Arizona dry heat. This is this is sweltering heat. This is bad stuff. So the other weird thing, which we've had a reprieve from recently is that we're having nights that didn't get below eighty, which is hot. Hot, Like there's some people who are having eighties as highs in the summer, like in New Hampton. Like, oh that's great, you know, but uh, we're not even getting that at night. And uh compounding right, because energy costs go up because your air con insurance to run all night, which you know, Um, I don't know. It's it's wild, dude. We gotta get something different, something's gonna change. You've got something different recently because you all decided to go hide out a little while. Yeah, we went to Colorado. That's why we're in Rilla. Um, because Colorado in real is not in Colorado, but in real is the way. It's halfway, but we're still in our own state and it's halfway. Actually it's further than halfway depending on where you're going. It's way further than halfway to Colorado. Um. I always thought about Amarilla being halfway as to our final destination from where we used to hunt. And it's pretty holloway we all used to hunt. It is a long way, Like it ain't even halfway to where you know, any seven hours to Amarillo and like you can be in South Fork, can ten and a half. How wild is that? Uh? Yeah, so we we we wanted to beat the heat. We saw these hundred gree temps coming and we always try to go beat the heat in the mountains in the summer pretty much every year. So, and my wife and kids are pretty flexible. They used to. Uh, my wife's a coach, so like they're used to schedule that's never the same. Um. Whereas like other kids that I know that are people and their kids that I know, are not like they may be like getting bed at eight every night. Their kids go to sleep on their own and they crawled in bed, go to sleep at eight o'clock, they wake up at you know, six thirty or whatever. That's not my kids. And so but those like I've noticed that those kids a lot of times don't just wing it very easy, you know what I mean. And so we've kind of have the ability to do that with our kids being used to just winging it, and uh, we just go and don't play a whole lot. I got like an area I want to go fishing, you know, it's usually something new or something with native fish, and we go take off and just kind of like as we go, we're like, oh, well, we're gonna be in this area, so let's see if we can come across campground it looks all right and stay out there. And we do. And then some nights we get a cabin and sleep in a decent bed, maybe wash our clothes at a hotel or something like that, and you know, or a cabin and move on. Stay in official campgrounds often. Uh yeah, but they don't always. Most of them don't cost money. Yeah, they're just like far enough away, but they're they're like, uh, you know, federally designated campgrounds or whatever they got to sign and not usually carry water usually. I think that's the thing is like, when there's potable water potable, how will they say it? I think, you know, they say it potable, but it shouldn't be. I think it's the long old thing man. It is like if you're from about I don't know, let's say north of Raton, New Mexico, you probably really like to say portable, but potable as then you can put in a pot and drink it. Some people say pattible, they probably do just a pet that's good? What uh here it goes? Um? So I think that's like the line of delineation on if it's a pay camp ground or not. If there's if there's potable water there, that makes sense. Yeah, that you know they've invested some stuff into We saw that. We actually saw that play out, I would say, which is nice to have sometimes. But here's a little you want to talk about a you know, cheet code. You can go pot your water, but not to stay at that campground and still get you some water. Anything about that? How about that? Yeah? Just lay down like two dollar bill. So that's what I did. Dollar bills that way I can It's cool, Uh freak people out, you know, I get stuff for cheap that way, you know how like people are like, yeah, you should buy your house with cash or your vehicle with cash because you can get a better deal. You know how I do with two dollar bills, Like, hey, I know it's four dollars, but I've got two dollar bills. Really cool. Cool. But yeah, so we we went and did that. Dude. It was really really nice caught. I'm not gonna really talk about where I was too much for the fact that it was native fish or you gotta or the good fishing holes you're gonna protect. Yeah. Well, and and also part of this trip was to look at some country that I potentially maybe a hunt. I didn't even know you're gonna say that much at you. Yeah, so, uh, I just wanted to see like if the country that I was in maybe uh worth hunting, is it? Yes, it is. There's some cool stuff, dude, there's some real cool stuff. Um. And we we moved around a lot too, so I can't like we didn't stay where, Like, we spent some time quite a bit of time where we were gonna where I would potentially hunt, but like, we didn't stay there. We moved around a lot and we saw some awesome stuff. Dude, we saw so many cool things. We saw. The first place we went, we saw um a bunch of sheep, no rams, but like we saw a group of probably thirty years in lambs. That's a huge group. Dude, right next to the road. Got some cool picks. When's the when's the breeding season? Is it called a rut on those things too? So when when does the term rut not count? Like elephants don't, But elephants don't rut, do you think they must? They must, like Ellen, yeah, he should be a hunter, for sure, he probably is. You know, those rich guys don't, like a lot of them hunt, and they don't put it that nobody knows about it because they have to impress. Well hey, and be who do they have to disimpress? Because if they start showing pictures of themselves with dead animals. But like I know, like I've seen pictures of dudes that I didn't know hunted, but like our associated with somebody I know, and they're like, oh yeah, so and so you know, like he shot he went to Africa last year with me, you know, or my friend or whatever. It's like they're like, don't show anybody this, don't talk about it. And I'm like, I'm not going to you. But you know, it's crazy. It's like weird how they don't want that to be a thing. But Elon probably is a he's an elephant, right hunter, Probably I can see that. Yeah, Um, you know what else we saw? What? I got real good pictures of a big moose. That's cool. Yes, we'll have to post them. I got cool. Not enough, that's always the answer. Zero. Do you really have the euro points? I can't put in for I can't afford it, dude. And I couldn't afford that you did at one point because at one point you had to front the whole tag and then recently they've gone to otherwise, but still a hundred bucks, dude, dude, it would better to front the whole tag for now in my place in life, Like, I can, you know, figure out a way now to like set aside two thousand dollars for a couple of months. I really don't want to figure out how to like just give Colorado a hundred dollars, you know, what I mean, it's a lot different I And this is the thing man, like people are like, oh, it's just a hundred bucks. This is something I wanted to talk about a little bit in regards to this trip. Is like, dude, I'm still really poor and I found that out yesterday. M M. Yeah, you know, I don't. I maybe trying to jump around too much. But on the way back from Colorado yesterday, UM, maybe I should tell this other part of the story. First. We did a lot of fishing on the trip, caught a bunch of fish, had some really a couple of really good experiences where like I pulled up to a creek one time and like the first five casts caught like three browns that were like ten eleven twelve inches, and I immediately knew, like, this is a this is a good spot. Yeah. So I left jet my son fish fly fish, and he's ten, and he caught three by himself over the next like minutes. Did he feel the stoke? And he was caught a few before on on his own, uh two years ago maybe we went to New Mexico and he caught a few, but he I mean, he was doing the whole thing on his own. I was telling him, we're to cast, but no, it's a little bit right of there. You know, I gotta keep your right tip high and fling it down. All this giving him advice, but like he caught three fish by himself and then like he went back to the truck to get water, and I probably caught four or five by the time he got back to the truck from from the truck, which was ten yards from us. I mean, it was insane, dude. I fly fish, Uh No, I had a dropper on, but I caught several on dry to Uh, but you know, browns are a little bit easier on a dropper sometimes. Well anyway, I was like, I probably could have sat there and caught a legit thirty fish that hour. I mean it was insane. Fish every two minutes, dude, I'm telling you it was insane. And they were. They were in every little spot on that river. Yeah, we talked on the phone, uh like after that, and uh we were talking about how cool it is to fish a place where like you get this bass fishing a lot, you make a cast just like like oh this and it doesn't happen, and then you do that six hundred times that day. And you catch two bass. Well, it's cool to go to a river that has a healthy fish population that like every seam in every pocket has the fish and it's just about you putting the fly in the right place. Yeah, not letting the drag. Yeah. I've only done that in a few places. And uh, the Smoky Mountains are one of the places that I do see that. Really. Yeah, there are a couple of streams that happened. Dude, remind me after this podcast, I have some things to talk about as far as like eastern fish. Okay, it sounds good, um okay, So but yes, I that was one of those special times. I didn't get to spend enough time there because we had to kind of move on. We just we were in a wild place, a very wild place. Even though there was a road there, it was like the only road for a long time. And so I caught the fish or whatever, had a good time. We anyway, so we went a couple of days later, we end up uh staying in a cabin and we moved up. Um. I told my my family. My wife was thinking that they would want to do a hike, and so I was like, it's pretty good one. It's like on on X it's showing pretty pretty steep but it's like one point four miles. How did you figure out the steepness because I measured the trail. I think you can just look the click on a trail and it will show you like the well, actually you don't have to click on certain trails that'll it'll show you like basically yellow, orange, red, and green. So there's a gradient. Yeah, the warmer, the you know, the hotter the trail color is the steeper it is. And it goes like from like zero to like twelve grade or something like that. Um, doesn't sound like much, it doesn't, but it's sure enough is and it was. This is how I was telling you, kind of show you how I felt like I'm in pretty good shape right now. Um. We we decided to go do this and my family thought it would be good. And it's called the Trail Slope Layer. Yeah, so that's that's what I used. And I also I also built the trail that we we would take on a by by h drawing a line on the trail and I ended up, Um, I could see the distance it was and it shows like if you click on the line, it shows you a gradient. In your elevation gaining loss or whatever, and it shows you like these little different colors all the way through. It's pretty cool. But it was like a one point four mile trail and I think it was a almost foot game, so it was fairly steep. I would say, sounds pretty good. Um, but I felt good the whole time. Of course, we went really slow because that had a six year old and a ten year old with me and my wife, and um, you know she stays busy and doesn't have time to work out like all these other instagram uh fakey's but uh so you know they they they struggle compared to me. But like I felt real good the whole time, and we ended up like I could look, I need to look on the map, but I think we ended up over thirteen thousand feet. It's pretty at a lake and there was an insane amount of cutthroats in it. Did you catch them? No, they're tough, so or did you bring a rock? I brought a rod? Okay, I mean I wouldn't think that that's why that's why we went to this place. I wouldn't just hiking to be a foot uh, which some people like that. That is not me I kind of want to hike to a fourteen or to say I did it. Yeah, I would do that too. I would too. Um, there's a couple that you only have to hike like you know what I mean, I appreciate. Okay, So anyway, we went to this We went to this lake, right, and I had, I had, you gave me a website, and it actually didn't have any information about the lake, like the normal stuff that it says the department website. Yeah, but it said that, uh, it says something like cutthroats possible or something like that. So anyway, we hiked up to this like I knew that knowing where what it drains and I'll tell you later what it drains or what it what comes out of it? Um it. I knew that it should have cutthroats and where was that sou We get up there and my wife actually didn't make it. She was she she gets yeah, she gets a lot of Yeah, she gets a lot of uh sickness types like vertigo type stuff. Not like vertigo necessarily, but she can she can get nauseous real easy. So um especially married, Yeah for real, so many good jokes. She Uh, my wife's that way too. Ugly. So she got uh, she got where. She was obviously tired and feeling she did not want to get elevation sickness. So she actually made it to like three three hundred yards at this place probably, and um long story short, didn't. She was like, I was like, you want to come up, I was yelling her. She was like, no, I'll just stay on here. So we came back down to or whatever. We didn't fish long as me and Jett and Journey. But when we first pulled up, like I need to show you, let's see, it's at there's thirteen thousand there, it's right below thirteen. It's like it's like twelve how there's twelve eight right there. I mean it's like right below thirteen. It's over. I mean I think it's over twelve eight. Yeah, it's over way over twelve eight. Crazy dude, that's high. Yeah. So any it's about twelve thousand, four ft higher than what we are right now. That's exactly right, dude, insane. So here I'll show you a little video. Okay, So for those of you, there's scree there's blue water. I didn't there's fish there. Oh my goodness. Yeah. So yeah, um so here's the deal is like when we got up there and they saw Jet saw the fish, he wanted to catch one, and it was kind of windy, and so I was like, there was there was the tail end of the pool that was leading out to the you know, the tail water had like a fifteen inch bright red male just hounding some like thirteen inch females and there was like four or five of them in there in this little pool, and I was it was crystal clear, and I was like, so, I was like it was, but it was tough, you know, because you had to kind of sneak up on them and stuff and get him. There was real rocky. So I finally I tried to let Jet cast it. It was becoming a disaster and I was like using a seven X tippet because it was so clear and they wouldn't hit a five. And finally I put on like a seven x and um uh. I put on a parachute Adams, a little one like a eighteen or sixteen and cast it I was casting for and I cast it in there and this dude just comes right up and takes it, and I set the hook. I was like, all right, Jet, I thought, well, this is gonna be easy, Like if they're gonna do that handed to jet. He loses it within like, you know, five seconds and it's not even finding that hard because their lake fish, you know, and he loses it because he just he the left hand is difficult for him. You know, he's still working on that. Well. Um, So from then I could not get those any of those fish to hit after that, and then I went over to all the ones I just showed you, and it was hundreds of them, dude, on this flat little bench and I, I mean I had maybe one bite and uh, like one of those ones where you set the hook and it just goes. You just barely fill the fish and it comes out. I was I couldn't get them to hit anything, dude. I was trying seven X tip, I was trying tiny little twenty size twenty droppers. I was trying big old grasshoppers. I tried to wooly bugger like, I couldn't get anything, dude. No, I didn't, because I dude, it was one of those deals where like my wife is somewhere down the trail and I was like feeling bad the whole time that I left me. Yeah, and I was like yeah, that's her. A hundred times she's like okay with it. But and she was okay when I got actually shoot have stayed up there, and I was like, I just you just don't know. Is an anxiety involved with leaving your wife at twelve thousand feet on a trail and we're not knowing if she's going to get elevation sickness or whatever. So and also having two young kids with you at thirteen thousand feet by yourself, you know, and so at least you have grizzlies in the equation. Yeah, but you know that's why I like Colorado. It's not the only reason. But so I just had this anxiety the whole time. I was trying to tie you know, droppers and you know tippets and stuff, and it was just it was a headache, really, is what it was. And that's why I want you and your family need to go up there with us next year. There and our families can spend time at about nine thousand feet, and you and I can go up to twelve thousand and just beast mode it and just catch all the fish without Yeah, I think I don't have as much experience at those high mountain lakes. But I have fished a little bit, and the cutthroats at least are they seem to be real tough. I think it's a couple of things. The clear water doesn't help, but I think those fish get so particular about what they eat because they only see like one type of thing. There was. There was some ants up there. There were a ton of like house flies, you know, like a normal house fly. I look at thing. They were everywhere, but I didn't see any other kind of hatches. Yeah, I think that those things they eat a lot of like size twenty four twenty six tiny midge larva, I think. And it's weird that those fish can grow to be football's given that I try to size eighteen or twenty zebra midge and they wouldn't hit it. And I was surprised. I thought, I mean, I can catch fish on that a lot of times, and uh, I didn't have anything smaller really. Um So it was frustrating because they were the coolest looking trout you've ever seen. I mean just red, dude. All the males were so red and there. And another thing is those fish are all like when the ice is out on those high mountain lakes, they're spawning, like that's what they do the whole summer. I feel like, or at least I mean every time I've seen them in high mountain lakes, they are messing with each other and so like there's kind of this whole like enamored with each other thing where they don't like they won't even see the cats fly sitting there on top of the water above them. You know. Yeah, I wonder if it's a thing too. We're like as humans and a high mountain lake like that, we're always there kind of at the worst time of day to fish because it's like Tenda two that's when you make it up there, you know, or Tenda three whatever. That's why I want to do like a overnighter. Well yeah, even like a Throe trip where you're like, hey, pick me up on this road over here two days from now, dude, in a in a different yes, uh huh with you. There was a time I like just and this is a thing. If you're younger than us, listen to me, Okay, don't be responsible with your life. You know, God has gifted you with a life and you should do the things that you need to. However, when you're twenty four and you got a couple grand in the bank and you don't have a wife, Like, go do it. Go do the thing, man, Like the Colorado Trail is there, Go do it, you know. Like and I always well, a lot of things I spent my money on stupid stuff when I was that age, but like I just thought that, like it just wasn't the thing that I could do. And you can. You can go do that. And let me tell you this. This is another thing. I'd say this a lot when I come back from trips like this. So you've probably heard it before if you've listened for a while. The you will mess something up, okay, So like, don't go don't you know, if you're gonna think that you can listen to Aaron Snyder and do it perfect the first time you go out back country, it doesn't matter. Aaron can be the best dude to listen to for the back country hunting thing, and you will still mess up things, and you still figure out something, and your feet will still have blisters on them, or your socks will be wet, or something will mess up. Right. The only way to truly get a system where you can go on a trip and be pretty comfortable and overall have things to go. Your way is to do it, because the first time that I ever did an overnighter in the mountains was a disaster. Dude, and my my wife who was my girlfriend at the time, and my dad went on the trip with me, and we camped and we got soaked and we hiked our tails off. I was in prime college football condition, and my dad somehow made it up there with me. But it was rough, Dude, in New Mexico, we did, this trail was unmaintained, like they logs all over it and stuff. Like I thought, we're about to get into the trout at the top of this thing. We get up to the pond and there are people kids yelling, and I'm like, what is going on? Come to find out, talk to one of the kids. There's a like, uh ski valley or village or whatever that they just basically walked flat over to this pond and hang out at. And that's what we hiked for like hours, straight up a mountain to get to love it. Yeah, and then we got soaked all night by rain and our sleeping bags, didn't sleep at all, and walked straight out the next day. As opposed to catching a bunch of trout standing in there a few days and ate soggy mashed potato or we not soggy, wet, cold, uh, instant mashed potatoes for for dinner. That was what we ate. And that's like that's my first trip. It was a complete disaster, right, but like stayed with it, figured out this is the way to do this, this is the way to do that. Uh didn't do that right, so what else can we do? And you just go man, and like you then you end up going into the Black Canyon with five gallons of peanut butter and that was my tree that you were there for. I brought a full size jug of peanut butter that I never opened to the bottom black canion, full figure, Like I think two things of trail mix and only ate one of them. They were each two pounds each. You know, you think, like, dude, my pack could have been literally could have been fifteen pounds less, maybe twenty, you know, and you just don't realize how much food you actually need for an over trip overnight trip. Yeah, and there's always things that do still right, like don't don't think that you can't do it until you've learned everything from some podcasts or or until you've had the experience, like you sometimes you just gotta be a little bit tough, go do it, learn from it, and get better and better until like these trips are actually pretty dag um enjoyable and you know, don't don't have this anxiety. What is uh your your friend that you're talking about earlier, Mark kenyan Um, he has this saying it's probably not what he is but analysis paralysis analysis pas paralysis by analysis. So don't don't have that, Like, just get some good ideas going and playing your trip. Try to listen to as many podcasts and helpful videos as you can before you go and go do it the same thing without like with you know, uh at least away from home or traveling to un you know, like dear white tailed Deer, same thing. You just go do it, man, like you're probably not gonna shoot it you the first time, Go do it. It's fun, get out there, get after it, try it and live. And this is what your twenties are for, man, you know what I mean? Like that is your twenties are for messing up and being tough and in good shape. That's a good point too, because if you haven't done it till your thirties, then it's real hard to learn stuff in your thirties because life is hitting your real hard and like you just don't have time for that. But like, if you've learned it in your twenties, then you can be kind of where we're at in your early thirties and you're like, you kind of already got some things ironed out. If you get a weekend, you don't have to figure out a bunch of stuff. You can just go do it. Yeah, and you got you got the gear that you need and everything too. It's already right there. So I don't know that you know we're gonna be inspirational. I did not know. And I'm feeling good about I'm ready to go, though, dud You're like, no, I I and I say all this, and I say all this to say, basically, um, to go back to my point of being super pore here. UM. I on that trip up that to that high country lake or whatever, right before we got to the parking area, there was a really rough spot and there was a lot of people out because it is the first day it was sunny in a few days. And this guy kind of put me in a bad position on my truck as I was about to go over a really rocky uh spot, and of course my truck is a Dodge, just got a huge you know hood that you can't see over. I tried my best man, but I ended up. Um my truck sits pretty low because it's a kind of an old man truck, and I ended up high centering uh a rock uh, but not like getting stuck on it. I just hit it, you know, as I was going through, and I thought it hit the like drive shaft or whatever, um or not the shaft different yeah, differential, because that's kind of what sits the lowest normally. And it sounded like it hits something real hard. And I was like, you know, it didn't sound like a piece of tin or something like a muffler or anything. Right. Well, I was like, okay, cool, Uh that thing's pretty hard, no big deal. It's just it's kind of low. It's built to be hit, you know. And uh. And so we did our deal, came back down, got in the truck, went and slept that night, got up the next morning, went further south, went uh kind of got you know, pointing back throughout direction, slept another night camped and then ended up um uh getting to Amarillo, and we got to our hotel and checked in, and then we went to the Minion's New movie because my my kids wanted to go see the Minions. Right, we come out of the Minions about eight fift eight thirty eight thirty, and there's a pool of something underneath my truck. And I was like, Dad, go man, And you don't mean like a standard croppy top, well, not like standard craffee thicker than a stand across thee though, And uh, I was like, man, for sure, when I did that high center of the day, something messed up, you know. And I had been noticing my my transmission was a kind of funny on the way in Amarillo, and I thought that what maybe was happening. It was either I had messed up my gears going down all those mountains and stuff, or I my truck was just coming back from elevation and getting being weird or something, you know, who knows. So but then anyway, I saw the thick, thick, crappy stand to stuff under my truck, I was like, man, something's wrong. So I took my kids in my life to the hotel and then I found an automotive place. This is Sunday at nine o'clock PM, so nobody's open. And so I take this thing to this automotive place and drop it off my truck and get an uber back to the hotel. And then at six the next morning, wake up and at six thirty I'm gone with another uber guy back to my truck and they opened at seven. So I get there about six fifty, put some stuff in my truck, and walk over to the front desk and I'm like, hey, I think I got some transmission issues A high centered the other day, a tissues. Appropriately yeah, So nick, guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna be vulnera vulnerable here for a second. So y'all, y'all, please don't save space, man, Please don't be hard on me here. I am trying trying to do something that I really love to do for a living, you know what I mean? And I don't and so I've been pursuing some stuff and I've probably, like you said, not been super responsible, but I've tried hard. Okay. I get in there and I'm like, got some tissues and uh, and I was like, can y'all look at it? We are nearly eight hours from home. Can you please, you know, is there any way you can work me in today? So they come back to me about twenty minutes later and they're like, uh, it looks like you gotta you know, the converter pipe is bent and the transmission pan is broken busted, and they're like it's probably gonna be about three thousand dollars. And I was like, I don't have that perfect so so and so like, my next few calls are of course too. The first call is to Casey because I'm like, man, is there any way to element? We didn't? We didn't. I was hoping that there would be a way, because really, here's the deal, y'all. My parents are great and they would lone me that money in a heartbeat. But I did not want to be thirty something years old asking my parents for money to get back from a vacation where I just like irresponsibly stayed in the mountains with my kids and wife for ten days where we literally we're pulling money from my my band account so that we didn't overdraw our account that we could pay back when we get back. And my wife gets paid. She gets paid monthly as a teacher, right, and it's bad anyway, So but we could pay that back, right, I'm borrowing money from my band account so that we can get through this vacation without overdrawing because we had we had a bunch of expenditures last month. It's it was a little, you know, more than normal anyway, This is like, this is like I said, this is me just being transparent with you guys. Like I am still very broke and still just I don't know, I have I have. Me and my life both have a very high value that we set upon experience and upon doing things with our kids as opposed to uh, maybe playing it a little bit safer. Um, I don't think that either way is wrong. But the way I think about it is we live in the greatest country on the planet, and and I've got lots of friends and family, not necessarily with money, but people that you know, would be willing to help out if we ever gotten to a big time buying And that's a blessing. And I feel like also that, like you know, people in America have a lot of discretionary income and are willing to help out people in a bad spot. Maybe I'm abusing the system a little bit. But that's just the way I feel about it. I want my kids to see and do awesome things, see God's creation and experience how big that is, how small they are, and um have a um, you know, to be enamored with that creation basically, So that's what we do. See how small they are. Yeah, it's cool. I mean, yeah, I can't remember who said it, maybe Matt Chandler. I can't remember who said this, but it was a good quote. And uh he said, nobody walks up to the Grand Canyon and says I'm awesome. You know, It's like this is this is awesome, right, And those who believe would say this, the Creator is awesome. Right. Some people worshiped the creation. Some people worshiped the Creator. And uh, anyway, that's kind of that's like my whole perspective on this. But I I just wanted to say that, Like I ended up having to borrow a credit card number from my mom and I'm a joke, okay, so that is uh that's what I am as a joke. Uh. But luckily we got insurance and there just invoice you that, you know what I mean. Well, here's the deals. Uh, Stay Farm would have would have been able to to basically, I pay my deduct deductible and they could pay for it up front. But guess what they have to do sending adjuster. And if you know anything about adjusters, they don't have anybody's schedule in mind except their own. And so I didn't want to stay in Amarillo for reasons, you know, uh, for more than you know the hours that I was there or much less three or four days while they worked on getting an adjuster, you know, in there to look at my truck. I wanted to get my family home. So I don't know it was it was a h we're twining, a no pun intended a rock in a hard place, and um, you know, basically had to borrow money from my mom. So I feel like a real loser this day of July. But that's, uh, that's how our trip went. And things happen, like I said earlier, and uh, you learn and you roll and you try to figure out a way through them, and and uh sometimes you do, sometimes you may not, and you know what the consequences. So anyway, Oh it's good though. Man. I'm glad that y'all made it home because I need to hear all these stories. Yeah, it was fun. Man, it was a good time. And hopefully I know you gotta for reasons, uh, they're big. You didn't get to go this year, But next year we're going. We're gonna do some cool stuff. Man. Yeah. My uh, my wife is with child. Um as a lot of y'all probably know. I've probably talked about on here, but she's on the no travel thing pretty much has been that way since kind of summer started. Which flat list Yeah inconvenient right, Uh, she's on no flawless for different reasons. Um. Speaking of one of the uber guys told me that he takes he takes a guy to Houston from Amarillo that's on the no flat list. Ay, that what an accomplishment, dade yea Um, but yeah, we'll be uh, we'll be after him pretty soon. I mean it's it's like a year away, so it's gonna be fine. And then again, I don't get to go to the mountain. I'm not going to see mountains at all this year because I don't get to go. Well, I'll see in Arizona they're gonna be like dry mountains. Yeah, but right now now I'll probably get to drive through some new Mexico Mountains to get there. Um, but you're gonna get to go do the high country thing up there, and that's one of the things we didn't talk about so far. I want to do the hunting application to what you're talking about a little bit. Um, you went up there with the whole scouting and seeing if it's a good place to hunt thing in mind, and you said, yes, it's a good place to hunt. So that's good news. Um, what did you learn that kind of makes you approach things any differently? Without giving away you know, I'm like, oh, actually to use this trail head or whatever, you know what I mean. Um, I I think one thing that I wish was offered more, and it's it was offered for a while there, and people are getting out of it these days for reasons that I understand is pack services because pack services don't make a bunch of money and people could instead pack in hunters that they gote and make a lot of money off of, so they don't do them. But man, if there was pack services, you could do some cool stuff. The issue is getting the elk out of something that's super steep, Right, you can access something that like a lot of guys can go in and act something that access something that's a mile or two deep that's really steep, and you go down into it, right, But getting out with a couple of elkload packs is absolutely miserable. Like people literally don't won't shoot elk down in there because they when they get down in there understand this. I can't get out with an elk. So pack services into stuff like that would be cool. It's something I learned that I wish was a thing, because there's some opportunities out there that could be had if you did that. Um. Another thing that I learned is that, um, it's weird. There are definitely like overlooked spots. We talked about it with until scouting a lot. There are these areas that like, you know, the guys that like go hunt or something would say, um, oh, if you work harder, you can get back into spot and there's you know, or there's there's a there's a two hundred in every unit in Colorado here like Newburgh say that a lot. I think, um, you know there's a two d every unit in Colorado, And yes there is probably and he probably eats bird seed and there's there's that. Um. But like, overall, the reason that some of these units take so many points to draw is because they're really good it. It's not because gods they are overhyped. Not necessarily. That's the way I feel about it, at least, And this is something maybe I'm learning, but like sometimes like there's there's units that border some of these really good units right that don't take any points hardly. And it's like, man, that country right there looks just the same as right over the border, but there's something about it, dude, there's something about it that the deer just don't go there for some reason. It's kind of like on any particular property, y'all think about this, any property you hunt deer on, there are parts of that property that you always see a buck, and then there's parts of that property that are not far from there that you never see a buck hardly ever, or or deer or whatever. And it's just something about the habitat that suits them or the way they go about their day or where their food is in relation to where they prefer to bed, that they just never go to that other thing or that other place that looks similar to you know that, And I kind of like, you know, if you're putting in for for something that is kind of iffy, you're probably gonna end up like unless you're really working hard or you get a little bit of that province, you're probably gonna struggle or you're gonna have a iffy hunt, you know what I mean. So I don't know, it's one of those things where I like that stinks to hear if you're twenty and you're just now putting in for drawings and stuff, you know what I mean. But there's other ways to go hunt good spots, man, for sure. But like I just wanted to say that, like, if you're thinking about trying to just like fringe hunt something, better do a lot of researcher scouting probably, yeah, or going there and learn it the hard way and maybe you will find a gym. You know, you never know about that. But um, I think that there's always a bigger picture that we have a real hard time seeing when it comes to stuff like that. Like, Dude, Iowa is awesome, but it's not much different than northern Missouri or western Illinois, or eastern Nebraska or even southern in Minnesota. Right, But it's different for sure, And uh, we can point to a lot of things where I wouldn't probably tell you why, but that's kind of a boring podcast at least for me right now. Um, but like in mountain ranges and stuff like that, there's things that like we will probably never understand of, like you know what in this whole unit over here, And this is why they're units, because they manage them differently because well, sometimes they're managing for trophy, but they the idea with units originally was to manage them on a ecosystem like basis, and so like those unit lines usually have something to do with ecosystems or micro ecosystems or whatever you wanna call it. And like you could take a unit, say like unit one and unit two is right now making this up, but unit one is this unit twos right next to it. Habitat looks exactly the same, but you know what, Unit one has seventy three percent more than with facing slopes and the unit two does so it's actually cooler, and throughout the years the deer learned that that is the more um optimal habitat. But like to the naked eye, you can't see it, or maybe like here's an average, this drainage gets seven more inches of rain every year, and but like this year it might be way wetter than what right, Uh, you know, it could be opposite. It doesn't make any sense. But the steers, the deer still over there. I mean, that's another thing you don't see, especially, is the rain thing, because in the mountains, like certain mountains, individual mountains can push up enough like heat and and humidity to cause rain to collect in certain basins more than it does literally a mile that way or two miles that way or whatever. Right, So like you have these like I noticed. That was another thing I did notice, Uh, because we moved around so much, was how dry like some of the stuff that we hunted or that we've founted that we fished first and last was the area around it. And obviously stuff grows. Different things grow there too, you know what I mean. Like there might be more pine in the dryers and there is in the spruce weather or spruce in the wetter areas or whatever. It's like, you can notice that stuff you spend a lot of time there, But most of us are going to the mountains to hunt and don't spend a whole lot of time there, so it's hard to notice this stuff, and it's hard to know like why, like where rain builds up usually and ends up dumping out and stuff like that, and that makes it tough, dude, Like there's like there's so many variables that we can't even understand, but we just you just know like historically now that these units are good units because people have had good hunts there for years and years and years now, exactly right. And I think that you can be kind of one of two guys and you get to be the other guy every teen years but or twelve years or fourteen years, whatever it might be. Uh, you can be the guy who, like it's constantly trying to find a honey hole in diamond and a rough type thing. Or you can be the guy who just sits random waits on the good hunt and goes on the good hunt, not saying either one of those guys is doing something wrong because one guy's gonna have to work a whole lot less hard than the other guy. And it's just bolls into what you just said, like how much time do you have? You know, I don't know. I don't know either, but you know what I do know what we got an event coming up this weekend and that you ought to go. If you're listening to this thing, yeah you you definitely should. Uh, the rest of you should go to our website, the end of Wild dot com get tickets. It's an E ticket. Don't forget. It ain't a seven day shipping ticket. It's an E ticket, um, even if shipping says something weird. Um. And we're gonna you know, I hope to see a bunch of guys there because we're giving away tons of things on X. If you work in Houston, you can make it there in time for the event six o'clock, but we aren't gonna start the video until like six twenty schule aren't thirty. You got time to get there, guys, right exactly. And if you know what, if you're coming in a little bit later or something like that, let us know, we'll we'll make sure and save you food and stuff. I would imagine we'll have ample either way. But um, I don't think we do need to give the specific details of that, like at the time and place, because we didn't talk about at the beginning. But uh so this will be in Beauta, Texas bu d A, which is actually Austin, Texas, but it's kind of like, well, I'm from Spring, which is Houston. Okay, guys, y'all stop that I'm from the Woodlands. That's Houston. I'm from bel Air. Uh, it's all Houston, Okay. I don't know the San Antonio the Heights. I'm from the Heights. It's San Antonio, Okay. But it's South Austin, so it's convenient for a lot of the Central Texas folks. Uh and uh. So that'll be starting at six pm at the Cabella's in Beauta, Texas. We're gonna have some delicious Mexican food and we're gonna watch us some good videos and be wrapping up around eight thirty. So y'all come out and join us at that. The tickets are limited, but we do have some left. We really want you all to go. Um. We want to hang out and do this thing. And sorry, it's all right, that's not last minute because we've been we've had this thing planning for about a month, but normally we talked about this stuff for a couple of months ahead of time. So anyways, come on down Friday night. It's gonna be a good time and if nothing else, we're gonna have fun and maybe y'all can at least see us have fun. Yeah, we gonna start hanging out about six o'clock. Will be giving away on X butch on X Cruiser saddle, some first like catalysts, system stuff, multi cell cams, vector arrows. Probably, oh, definitely gonna give away some Element T shirts. We're gonna having new T shirts, new T shirts, like a couple of different new T shirts. Yeah, three different new T shirts from our fall collection. You get a chance of those for any of the you know, dudes from Maine get them and uh, because I know ain't nobody coming from Maine to Austin. But yeah, that's some of the if we're gonna probably I'm gonna trying to see if fun X wants to send us some on X shirts and stuff to thanks to good. I don't know if we have them yet, but they're going to. Yeah, so well, uh yeah, we'll do some uh do some stuff. Man, it's gonna be fun. We're gonna watch the watch the movie, the dinner. We're gonna eat the dinner. We're gonna do some map scouting, some Q and A, gonna do giveaways and just hang out and kind of have a like minded fellowship of dudes that are uh, you know, interested in d I Y mobile hunting, especially when it comes to white tail, So that's kind of the idea. We can't wait to see you, guys. We're gonna We're really thankful for those who have already bought tickets, and we're excited to see you and uh the rest of you guys man will be uh we'll be seeing you Friday night. Anything else, That's all I know. Bro. Al Right, well, don't forget to buy your tickets and remember this is your element living in