00:00:00 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Tyler, and this is Casey, and you're listening to the Elements podcast Fall of a ambitious, slightly ignorant Casey Smith hops in the truck with his new hunting buddy, Tyler Jones, and they're headed north to a state that I had never stepped footing, really, the state of Kansas. And you talked me into going and doing something that didn't really make a lot of sense at the time to me, just being a cameraman camera I don't operate cameras, and being a cameraman on a white tail hunt. And we had access something a couple of little permission places up there that you'd acquired through the years, um, but we thought public Land was kind of cool. So on the road up there and kind of the week's leading up to that, I've been on my map on on X looking at all the cool places that you can go and hunt that anybody can go to anybody. I found this one little honey hoole, he said, Tyler, what do you think about this? He's like, man, there's a there's a hundred six deer using the strainage here, but maybe we'll talk about it. And we sat in your tree stand a couple of evenings and then on permission. What's on permission? What's the line? It only took one wind change to end up on public land credits, Baby roll credits, Nameless there it is, dude, Uh dude, what an epic epic experience. First of all, guys, if you haven't seen that that video, that's a that's a high quality production film that we did back and follow seventeen um. That was really awesome. I'll watch it as often as I can on YouTube. I link to below, but go check that out. But that's really where I think that Tyler and I took our maps getting to the next level and kind of the thing that really made me feel like, hey, man, like there's something to this. There's something to being able to look at a map, never step foot on the place and really did and really dissect it and understand where white tails are going to be, where you should set up, where you should hunt kill them, and go kill them. And we were able to do it on that trip. And I think from there, like it's just opened a whole new world for us with being able to use our on X app just to I mean, how many times have we left and not really known where we're headed and kind of figured it out on the way, and it works out from time to time. Sometimes there is a little bit of of a learning curve. There's a little bit of stuf if you have to go through and you can never predict everything that's gonna happen when you get somewhere. But man, I think that it is a valuable, valuable skill to be able to look at a map and at least make some decent judgments before you ever get somewhere, because you can eliminate so much country and eliminate so much headache and so much time wasted. For sure, man, I mean, you know, thinking back to that nameless hunt, you know, we we decided, based off that wind shift that we would be better served to go check some public land. And I mean we sat did we sit twice in that same tree. There was three hunts total, I believe us. We said the morning and evening and the next morning so good. The first time we sat there. We sat there the next evening and it was we saw a shooter buck that night, and then the next morning it happened and it was a giant, you know, And so I think about that for sure, and and then you know, honestly, like a lot of we used it so much last year. Man. I mean you talk about starting at the l hunt, right, um, I mean day one, Well, you know, day one of the hunt opening day, we get back to the back country in the afternoon and start filtering water and there's a bugle fests going up up through the mountain going on. You know, it's at the time we're getting water, and we're like, oh yeah, let's just get water and then then we'll get our stuff together and go and we end up having an encounter with a gigantic six by seven, you know, and it's like, man, we're pretty much put camp right on top of them, you know what I mean from the maps, and then like sixteen hours away straight line driving, you know, picking out these spots with a little advice from other people you know or whatever about the unit, but like to go in and pick the spot and go like it. It takes, um take some confidence. And I'm not telling you this to tell you that we are just the ultimate experts. That we've done this and we've built that confidence, and I think that's that that's what we're trying to do for everyone who's listening. And watching has helped them build that confidence to know that what to look for, what to see in on on map, and how to go in there and be aggressive in hunting. Yeah. And and that's like you're saying a good point there, because there's a lot of people that are gonna have different styles of hunting, right. That doesn't mean that you can't learn from us, but you may be able to take what you've learned from us and adapt it to your methods. Um, and what our methods are. We have confidence now in our ability to map scout to our method to the methods of hunting that we use. So like it helped us, like I said in the on the Old hunt last year, it helps us on several deer hunts. You know. It allowed me to kill two public land bucks last year in a public land dough um at places that I had never been before. UM. So you know, it's definitely feels good to be able to accomplish something like that. You know, It's one of those things like you know, and when I played football, you could see the accomplishments come out, you know, as you matured, as you learned, and as you got faster and trained harder, and you can see these accomplishments come out sometimes day to day, sometimes week to week or month to month. But um, you know that's something that for a while there you kind of feel unaccomplished. And then you start, you know, learning this new thing called map scouting, you know, and and you start to figure that out a little bit and it feels good man. And and so what we've tried to do with this map Scout Challenges help people to adapt some of the things we've learned to their to their methods and to become better map scouters. So we just showed everything. There was nothing held back here. Man. What we're talking about here is the map Scout Challenge. That's what we're doing. That's what we are releasing on YouTube right now. Uh. And this episode is gonna be a little preview, a little high fist about what that's all gonna be. Um, guys, this is gonna be the most comprehensive analysis of map scouting for public land White Hills that you're gonna find on the interwebs. It's it's like, do we put a crap to the work into this thing. I feel confident in what you just said to I mean because I've seen a lot of the stuff. I know there's guys that have put stuff out, but we literally, you know, we kept the coordinates on. And that's not to hurt anybody's feelings or burn anybody out or anything of a spot. It's to help guys be able to take what we found and look at the map on their own time and to understand a little better, because there's just no way, even in thirty and forty five minutes, like some of these episodes are, that we can answer every question that some some dude might have. Right, there's gonna be questions. So maybe that guy can see those coordinates punched him into his phone and go find it out for himself on his app. So the format of this thing is that on a lot of these places we had coordinates submitted to us of guys who are like, Hey, I've never been in this spot. I'd really like to know what you think about it. I'd like to know your take on what it looks like on the ground. So what we did is we looked at those coordinates, we used our on X app, we evaluated the spot, and then went into the specific areas we thought on foot to go find deer sign and then showed everybody what was there, and then we video, you know, we video that whole thing, that whole sequence there, and then we bring you back back to the desk portion of things where a lot of maps gotting gets done, and then we break down what we saw and apply to different areas there. And that's kind of how the video is gonna go. So you'll have like a really exciting portion at the beginning and then more of like a classroom setting at the end. Now, I know that uh Tyler and I faces are very exciting things to see. Understand that the classroom part will be more more along the lines of m less enthusiastic, I would say, boring, but more educational. That's right. If you're into learning about this stuff and learning with us, then that's it's gonna be super helpful. So um, I think with that, I think we're gonna probably just kind of give you a little inside and some of the places that we went and some of the stuff that we saw, and maybe it'll kind of help you a playing your season. And if you haven't got everything, I'll plan it out and be kind of give you a little idea what you're gonna see from the map's got challenge. Yeah, And what we're gonna try to do here and this is uh, you know, we the first episode is up right now. It's Kentucky. Um, it's Land between the Lakes and Kentucky. Pause. Go watch it right now exactly links below in the notes if you want to go watch it. But um, what what I'm gonna try to do right now is take us through, um, each one of these places as we release these, so in the same order. Now we still have honestly, we still have a camera two I guess a camera out right now, and I haven't fully edited every single one of these, so there are things that could change in this order. So I just want to kind of preface it with that. But we're gonna go ahead and try to go through the order that I would like to release these, Kentucky being first, Um casey, Kentucky, Kentucky. Two minutes and thirty seconds to talk about this. Okay, So, Kentucky, Land between the Lakes. It is a giant piece of public land. It is a giant piece of public land that gets a giant amount of pressure. Um. In fact, we have some very very fresh sign of said pressure that you will see in the video most likely. Um, but you're gonna have a ton of big woods and you're going to have a little bit of agriculture. The neat thing about Kentucky is it has an early season, the earliest pretty much in the Eastern States, right, you know, I said that because we were talking about that. But there's a few states I think conventional early season, right, like what's up one of the aust Moore is a weird place Carolina July to you know, so yeah there, but there's some Carolina stuff you can go do. But like what you see a lot of guys planning in their seasons around at least like the Kentucky place to kill a nasty in September. Season on beans, I think is the big thing that everybody tries to go do. Now you're gonna see in this video that maybe that's not the only way to make it happen. But if you can go somewhere find some beans, there's a good chance you're gonna find some here. We're not gonna try to give too many spoilers, but I'm gonna give one here. Um So, just want to be a transparency on x Uh and Exodus trail cameras were big supporters in this, so go support those those uh um brands are out there if you um like what we're doing, because they supported us. But uh saying that our Exitus trail camera in Kentucky did get stolen, and it's unfortunate because we said, we put a trail camera in most of these and we put a trail camera out and we've got um, we've got footage UM to use to show you what kind of deer in the area and how a spot particularly did. But um, and we felt really good about this spot of is on a bean field, tons of brows, halfway between two road accesses. We felt good about it, and it just just didn't didn't keep the guys off the camera. She did not. But one of the two of the good things about the Exits show cameras is that guy can't use it because it has a pass code on it. UM, so sorry, Mr Guy. And too, Exodus has a pretty legit warranty wear they'll cover half the cost on a stolen camera, so you can go and place it pretty pretty uh inexpensively comparatively to other stuff exactly. So next place we went to waken E w m A in Texas, Tawakoni you might hear it, but if you're a local, we went to our own backyard. We had somebody I don't think who was local actually sent us those coordinates. Um. I think it was somebody from over in the df dub which you could call local. I don't know. But tex Texan. You could drive fourteen hours from here and still be in Texas. That's right, man, And you might want to drive fourteen hours to go hunt this spot. It's actually a really really good spot. We were blown away. We've spent some time here. Um, I've hunted here some to be honest, and I tell I think I say that in the video, but um, but it gets a lot of pressure. And so they are definitely a lot of times in the year that I don't want to be over there. Um. So with that said, we put the camera out. We did see people when we put the camera out. Um but uh, actually right where we put the camera out, but we didn't. Uh, And we did, and there are people that were on our camera as well. But these were kind of recreational types as opposed to like hunter types. Do you believe that one of those groups was a group of falconers? Yeah, I think you're up. So that was neat kind of interesting for sure, but honestly, lots of daylight movement not far from the road, um and some decent bucks that could be possibly for sure shooters this year and its situation where like the map scoutting paid off because there's a like a lot of stuff you're gonna find in East Texas is going to be kind of a no and it's and kind of difficult to find a spot on map. But man, this is like one of those really rare occasions where there's a good pinch there. Yeah, it was. It was great, a great job. And what we kind of pose this idea as when we finally went public with it, was that people would send us spots. And for most of these, you know, we've got spots or areas sent to us. Um, a few of them we didn't. We had to kind of batch some stuff together so we could get as many of these done as possible on certain trips. But this thing has the potential, this map scout challenge has the potential. We've got several I mean, this came from a completely different idea and it's gonna We've got other good ideas in the future. For this map scout challenge is not just um gonna be the same thing every year. So we're really excited about doing this more often. But from to Waukeny, we're gonna go to the next video releasing. And these are not necessarily in the order we we did these in. Uh, we actually did the physical scouting in but this is the order we're releasing it. So this is uh Oolaga w m A in Oklahoma. Yeah, I wasn't there for this trip, and uh, but I didn't help you do little map scouting whatnot. And it looks pretty crazy up there. Yeah, it's uh, there's a lot of land. Um, I think there's some good potential to getting some big deer. There's a lot of deer. Actually, the trail camera did pretty well. There wasn't any giants on there, but there was some nice bucks. And I didn't dude, I hung that trail camera like a hundred and seventy yards off the road, I mean, and and my buddy Westley with me, so I didn't want him to have to go all the way in some of these places real far, you know. Um, Honestly, most of my spots that I picked out on the map were flooded out. I think almost all of them we had to, Like we spent the first three to four hours that morning, uh, going to spots and going, well, this road is not necessarily that this road is flooded, but it was flooded five days ago and it's slickered and you know, snot so. Um Anyway, great opportunity. I think they're Um, we didn't get to do exactly what we want in there, but we still ended up with some good results in the trail camera and I think it's gonna be a pretty exciting one to watch. Um. There's a lot of tags you can get in Oklahoma, a lot of deer tags, yes, for sure. Um. The next one we're gonna release, we're looking to release is Mark Twain National Forest in Missouri. Just a little place out in Missouri, little place like three point one million acres, I think something like that. You know, not not billions, but millions. M dude, Um, what a surprise that place really was for me. Um. First of all, just a beautiful area I think of Missouri is kind of the south and kind of like I was toilet, you know, like it's just sitting on top of it, you know what. I mean, but um that that's a cool spot. That's a neat place, lots of hills, no agriculture in the national forest. You know, you're just you're hunting deer with the way deer been doing stuff there for forever. Yeah, it was very neat. Uh, one of the buggiest places they were band man. Yeah, I mean maybe it was just that day, a particular time of year and everything the good nests or ticks so bad. Um. And just like you can hear several times in this video mosquitoes buzzing around our mic. That's like how bad it is, you know. Yeah, we went definitely went to the mosquito fest area down in there. One of the things that you'll find in places like Missouri that have more liberal gun seasons and just quite a few hunters is that pressure is a real deal there, and you're gonna have to go and do things that people don't want to do to go find dear. We still have a camera soaking there. It's gonna keep placed upon so um. Pretty excited to see what happens with that. Yeah, I mean too, we got it in a good spot. It's also kind of a spot that it could get stolen, so I'm a little bit worried about that. Um, but there was a there was a spot we really wanted to put it and decided to keep scouting a little bit longer. It's one of those things where you're like, well, we're kind of back towards the truck, now, let's just put it here. It's a good spot too, you know, but there was a really good spot that we could have put it over a scrape that was a summertime scrape. You know. From there, we go not far um at least in state to state relevance to Kansas. This is a place I didn't even get to make either. You kind of do this little loop of a trip with a west up there and uh man, Kansas is uh it's kind of an intriguing state for a lot of people because it's kind of hard to go hunt there. You know. The thing is that Ulaga in Oklahoma is not far from this place in Kansas. UM. So, same type of deer, a little different bag limits or you know, quite a bit different bag limits. That could uh you know, it could affect the overall quality of deer for sure, but at the same time, like those deer the same you know, skeletal makeup and that kind of thing. So they've got the potential to to to be good. But uh, you know you're gonna have a few less deer probably shot there in Kansas, which means a lot of times an older age class. And that's why Kansas is renowned as pretty pretty good state to get. Yeah, yeah for sure. Um. And so anyway, this this particular w m A, I don't even know what the w A was named, but um, it was right next to the town of Caney, Kansas, and it's, um it's a cool place. You know. I don't think you can get way back on it necessarily because there's a pretty good road system right there in town. But I think that talking to West, there's some big deer there. So pretty pretty cool, pretty interested. Um, you know, I didn't get actually got uh our troll camera got messed with their um and we didn't uh, but it it took pictures almost the whole time. And uh we had one good half rack ten point Uh he had he had shed antler, but um, a couple of baskets and that kind of thing. But another deal where I didn't want to put West too far back and too hard a situation to get the camera. So I think there's opportunity there for sure. Um. The next place we go to, case is the first place that we did the map Scout Challenge. What a hot fest that was. Yeah, dude, Lake Whitney here in Texas, which is a piece of core land that has a lot of potential. Um, it's in an area of Texas where your body size on your white tails might be the smallest that you're gonna probably find outside of like Florida. But uh, they're still gonna have good sized antlers. The really intriguing thing about this place is, hey, it's a ton of land. Be you might be able to go shoot a deer, a hog, and a turkey all on the same trip. There's a lot of wildlife that shoot some ducks, that's right. We saw ducks on the river rock and catch some sandman gun talk about casting blast, I know it, dude, Yeah, it's really good. Like you wanna talk about opportunity. First of all, Texas you can kill a ton of your hogs are unlimited. You can kill a bunch of turkeys compared to other states. And then you can shoot ducks in catch fish all in the same spot like that's opportunity. Man, you need seven coolers when you're heading home. It would be a cool place for sure to to spend a week, you know, camping in that kind of thing. And we saw, I mean we saw turkey tracks a lot. Yeah, like in a few particular places especially, we saw a ton of turkey tracks. And I do believe that, Um, I don't know on the turkeys, but I'm pretty sure that this place is archery only, maybe even for turkeys, So um, you might really cut down on some of the pressure that you're gonna find there because not everybody in Texas is a bow hunter, so it's a pretty intriguing because of that as well. This place is actually not too far from us where we live, so it's like kind of one of those places we might have to go check out sometimes, you know, it just depends. It's like one of them deals. Man, You've got so many opportunities here in the US to do cool things, you know, and sometimes you gotta you don't have time to do them all. So, uh, the next place that we're going to visit in this YouTube series is another place about the same distance from home, probably, and that is Washtaw National Forest in Oklahoma. That might be my favorite one that we did. Um. We didn't see the big Bucks or anything on this trip, per se. And we actually didn't hang a truck camera because I believe you were twenty seven miles from a yellow striped road. We went down county roads and then two tracks for twenty seven miles. I think it was to get to where we were. It took a long time. I was a little bit worried because I just you know, I was just like, man, we were Some of these roads are definitely like jeep and four wheeler type roads, and I had a full sized truck in there, and I'm just like, but you want to talk about potential to go and kill some deer? We saw quite a few deer. Um. We found some legit situations were deer or using to rain, specifically in ways that are patternable with adoles and bowls and things like that. We uh found some consistency in bedding, especially with bucks, because we pretty sure we jumped two different bucks. May have saw a giant black bear. Unsure it was squat black beard. I'm thinking more of a squatch man. This thing was getting it. It was scary. Um. We saw a ton of black bear sign, though we did squat sign. I'm not sure which one, but it was one of those things. It was some kind of big mammal sign, you know. But either way, it's just that was a place that I've kind of dreamed about a lot because it's kind of accessible for us, but it's kind of intimidating too, because it's like, man, can we actually go up there and see deer and shoot deer? Like it just feels like it's just mountains nothing. Yeah, but there's some definite potential there. Yeah, for sure. I think the elevation would help us to get on you know, helps to get on deer. But yeah, that one's gonna ben exciting one to watch, I think, especially for out of our Texas friends who might dream of going to Oklahoma and get some extra tags just singing a not very expensive out of state license. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, the next place we're gonna visit in this series is we're gonna take ourselves back to Kentucky, the Kentucky Trip where we got to hang out with our friends Anthony and ol'brian ol'brian Seawan O'Brien. Um. This is Tennessee Land between the Lakes, so just south of the Bluegrass State there. Um not quite as earlier of a season, but just as big a bucks. Um found Paul Paul's, which was like a life moment for me. I've been thinking about Papauls for a long time. I want to go back there and harvest some all these days? Can you harvest to Paul Pardy? You just pick them? Uh? Well, I think if you watch the Jungle Book, then you're picking Paw Paul's. They have pap Pauls in the Jungle Book. He sings a song about it. Does he really? Yeah? I think it's in the bare necessities. Oh oh yeah, he does say somebody picking potholes or something. How does that work? I don't know. They got some weird continent stuff going on. But uh, there we saw a lot of deer in Tennessee. Yeah, yeah, there were lots of deer. Um. I think it's uh world record came from there. Like, uh, it's a cool opportunity again on a huge area there at land between the lakes. Um. I think you're gonna see a lot of people wanting around there, you know, but you know it could be a cool, cool deal. Um, that's gonna be later in this series, um, because we probably were trying to focus more on um, like where we set the camera for Tennessee was a for sure like rut travel pinch and so you know, Anthony actually pulled the card and left the camera and re up the card. You good. I was hoping so we might try to get a little more another run through there as it gets closer to season before we have to release this video, um to see what else has come through there. But it was not very good pool um but from summertime stuff because now we kind of expected that, Yeah, we kind of expected that. But I think what's important to me is to see how deer use the area and make sure implications were right. And we we kind of assumed where trails where, we assumed where the deer's right of travel would be, and I think that camera proves that. So now we just really need to swap the does for bucks which will happen during the runs. They had rubs and stuff up and through the oak trees. I mean, it's everything that you want me. It's a it's a for sure spot, you know. So we thought we would talk a little bit more about that in this episode as opposed to the early season stuff in Kentucky on that trip that we took. Um, you know, the last We've got two more here that we did, and the second last one is gonna be Davy Crockett National Forest here in Texas, which is a big another big chuckle in. I got lost there one time whenever I was a freshman in college. Yep, I was driving to go see a girl and got it was actually before on X you know, so like that's why I didn't didn't But anyways, Uh, that was a cool spot. Man. Um, we saw a lot of your sign. We saw a lot of hogs sign like you expect, and um, you know, we kind of turned a new leaf on hogs. Like for a long time they were kind of annoying, but sometimes you just have to accept them. And now I'm just about ready to rip some hogs matter. So I think if you're a hunter who wants some opportunity, there's opportunity there for sure. And I believe don't quote me on this, but I believe that you might be able to pick up an extra dough tag down there. Don't take me for regulation, but if you're interested to go check that out. Yeah, there was actually the sign kind of blew us away. Um, we hung two trail cameras there and uh, we're I think we're on the back side of the sign that we found. You know what I mean. Texas is so weird. The the especially in some of the East Texas stuff. It's like the rut can get so strung out, you know, and so like fresh sign from a week or two ago might be the very end of it, because we started getting close to when they were gonna shed and that was green up to soose years shifting to what they're eating. And I think they shifted on us a little bit because we hung a couple of trail cameras, one more for hogs and one um in an area where there was a wall or in a spring, and then uh, and another one is on a scrape that was pretty freshly worked and we did not get a buck on camera. Man, How weird is that? That's it's weird. We got quite a few dope. We Actually, we've come to expect that a lot of you guys are gonna listen to and be like that is super weird. We've come to expect that if we're hunting in East Texas, like we may not see a buck, you know what I mean, And that's that's the nature of the beast down there. And I think that that probably goes to show you that there's definitely some pressure there. And we saw signs of that pressure. You know, Like, man, when you live in a place where uh so much emphasis has put on the buck and people shooting bucks and they let you shoot little tiny's uh and then you don't get to shoot one until they're bigger than thirteen inches wide. Then a lot of little tinies get shot and they don't get to grow to be your bucks. But we had quite a few deer on camera still, like we set up on a good area to shoot deer and this isn't necessarily you know, there's a map scout challenge, just not the fine big buck challenge. Um. So you know there's a lot of people that you have been talking with on social media and stuff lately about uh, they're getting into hunting. You know. It's like, man, this is a great place to go shoot a dough, you know if you want to go sit right with We were just talking. We had poor wild hogs spaghetti for supper. It might be the best spaghetti I so good man, Uh, there's also turkeys there, so uh that you know, turkeys make for pretty good table fairs away. So anyway, cool place, definitely worth checking out, you know. And a lot of this stuff. You we go and we set a camera and you're eliminating. You're eliminating stuff too, you know. And like we talked at the beginning, we've had our successes. We've figured out some stuff that that match up with our hunting style, but that does not mean that you're gonna do it every time. There are guys that will tell you they've got it figured out and they can do it every time, and they are lying to you, so don't believe them. Even even our guest next week. Uh, Tony Treach doesn't kill something every time, dude. And this if you you ask anybody that's anybody in the industry that knows Tony Treach and there, they will tell you how for real this he is for real. So uh, our last video, as far as we know that's gonna release in this series is gonna be Illinois Shawnee National Force. Yeah. Is this the second biggest place we went to? I believe that's correct. Yeah, that's the second biggest. If you if you talk about you know, under the name of a national or Shawnee is two thousand acres? Is that two nine thousand acres? Um? So there's at least two nine big big bucks on this place. And then how it goes, um Man, this place was tough. Um. Illinois kind of has that big buck thing. We're not in Poke County though, We're like everybody hears about you know whatever thing's Bill Jordan's. But uh, I think there's potential for some good to you there. And honestly, we kind of to use a term we don't like to use very often. We kind of grinded it out on this place. Map scattered our way around, and it took us a little while to finally find a place that we were like, Okay, this has got some potential. But we found a spot. Did um. We figured out that we didn't want to be actually down near the river as much. It's right on the Mississippi right there, and uh then we moved her way up found a spot that we really liked, but it actually had a ton of pressure. Yeah, so we had to go. We think it's private land pressure at least access They were set up for public, but like we're gonna hunt this field, dear moving to this private field because the only timber is on public passed up from schant Rail's. Didn't know what they were what when we were could have sold them, man, gas. I want to eat one real bad. We can sell them next year. I want to eat something. Boy. Brian Coke had something recently and I think that's my jackline as well. His last name is Coke, that's right, man. But we end up finding a really cool spot that actually the on X thing helped us out a ton on because it looks like when you drive up, it looks like it might be private, but it is right on the border or whatever, and it is. It's a cool spot. Man. Yeah, I think I'm ready to see what that camera. I'm gonna be disappointed if there's not like a good three or four year old buck that shows up on there. A couple of times. Illinois doesn't have an early season, but that doesn't mean you can't use beans to your advantage, especially when you're camera scouting. This place that we were on had like probably I don't know, sixty acre bean patch that was kind of long and slender, and we followed the border that bean patch, like almost all the way the back corner before we found the place where the deer were accessing. And you kind of had the hypothesis on this, like you you always talk about how do you want to be as far from our road as they can be, and they kind of have a threshold of like if they can get certain distance from the road, they don't mind cars drive by. And that's exactly what we saw here. There were deer. There was a deer highway in the back of these beans back here. When you get to go actually look at the brows and the beans, but we had our binos with us, you can actually, you know, kind of look and see where the deer been eating. And they were definitely eating there. And we lined up a really old forest service two track and crossed that on the deer trail, so kind of expect to get deer going both directions there. And like you were saying, that camera's gonna sit for a while, we should have something on. Yeah, I hope so, man um, Yeah, I honestly hope it doesn't have a person steal it too. It's one of those ones, you know, we hung it up pretty high, but uh, you know, it's just it's it's just in a spot man that like you know, it's it's uh, it's at the back of that field, but it's also it's not like terribly far in there, you know what I mean. So it's uh, I just feel weird now because some of these big national forests in places, you know, near populations, we've had some cameras tampered with, you know, so um, but that's that's part of the deal. And there's some things that you can do to kind of circumvent that. Like we we hung that camera high um and one of the things that we really started trying to do uh and Jake Uh from Exit Chruke Cares kind of helped us with this idea. But you don't always have to hang the camera on the trail. You can step back a couple of trees and still have that thing point to the trail and take pictures. And when you do that, like if somebody's scouting deer and they're walking along this trail, they don't look up and see your camera. It's you know, seven eighteen feet off the trail right there, And that's kind of what we did there. So UM, I expect there to be something really good if that thing makes it me too, dude. I'm I hope there is man because uh, you know that we we decided to throw this together. And I say that, but we decided to put this whole thing together and actually attempted, um, like in February or January, I guess, so you know, we're like running up against the clock with deer shedding and stuff like that. They're they're antlers, and so like, we did as many in the spring as quickly as possible and then that way we could have like a month out with the cameras before the spring or before they shed antlers, and then uh, you know obviously went back in this summer um, and I guess you know whenever that was that we started doing that late May or whatever June and did some u for the summertime as deer going through velvet and that kind of thing, which the summertime is just tough, especially in the South, and we spent a lot of time in the South, you know, so um, but I mean overall learned a time. It was super it was super fun. A lot of it. Um you've probably heard me talk about how uh much work it has been. I mean it's it's been a lot of keeping up with footage being organized, um adding in all kinds of maps. We've we've done tons of map recording and that kind of thing. So let's touch on that a little bit. You'll you'll get to actually see like our thought processes at work as we're dissecting these maps. So we do scream recordings on our phones as we are out scouting this stuff. That way you can see kind of what we're marking, what we're looking at, terrain features and all that kind of stuff in real time instead of like two dudes sitting at a desk just telling you about it, you know. And and I think I tried to approach this from the idea of like, okay, what would help me if I'm trying to figure it out, what I want somebody else to show me? And that's kind of what I want to see. I want to see on screen recordings. I want to see those map dots. I want to see the the uh, the coordinates of where you're at. That way, guys, if you want to, you can pause your video on our map on our screen recording punching the coordinates and do it with us on your phone, because we leave the coordinates there for you to check out. Yeah, yeah, for for sure. Man. We want we wanted this to be as helpful as possible, especially you guys who are newer to this UM. So if this is something that like you're gonna watch or whatever, if you've already gone and watch the Kentucky one when we told you to thank you, and make sure that you're subscribe to the YouTube channel. I'm sure most of you guys are at this point, but just make sure you if you haven't, then you subscribe because you'll be able to see these um as they come out. You'll be notified when they come out. And so we're gonna release these um every week. We're gonna try to make sure that these come out. I'm doing everything within my power right now to make sure that they release on Tuesdays every week from here on out. That's right, man, until like I'll the first week of October. October, I think, yeah, so we have a lot of that stuff coming out, and then I do believe kind of as season starts to ramp up and we're getting close, there's actually another video series that I'm probably just as hype about. We need to we need to uh, you and I off air need to talk about when we're gonna start releasing that. But me too because those are we talked about this on the main show, um recently, but ye know the hot publicly and hot spots. Yeah, and so um just like some super short videos that will give you a tip on some of the things we use when we go out of state. You know, I kind of like was thinking about this, like thinking, man, you know, are we giving away too much? You know, like our people are gonna end up coming and finding the spots and hunting all the deer out of these areas that we we uh typically find deer? You know, are we giving too much of our style away? And this and that? Because and you know, I know I just had that we just got in mind improvised adapt and overcomes right, get better baby, Um, you know, I don't know, it's yeah, I kind of am like, man, are we idiots? Because nobody has done it like this before? Nobody else has done it this in depth and in detail before. And does that make us? You know, is that just the reason we do it? The reason we're doing it is that because you know, we just don't know anybody. The good thing is is that, um, what we're doing is not like the West Coast offense, or it's not like what's that weird offense where the quarterback goes out in place receiver in the um Wildcat. It's not the wildcat to where people figure it out and then you lose. Like people can figure out how we have success and we can just all have success there, you know what I mean. I hope so I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna work out well for everybody. Just uh, don't try to snipe our actual spots. We will we will come find you. Guys, if you are listening to this for the first time, you're interest the maps got challenged and you have subscribed share with your friends. Um, yes, please, man, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna frank with you, guys. Tyler and I are trying to find a way a to where we can dedicate as much of our time to doing this type of thing that we can. And what that what I'm really trying to say is we're trying to find a way to make a little meager living doing this stuff, being able to love what we do and still make sure our families have, you know, bread and beans at not to eat so UM, the way you're gonna help us do that is subscribing to our YouTube channel, sharing this with your friends and telling everybody about it, and head over to our website and buy T shirt or something if you if you if you feel like it. If you don't, we don't hold it against you, but um, support support us that way if if you do feel so inclined, and support the brands that have that have supported us. That's on X and and excess on this series. UM. And by when I say that, you know, um, you don't have to you know, spend a ton of money with them or whatever if you're if you you don't have it to spend or you don't necessarily want that, but just go to their social media and be like, hey, I saw the cameras on the Elements Map Scout challenge. You know, super interested you can stuff with you guys or whatever, Yeah, cool stuff whatever. UM, just let them know that you saw, you saw their stuff, you know, and that that just lets them know that they uh, that we're trying hard to make sure that they find value in what we're doing and that you guys are finding value and what we're doing as well. And it just means a ton to us. I mean, I can't I can't tell you. I haven't talked about this a whole lot in a long time, but you know, I I, uh, I turned in a couple of bands for basically a decade and you know, struggled, struggled man, And uh, I'm still kind of chasing the dream. And uh, that's kind of we're blessed to be in America and be able to do that kind of thing, you know, even as crazy as things are right now. Um, but we're we're so blessed just to be able to chase chase the dream. And Casey or I and I are kind of on the brink of living that dream, but uh, we definitely need some help to get over the hump. And we appreciate I love you guys so much for for the support that you guys give us and the views, the comments, the commentary towards anything that we're doing. Pretty much, we appreciate a ton of all those shares and just anything, you know, the words of encouragement, man, we appreciate those um so much. And if you are interested and becoming a part of the Map Scout Challenge, send us some coordinates. We're gonna go ahead and start getting these stuff together. We're gonna make a file. Um. You know. Of course, hunting seasons coming up right now and all, I mean, all of our efforts will be focused in on trying to kill some some stuff. Um, but right after deer season, we're gonna ramp this thing up, probably quicker when we did last year, because we're gonna get you know, that late season scouting and stuff done. So go ahead and start sending this coordinates. Guys, if you have a place that you either want our opinion on or a place that you've never been to that you maybe want us to go investigate. We assume that next season we'll be doing something at least similar to this for the maps Got Challenge as well. I foresee the maps Got Challenged lasting a while because quite honestly, this was a lot of fun to do, a lot of work. Tyler's put a ton of work in on the editing, so y'all be sure to give him an extra extra hand whenever you see cool stuff happen. Um. But um, anyways, uh, I'll I like the map Scott challenged. Man, I'm glad it's a thing. It's it's you know, the editing has has been overwhelming at times, but really truly very an exciting project to edit because so much is going on, you know what I mean. So it's not just your typical uh East Texas hang on public land where we saw three days and I'm gonna try to make that happen in two and a half minutes on a video, you know what I mean. So, uh, it's been a it's been a lot more fun than that for sure. But like we said, we appreciate you guys a ton appreciate everything that you guys have done for us. It means the world that we get to uh chase our dreams and chase big deer, which are really mainly our our dream big deers or is our is our dream? But yeah, this thing, uh definitely might even reach out into some Western states and that kind of thing. So sent us points, Yeah, yeah, send us places that we want that we want to go. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like if you got something that's you know, like uh, I don't know, you know what about like um and the Keena Peninsula speaking of keys, you might have to go maps out there that would be cool or uh, I mean I would even settle for like you know, the Taylor River in Colorado. Yeah, we could definitely see if there's white tails there, you know. But the thing is this, you know, this this thing might morph into some other things for sure, some different species and that kind of thing. We're working on different things right now in regards to that. But the if you send us a spot, it will be public. So just know that. And we have told everybody that sent us spots, hey, this is gonna be public. Are you cool with it? From this point on? Just consider it. Uh, We're not gonna probably just message you individually. If you send us something, it's going to be public. So hopefully it's a spot that you think it's cool that you you know that you'll really never get to, you know, unless uh, you know, we see a giant and then you're gonna go in there and Bason or whatever spend the money in time real quick. Um. We we've got a ton of help from a lot of our friends, uh doing the map Scott Challenge, So we appreciate that, you know, uh O'Brien and uh O'Brien and Anthony and Jake and Kyle and West and uh so I wanted to uh give a plug for our our actually just an Element follower who reached out and offered to help us because we need a little help with something. Uh. Our friend Kyle, Uh, Kyle Hankins, he's he's actually started a podcast called The Blue Collar Hunting Camp. So if you're into guys from the South sitting around hanging out and talking about hunting, go check them out. Kyle is gonna help help us out with some truck cameras stuff. So Kyle really appreciate you, man. Thanks thanks for doing that for us. Yeah, for sure, um, big thanks to our friends, all of them for doing that. And when Casey said send us a map dot, you can also uh with that map dot kind of volunteer yourself to help us get camp and stuff like that. You're like, if you're like, hey, come check this place out in Michigan and we're like, well, we can't go hang a camera and then go back to Michigan, you know, you might you might could offer to help or whatever, and we will take any help that we can get when we decide to go somewhere if you guys are up for that. We really love the community aspect of this thing. You know, Casey talks about it and he's like, man, it was you know, this is a little insight into what we talked about. But he's like, man, you know what, we just can't do business like a lot of people do business. You know, Like we're just gonna become friends with these people, you know what I mean. So it's it's it's inevitable. We just cannot We just can't help it. You know. We just we care about people and uh we enjoy we enjoy that community aspect. So hopefully we can all just create this big, huge community brand that's uh a lot of fun and everybody kind of gets a little bit of involvement here and there. So maybe one day there will be like a hundred thousand dudes walking in the woods at the same time on we do that in Mark Twain, there's probably us anyway, Yeah, we're gonna kill a bunch of pigs. But uh, in the meantime, guys, thanks for listening. We've got a lot of content coming your way this week, and that includes videos that includes uh podcasts. We're still doing the ELK series. We've still got our regular show and that kind of thing, and we're really gearing up here pretty quick, uh to do the to to actually go elk hunting and then it's uh and maybe even deer hunting. So uh, it's it's getting it's getting to the point where for us with as much stuff as we've got rolling out right now, um, it's getting tough. And we're gonna have to like be wise with the way we pack and when we do it and how quickly we're prepared for this stuff. So and I know a lot of you guys are feeling the same way with work and stuff like that and getting back to normal schedules after COVID and that kind of thing. So it should be wise of your time and get your stuff packed up in in plenty of time to go do these cool hunts this this fall. Also, remember this is your element limiting