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Wired To Hunt Podcast #234: Rut Radio 9/19/18

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Today on the show we’re back with another episode of our Rut Radio mini-series, in which we’re getting realtime from-the-field updates from across the country regarding deer behavior, current conditions effecting deer, and the tactics that are working right now!...

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00:00:02 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm your host, Mark kenyans this episode number two hundred and thirty four, and today in the show, we're back again with our radio mini series in which we are getting our weekly from the field reports on the latest in dear activity, behavior, current conditions, and the tactics that are working right now. All right, welcome to the Wired Hunt Podcast, brought to you by Onyx, and we're back again for another week of our radio mini series. With me to help do that is Spencer New Hearth. Spencer, have you killed Lieutenant Danielte? I have not, but that would be from a lack of effort. I what are you doing with your time? I am saving up my time until November, basically, like you have vacation days at work, and like you have vacation days with your wife kind of, I'm not going to burn all of those wife vacation days in mid September when it's ninety four degrees, so fair enough. I am, yeah, stockpiling them until we hit November. Well, like I see your logic, So I'm gonna give you a fair path. I'm gonna give you a free pass on that. But yeah, I'm a little jealous that you can be white tail hunting though, because I'm home in Michigan and our white tail season is is like two weeks out still, so I kind of went from being able to hunt. Now I'm back in this like purgatory where I'm stuck waiting, but I've already kind of got started, so I've got like the fever, you know. Now I'm struggling. So I'm ready to get going again. And there's a lot of folks that have been hunting. Huh. The season's opening in where Wisconsin, Minnesota, Missouri, all over the place, right, Yeah, and then some localized openings in some southern states as well, So it's giving that point within these next few weeks we should see like all the white tail states open up. Yeah. Yeah. So who then do you have on the show? First? Today? Talking we start off with Tony Peterson from bow Hunter Magazine in Minnesota. Then we talked to t J Unger in Montana from the Virtue TV. Then we go to New Jersey and we have Patrick Cutter from Red Hand Outdoors, and then we talked to Michael hans Sucker and Missouri from Heartland bow Hunter Excellent. Do we have any kind of consensus or it seems like from what I've been hearing, it's been kind of hot and slow, at least around the places I've been talking to. Is that what we're hearing across the board? Yeah? That would that hits snail on the head when you say warm weather and lack of movement. We're also getting a lot of acorns dropping around the country. That's kind of started recently, and you know, people talk about them literally raining down from gusts of wind. So I think that's gonna be another big theme in last year. In the episode in January where we kind of wrapped up the season, we hit on some of the um you know, talking points of RUT Radio. That was one of them on almost every episode, and it sounds like a lot of states are dealing with big acorn crops again. So I have feeling that's something we're gonna hear about a lot over this next month. And I think this next month is also kind of the most exciting time of RUT Radio. It's sort of the most nuanced hunting for white tail archery guys. Um, it's not like it was, you know, for the last two weeks where you're catching deer on summer patterns and and finding bachelor groups and stuff like that. And it's not like what it will be in November either, when the rut kind of trumps all. This next month or so is when you really have to work for those years. So I think these are gonna be some of our best episodes of radio. And like last season, when we would hit October, you talk to some people um in in the same very same episode, you'd hear movement that was a two out of ten for them, uh, And then someone else just a couple of states away, felt like they were experiencing something like a nine out of ten. So it'll be some unique hunts and unique reports going all the way through the end of October. Yeah, it's interesting you brought up last year's episodes and those interviews throughout the year, and I was just thinking the other night, I was actually laying in bed, you know, thinking about all sorts of stuff, and I thought to myself that it would be a good idea to go back and listen to all of last year's or maybe even the year before all of those radio episodes, because I think you can start to notice trends or different correlations and then look for those things in the future and apply what we learned from those guys. So, for example, if you've got a hunt the beginning of October, go back and listen to those episodes around that time frame last year and around that time frame the year before, and you're gonna hear from Joe Blow and Missouri and you're here from Ben in Michigan. You're gonna hear from Steve and Georgia, and they're gonna talk about what we had this condition coming in, we had this front coming in, we had this thing happening, and this is what we saw or this is how I worked on it, or this is what I tried to do because of that, And I'm betting that there will be things you hear about from those past years that would be applicable to what you have coming up. Um. So I think even though it's you know, speaking to specific things happening in the year two sixteen and the year two thousand and seventeen, right, there's these patterns that repeat every year where this front moved in on October one and this is what happened, and four guys saw similar things. So this year, if a similar front rules in at the same kind of time frame, or if the similar situation with the hard mass crop or something, you can apply that to what's coming up. Um, At least in my head, I was thinking that might be helpful even for me, UM, since I haven't heard those in so long. I'm thinking that I might do that on my upcoming drive home from Montana, I might go binge listen radio episodes and see if I can't pick something new out of that. Yeah, And a good example of that is this week we're talking to Mike con Sucker Missouri. Well, last year in Missouri, he tagged a really big buck at the end of September, and I asked him in our interview, is said, is there anything that you can take away from last year's hunt and apply to And he said, yeah, there's there's a cold front that is timed very similar from this year to last year, and that's when it's going to be his first hunt of the year coming up here at the end of the week. So, just like you said, you know, there are things from years past you can apply to this year. And uh going back and touching on like that acorn crop thing. Tony had told me off air that a good indicator in Minnesota for them regarding like the mass crap available is the number of deers. Excuse me, the number of bear harvested in this season. They're down thirty percent right now, and that would be due to many of the deer. Excuse me, many of the bear killed in Minnesota are killed on bait piles. But if there are a bunch of acorns and other natural food sources available, those hunters can't find those bear on the bait piles because they have no reason to come into them. And bear and deer largely eat the same things. And so with that harvest being way down this year, you know, that's a good indicator that these deer have a lot of food sources available as well. So those northern states, uh, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, it's something you're probably gonna be battling, uh, you know all season this year when I had when I was out in late August doing some work, just loaded the oaks are just loaded with acorns and dropping them. And I can see where on my some of my trail cameras that I've got. I've got some cameras pointing out into a food plot, but then there's also oaks on the back side of the food plot. And in one of these cameras specifically that checked a couple of weeks ago, I had it pointed at the plot. These deer were coming through. It didn't even seem like they were stopping in the food plot. All they were heading right to that oak tree. And then there will be five six deer all right underneath that oak, eating the acorns, not touching the plots. So I think that if you're trying to focus on a green food source or some little food plot or something here in the next few weeks or early October, to your point spencer, you might not see the number of deer you would hope because they're gonna be back in that timber. So I'll be interested to hear what everybody has to say, and especially in the coming weeks. Once I start hunting in October, I know it's going to impact me because I have some spots set up for the early season trying to get them on these little food sources. But it's probably not gonna work out. I think it's either you're you're gonna have to wait, or you're gonna have to dive in there. If you've got a safe way to hunt into that timber when they're on those oaks, UM, that's gonna change things up for people. One final thing regarding food sources that I want to touch on and lug a little bit is on my blog rout fresh, I just wrote about, um, whether or not it's true that deer won't eat yellow soybeans. I think that's something we've heard a ton of people say. And you talk to hunters and they say, oh, you know, not seeing much right now the beans are turning. But I think that there's a lot of misconceptions around um, that statement that deer won't eat yellow soybeans. So so go check out rut fresh. You'll find that as the latest blog where I kind of talk about, UM, what I think is actually going on there with the phenomenon that people think that dear will hammer soybeans when they're green or brown but not yellow. And with that, I think we go into the episode and get to our first caller, tell me sounds good. Before we get to our first update, let's pause for a word from our sponsors at White Tail Properties. This week with white Tail Properties, we are drawned by Tony Hansen, a land specialists out of Michigan, and Tony is gonna be telling us about what factors matter most on a property in high pressure areas well. To me, it's it's a variety. So even though I mean I own and kind of hunt a lot of small properties, you got to look forward a mix of things you need. You need food for sure, but you need cover probably even more. So, you know, I need to have all of the pieces that the deer needs because I don't want them traveling very far, and I don't want them to feel like they have to travel very far because you know, especially during our gun season when there's you know, nearly a million guys out there, if a deer moves, it's it's got a real good jance of getting shot. So I try to find properties that have everything you need right there. And yes, neighborhood matters, but it doesn't matter quite as much as what you can, you know, do right there on your own property. So you want to make sure that you have food and cover and um, you know, betting areas, security places and actuaries are a big thing with me too. So I look for a lot of variety and that's in the properties. If you'd like to learn more and to see the properties that Tony currently has listed for sale, visit white Tail properties dot com. Backslash Hansen that's h A N S E n Are And joining us on the line first is Tony Peterson from bow Hunter Magazine in Minnesota. Tony in Minnesota, what would you say the buck activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten, um, I would say, you know, we're probably sitting at about five. Say we're right in the middle right now, you know, I mean it's it's been real hot. We gotta we got a cold front coming in that will help. But you know, right around the opener, there's always some movement you've ben find, if you know, if you know where to sit, and even if it's hot like it's been, you can find something a real green field or or a little water source to sit over where you'll see some box if you're doing it right well. In Tony Peterson fashion, you filled your tag in Minnesota very quickly. Tell us a little bit about that haunted, a little bit about that setup. Um, yeah, you know opening night it was it was eight eight degrees when I got out of the truck, and I intended to go sit a a little staging area and playoffs some acorns. Is deer moved down to the fields. But on the way in I had had a different stand I had to walk past, and it was on this on the south southa field, you know that I put up for a gimme hoping I can kill one early season and there's so much deer sign getting in there that I was like, I don't I don't really think I should be walking past this stand. And it was hot. I knew the wind was right, and I knew there would be some deer coming into that green field at out Southall Field, and so I sat up there and had a couple of bucks, and some does come out, and the biggest buck in the group offered me a shot and I was out, you know, at seven o'clock at night on opening night. So that's how that shook out. That was a well executed han Tony. I assumed you would get it done opening weekend and you did. So tell us a little bit more about the food so versus in Minnesota right now. What are those white tail focusing on here in mid September. Um. You know, in Minnesota, it's like a lot of places, a lot of states around here right now, there's an abundance of food, and you know, if you could get on the right apple tree or the you know, the right white oak, you'd be you'd probably be on fire. But generally when it's this hot, I just I like something green. If if I'm not hunting water, I like the off or something nice. If you could get like maybe a late planted soybean field where they're still eating some of the leaves, that that can be a good thing. But just something nice and green that isn't dried out because they're looking for some moisture. I mean that that's my fish in anyway, it seemed like most of the country had a large mass crop last year. Did Minnesota have that as well? With plenty of acorns on the sure they did. You know, it changes every year, it feels like, but last year felt like we had a lot of acorns. In this year, we definitely have a ton of acorns. So how do you think that will affect things going into the end of September in the beginning of October for deer of me um. I think you'll be dealing with some some staging area stuff. You know. That's the way that the acorns set up in a lot of places, or the oak trees I should say is you know if if as as there's fewer courses out there, they become even more important and they can they can get a lot of good nutrition feed under one tree. And so it's kind of a kind of a deal where you might not kill that field edge buck in a couple of weeks because it's you know, there's been a lot of pressure already or whatever your your specific situation is. But if you can find those acorns where they're where they're hitting them right now, you know, if you can get in and scout right now and hanging a hunt or for the next two weeks or so, that's that's going to be important. Um. Those those acorns definitely will play into the play into most strategies, I would think. And do you think that abundance of acorns would make it easier or harder to kill an early season buck in the morning. Uh, I don't know if it makes it any easier, right. I don't like when they have lots and lots of options. I would rather have them only have a couple of trees that they could go hit. But it's you know, it's just all about your specific situation. If you can get in and find the one that they're hitting, and it's not gonna be you know, run a trail camera because by the time you're running a camera and checking the pictures and seeing what's going on, that might be old. It's gonna be you know, hike in with a stand on your back, or going into a nice little rain shower and take a look around and where they're feeding, because it's it's pretty obvious when you find a tree that they're pounding or or a set of trees that they're founding. And so it's going to be kind of a you know, in the moment type of hunt. You were headed to Wisconsin here at the end of the week, what are you going to be focusing on then? Um, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be hunting some public land that's got it's bigwood stuff. Um. But the place I'm most curious about hunting has a soybean field kind of to it. That's private field. But I think I can catch them coming and going. And I do have one ridge scouted out that's got some milk trees on it in a specific spots. So I'm gonna when I get over there, I'm gonna go take a look at the sign and just kind of make my decision then see what's see where I think I should be going forward. Then this next week or so, what do you think that bucket activity is going to be on a scale of one to ten in Minnesota? I would say we could get to about a seven. That cold front coming in should should crank things up a little bit and get some earlier movement in the evenings, and I think I think it's going to get better. All right, Tony, Well, good luck on the rest of your public land adventures, and thanks for joining me. Awesome, thank you alright and joining us on the line. Next is t j Unger from the Virtue TV in Montana. Now, t J in Montana, what would you say the bucket activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten? Spencer, So this is day three for us out here at Powder River Outfitters in Montana. UM, so we've had a few good fits um concentration so far as deer numbers are very very high, but so far as buck activity, I would give it a five out of ten right now. We can talk about the variable to you know why we think that is. But um, current situation that we've seen over the last couple of days probably a five out of two. And and so what are some of those variables? Is that the weather, some of the food sources. What do you think is providing that mediocre deer movement right now? Yeah? So, um, you know, there's plenty of food out here. There's there's alfalfa all over the stretch of of you know, the majority of the land that we're hunting, but um, we're hitting some pretty dry times. And with those dry times, uh, it's it's pretty unseasonably warm. Um. So just like anywhere else in the country, I personally think that the number one variable to stop you know, mature deer movement is heat. So when it's hot hot, they're just bedding down. Um. You know. At the same time, we've had a couple of encounters. Um, each one of the groups out here is at least you know, seeing a good shooter um on each sit But just numbers, you know, we're not seeing the numbers that we typically would um at a place like Powder River. But um, those hot TIMPs um should come to a pretty pretty solid stand still. Um. And like I said, we're seeing a lot of deer activity. I think on our first scent sit, Brady and I saw I don't roughly seventy deer, but they're all, you know, pretty immature. We're talking to those and fawns, uh yearling bucks and maybe some two year old bucks. Um. So so activity overall is really really high. But we're in a very game rich environment. Um. You know, I I don't think that there's been a day that's gone by where somebody didn't see you know, deer. So Um, each of our sits, we're seeing you know, high numbers, but just not yielding those mature animals like it normally would. So we do have uh some weather changes coming in. Actually tonight we're supposed to get a front um moving in and change things up. They haven't seen rain out here and brought us Montana and over three weeks. So, like I said, very dry conditions. Um, deer sitting tight at least the mature uh, mature animals. They're heading to to water and into those food sources after dark. Um, it makes sense the same thing that any of us would do. When it's super hot, we're staying in the air conditioning and moving out to that water hole, you know, after after the sunset. Now, as you would on say one of your Midwest properties, you're kind of hunting from bed to food. But how is it different in eastern Montana than say it would be in Indiana. Yeah, so it's it's different very significantly out here. So, uh, we primarily are hunting the Midwest. This is the first opportunity I've I've had to come out here to Powder River. Our group has sounded out here for several years. But you know, right off the bat, Uh, it's a clear difference. You know, we're hunting farms are ranches that are made up of you know, ten sections plus, so a minimum of like six thousand acres on each of these ranches that that were set and stands on. So and of those, we're talking hundreds and hundreds of thousands of acres of alf alpha um, whereas in you know, the Midwest and in Indiana where we're at, we're hunting you know, maybe a couple hundred piece, like couple hundred acre piece um made up of corn and beans. So you know, at home, we're focusing on travel corridors and travel routes this time of year. Um, they're stripped in velvet at home pretty pretty steadily. So um, we're still looking at those you know, those long stretches where they're coming out of the heavy timber, going through staging areas and then into the agg fields. Whereas here it's it's pretty tight you know, from river uh into that that thick, thick batting and then we're right on the edge of those alf alpha fields. So we're we are hunting that that edge habitat that you know, the dear love. But um, it's a much tighter spance between betting to their food source. Um. So because that, you know, coupled with the conditions that we that we have right now, Uh, Brady and I are are hunting afternoons only. Um, you know, the morning morning sits. Uh it's it's a little too risky. Um. If we were trying to slip in there, they'd still be on that alfalfa and you know, we would risk blowing all those deer out out of the countries. So um, afternoon sits for us. Um. But like I said, that that weather pattern should change pretty significantly over the next couple of days, we're seeing some colder attempts UM, I think low in the forties. We've got a about a one eighty change in in wind directions. So um. You know, over the last couple of days, Brady and I both we've we've been climbing innity stands and hunting as marginal as a marginal wind can be. UM. Our first set, we had a really good buck come out about maybe twenty minutes before before last light or before legal light was over. But um just caught just caught enough of our wind to to turn around and head back to betting until it was safe to come back out. So UM, we'll see, you know. I I expect things to continue to improve. UM. Like I said, everyone in camp has had some some good encounters UM, and numbers are still very very high on on immatures. So I'm hoping that this change should, uh should bring those those mature, more more mature animals out a little better. Leier. Are you finding a lot of bucks are traveling on their own at this point? Are they still hung up in those bachelor groups? Yeah, funny thing, you know. So all the animals that we're seeing right now, UM are hard horns there you know, they've already stripped velvet. UM. Montana legalized trail cameras for for this year, so Powder River has been running some trail cameras as well. UM. And everything that we're seeing is is hard horned. UM. Some very young, very very immature, you know, like spikes are holding velvet. But that's to be expected. UM. With that, though, we are still seeing bachelor groups. UM. All of the bucks that Brady and I have seen, they've all been with other bucks. UM. Last evening, UH, one of our guys, Clint Schwak, who I'm sure you guys are familiar with. UM. Clint had a great set on the river. So UM again with these dry hot conditions, they're using these water sources and UM, just like anywhere else, you know, I think that they tend to to take ownership of you know, whether it's a bait site or agriculture site in Midwest, whatever it is, they tend to take, you know, take ownership of those spots. And last night clin hunting over right on the Powder River. And I think, um, you know, a good buck showed his dominance and in taking the ownership of that whole of that water hole on the river. UM, and and Clint had a good eight point step out and just act a little intimidated about something. Um and maybe thirty seconds later then the mature buck popped out, all bristled left, just like you know, he's ready to go, like we would expect to see. Um. But funny enough, they're still they're still group they're still grouped up out here in those bachelors bachelor pets. So we sound optimistic. What do you think that buck movement's gonna look like in the skill of one to ten in this next week or still from Montana? Well, we've we've been optimistic the whole time, just because we're in Powder River. You know, this is a world renowned place for any white tael hunter or any any hunter for that matter. Um, it's it's sportsman paradise out here. Um. You know, Brady and I are absolutely having to blast every sit. I think combined over the last three sits we've seen more out here and brought us Montana Powder River than we did combined all you know last season. So there's just high numbers which keeps us happy and and optimistic about what might pop out at any minute. But with these weather changes, you know, I think we go from probably a five over the last few days too, I would expect things to bump up around seven to eight even um if if the weather holds, if the forecast holds to what it is, UM, you know, we may get a little bit of moisture UM, but definitely a change in them in the wind and and TIMPs. So it might be that bump that that we all like to see this time of year. UM. So I say over the next few days, probably all let's give it a strong seven and a half. What do you think about that? That sounds good? All right? T J, Well, good luck to you and the rest of the Virtue TV crew. Thanks for joining me. Absolutely. I appreciate the opportunity. You guys have a great week and uh, and stay safe out there alright and joining us online. Next is Pat Cutter from Red Hand Outdoor Company in New Jersey. Pat in New Jersey, what would you say the bucket activities ben lately? On a scale of one to ten UM, I would say, Uh, if you're talking about the past couple of days, I would say it's more like a four or five out of out of ten. I would say last week, um, opening weekend was very good. Um, probably like an eight out of ten. But the past couple of days it's it's slowed down a bit pretty much due to the white oaks dropping. So now you guys have had some recent success at Red Hand Outdoor Company hunting in New Jersey. On that opener, tell us a little bit about those setups that you had. Yeah, um, my, my buddy Brian, he killed um a four and a half year old UM. I think was September tenth, I believe, and uh he's he was hunting um a suburban area and uh it's legal to bait here, so he was. He was running a bait on about six six acre piece um all all summer long. He had two shooters on there, and one of them being this uh a split rowl eight pointer. So um he made a perfect shot on that deer. And and then the next night, UM, I was actually hunting about an hour away. I lease about a three acre agg farm. It's alfalfa and corn pretty much. And uh, I've I have a number of shooters on that farm this year. And the one the one field I witnessed on Sunday night. Uh, we're your four shooters come out on the north end of the field, and um, we got a south wind on Tuesday, so I was able to slip in there on that north end, get a stand in one of the cedar trees and uh, let's able to capitalize on a forty five yard shot on a five year old that we know is lump face. If you were still hunting right now, do you think the field edge would still be relevant for you on that farm? No, I don't. Um My, my brother is actually on the lease as well. At the Agg fields have pretty much dried up and that's due to the white oaks are really heavily dropping right now. And you know he's hunted a couple of times and the deer activity has just you know, John straight downhill. Um, he did hunt and oak there. There's a cattle pasture leading into one of these south Alpha fields and there's several big white oaks in there. And he did hunt out of one of those white oaks last night and he saw I think eight or ten deer. No no shooters, but they were they were feeding on the oaks heavy. And when do you think that alf Alpha field is going to be useful to hunt again? Do you think within a week or so? Or might it be October before you're doing some setups there. I would say from past experience, early October they'll start to get pretty good again. Um, you can still catch deer here here and there on them, but um, you know Oaks is where it's at right now. And are you guys catching any weather from Florence? Uh, now that it's made landfall or not? Yes, we are. Actually I'm sitting in the truck getting poured on right now. Um. The storm actually looped up and now we're catching the rain from it right now. It rains pretty heavy yesterday afternoon and it should be lightening up this afternoon. Um, so me and my brother actually going out this afternoon. We got pictures on a cell cam last night of two shooters and another part of the farm and like kind of like an oak bottom. So we're gonna try to capitalize on that tonight. Do you put any stuck into what the moon might be doing? I know later this week, Um, we have a fees a phase that some hunters are excited about. But how about you guys in New Jersey? I do I do believe in it. Um. This week we are approaching that full moon and you know, as you've heard, probably marjury say a hundred times that leading up to that full moon um and and enhances that feeding pattern. And uh, I do agree with that. So if you're out there and you and you're on some some hot white oaks, I think you know, this week's a good time to get out there going forward, then it's next week or so. What do you think that bucket activity will be on a scale of one to ten in New Jersey? If you're on some good, good white oaks, I think that the hunting could be probably a six or seven out of ten. But if not, I think you're looking at more of a four out of ten. So it all it all depends if you're in the right spot pretty much. All right, Pat, Well, good luck to rest this season, and congrats on that great buck that you and your buddy got. Thanks for joining me. Thanks bets to appreciate it alright and joining us on the line. Last is Mike hahn Sucker from heart Lambo Hunter in Missouri. Now, Mike in Missouri, what would you say the bucket activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten? Oh? I probably say, you know, uh, probably six or seven. Haven't been that been that great? Uh? The deer some moving that is moving very last wide of things because it's just been super super hot. What is your strategy then, Um, mid September like this when it's super we're hot. If you were trying to get a mature about on the drought, I mean, we're we This is actually one of my favorite times of you to hunt. And um, it doesn't have to be you know, perfect weather to deer. You know, been doing the same thing all summer long. They've been there. You know, they're used to the heat too. So UM, they're still moving, they're just not moving as early and as good as they would uh with a little front coming through. But we actually haven't been hunting yet here in Missouri. I've only been gauting in the past couple of nights, trying to make up for being being gone and being in Montana for the first two week of September. So trying to put the legwork in now. But some of our guys that have been out hunting are seeing you know, decent activity. Um. I set the biggest factor right now for for us as the acorns are starting to drop here in Missouri and you know what typically would be being filled with thirties or forty deer and it every night is you know, we're seeing keep to ten you know, fewer deer and um, they're just not keen on the beans as much. They're starting to turn as well, depending on when they got planted. Um, the one who got planted earlier in the year started starting to turn a little bit, and so that that has effected just as well. So now I know you mentioned you've been scouting these last couple of evenings, but do you also have some value in trail cameras this time of year as well? Or if you're going to kill a buck, is it because you've laid your own eyes on him. Yeah, I mean trail cameras obviously are extremely important. Um, but you know it's just time of year you're really tough to get them on camera. I mean there's just a lot of food and a lot of places and so um, you know there's typical you know, we have these typical spots of um, you know, crossings and areas where we get pretty solid trail campictures year round. But um, when it comes to like the soybeans, like you know, the buck can come out of the field and so many different places and just feed down the middle of the field, but really can be a difficult time of year to get pictures of them. So I love being able to glass and being able to see the whole field and and and kind of sit back on the are and uh then scat it out. And a lot of times, you know, right now I'm doing that from the truck or from on foot. You know, I can like get up to advantage point to where I can see that, but um, a lot of times I'll do it from a from a stand that may be a standard. You know, you're probably not going to kill anything out of it, but you know, you get in there, set up at your bow, and and you never know, but it's looks nice as you know, you would be far enough away to where you can kind of last everything. And if you know you don't see anything close, you can slip out early, you know, undetected. So now, last season, you killed a big buck at the end of September. Is there anything from that hunt or or in seventeen that you think you could apply to late September this year? Yeah, I mean, I think, um, over the past ten years or so, I mean, I've had a ton of success the first week or two of Missouri season. UM, and it's one of my favorite time of the year to to hunt because you're you know, if you're turning specific bucks, they don't get any more patterable. Um, you're out there killing you know, any mature buck might be better during the rup, but if you're tarting one civic bucks, there's no better time than this time of year. Or so. Last year we just had really consistent weather the first two weeks of season. Just it wasn't this hot and that it is this year. But it was just solid like mid eighties or eighties, I believe all, you know, all the first two weeks, and we finally got a cold front. Um that that pushed through. There was a big enough you know system to make a difference than that with the that I killed that bucks. That was the first real real cold from the year. This year, it looks like that's gonna be coming for USA Missouri. UM Friday, So it's gonna be coming in Thursday, Thursday evening and thinking on Friday. So the highest goal from the nineties to the seventies, UM, so twenty degree swinging temperature is a huge, huge difference, And imagine a lot of deer go down this weekend. I know you guys do a great job of keeping tabs on all your deer with their bettinghere they're feeding stuff like that. Do you notice any betting changes from mid September here, maybe till mid October? Something metal make you guys change your strategy once the calendar turns. Yeah, I think it kind of just depends on a deer um. Actually, with a particular deer that I'm trying the key on right now. It's a deer that he summers on on our property every year, and then he many leaves and so he's I got pictured of them on September twelve, but I haven't seen him and got fictured of them since, and so I'm a little bit I'm a little bit worried. I'm assuming he's gone, which is fine, but he's the bucket I'm gonna focused on now. But I do have another deer um that I'm really anxious to see if he shows up, because he summers somewhere else and then shows up late September um on our property. So the deer definitely shift, you know, once they start shedding a velvet, they definitely move, and and they get a little more territorial and they change some of their habits and interesting to see, you know, monitoring trail cameras over the years, how consistent they are. I mean, I can tell you this buck is seven year old buck. I believe, um maybe six six or seven, but um he uh every single year, you know, within a few days is when he when when when he leaves the property, and then um, you know when he shows back up. It's always within a few days. So it's amazing how how they get in their habits and how they're patterns changed just like that every single year that wants exactly the same going forward. Then this next week or so, what do you think that Bucket TV will be on a scale of one to tending Missouri. Man, it's gonna be about as good as it gets in my opinion. I think this this weekend, Um, I think you're gonna see it up probably round of nine. How I guess, Um, you know Friday through Um, really you know there's a there's it warms back up a little bit um early next week and then another front comes is supposed to be coming through, so it go will be some variable variable weather which is good for the activity. So I'm look before we just spend some time in the field this next week. Alright, Mike, I like your confidence. Thanks for joining me, Thanks for having me a ship. And that concludes this week's episode of Wired to Haunt's Wrote Radio. A special thanks to Tony and t J. Patrick and Mike for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. As always, make sure you follow Wired Haunt on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and follow rout Fresh on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well. Good luck to everyone out there, and stay wired to Haunt.

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