00:00:10 Speaker 1: Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. And there is a prize. Meat Eater will donate $ 500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. I'm your host, Giannis Patelis, and today we're joined by... Brody Henderson, Mark Kenyon, Spencer Newharth, Randall Williams, Matt Miller, and Laura Muscari. This is a 10 round quiz show with questions from Meat Eaters four verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. Meat Eater trivia is brought to you by one of our favorite beers, Bush Light. Bush Light, head for the mountains. All right, we're gonna start off today with a mailbag question. If you have a question, You want the trivia crew to answer, then send your question with the subject line mailbag to trivia at themeateater.com. Brett R. wrote in to ask. 00:01:07 Speaker 2: Brent or Brett? 00:01:08 Speaker 1: Brett. 00:01:09 Speaker 3: Two Ts. 00:01:10 Speaker 1: I have a bit of hunting, bit of a hunting fishing predicament that I need some advice on. My dad was the one who got me into hunting and fishing, and I have since passed that on to my daughter. The issues we are having are... When we plan a trip, my dad goes over the top with everything. Overpacking, knows everything about everything, and always corrects my daughter. And from trying... Not always the best writing here. Whoa! Can we cut that, Phil? I'm going to keep that one in. 00:01:44 Speaker 4: Um. 00:01:47 Speaker 1: He's trying to correct his daughter from trying new things in new places. He's, like, limiting her experience. It's kind of making hunting and fishing with him unbearable. My daughter doesn't really get excited anymore about them, which is crushing me. Her and I will plan a trip, then he invites himself and, for lack of better terms, ruins it. I'd appreciate some advice on how to approach this subject with him. Man. 00:02:10 Speaker 4: Tricky. 00:02:11 Speaker 2: Just have some. 00:02:13 Speaker 5: father-daughter trips like he doesn't the granddaddy doesn't need to go on every trip that's a good one and then just like have like so we have a grandfather trip and you're just like daughter you're just gonna have to suck it up for a couple days i know it's rough but so when. 00:02:31 Speaker 1: You make the one that's only the dad daughter and then grandpa comes in he's like hey uh, I'm bringing the camper and I've got Friday night dinner covered. 00:02:40 Speaker 5: I would explain to him that, look, I just want some kind of quality time with, with my daughter. 00:02:45 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:02:47 Speaker 1: Anybody else? 00:02:48 Speaker 6: I think I would just have a honest conversation with dad in a nice way, like a little compliment sandwich, maybe in there. 00:02:55 Speaker 1: Like, I love hanging out with you. 00:02:56 Speaker 6: And hunting and sharing this time with our, with my daughter, but here's a couple of things we've noticed. And, you know, hopefully you've got a good enough relationship with your dad. You can have that, uh, That'd be okay. 00:03:08 Speaker 5: His dad is probably just super excited to be involved and he's overdoing it, you know? 00:03:14 Speaker 4: Just tell him you want her to figure out some stuff on her own. 00:03:18 Speaker 7: And I think the dad should acknowledge with the daughter, like, hey, I see this is happening too. I know that sucks for you. I can tell that's no fun. Like, you know, I'm sorry it's that way. It's just like, Granddad is just that excited to hang out with us. And we'll try to correct that in the future. And like, you're not doing anything wrong. It's not on you. I think that would go. 00:03:39 Speaker 3: A long ways too. 00:03:40 Speaker 7: If you were like, hey, I'm also seeing that this is happening. I'm sorry for that. 00:03:44 Speaker 3: You know what? 00:03:45 Speaker 6: If Spencer would ever, you know, level up from cats, I think you'd be a great dad. 00:03:49 Speaker 3: I know. 00:03:49 Speaker 2: That's what I tell him. 00:03:50 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:03:51 Speaker 4: Right. 00:03:51 Speaker 1: You got to hold the faith, Spencer. 00:03:52 Speaker 4: Uh-huh. 00:03:54 Speaker 7: Too selfish though. 00:03:56 Speaker 1: Anybody else want to add to this? 00:03:58 Speaker 4: I just think you could, you could even say one of the things I most appreciated about our time hunting when I was young was you let me figure things out on my own dad. And I don't want us to like do everything for so-and-so daughter. 00:04:14 Speaker 6: But then he's going to say, well, now I know you're lying through your teeth because I never let you figure things out for yourself. 00:04:19 Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like this isn't how he always was, you know? Hmm. 00:04:24 Speaker 1: Right, because Brett had a good hunting upbringing. Yeah, he loved it. 00:04:28 Speaker 4: He loved it. 00:04:28 Speaker 7: Man, I think we solved this one. 00:04:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good. That was good. Laura, Matt? 00:04:34 Speaker 8: I mean, I would just say like, it's a great opportunity for a gentle reminder that some of the best opportunities for learning are to make mistakes. Some of my most fond memories were getting out with my dad. And I just think it's, yeah, an opportunity to really tell him like, hey, there's a time and a place. And I like what Brody said. Sometimes just, head out on your own trip. 00:04:56 Speaker 1: Man yeah you guys are good because i would have just taken it straight to chill the out man wow. 00:05:02 Speaker 4: That's a good sense it makes it sound like it's impossible to to get away i maybe you're over sharing your plans i like to keep a bit of secrecy. 00:05:13 Speaker 1: Yeah you know you're right i do i kind of share everything i got. 00:05:16 Speaker 5: Going on tell them you're going to a like a barbie doll convention or something yeah care just. 00:05:21 Speaker 1: Why all right let's get on to the game the jennifer index for today is a five oh all right now that was with a little bit of help but i gave her five it was like a four and a half to five so our winner should could get 10 correct answers putting us on perfect game alert and with that we're on to the game of trivia play the drop bill. 00:05:46 Speaker 4: Look i need to know what i stand to win to everything How's that? You just tend to win everything. 00:06:00 Speaker 1: Game on, suckers! Sorry, I'm sending Spencer a note right now on Slack. 00:06:07 Speaker 7: Uh-oh. 00:06:08 Speaker 1: As always, please help. The first question is multiple choice. And this week, it's also our listener submitted question, which was sent in by Brian Bierkley. Sorry if I mispronounced that, Brian. For submitting this great question, Brian will receive a $ 150 gift card from First Light. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia at themeateater.com. The question is, what animal did Steve hunt on the very first episode of Meat Eater? Is it A, mountain goat, B, black bear, C, black-tailed deer, or D, Brody, quick to answer. Randall's also writing. Maybe he's drawing. 00:06:58 Speaker 4: I'm drawing, yeah. 00:06:59 Speaker 1: He's drawing the answer. 00:07:01 Speaker 4: No, I'm drawing something unrelated to the answer. Okay. I think it's a good question. 00:07:06 Speaker 1: The question is, what animal did Steve hunt on the very first episode of Meat Eater? A, mountain goat, B, black bear, C, black-tailed deer, or D, javelina? 00:07:19 Speaker 2: Do you guys watch this show? 00:07:22 Speaker 3: No. 00:07:27 Speaker 7: I don't care for it, but my wife, she loves this show. 00:07:30 Speaker 3: Just like Walking Dead. I watched the first two seasons, then I was out. 00:07:34 Speaker 1: Does everybody have an answer? 00:07:35 Speaker 7: Did Steve get this one right, you think? 00:07:37 Speaker 1: Probably not. Depends on if he's brought in so much information that there's things kind of leaking out in the back now, but I don't know. Guy's got kind of a steel trap for a brain. Like you two as well. Everybody have an answer? All right, go ahead and reveal your answers, please. Randy says mountain goat, Mark, black-tailed deer, Spencer, black-tailed Laura, mountain goat, Matt, black-tailed, Brody, black bear. The correct answer is C, black-tailed deer. All right. 00:08:14 Speaker 7: I thought Brody had that one. 00:08:16 Speaker 1: In episode one of season one, Steve hunts black-tailed deer on Prince of Wales Island. Episode two, he hunts black bears. 00:08:24 Speaker 2: Well, that was the real thing. 00:08:25 Speaker 1: Somewhere in Alaska. Mountain goats in episode four and javelina in episode nine. I had nothing to do with producing the first season. In season two, which was filmed 14 years ago, I helped on the dull sheep and caribou hunts and the rest is history. There are 12 seasons of Meat Eater available on YouTube right now, and it is great entertainment to go back and watch the old ones. I feel like we could actually rebrand it as Young Meat Eater, because all of us look like kids in those early episodes. All right, on to question two. This is conservation. This bird, listed as vulnerable by the IUCN... adorns the lid of the world's most famous shoe polish. 00:09:17 Speaker 5: Huh. 00:09:18 Speaker 4: Oh. 00:09:19 Speaker 1: Man, I thought that this was going to be an easy one. 00:09:23 Speaker 5: I wish I was at home so I could check my shoe polish. 00:09:27 Speaker 1: Any of us own shoe polish? 00:09:29 Speaker 4: No. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: Randall keeps a ton of shoe polish in his pocket at all times. 00:09:32 Speaker 1: Oh, no, that's not a shoe polish. 00:09:36 Speaker 7: Vulnerable. 00:09:38 Speaker 4: I think I have some shoe polish. 00:09:40 Speaker 6: No idea. 00:09:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like... Well, I don't want to give too many hints here. The room looks like they need hints. 00:09:51 Speaker 3: I can see the thing in my head. 00:09:52 Speaker 1: This bird, listed as vulnerable by the IUCN, adorns the lid of the world's most famous shoe polish. 00:10:02 Speaker 6: Hmm. 00:10:05 Speaker 8: I can't even think of a vulnerable bird at the moment, let alone shoe polish. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: Hmm. 00:10:12 Speaker 1: Jeez. 00:10:14 Speaker 4: What a stumper. 00:10:17 Speaker 1: Sorry, I was trying to pitch some softballs. This is an easy one for old Jennifer Jones. 00:10:25 Speaker 4: Why does she know this? 00:10:27 Speaker 5: Because she polishes Janusz's shoes. 00:10:32 Speaker 1: I do have a tin that I use usually once a year when I go to the one wedding or whatever function where I have to wear a suit and a pair of shoes and I bust out the tin. 00:10:42 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:10:44 Speaker 3: He's got one of those high-raised chairs they have in midtown from the 50s. He sits down, snaps Jennifer over. 00:10:52 Speaker 1: My plan is always instead to bring my shoes through the airport so I can actually get them shined up by a professional. 00:11:01 Speaker 7: You wouldn't even wear them on that trip. You would just travel with them to get them polished. 00:11:06 Speaker 4: No, no, no. That's one of those things when I saw it as a kid, I thought, I'll do that someday when I'm an adult. And look at you now. No closer. 00:11:16 Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel so demeaning. 00:11:17 Speaker 4: I do think I have some shoe polish in my reloading cabinet. 00:11:23 Speaker 3: Good place for shoe polish. 00:11:24 Speaker 9: All right. 00:11:25 Speaker 1: If you don't have an answer, you're just going to have to show me a blank board. Go ahead and reveal. Randall says emu. Mark, whooping crane. Spencer, pileated woodpecker. Laura, penguin. Matt, emu. Brody, flamingo. Folks, that's a zero percenter. The answer is... Kiwi. 00:11:44 Speaker 7: Oh! 00:11:44 Speaker 2: I was gonna write Kiwi too, it's red. 00:11:47 Speaker 1: Does that, now that I say it? I see it. Can people see it? No. 00:11:51 Speaker 3: I see it. 00:11:52 Speaker 1: Kiwi shoe polish has been available in 180 countries and accounts for half of the global shoe polish market. The brand was started in 1906 by a Scottish-Australian who named it after his wife, who was from New Zealand. The Kiwi Dome Fern's long beak is a flightless bird about the size of a chicken, but closely related to the ostrich. It lays an egg that is one of the largest in proportion to the bird itself, up to 25% of the female size. That would be like a 150-pound woman giving birth to a 37.5-pound baby. 00:12:25 Speaker 7: Oh, that's great flavor text. 00:12:27 Speaker 1: The Kiwis list is vulnerable, being upgraded from endangered in 2017 due to recovery efforts. The main threats to kiwi are predators such as stoats, dogs, and feral cats. Jennifer and I spent five weeks in New Zealand in 2005 on our honeymoon and did not see a kiwi, but we did meet a lot of nice kiwis and caught a few giant New Zealand trout, which is what I was really after. 00:12:52 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:12:52 Speaker 1: That was good. Question two. 00:12:54 Speaker 4: Does it look like an emu? 00:12:56 Speaker 1: Sorry. No, it doesn't look like an emu. 00:12:58 Speaker 4: But it sounds like it looks like an ostrich. 00:13:02 Speaker 1: No, they're just closely related. 00:13:04 Speaker 4: I wasn't actually trying to get a point. 00:13:06 Speaker 7: They're like smaller than a chicken. 00:13:07 Speaker 4: I was just trying to visualize. It looks like a woodcock. 00:13:08 Speaker 1: No, they are the size of a chicken. 00:13:10 Speaker 7: Okay, the size of a chicken. 00:13:11 Speaker 4: It's kind of like a woodcock. Okay. 00:13:12 Speaker 1: It's got that kind of vibe. But way bigger. Somewhat, yeah. Okay. All right, question three. The blank law was created in 1998 in Colorado after a bull elk named Blank was poached near Estes Park. You just wrote this for Brody. You know, once I was reading this today and doing it with Jennifer, I said, yeah, Brody's going to get this one. 00:13:38 Speaker 2: Everyone should get it. 00:13:39 Speaker 1: The blank law was created in 1998 in Colorado after a bull elk named Blank was poached near Estes Park. So the law was named after this bull elk. 00:13:52 Speaker 4: That doesn't help. Nope. 00:13:56 Speaker 2: So easy. 00:14:05 Speaker 1: Brody, do you feel like it's a hard question? 00:14:08 Speaker 5: I feel like, I'm being honest, there was enough national attention that some. 00:14:15 Speaker 2: People shouldn't know it. 00:14:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. Folks like work in the hunting industry. 00:14:19 Speaker 7: You know this, Randall? 00:14:21 Speaker 4: No, not at all. I was 12 years old. 00:14:23 Speaker 3: Yes, I was going to ask Spencer, how old were you in 1991? 00:14:26 Speaker 1: Six years old. 00:14:27 Speaker 6: Yeah, 11. 00:14:33 Speaker 4: I mean, this isn't an unfamiliar concept to me. I think I've heard the story, but I don't have the name of the bull. 00:14:45 Speaker 1: Okay, one more time. The blank law was created in 1998 in Colorado after a bull elk named Blank was poached. 00:14:52 Speaker 3: Near Estes Park. 00:14:52 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they made a statue of this thing. 00:14:54 Speaker 3: They sure did. 00:14:56 Speaker 2: How old were you in 1998? 00:14:57 Speaker 4: I'm going to change him into a joke. 00:14:59 Speaker 2: It's not important, Matt. 00:15:00 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:15:01 Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead and reveal your answers. Randall says Tiny. Mark says Rocky. Spencer, Magnus, Laura, Blank, Matt, Estes Bull, question mark. Brody says Samson. Technically, it's Samson. No P, but I think we'll give it to him. In 1996, a giant 1,000-pound 7x9 bull elk was poached outside of Estes Park, Colorado, sparking an outrage. The fine assessed to the poacher at the time did not seem to fit the crime, so the Samson Law was created to add monetary punishment to animals whose headgear had trophy status. So now a trophy pronghorn will carry an additional $ 4, 000, an elk $ 10, 000, and a half curl or bigger bighorn sheep carry an extra fine of $ 25, 000. 00:15:46 Speaker 3: I used to think. 00:15:55 Speaker 5: Like, I guess I support the law, but why not have it be that way for like, because it like devalues animals that aren't trope. 00:16:03 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 00:16:03 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:16:04 Speaker 1: I think we've spoken with someone through the years about this, right? Because in general, to me, it seems like wildlife violations don't have, you know, enough meat. Yeah. Enough teeth. You know, they don't really bite because you're like, oh, the guy did this, this and this and it cost him 400 bucks. 00:16:17 Speaker 3: It's like. 00:16:18 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:16:19 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:16:19 Speaker 1: I mean, it's good, but. 00:16:20 Speaker 2: It'd be great if it was that way for everything. 00:16:22 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:16:24 Speaker 1: All right, on to question four. This one is in cooking. Cooks Illustrated defines this seven-letter word as a small, cylindrical, heavy-duty ceramic or stoneware baking dish designed for single-serving recipes. 00:16:44 Speaker 2: Oh, no. 00:16:46 Speaker 1: I'm making it too hard again. Oh, Brody thinks he knows it. He's got to put his head down, meditate. 00:16:53 Speaker 2: I have some. 00:16:53 Speaker 1: Randall wrote a word. 00:16:55 Speaker 4: I think I know this. 00:16:56 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. 00:17:00 Speaker 1: Spencer's got his board down. Did you write down the seven letter? 00:17:04 Speaker 7: I'm afraid I've done this question before. 00:17:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the only reason I know it. Oh, we need a new one then. 00:17:10 Speaker 3: No, I don't think that's how it works. 00:17:11 Speaker 4: That's where I learned this word. I've seen it since then. No. 00:17:15 Speaker 3: Well. 00:17:16 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I did my best. I checked it against the... Yeah, and he checked it with me too. 00:17:22 Speaker 7: There's our last line of defense. 00:17:24 Speaker 2: I pulled out one. 00:17:24 Speaker 3: He had that I knew we had done before, but this one I didn't flag. 00:17:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think we should spend too much time beating ourselves up over. I've got a hole to dig myself out of and Brody seems to be stumped. 00:17:39 Speaker 2: It's not going to come to me. 00:17:40 Speaker 5: I'm going to go home and break these things. 00:17:45 Speaker 1: I'm going to repeat the question. Cooks Illustrated defines this seven-letter word as a small, cylindrical, heavy-duty ceramic or stoneware baking dish designed for single-serving recipes. 00:17:59 Speaker 4: I'm glad you said that, Spencer. Now I feel better about my answer. 00:18:03 Speaker 7: But I could be wrong. 00:18:04 Speaker 4: I'd never heard of this before. 00:18:05 Speaker 2: You're not wrong. 00:18:06 Speaker 5: If you came up with an answer, you know it. Like, I feel like it's all or nothing. 00:18:12 Speaker 3: We'll see. 00:18:13 Speaker 1: Brody, do you need more time? 00:18:14 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. It's just not. I can tell it's not going to work. 00:18:17 Speaker 1: All right, go ahead and reveal your answers. That's it. Randy says ramekin, Mark blank, Spencer ramekin, Laura ramekin, Matt mortis, Brody without an answer. The correct answer is ramekin. The correct spelling is R-A-M-E-K-I-N. Ramekins are commonly used for souffles, creme brulee, and chocolate molten cake. I once saw Chef Andrew Radulowski make single-serving squirrel pot pies and ramekins. 00:18:44 Speaker 2: That's what I use them for. Not necessarily squirrel, but. 00:18:48 Speaker 1: They're usually about three and a half inches wide and hold eight ounces if filled to the brim. At our house, they're commonly used to serve ice cream. The small size of a ramekin makes it easy to limit my ice cream portions, which I need. 00:19:00 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, me too. 00:19:00 Speaker 7: My wife loves them for a good girl dinner. She's just doing a charcuterie board that's got like, this one has some nuts, this one has a spread, this one's got some fruit. All my ramekins got to go through the dishwasher after a girl dinner. 00:19:14 Speaker 4: Hold on. 00:19:14 Speaker 1: What's a girl dinner? You call it a good girl dinner? Yeah. 00:19:18 Speaker 4: What is that? No, a girl dinner that's good. 00:19:21 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:19:21 Speaker 3: What's a girl dinner? 00:19:22 Speaker 7: A girl dinner, it's become a hip phrase in the last five years where it's like, Instead of my supper being a steak and potatoes, it's going to be like just a grazing board of like eight different things that are of small proportions. That would be a girl dinner. 00:19:36 Speaker 4: That was a trivia question. It's a hodgepodge of snacks. 00:19:39 Speaker 7: Hodgepodge of snacks. 00:19:39 Speaker 4: Wives trivia. 00:19:40 Speaker 7: That's a good way to put it. It was on Wives Trivia, I think, two years. 00:19:43 Speaker 4: Ago as well. 00:19:44 Speaker 3: Interesting. 00:19:45 Speaker 5: You got quite a landscape going there, Randall. 00:19:48 Speaker 3: I know. 00:19:48 Speaker 1: Randall is really working out. some free show. Show that to the camera so everybody can see what you got going on. That's gonna be too close. Maybe this one would be better. 00:19:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little out of focus, but it's fine. We can see it. 00:19:57 Speaker 4: Looks great. No, Phil, that's just how blurry. 00:19:59 Speaker 1: Mallons, some evergreens. 00:20:00 Speaker 4: That's just how blurry it is, Phil. 00:20:02 Speaker 7: When we had the question for girl dinner, Seth's wife, Kelsey, was like, the only thing I can think of is girl dinner. And then the whole room got it right. 00:20:11 Speaker 1: All right, we're on to question five. This one is, it's kind of a half conservation, half fishing question. 00:20:21 Speaker 4: Interesting. 00:20:22 Speaker 1: About five miles south of Thermopolis, Wyoming, the Blank River changes its name to the Blank River at a location called the Wedding of the Waters. 00:20:34 Speaker 7: Well, so we need two answers. 00:20:36 Speaker 1: You need two answers. You need the names of two rivers, which are technically one river. 00:20:44 Speaker 5: One time I caught a great big rainbow in this very spot on a chartreuse egg pattern. 00:20:51 Speaker 2: It's named chartreuse. 00:20:53 Speaker 6: It ain't no use. 00:20:54 Speaker 1: Again, the question five. About five miles south of Thermopolis, Wyoming, the blank river changes its name to the blank river at a location called the Wedding of the Waters. 00:21:13 Speaker 3: Big rainbow. 00:21:16 Speaker 4: You know what? 00:21:17 Speaker 7: We'll see. 00:21:18 Speaker 1: Were we together on that trip? 00:21:21 Speaker 7: You wrote this episode for Brody. 00:21:26 Speaker 1: Do you still have the streak going where you've won every episode that I've hosted? 00:21:30 Speaker 7: No, I lost one in there somewhere. Hmm. 00:21:33 Speaker 2: Remember Joel Norikane? 00:21:35 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:21:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a great big one there, too. 00:21:38 Speaker 1: All right, one more time. Five miles south of Thermopolis, Wyoming, the Blank River changes its name to the Blank River at a location called the Wedding of the Waters. Randall and Mark. 00:22:00 Speaker 4: Oh, oh, oh. 00:22:00 Speaker 1: I think I have it. You guys know this Western geography? 00:22:06 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:22:07 Speaker 1: Muscari as an angler? 00:22:10 Speaker 8: I have fished here, and I cannot remember. 00:22:12 Speaker 1: Can you remember one of them? 00:22:14 Speaker 8: I think so. 00:22:14 Speaker 1: All right. 00:22:15 Speaker 3: That's good. 00:22:16 Speaker 1: Matt's out. All right. Everybody's got their answers. Go ahead and reveal your boards, your answers for me. 00:22:22 Speaker 4: I didn't get any of them right. 00:22:24 Speaker 1: Randy says... Don't even. 00:22:26 Speaker 4: Worry about it. 00:22:27 Speaker 1: Something and Powder River. Mark says Big Horn and Wind River. 00:22:31 Speaker 2: He's got it reversed. 00:22:32 Speaker 1: Spencer, Green and Wind. Laura, Wise and Big Horn. Matt, Silk and Powder. Brody says Wind River and Big Horn River. The correct answer is the Wind River changes into the Big Horn River. No one really knows why this is the case. There are lots of theories on the internet. The interesting geography of the area makes it seem like they are two separate rivers. The Wind is 185 miles long and the Bighorn is 276 miles long. If you combine the two for a total of 461 miles, the river is the longest tributary to the Yellowstone River. The Powder River is a close second at 375. And if you add in the South Fork of the Powder River, it goes to 550 miles, which would make it Yellowstone's longest tributary. This naming stuff is not dialed. Brody and I have fished the wind and the Bighorn River on the same day. If I can remember correctly, I caught a bunch of big ones and Brody did not. Although the story he told earlier contradicts that. Phil, it's time for a scoreboard update. 00:23:35 Speaker 3: The many times I've met Jennifer, she's been such a lovely person, but her index is shit. 00:23:41 Speaker 1: Because here we are at halftime. 00:23:44 Speaker 4: Still in it, baby. 00:23:45 Speaker 1: Everyone's on the board. Randall, Laura, and Matt all have one point. 00:23:49 Speaker 2: I think I have more right than that. 00:23:51 Speaker 3: You don't. I just double checked. There's a trail of bodies from the people who have challenged Matt. 00:23:59 Speaker 1: Well, I think the second half is going to be much easier. 00:24:01 Speaker 3: Mark Spencer and Brody have two points, and they are all tied up in the lead. 00:24:05 Speaker 6: Man. 00:24:09 Speaker 7: Jennifer's going to win this episode. 00:24:10 Speaker 1: I know. She just might. She just might. 00:24:12 Speaker 7: All right. 00:24:15 Speaker 1: Question number six. Quiche blank is made with bacon or ham and cheese. This question is in the cooking category. Can't that just be quiche? 00:24:30 Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought that was a quiche. 00:24:32 Speaker 4: What the hell, Giannis? 00:24:36 Speaker 7: Hmm. 00:24:38 Speaker 1: Quiche blank is made with bacon or ham and cheese. 00:24:46 Speaker 7: Do you mean quiche is made with blank bacon or ham and cheese? 00:24:50 Speaker 4: No, it's like a quiche blank. 00:24:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously. This is a specific quiche. It's really the only quiche that has a name. 00:25:05 Speaker 8: This was not on the girl dinner menu. 00:25:08 Speaker 1: I think it could be. 00:25:09 Speaker 2: It could be. 00:25:09 Speaker 1: I've never been a fan of quiche myself. 00:25:11 Speaker 2: How about you, Randall? 00:25:13 Speaker 1: We.... 00:25:19 Speaker 4: Three years ago, we were hosting Christmas at our house and we were in Costco grocery shopping and we saw those big quiches and we're like, oh, you know, it's great. It's a two-pack and that'll be like a breakfast for eight people or whatever. And those things are still in my freezer. 00:25:37 Speaker 3: Can I have one? 00:25:38 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:25:38 Speaker 3: Thank you. 00:25:40 Speaker 1: We make single-serving quiches, not in ramen, but just in muffin tins, and the girls eat them for breakfast. 00:25:49 Speaker 3: I thought you said it was going to be easier. 00:25:54 Speaker 1: Again, quiche blank. I thought everybody knew what this quiche is called. 00:26:00 Speaker 4: Did you eat this on your honeymoon? 00:26:02 Speaker 1: I did not. 00:26:02 Speaker 7: Did you and Brody eat these at the side of the wind river? 00:26:07 Speaker 1: We did not. Is it the bighorn? 00:26:09 Speaker 9: No. 00:26:11 Speaker 1: Quiche blank is made with bacon or ham. 00:26:14 Speaker 5: Not unless they come in a bush-like can. 00:26:16 Speaker 4: It's going to be a really obvious word that's going to make me mad. 00:26:19 Speaker 8: Is this in the joy of cooking? 00:26:21 Speaker 1: Definitely. 00:26:21 Speaker 8: Okay, I'm going to look it up later. 00:26:23 Speaker 1: Okay, is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Randy says, Pancetta, Mark, Porcini, Spencer, Pig, Laura, Keish, Matt, Lorraine, Brody, Keish, American, Matt got it. Keish Lorraine is the correct answer. All quiches originated in the eastern French region of Lorraine. The original recipe was actually made without cheese, and a bready dough more similar to pizza crust was used as opposed to the puff pastry or short crust used today. Purists believe that a quiche can only have three ingredients, eggs, cream, and bacon. The rest of us will take eggs, cream, salt, and anything else you'd like to add to the mixture. I like them all, but somehow I like the original the best. 00:27:13 Speaker 4: Hmm. 00:27:17 Speaker 1: You guys have quiche you like the best? I kind of like spinach and feta and all that other stuff. I'm kind of like, yeah. But when it's just eggs and bacon and cheese? 00:27:26 Speaker 7: Are there like some sweet varieties of quiche? 00:27:28 Speaker 9: Or no? 00:27:28 Speaker 3: I think it's just a pie. 00:27:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of just turns into some kind of a custard. 00:27:33 Speaker 5: We are learning a lot about Giannis' life in this. 00:27:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like the fun facts. 00:27:37 Speaker 1: All right. Question seven. The blank of a tent. 00:27:42 Speaker 3: A lot of blank questions in this game. 00:27:44 Speaker 1: Is an extra piece of fabric that matches the floor size and is designed to protect the floor fabric. 00:27:50 Speaker 4: There we go. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: And keep it drier. This one falls under the gear category. And I also believe it falls under the easy category. Jennifer, when I asked her this question, she said, that's too easy. You should throw it out. 00:28:03 Speaker 7: Hmm. 00:28:05 Speaker 4: This is a great question. 00:28:06 Speaker 8: Yeah, I like it a lot. 00:28:08 Speaker 3: I almost said the same thing to you, Giannis, actually. Like, no joke when I read this question, but the other ones are kind of hard, so I thought it would be a good. 00:28:14 Speaker 1: It's a balance. 00:28:15 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:28:16 Speaker 1: The blank of a tit is an extra piece of fabric that matches the floor size and is designed to protect the floor fabric and to keep it drier. I made the same mistake, Brody. 00:28:28 Speaker 6: I jumped ahead, put down an answer for a different piece of fabric, and then just the last second caught myself, too. 00:28:34 Speaker 1: You should just keep that one. 00:28:35 Speaker 8: Yeah, you were right the first time. 00:28:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were right for sure, Brody. I feel like there's different answers. 00:28:42 Speaker 3: Don't second guess yourself. 00:28:43 Speaker 8: Do not overthink this one. 00:28:46 Speaker 3: I wanna see a Brody-Yannis fight though. 00:28:48 Speaker 2: Well, there could be one coming. 00:28:51 Speaker 3: This whole game has been about their close relationship. 00:28:56 Speaker 1: The question is, the blank of a tent is an extra piece of fabric that matches the floor size and is designed to protect the floor fabric and keep it drier. 00:29:07 Speaker 4: I hope the flavor text references a camping trip that you two took together where Brody forgot this and as a result, your tent was ruined. 00:29:13 Speaker 1: We still laugh about it to this day. 00:29:16 Speaker 3: It's like Slumdog Millionaire. 00:29:18 Speaker 1: At this point in the episode, I was running out of time for flavor text. They're just getting lighter and lighter. Brody's writing something down here. It's the name of his group. 00:29:30 Speaker 7: Chat with Brody and Steve. 00:29:32 Speaker 4: Oh, my God. 00:29:33 Speaker 2: This really does seem to be anyone's. 00:29:35 Speaker 1: Game, though, right now. Yeah, yeah. 00:29:38 Speaker 7: It's going to be a fun scoreboard update. 00:29:42 Speaker 4: Maybe. 00:29:43 Speaker 2: I think either one is pretty successful. 00:29:47 Speaker 7: Yeah, just give them both. 00:29:50 Speaker 1: Maybe I should have. 00:29:50 Speaker 9: Oh boy. 00:29:51 Speaker 1: Maybe I should have given a letter count. 00:29:52 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:29:58 Speaker 7: Randall, give me one of those erasers. We're short an eraser down here. 00:30:00 Speaker 4: Oh, I've got three. 00:30:02 Speaker 2: I can argue with you. 00:30:05 Speaker 4: Careful, one of them stains your board brown. 00:30:07 Speaker 1: If everybody's ready, go ahead and show me your answers. Randall says footprint, Mark footprint, Spencer footprint, Laura footprint, Matt footprint, Brody footprint. 00:30:17 Speaker 7: 100%er! 00:30:17 Speaker 1: We did it. 00:30:20 Speaker 2: Would you have accepted ground cloth? 00:30:24 Speaker 4: No, because it doesn't necessarily match the floor size. 00:30:29 Speaker 2: But it doesn't necessarily not? 00:30:32 Speaker 1: Tent footprints can extend the life of your tent, but I personally don't think they're worth the wait. Maybe if I was going on a long trip where I knew I would be setting the tent on extremely abrasive surfaces every night, I'd pack it along. What does the room think? 00:30:45 Speaker 7: If you're car camping, why not have it? If you're not weight conscious, you should always put down a footprint. 00:30:49 Speaker 2: And I'll give you a. 00:30:50 Speaker 1: Car camping, good. 00:30:52 Speaker 5: Where we camp for our youth hunt, there's a lot of wild rose there. And I had that stuff, a sleeping pad once. 00:31:02 Speaker 1: Oh, really? Right through. 00:31:03 Speaker 4: Boy, I've got a real sleeping pad problem right now. 00:31:07 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:31:08 Speaker 2: Can't find the leak? 00:31:09 Speaker 4: Can't find the leak. 00:31:10 Speaker 2: Oh, man. 00:31:10 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:31:11 Speaker 4: It's a real issue in my house. 00:31:12 Speaker 1: And you tried the whole soapy water thing? 00:31:14 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. 00:31:15 Speaker 4: And I found a leak. And it's still leaking. 00:31:18 Speaker 7: Uh-oh. Calls from inside the house. 00:31:22 Speaker 4: I wish there was a guy in town that would just fix your mattress for cheap. That would be a great business. 00:31:27 Speaker 3: Dip it in Flex Seal. 00:31:28 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be a great business. 00:31:29 Speaker 7: Oh, you know about going through airports? This is not even related at all. There's people who offer to fix your phone battery when you go through the airport. And I'm like, maybe I should just stop and do that sometime. 00:31:38 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. 00:31:38 Speaker 7: Just go to the airport just to get my phone battery fixed. 00:31:41 Speaker 9: What? 00:31:42 Speaker 7: Yeah, I see them all the time now. 00:31:43 Speaker 6: I've never seen that. 00:31:44 Speaker 3: That's handy. Huh. 00:31:45 Speaker 7: I bet it's cheap. There's never a line. But they're also probably stealing my data. 00:31:48 Speaker 1: It seems suspicious. 00:31:49 Speaker 4: It seems highly suspicious. Let me just mess with your electronics really quickly before you get on an airliner. 00:31:57 Speaker 1: On to question number eight. This six-letter word describes an acidic, waterlogged peat bog found in northern boreal and arctic zones of Alaska and Canada. Randall with a quick answer. Brody as well. The rest of the room is rereading the question. This six-letter word describes an acidic, waterlogged peat bog found in northern boreal and arctic zones of Alaska and Canada. 00:32:29 Speaker 3: Randall, I learned this word from the video game we've been playing recently. 00:32:32 Speaker 4: Oh, good. 00:32:34 Speaker 3: A lot of ducks and moose up there. 00:32:35 Speaker 8: Good, good, good. 00:32:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I can't believe that area I found today. I can't either. 00:32:45 Speaker 2: Maybe you should just. 00:32:46 Speaker 4: It's a target rich environment. 00:32:47 Speaker 5: Maybe you should just skip the real hunting yeah uh-huh you. 00:32:51 Speaker 4: Know he's he's getting close i'll be honest yeah. 00:32:53 Speaker 5: Right now don't have to deal with that bad weather and getting tired and hiking up hills and getting. 00:32:59 Speaker 2: Your hands bloody yeah. 00:33:01 Speaker 4: Yeah plus you can sell all the animals this game and buy new guns. 00:33:10 Speaker 1: All right, Brody and Randall have answers. The rest of the room is stumped. This is one of. 00:33:19 Speaker 6: Those where as soon as you reveal it, it's like, ah. 00:33:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a word I've seen. 00:33:22 Speaker 3: Oh, yes. 00:33:22 Speaker 1: She's not there. You two, I would suspect, out of the four left without answers, have probably trod through said peat bog. 00:33:34 Speaker 7: Hmm. 00:33:38 Speaker 4: Brody and I spent a night camped. 00:33:44 Speaker 1: We definitely have. Yeah, that's the problem is that camping where these things are found is very difficult because of the moisture content. 00:33:55 Speaker 7: Even with the footprint. 00:33:57 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. 00:33:59 Speaker 1: Even with the footprint. 00:34:05 Speaker 4: Oh. 00:34:05 Speaker 2: Give up. You're not going to get it. 00:34:06 Speaker 1: The players that don't have an answer, really. 00:34:10 Speaker 7: I will not get it. 00:34:10 Speaker 1: It's like there's a little ball sort of maybe jostling around in Mark's head that's bouncing from side to side. He's hoping it's going to knock the answer loose. 00:34:28 Speaker 4: Yes, actually. 00:34:29 Speaker 2: It's right there. 00:34:30 Speaker 6: I can see it now. 00:34:32 Speaker 1: Oh, we can see it. 00:34:33 Speaker 3: I can see the Survivorman, dude, saying this word, and I can't. 00:34:37 Speaker 1: Les Stroud? 00:34:38 Speaker 3: Yep, I can't get it. 00:34:39 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. Some of that might come in the flavor text. All right, Mark's giving up. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Randy says muskeg. Mark, not an answer. Spencer, swamp marsh. Laura, no answer. Matt, swamps. Brody, muskeg. Their correct answer is muskeg. We at the Meat Eater production crew have hiked through countless miles of muskeg on different Alaska shoots. Most often, it seems like we find ourselves sloshing through muskegs when we're in pursuit of black-tailed deer or moose. Muskeg forms in cool, rainy regions where poor drainage creates waterlogged, acidic conditions that stunt plant growth. Slow decomposition of submerged plant debris leads to the accumulation of peat, eventually forming muskeg deposits over 30 meters deep. Musk eggs can be dangerous. Although it resembles a grassy plain, musk egg is actually a deceptive, waterlogged and hazardous landscape of stunted trees and hidden water that can collapse beneath significant weight. 00:35:43 Speaker 2: He says it's dangerous. 00:35:44 Speaker 5: One time me and Steve and him were hiking through some musk egg and I Went in up to my hips and they just laughed and kept walking. 00:35:53 Speaker 1: Well, Brody went up to his hips. In Northern Ontario, there's a legend that in the 1870s, Muskeg swallowed a train and a thousand feet of track when a track was accidentally laid on the Muskeg. Did that happen? It's a legend. 00:36:11 Speaker 4: That's all I can find about it. You'll have to ask the muskeg. 00:36:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:36:14 Speaker 4: If I may, if I may plug. 00:36:16 Speaker 7: Was it covered in the Alaska book? 00:36:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, in the Alaska book coming out October 20th. Okay. We have a story about a guy. I found this newspaper article. Guy went missing. Maybe a year or two years later, they found part of his head and two beaver skulls with broken teeth. And as best they could determine, he had fallen in the muskeg with a heavy load on his back and drowned or died of exposure and then a bear ate him. And the beaver skulls, the broken teeth were because they'd gotten caught in his traps. And so they basically figured he had two beavers on his back walking through the muskeg Fell, died, and then a bear basically got rid of all the evidence. Wow. Another one of the, there's a lot of really weird haunting stories in that period. 00:37:11 Speaker 7: I'm going to buy that book. 00:37:12 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, you should. October 20th, anywhere you get your audio books, go do it now. 00:37:19 Speaker 1: What a plug. We didn't even plan that. All right, Phil, it's time for another scoreboard update. Tell us who is left in the game. 00:37:27 Speaker 2: Everybody. 00:37:28 Speaker 1: My goodness. 00:37:30 Speaker 3: Left in the game. But Brody is in first place with four points. 00:37:36 Speaker 4: Brody is the only one who could exceed the Jennifer index. 00:37:41 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the Jennifer index estimated that someone would get ten points. 00:37:46 Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. 00:37:46 Speaker 3: Because Jennifer got five. But we've got Randall, Mark, Spencer, and Matt behind Brody. They've got three points. Laura has two. 00:37:54 Speaker 4: Geez. 00:37:56 Speaker 9: Wow. 00:37:57 Speaker 2: Just another Giannis episode. 00:37:59 Speaker 1: I hope you guys are having fun. All right. Question number nine. A chipotle pepper is a smoked blank pepper. Brody's got an answer. Randall's got an answer. Mark's also writing. 00:38:17 Speaker 2: Everyone's got an answer. 00:38:18 Speaker 1: Spencer's writing. 00:38:19 Speaker 4: I was hoping this was a question about chipotle. 00:38:22 Speaker 1: A chipotle pepper is a smoked blank pepper. Everybody feel good about their answers? No, but you got something written down. 00:38:36 Speaker 4: I bet we all have the same answer. 00:38:37 Speaker 1: All right. Let's go ahead and reveal your answers. Randall says adobo. 00:38:42 Speaker 4: No. 00:38:43 Speaker 1: Mark, jalapeno. Spencer, jalapeno. Laura, Anaheim. Matt, adobo. Brody, jalapeno. The correct answer is jalapeno. Jalapeno spend most of their life green, but at the end of the season, they turn red. The leftover red jalapenos are picked to be turned into chipotle peppers. The red jalapenos are smoked for several days until they lose 90% of their moisture. Chipotles are commonly found canned in adobo sauce. But turning up straight dried, chipotle shouldn't be too hard. Just go to your local carniceria. For a recipe using chipotles, you can try Chef Lucas Leaf's venison burrito bowl on the Meat Eater website. Lucas makes venison tinga for the protein which is flavored with cumin, oregano, tomatoes, garlic, apple cider vinegar, and chipotle peppers. 00:39:36 Speaker 4: Go to my local what? 00:39:37 Speaker 1: Carniceria. 00:39:38 Speaker 7: The Mexican grocer? 00:39:40 Speaker 8: Where is that in Bozeman? 00:39:41 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:39:42 Speaker 2: We got one in Four Corners. 00:39:43 Speaker 1: Four Corners has one. 00:39:44 Speaker 4: 15-year-old girl's birthday party. 00:39:48 Speaker 1: That's a quesadilla. Randall, you knew that. All right, Phil, we need another correct answer. Oh, no, no, no. Sorry. Oh, you guys want a correct answer review or scoreboard update? 00:39:59 Speaker 3: Dealer's choice. Let's do one more update since the game's so close. Brody got that right, so he's up to five points. Randall slipped up. He dropped down to three. So behind Brody with one question left are Mark and Spencer with four points. 00:40:13 Speaker 1: I hate to say it, guys, but Brody's going to do probably pretty good. 00:40:20 Speaker 4: All right. 00:40:20 Speaker 1: A correct answer review. Number one was black-tailed deer. Number two, kiwi. Number three, Samson. Four, ramekin. Five, Wind River to Bighorn River. Six, quiche Lorraine. Seven, footprint. Eight, muskeg. Nine, jalapeno. We're on to question 10. Name six of the 12 grouse species that reside in North America. Again, the question is, name six of the 12 grouse species that reside in North America. Technically, it's not a question. 00:41:13 Speaker 3: It's a demand. 00:41:19 Speaker 1: Demanding that you name six of the 12 grouse species that reside in North America. This is the one where I had to give Jennifer some pushing, urging, reminders of where we've been to remember six of them. 00:41:51 Speaker 4: TikTok is deafening. It's quiet in here. 00:42:00 Speaker 1: Brody is confident. He has six grouse species written down. Randall's still working. Mark is working. Spencer. Has six. 00:42:13 Speaker 7: I think I got some duplicates. 00:42:15 Speaker 4: We'll see. 00:42:15 Speaker 9: This grouse got my dog, Giannis. 00:42:32 Speaker 2: All right. 00:42:35 Speaker 1: One last time. Name six of the 12 grouse species that reside in North America. 00:42:40 Speaker 4: Whenever I think about asking a question like this, I'm deterred by how long it'll take me to read all the answers as I go along the room. 00:42:48 Speaker 2: That makes sense because it looks like you're falling asleep. 00:42:51 Speaker 4: I am. 00:42:52 Speaker 7: He's up too late playing his game. 00:42:55 Speaker 4: No, no. 00:42:55 Speaker 1: All right, Matt. I'm going to still give Matt and Laura another 30 seconds here. They're still thinking it through. 00:43:03 Speaker 4: I stayed up late thinking about playing the game today. And my dog was sneezing a lot last night. 00:43:14 Speaker 1: All right, Randall, go ahead and reveal your answer. And everybody else, too. 00:43:18 Speaker 2: Oh, God. 00:43:19 Speaker 1: Randall says Sage, Ruffed, Blue, Sooty, Spruce, Mountain. Mark, Ruffed, Sage, Dusky, Blue, Sooty, Sharptail. Spencer, Blue, Ruffed, Dusky, Sharptail, Greater Sage, Lesser Sage. Laura, Sage, Sharptail, Dusky, Ruffed, Ptarmigan, Woodcock. Matt, sage, sharptail, roughy, mountain, hun, desert. Brody, rough, sharptail, sage, spruce, dusky, and sooty. Brody got it. The correct answers could be greater sage grouse, Gunnison sage grouse, sharptail grouse, greater prairie chicken, lesser prairie chicken, spruce grouse, rough grouse, sooty grouse, dusky grouse, And those two are the ones that used to be blue. Willow ptarmigan, rock ptarmigan, and finally, white-tailed ptarmigan. Meter's Shoes have brought me in contact with all of the grouse besides Gunnison, greater and lesser prairie chickens, and willow ptarmigan. All of them have been good eating, but I prefer the dusky grouse. It has the lightest colored meat. I found this on the internet. Aldo Leopold wrote in a San Cali automatic. Blah. in a Sand County almanac. The grouse represents only a millionth of either the mass or the energy of an acre. Yet subtract the grouse and the whole thing is dead. God, that guy was great. He loved the grouse. In February, the Trump administration removed ESA protections for the lesser prey chicken. This bird is presently working with less than 10% of its historical habitat. Without protections, its future is grim. If you'd like to support efforts to save this grouse, look into the North American Grouse Partnership or Pheasants Forever, the Nature Conservancy, the Audubon Society, all of which currently have active grouse programs. 00:45:19 Speaker 5: Are they looking to do the same with sage grouse, Mark? 00:45:22 Speaker 7: They've been talking about all sorts of things like that. 00:45:24 Speaker 2: Bad news from that administration. All right. 00:45:28 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:45:28 Speaker 1: I guess that makes Brody the winner. Phil? 00:45:31 Speaker 3: It does indeed. 00:45:31 Speaker 1: Huzzah! 00:45:32 Speaker 7: He got six points. 00:45:35 Speaker 1: Brody gets six. One better. One and a half better than Jennifer. Brody, where would you like to donate your $ 500 to? 00:45:41 Speaker 5: Well, you just mentioned some organizations. 00:45:43 Speaker 2: Let's do one of them. 00:45:44 Speaker 9: Okay. 00:45:44 Speaker 2: The American Grouse Partnership. Is that it? 00:45:47 Speaker 1: Yes. It was.... 00:45:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, North American Grouse Partnership. 00:45:53 Speaker 1: North American Grouse Partnership. 00:45:54 Speaker 7: I don't think we've given to them before. 00:45:55 Speaker 1: We haven't. 00:45:55 Speaker 4: Hey! 00:45:57 Speaker 3: Very good. 00:45:58 Speaker 7: New place for $ 500. Good job, Yanni. 00:46:00 Speaker 1: It was fun. Hey, thank you. Thank you all for listening, watching, listening. Join us next week for more Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. 00:46:11 Speaker 4: Well done. 00:46:11 Speaker 7: Thank you, Yanni. 00:46:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. 00:46:19 Speaker 6: Using those smooth, mellow tones, he lays them questions down. 00:46:23 Speaker 2: And he likes taking those two- and three-year-old bucks. 00:46:33 Speaker 5: And he's an avid amateur rock hound.

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