00:00:08 Speaker 1: This is me Eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening Hunt podcast, you can't predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators are the most comprehensive digital mapping system for hunters. Download the Hunt app from the iTunes or Google play store, nor where you stand with on X. Yeah, I want to revisit um argument we had this morning. Okay, I can't wait before we get out. Oh you know, first, let's introduce couple people because we got Let's we have some people that everyone's used to. Rick Smith's here, Cameraman Extraordinaire, Seth Morris, the flip flop flasher here in the Flesh, and then very special guests Pete Alonso happy to be here, roll out some of the super litives. This kind of stuff makes you uncomfortable. Roll out the super I'll do it for you. Thank you. Okay, your first Major League baseball year, you're a rookie with the New York Mats, and you hit more home runs than than any rookie in the history of the world. Yeah. Not only that he had so many damn home runs that he breaks the rookie record, but then hits more home runs than anyone rookie or not for the year. Yeah, I mean, and won the home run Derby. This is a this is a special year. But what did the uh what did the thing on my rifles say? It says you gotta have a high ass? High ass? That's right? Explain that, yeah, exactly. No, what did I say your rifle? Home run King? That's right, home run King. Yah, you're comfortable with that. Absolutely, that's that's my thing. So the home run King is here, and then uh, Yanni's back from assignment. He still hasn't listened to that, so we made of all with Yanni highlights. Did you listen to it yet? I will to maybe tomorrow on every plane ride home, I'll try. It really surprises me that you wouldn't listen. I would feel that because like you're like a co host and everything that if you weren't there, you'd listen just out of like a sense of obligation. Listen. I really want to, but you know, my to do list is long. Maybe it was just a nice break. And then our other very special guests, Houndsman, Uh Cody. When you use your last name, I know you'd like to be a little under the radar in life. Yeah, just a little bit. It'd be our eyes Steve Cody. Yeah, there you go. I like that. Good to be here. Yeah, give me a favorite Cody and pull your mic a little closer to your mustache. There you go like that. Yeah, Um, I want to get to the fight me and Yanni had. But I think the real quick I want to say about Cody, uh, probably the more most interest. If I was still a magazine writer, I would be after you hard about the fact that you one of your many revenue streams comes from retrieving wild catching wild cattle. That's a fact with hound dogs, Yes, sir, can you explain real quick the folks what like, uh like, what constitutes a wild wild cattle. Most of the ranches around here they'll have some domesticated livestock gon Ferrell, Right, they've been tried to been rounded up together, but the resources they have are limited, meaning that they ride out and try to chase it with a quad runner exactly. Yeah, everything we do, most everything we do is horseback and with dogs, you know, catch to baby to catch. So the rancher will call up and he'll be like, I rounded everything up, but there's ten I can't catch exactly, then Dante put the hounds down, right, But how do the hounds? How do the hounds um? How do they know where to drive it? Like I can picture that they would catch it and surround it, and that's what they do ultimately. Like the stuff that's really wild, you want to uh the dogs to see it first. They don't. You shouldn't even be in the picture for quite some time. And you want to sneak in real easy because what they're scared of, obviously is a human being. You know, they haven't had bay dogs on them. But you bay them up. Ultimately, you bay them up and then easy and and he's out, easy in and then until you until you close the distance, and then you start roping them. And so that's what you're doing, subduing the creature. Yeah, right, you're throwing a lariat around it exactly. I thought you somehow we're driving them with the dogs. Well, you can do that the dogs and follow you and push the cow along and they will, like I have some dogs like three or four that'll bay and then if you ride in, they'll opposet me and go to the other side of the cattle and then push cattle to the horse, and then the cattle get a sense of security and they come to the horseback, you know, the rider, and then you can you can go in some pretty rough country and get some pretty pretty bad stuff out that way. Uh what would be? How many can you catch in today? Oh gosh, depends on how bad they are, you know, and how much they've been molested throughout their life, and how many tricks they know, you know, has some stuff just been quattered around and kind of you know, messed with their pretty pretty easy to change their mind, but if they've been through it a bunch. Have you ever met when you couldn't catch How many have you ever caught in a single day? Oh gosh, it just depends, Like bay ups, I would say, on a good day, with help, of course, you know, usually have some cowboys helping me just to tie and or whatever rope once we get getting bade up with the dogs. But man, i'd say, on a good day and really good pickings, you know, twenty head, you know, and sometimes you'll strike a deal where the ranch are so fed up with them, you'll strike a deal where you'll you'll get a the sale price exactly everything you can catch, right they're ready to set that, the ranch is ready to sacrifice that to get you someone to catch them, most definitely, because what happens is like on a on a on the big outfits, you'll have some pretty wild or feral cattle that will teach your good cattle bad habits, you know, and so that incentivizes them to get them off exactly. You know, you might get you some really good angus or you know, a good commercial herd, and you want to interject it into a ranch that has some wild stuff on it. Well, you'll start losing pieces because they you know, they'll start ganging up together and got Yeah, you gotta start with a clean slate, like yeah, and then you'll go as far as so you live in southern Colorado and you'll stray as far as Utah, Nevada. Yeah, we'll cast some cattle out in California even Yeah. How long do you stay? How long do you stay when you go out to catch cattle just kind of depends on the project and how many there is, and you know, on what condition your horses and dogs are in. After a while, sometimes it beat you up a little bit, you know, and you camp out while you're doing it. Most certainly, Yes, sir. Have you ever stayed somewhere for a month catching wild cattle? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I was out in the Utah desert for about six months, kind of taking care of a place that what's pretty rugged and wild, just catching cows. Yeah, that's a hell of a business. How do people find you got a name for your business? Are you looking for more business? I don't at the present time, but yeah, we're doing all right. So you don't need to. You don't need to like you got you don't put a plug in here. I don't imagine you have like a website. No, sir, Yeah, I don't even have electricity at my house. And I take that back. I did get solar about four months ago, two hundred and sixty five panels. So how many dogs you got? How many horses you got? Just a couple? Do you bring that whole slew of dogs when you go to catch wild cattle? Oh? I got some dogs in particularly that stay home, like I got just one or two. But for the most part, everybody goes. Even my lion dogs like or hog dogs. They all they're multipurpose. So you got like hog dogs, lion dogs, and cattle dogs. And they're all the same dogs. Yes, okay, they's got wiry different hats. Yeah, how do you how do you keep your lion dogs from running lions when they're when you're chasing cattle And that's the thing like usually you're in and I wouldn't mind it, you know, if they did kind of go do their deal, as long as they're staying straight on what I want. But usually if you set your dog down in cattle country, you're the likelihood that you catching the line is you know, slim to none. And when you go hunt a hog, you're you're in cattle country, but there's usually not a lot of lions in hog country. Well how do you how does he know where these running hogs or cattle? Well, you put them on them, you know, you start the track and say that's what we're gonna hunt today, man. And they're smart dogs, you know. I started out my ultimately, my the first dogs that I had was mostly Catahoula, and then I injected a little bit of red tick English red tick into him and then now I went to some Argentine dogo with the mix. But you know, they're they're fast, fast to catch, and they'll still put their nose on the ground to trail and they're fun to hunt. Yeah you're saying, you're telling I mean one of your lion hounds. Um, we'll visually track the line, but you'll see the track right and run along and just check it now and then. But he said he can still grind it out if you need to. Yeah, yeah, he'll cheat a bit, you know, especially on fresh snow. You know there's a and they'll get in the dirt too, And there's been a that's a whole another deal controversy, controversy about dry tracks or dirt tracks versus snow tracks. You know, how's that a controversy? Well, as far as all the guys that do it on dry ground are badass, that's the controversy. I mean a snow track up here. I've seen snow tracks that you would look at it and swear to be damned that she could that was the last night track, but it might be a week old, and you know, the scent is dissipated through it. Anyways, it's and sometimes I'm psyching you don't like dry ground guys talking all about how they're badass and you're not. I think there's uh yeah, there's just certain places for certain dogs. And so would your dogs be able to catch a lion down in Arizona with no snow? Yeah, we hunt it south of here in New Mexico quite a bit down the red dirt, the buffs and uh, it's short cedar country and it's mostly dirt. But even down there, you know, the freezing the thaw is what gets you ultimately, Like even with its snow or snow or dirt, like it's it's a scent that's held in the track and that freezing, that thaw just slowly dissipates it. So in the in the dirt conditions, Um, the right kind of dirt I believe will hold scent longer than a snow track. And and there's different types of snow that will hold a scent longer than uh just regular snow. Snow ain't just snow once it's the ground. It could be wet, or it could be fluffy or what's what's the best kind of snow for holding scent? Uh, And just a little bit of more cheering it seems, you know, not it not the real fluffy stuff that dry, dusty powder. Yeah, it kind of kicks back into itself. And you don't want a real wet track, it seems because it leaches. Maybe, And I'm just saying, but yeah, how many lions have you caught in your life? Oh gosh, man, I don't know. I've only been doing it like eighteen seventeen, eighteen years. Telling you my first year is pretty dry. We chased him and that was before callers. You know that, even the telemetry. I didn't have a settle telemetry until two or three years later. But mostly it was set your hounds down, you know, and go. You just listened to him and try and follow him. And that was usually a ship rock. But uh, okay, I wanna get back to fighting, and Joanni, heck, I thought about it, Johnnie. Yanni took offense. I was saying, yeah, I got into his head. No, I mean, explain everything, and you tell me if I explain it wrong. I was saying that, um, I would that I don't understand when people send away their kids to boarding school because I want my kids around so I can snuggle them. And I was like, man, I would hate if they had left earlier than is natural. Yanni took offense at this, not because he thinks that it's great to send your kids off a boarding school and not snuggle them. But because he took offense at the idea that one would describe something as natural when there's plenty of places in the world where you don't move away from home at all and you stay in your tight in your family unit for the whole life. And I thought about it this morning. If I said to you, uh, white tail dear have their breeding season in mid November, it's natural for them to do that, would you be like, uh? Because is they rot in January and Mexico? So does that make it unnatural that they rout in mid November elsewhere? That's what you were trying to do to me this morning. And now that I present to you that way, you're left speechless. You got you had many hours to think about it. Okay, So now that you're coming back at me with a debate, I think you should give me at least more than three seconds before you say I'm speechless about this. Um, Okay, you want me to give you you want me You want to come back to it. No, I think I can. I can give you a rebuttal right now. Um, I think that it's uh, how do I put it? Oh? You're a learned thing. You left home, yeah, and went away far away, Yeah, never to return. It's sad to think about sometimes. Was that unnatural? I don't know perfectly natural. I just felt like it was the wrong use of the word, that's all. What will be the right word? Well, I think you figured it out after we started talking about You said that it was like culturally not the norm. Oh yeah, so I think for the deer, I took offense that you taken offense. I hurt my feelings. Um, can you tell everyone real quick, yann about your Colorado alcunt, real quick hunting story, whatever you need. Then then we're gonna then we're gonna narrow in on Pete Alonzo's big hunt. Yeah. Yeah, it was good. You know I burned um like twelve or thirteen points. Yeah, you need to know which because I have a bet with Brody that it was in the teens. Oh, it was definitely in the teens. I want my bet. Definitely the teens. Even my buddy Ethan, who drew the tag with me, was in the teens as a resident. He was eleven, I think, and I had one or two more than he did. And uh, I had known about the unit for a while and been thinking about it for a while. What was your exposure to it? Just people friends and people I met through the industry, people that lived around it, you know, had good things to say about it. And um, unfortunately I'm setting the stage for sort of like a letdown. He can he can feel it coming because I didn't end up killing the bi little giant that I was, you know that you hope for when you burn twelve or thirteen points on a unit. Um. But we had a great hunt. The best part about the hunt was I had to hang on my buddy Ethan, who was, yeah and definitely like my main mentor over all my elk hunting years. He's like the guy that definitely took me from just like could dude that kind of knew how to walk around in the woods and would bump into stuff every now and then, to someone that could get it done on a regular basis. Um. So that was rat to you know, be able to share an elk camp with him. And we had a photographer with us that captured the the action for us. And then another buddy of ours, uh Jim, that came down from Eagle County and helped us out on the hunt. The hunting was rad like aside from not being never finding a giant bull like anything over three. Um, well, was it just dudes everywhere? No superlimited? Yeah? Um, we definitely there were some camps around, but like you never felt like the elk were even pressured, like every every day you could have just walked in the woods and shot a bull within an hour during prime time. Oh yeah, we had like great bugling action. Um. And I was kind of torn between because they are bugling in his own where you cut in glass, as well as I would like to just to be able to look over a lot of critters. So I was torn between like jumping in and having great fun bugling and chasing the herd around and and trying to look look pick over bulls that way versus trying to just look at a bunch of open country and trying to find a big one. We had very similar weather to what we had this week, meaning that it was like unseasonably warm, dry, no precipitation. Um, so they were definitely not hanging out long, not not being you know, like I felt like the big bulls had left the herds and they weren't being like forced to go out into the open and feed. You know, they were just tucked away in some hole and it was gonna take a little bit of a miracle, you know, to catch one sticking his nose out five minutes before dark, you know. Um, so yeah, sweet sweet hunt and um the last day, how many you think you looked at? How many bulls? I don't know, say average five a day? How many could you take in the poke at mm hmm, I don't know twenty, No kidding? One evening? Yeah, I saw how many bolds we see that night, not counting spikes. I think seven branch chandler bulls like in this one little drainage that we cruised around in. But just all youngsters I had throwing all my Colorado out points into the garbage. Hadn't. Oh, but you never would have caught up with the point creek that's going on in Colorado. You only had like five, and as I burned thirteen, you never would have made it in your whole life if it keeps going like it's been going. Yeah, because next year you'd have six and it would take fourteen to draw. Then you'd have seven and take fifteen. You'd always be behind by quite a few it's a problem that they're trying to deal with. Here's got a lot of problems, man. So anyways, yeah, it all started when they legalized weed, you think, so, um yeah, super fun hunt. Just never found the big one, oh quick thing. But you had fun. But you left everybody like they don't know you got one. Yeah, I got one on the last day with ten minutes left the morning. We were hunting like a small, little teeny tiny drainage where I was hoping that like it was off the beaten path, there was no trail going to it, and I had not seen any boot tracks in it. And We've gotten a hot tip to go and check this out from from from locals, and uh so we went in there, and we were just looking at some pretty small, like south facing steep rocky slopes that you know, don't look like great habitat, but it could be a place where one could be hide and you know, and I didn't see the elk in there, but while we were in there, I could look up and see like some alpine country and I saw two big herds move into this basin and uh too far away to even like even with like the spot and scope to see if there was any Like I could see bulls, but I couldn't see what they were, And so we decided to go in there that afternoon. You think he'll one that morning, So we went and packed his bull out. Was it a giant Nope, he had like he was in the magic circle all morning and had let him all walk by, like kind of died down. And so he was just kind of slowly cruising back to the truck, and all of a sudden, right below him, he just heard a little and he just crept over to the edge and there was one bed at like fifty yards and it was kind of like, yes, this is the perfect opportunity. So he rolled him yep, and it's bed. Where do you get that, Cody? What's that shooting something in his bed? If you're sneaking, have to get up on it. I think it's all all good me too. People get pissed about that. Yeah, I don't know why. I mean, because they're not good at sneaking. They get jealous. Gotta get in there. A monkst him. I shot a bucket in s bed this year. He never flinched. Yeah, it's controversial because people, It's controversial for two reasons. One reason is that people think it's unsportsmanlike, Like it's sportsman like to shoot him when they're running away from you, but not sports like to shoot him when you've stuck up on him. They don't know you're there or something. And because somehow they feel like that you're they're at the disadvantage because they're sleeping, their eyes are closed. And then it's controversial to shoot something that's bad for good reason, in part because it's it's hard to shot. Placement's difficult. Sometimes it's hard to tell what's going on, definitely, So that's the thing you gotta watch out for, is can you tell what's going on? What about shooting a duck on water, Well, that's really great point. Why is it bad to shoot a turkey in the air, Good to shoot it on the ground. Good to shoot a duck in the air, bad to shoot it on the ground. It's confusing. It is if I was duck hunting by myself in the duck landing in the decourse, dude, bank Town. But when you're with people, everybody looks at each other nervously. Oh, if you're with me, you're gonna watch my gun go off. I'm not that good at shooting and flying man. So if I can, you know, get a bonus one towards my limit like that, I'll take it. Um. So in the afternoon we decided, Joe and I decided to go after him, and uh, it was a commitment. It was about three miles. We knew we had to go about three miles and had to climb close to two thousand feet to get to where they were where we had last seen him, and I'd watch him till like so I you that they had they weren't gonna go much farther. And as soon as we got the elevation to where we could see right into this little it was like a I don't wanta say miniature, basically an avalanche shoot, but uh kind of mellow. It didn't look like it slid a lot, you know. It was more like a just a real steep grassy meadow rocky above. And uh we got first got eyes on him, and we were maybe fift hundred plus yards away, and we saw this bowl and all I could see was like a really long main beam and a giant fourth and I thought, man, here it is last day. It's all gonna come together. So I didn't even bust out the spotting scope. I just said, let's go, and we had to. They were sort of feeding on the opposite side of this the The shoot was bowl like and we were kind of on a knob looking into it, and we had to roll all the way around this knob and then get on the face with him. And we tried to go down off the knob and thought we'd get close enough to where we could kind of shoot across into him. But once we got to within range, like sub five U uh, I just couldn't get a shooting lane at all. So we had to climb back out and got on the face with him and just waiting for the wind was good. It was dropping down the face at that point and just started. We got a great elk trail that went right through the timber right at this open avalanche, you know, meadow, and just kept sneaking, sneaking, sneaking, And then it's like, I don't know, when I was probably sixty yards from the edge of the meadow, I could start to see, you know, elk moving in the meadow and got a little closer and uh, I could see the bowl, and that moment I glassed him up and I realized that he wasn't you know what I was after the Nice Bowl. You know, he's he's cool, but not not the big the big giant. Yeah, but the hunt was pretty much over. I had like at that point, I had thirty minutes left in my season, and I'm like, Joe, we could kill this bowl. We're gonna be packing elk me all day tomorrow. And he was just like, this dude's gotten into hunting. It like probably the age of fifty, maybe fifty plus. He's about to turn a sixty and it's so jazz and stoked on it that when I turned around and kind of posed the question to like, should should we kill or should we just happily roll off the mountain under the stars and be done with it, he was just like, get him, take him down, you know, like I don't want this to end. And uh, you know, my buddy Jimmy, he wanted some elk meat, and so it wasn't a done deal, but I still had to I had to sneak in there. By the time I got a little bit closer, I had to fight off, not fight off, but I was fighting all these calves that were feeding right where I was trying to get to. So they put their head down and move a little bit. They lift their head up and they'd be chewing and kind of they'd look at me, stare a little bit, but then look away and put their head down. I'd take another step or two. You can get a little way a lot with calves, you know, they just don't they haven't put two and two together yet. They're only what at that point, they're six months old, right, And uh, Anyways, he ends up me embedded. So I get into like fifty sixty yards. Yeah, the bulls bedded out in the meadow. I'm like maybe now ten fifteen yards from the edge of the meadow, and I'm trying to get a shooting lane. But I got some branches still in front of me, and he's bedded, and he's kind of quartering away, and there's a cow behind him, and it's getting dark. And finally I stand up and I kind of moved to my left and getting next to this tree, and I just leaning against a tree. I still couldn't get the angle I needed, but then I just brought my gun up on this little branch and I kind of had to almost get on my tippy toes and from there, I had a clear sight path. Coincidentally, at the same time, the one calf finally saw me going through all those motions and she's sort of you know, bounced out a little bit and it got everybody on their feet, and once he got on his feet, it was I had a you know, just a nice easy shooting lane. Yeah, you know, I shot him, and hard to tell because everything. It was late in the day and so I didn't get to do a great neck crops knee crops knee cropsy because it was dark out later, you know, so it's hard to tell what happened. But the first shot didn't bring him down, it stunned him. He was dead on his feet. So I ran out after him. He had gone maybe fifty yards and he was just facing away, standing there, kind of wobbling, just ears pinned back, you know, sick but not falling over, and um, I almost actually just ran at him a little bit more or try to change positions so I could get one in broadside, and eventually he just he turned enough broadside that shot again and that tipped him over. So yeah, it was sweet. Yeah, he's a big adventure and the bull like tell him how to go find you on because they'll be able to find a picture of it on Instagram. Yeah, I actually haven't. I need to post a um do a little post about that hunt. But I'll have it up there by the time you guys listen to this. But it's uh my handles your honest underscore to tell us. Um. But he's got a cool main beam that at his force, it almost does a hard ninety both main beams, and they almost come back together. The tips are probably only I don't know, what do you think ten twelve inches apart? Yeah? If that so? Yeah, Uh, quick thing remember we Oh you weren't there and you haven't listened the We had an emergency room doctor talking about all kinds of things that bad things that happened to hunters and anglers. And he suggested that when you bust your tooth off and the nerves hanging out and it hurts real bad, do you put um super glue on there to seal it up so that so the air isn't touching it. My dentist, Kevin said, man, don't do that, creep piece of feedback. Uh, he didn't have an alternative. He said, you're gonna wind up gluing your lip to your tooth, your lips to your lip. He just thought it sounded like not smart. Those things can hurt, they hurt. I would let you administer that, because, especially if it was a top to youth and you're just trying to squirt super blue up in there, you would end up do it very delicately. I'd lay it in there, just perfect to yourself, do you That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't want to do it to myself because you can't see you. I would end up not know. We're eating talking about director for day. So Peterlans will tell everybody where you're from. I'm from Tampa, Florida, still live there today, but you play playing for the New York Mets. UH live in Manhattan and UH for the summer. I live in UH live in New York City, just twenty four years old. Played in high school, YEP, played in college, left college of playing the miners. He was trying to say, he couldn't tell you were trying to You were saying, I don't know if I should say I'm auld dropout or what were you asking? I didn't know if I wanted to tell people that I got my degree from college in baseball, or that I was a college dropout baseball. And I said that what you should say is you left college to play professional baseball. Yeah, I think that that one sounds the best out of all the options. I think that one sounds good. You told me you were a dropout. Yeah, I think it's kind of funny. True. My old man dropped out of high school to go fight in World War Two. I mean that's bad. I don't think it's like, yeah, I don't think it's just I wouldn't say he's a dropout right because it's a it's kind of like a bigger life calling or your journey, your your journey of life that you guess you kind of go on. So you knew you were gonna Like at what point you know you're gonna be a professional ball player, Steve, I had no plan b at all, Like from like, believe it or not. My first word as like a baby was ball. That was my first word. Yeah, you know, I don't want to pop your bowl, but that's a That was my first word. But for me, it's it's kind of fitting um. And I'm only joking with you like that. Yeah, I mean for me, it fits. And I mean when I was younger, um, from preschool all the way throughout high school, like every single level of my life, I've always wanted to be a professional baseball player, and I dedicated all my energy, my time, um to uh to be a big league ball player. That's were your parents were your parents Like, oh, enough already with the baseball. No. I mean I played I played like five sports one year. Um. I mean in middle school, I played lacrosse, football, soccer, basketball, and baseball. I mean I feel like in the sports world, like I grew up playing a bunch of different sports. I mean I tried a lot of them. I love I love sports, I love outdoor activities. UM. But for me, it's like my true passion and love is um is baseball. And I'm just really fortunate that I get to pay. I get paid to play a game. When you started in college, I'm not really fromiling how this goes. You're in college, it's better to be it's And also someone says that you can come be in the minor leagues and that's preferable to play in college. That's like a step closer. Well, it kind of depends, like, um, you can get drafted out of high school, UM at eighteen years old. But the downside of that, if you're not UH, if you're not giving or offered UH, like money, you can't refuse, Like if you're offered a million dollars to turn down the college experience UH to go play professional baseball. I mean, at the end of the day, it's, UM, you want to be in the big leagues. Like you can dream of playing for the college you grew up for, but at the end of the day, you want to end up in the in the show, you end up the big leagues. UM. But for me, it's like I wasn't drafted out of high school. I didn't really have that option to go play professional baseball at eighteen years old. So for me, I kinda I mean, if I if someone says I'm not good enough at something, I I take it personally, and I work harder and I try and shows as much as the results as possible to UM to put myself in that position to get that chance. If if that would make sense. So when I went into college, UM, I just wanted to make the most of my time so I could have a chance at the big leagues. And I didn't care how like if I had to go through the minors or not. And I mean, whatever the path I had to take, I had to take to get there, and I'm willing to put in whatever work and whatever time is needed to uh succeed or to accomplish the goal. You're getting married, uh coming up right? Yeah? Next year? Ye? Or you getting married a year from now. Yes. When you met your girlfriend, you were doing what so. I was in um so, I was in college. UM at the time, I was playing in the Cape Cod League and um we met at Pete Town. It is kind of funny. I mean it's it's not really a place where some people go to meet meet ladies, and it's kind of serendipity, you know. It's like I after we met and it's like I just couldn't get enough of her, and we hung out every single day for the rest of that summer. We did long distance um our last year's of school and UM as soon as um as soon as she graduated. It's Cape Cod. Sorry, put the tenner ups. Cape Cod is not known as a place town. It's a place where guys would go to meet guys. Oh that specific beach, That specific beach yeah, so the reason why could figure out why he was getting cat called. So the reason why we were at that beach. I mean, it's said, long story short, I didn't being from Florida, It's like, I don't. I don't like rocks and wearing shoes on the beach. You know what I mean. I like white, fluffy, sandy beaches and reminiscent of home. Yeah, reminiscent. I mean, who likes wearing shoes on the beach. I don't think any of it's just rocks on the shot. You won't like the beaches at Steve's cabin, dude, Yeah, the barnacles, man, you got rocks with barnacles. You don't have to wear shoes. You have to wear waiters and uh and rubber boots the whole time I got you. You want to have a beach experience? Yeah? And then are you able to concentrate while eating mars you know, cherries out of my glass? Absolutely? Absolutely? But um yeah, it's like she's uh, she's just so unbelievable, Like and did she believe you? Like you're like, oh, I'm gonna be a professional baseball player? Was she like okay? Whatever? I don't think she said like whatever, Um, I think, I mean I think that she would have that didn't matter what I did. I think. I mean she told me, I mean she told her dad that she would have dated me if I pumped gas for a living, So like, I don't think he was necessarily the what I did. Um, I think it's just the chemistry and the relationship. I mean, she's she's awesome. She's my soul mate. I mean, I can't picture going through life without her because I mean she's I mean, she's my rock, like she keeps I mean, she's a sports psychologist, like she's everything and more. I mean, and for how much like we travel and like I mean, we don't really live anywhere for more than seven seven days at a time during during the baseball season, and it's like you go through the apartment, you go to the hotel, like there's no sense of home. And sometimes like I get h I'm not gonna say jealous, but I kind of wish I knew what it was like to have like a like a home for like an extended period of time, because like packing and traveling a lot, it gets gets kind of exhausting, you know, and you're going home with a bunch of deer meat. Now I'm excited and and you don't have any concerns that she's gonna she's gonna eat the deer meat. Oh, she's she's gonna love it. I think I'm a I think I'm I'm a pretty good cook. Um. I learned. I learned a lot of stuff from my grandpa. Um, well, the one from the one from Spain. He can he could, he could whip up anything. And just kind of watching him navigate the kitchen, utilize all the different spices, um and different creative ways like to bring out the best of the food. I think that, Um, I can do that. I can do this. Dear meat Justice either one that taught you the cinnamon trick. No, actually so a buddy of mine. His name is Vince. He's one of my best buddies. Uh. He went out to Houston, UH to visit one of our really good friends. He plays for the Houston Astros. His name is Lansper Colors and Dallas Kikl was his teammate. And Dallas Kikl is like just an absolute hardcore Texan like Breede lives breathe Texas and he used he uses like cinnamon on like red meat, and Vince brought it back and uh, we went over. Um, me and my fiance and him and his wife are really good friends. We went over to dinner for their house one night. He was growing steaks. He was putting cinema. I'm like, dude, what the hell are you doing. He's like, shut up, just try it, Just wait till I'm done, and try it. And I'm like, oh my god, this is unbelievable. And so I I kind of adopted it, and um brought it to you guys. Yeah, we did. We liked so much. We had it twice this week. Uh, tell everybody what high ask means. So in the baseball world, it's my new favorite term. So that's why Pete likes mildeers milder. He got a mild your buck he felt had a high as So a high ask means just a just a big, powerful, muscular butt. And in the baseball in the baseball world, if you have a high ask, that means that you're probably a strong guy, like strong and athletic and you could probably hit a ball for pretty far. Your I mean, you gotta have a lot of asks to hit the ball. Oh damn, right, man, When I hit a ball, it doesn't really go anywhere. Man, It's always kind of embarrassing. Well, you gotta you have to act like I'm not interested, I'm playing. You have to figure for baseball tea, Steve. You gotta put your ass into it. That's the thing. That's why you gotta have a high as not not enough of an ass Yanny what I tell you earlier about oh, chocolate milk and squats, You need to get on that training program, Steve. Yeah, you know what happened one time, man um the last real heavy duty bit of chocolate milk I got, I had a lot of gastrow and testinal upset. This is many years ago, but it turned me off on it. Okay, turn me off on chocolate milk. And now but I look at chocolate milk and I get leary. Well, I mean, there's is it like with the girl I had just started dating, and there I was sneak off every couple minutes trying to figure out what was going on? Were you farting in her in her bathroom towels? It was just horrible, man, It's horrible, as my my the writer Ian Fraser put it once he talked about it, sounded like he was yodeling. He was yodeling in the bathroom. So now that chocolate milk man, you look at it like I look at it with great suspicion. Is it a dairy thing? Well, just a fluke. I was real sick. I got real sick overseas God, and I was just not right for quite a long time. Seth had that. Yeah, Seth was sick for uh at least a year. He couldn't even date. He had the ship so bad he had to take a year off dating was still on this day. Have no clue, was it really? Did you go to coastu Ecer? No, No, they had him. They had him, just no, they had him. They had him peg for like a real serious look affliction Crone's disease. Yeah, but it just went away one day. I woke up and was gone. He woke up, had a nice solid and it was gone. Stressed for a year, couldn't date, couldn't even date? Were you stressed out? I mean before do you think stress was Did he look stressed out? I don't think I was stressed one time of life? What else was going on in your life at the time? Oh, come on, talk me through this he had was in college. This is the worst time ever leave alone, geez. So I asked the powerful ass strong power for lass. Yes, typically when you have a strong power for last, you have strong legs and in like athletic ability and that they'll look for that. Absolutely. So when you started playing baseball? How did it come to? Because I want to trying to get around to is how you won the home run Derby and that's how I found and that's and then you took the opportunity to express interest in going hunting, which is pretty funny. Well, so the home run derby soles telling people what you get when you win the home run Derby. No, no, that's two questions. You're you're asking three questions at once. Which one? So first question, how did I start playing baseball? Oh? No, no, we're told us how you started playing baseball? Okay, so what what was the what was the second question? I just kind of like the all of sting you made it, and you're like you're in the get in the major league, Like here you are, yeah, and you're in the major leagues. And then the home run Derby comes up? Yeah, so I got the uh, I got the official invite I got the call from uh one of the people from the Major League Baseball Office asking if I was gonna do it. It's like, would you like to participate? No, ship, I would like to participate. This is like a like that's like the one night a summer my parents let me stay up late at night to watch like I have, Like I grew up watching the Homer and Derby. Like I never watched the All Star Game. I watched the Homer and Derby. That was like my thing because I was just in awe of like just how far these guys would just punish these baseballs, Like you just just absolutely disintegrate these uh like these baseballs into the night and it's just like it is majestic almost. It's it was really cool and um and to be honestly, I didn't even know what I was saying, Like after the Homer and Derby, I would just like black like it was all like just this blur like I had, Like I remember like my cousin. My cousin was the guy that thrown me BP or batting practice. He was the one throwing me the pitches and after I hit it, I remember just chucking my bad as far as I could in the air, and my cousin just jumped on me. Um. And then after that, I was just Daddy Yankee like put a chain on me. Do you guys know who Daddy Yankee is. He's like some really fame. He's like a famous Latin rapper. Like he put like this, like the Homer and Derby championship chain on me. I got hinted the trophy and then it's like, holy sh it, what do I do now? Sorry, the fact that your cousin was pitching, he seems a little suspicious. Or did you get to choose that? I chose that. Yeah. Oh so everybody gets to choose their picture. Yeah. Yeah, so they're they're throwing you pitch is meant to be hit? Yes, exactly. And um, my cousin grew up playing baseball. He played he played D one college baseball, uh St Bonaventurely, I'm not sure if you guys know where that is upstate New York. Um, but yeah, he we both kind of grew up around the game. And um, it was in Cleveland, and he's, um, he's from the Cleveland area, and I just like, you know what, and both my parents are from Ohio, so this is It was kind of like a whole like homecoming family reunion type thing. And I was just like, what how crazy would this be just to like have this moment with Uh. I mean, there's there's a ton of family members there, and to have my cousin Derek like throw to me. Was just yeah, you couldn't dream You couldn't dream it up better. I mean, and you win a million dollars? Yeah, yeah, Wait, how many homers did you hit in the in the derby? So I hit fourteen, uh to knock off Santana, I hit twenty to knock off a Kunia, and I hit twenty three to knockoff lad Jr. So were any of those guys rookies? Um? Vladi was and Santana is a season vet and a Kunya was a rookie last year signed he was rookie the year last year. So all those guys are very well respected um in the game of baseball. And yeah, came out on top. It was, I mean, and then when I got the got the interview or when the interview thing, it is just like all this everything happened so fast, like my family's coming on the field. Um, Like I I was like holding back tears. Like the entire time, I was just so just like wow, like because coming into spring training, I didn't know if I was going to be playing in the big leagues and then here I am two and a half three months later, like wanting the home on derby. It's like this ship doesn't even make sense to me. It's like I was living a dream, Like it happened so fast. And then the interview came up, and I was just like, I mean, I'm a big fan of meat eater, Like I watched, Yeah, what question did the interviewer ask you? How did how did you? So this is this is how two things happen. So he's like, so you made the big leagues out of spring training, You're you're an All Star as a rookie. Like, you just won the home run derby. You get a million dollars, you get the you get the trophy, you get the chain. And he said you got to meet Jerry Seinfeld, which is weird. Is that something you ask for? No? He Jerry Seinfeld is just a big New York Mets fan, um and he was at one of the games and me and him talk for a while. He's he's a hilarious dude, what did you guys talk about? Um, It's it's kind of funny because like my dad, uh, my dad was a huge Seinfeld fan and it is just and I was like, dude, like my dad, I remember my dad's sitting me down and making me watch shows of you. Like I'm like, it's crazy that He's like, I'm such a huge fan, and I'm like, how how are you a fan of me? Like that dude is like a like a legit ogl in New York. And it's like, like, I don't I couldn't understand that he Jerry Seinfeld liked Jerry Seinfeld was a fan of me. I just like, there's a lot of things that happened this year that I couldn't comprehend. He's like, and then the guy said, or the ESPN guy, He's like, what could possibly make this year better? And I'm like, I go to go hunting with Steve Ronelle. It just it just like came out. I didn't plan it. This wasn't it, but all that other stuff. It's like it was it was so funny. So many people said that to him. Man like this people kept texting me to be like, I mean, I just like when I watched your shows. It's like, I love the way that you kind of put things in in in perspective and you have kind of like a certain way I mean you being a writer and you just have a certain way with words and describing things. Um. It's it puts a lot of things in perspective. And the way that you kind to treat um, not just not just the animals, but the way you prepare um because I love what you do, like especially with the cooking and the preparation of the food. I mean me, I'm a huge food I love awesome food and the way that you do try and do the best justice you possibly can for the animal. Like I have the utmost respect for that. And I mean I kind of wanted to Like this trip was just so special because I could be able to just kind of watch and learn and um be I mean kind of pick your brain a little bit. Um. I mean there's kind of like I mean, after baseball and like I'd love to do kind of something that you're doing. Um. I mean this is like, I mean, baseball is of the utmost priority, but I mean outdoors and and food is is a huge passion of mine and I know it is for you too, and uh, quite honestly, I felt like we get along. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah. So what we did just to bring people up speed is a friend of mine has a ranch in Colorado and he uses the ranch. Um he's been on that, he's been Matt, he's been on the show a couple of times. Um, he used the ranch like he hosts wounded veterans to hunt on his ranch. He takes business clients, friends, uses it for fun. Like I first came out here to do a TRCP fundraiser. Like TRCP, Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership will auction off like last year they auctioned off a deal where four people could come out too, could hunt out and two could fish. And so I hunted with Um. One of the guys Jana's hunting was another guy, and then Cody is a what do you call yourself? You're like a ranch manager? Yeah, hunt man, I don't know that. Yeah. In addition to catching cattle and lines and whatnot, jack of all trades. So we did these this fundraiser hunt and it came out here and Matt has, uh, if your own properties in Colorado, you can get these, you get like these tag vouchers that you're able to use. So we were able to very much like on the spur of the moment, playing a hunt without needing to do the applications to get a permit because we've got the vouchers. So we came out to hunt deer and then you were able to buy it over the counter. ELK tag. Um, what all like when we came out to do is what all were your expectations and and like apprehensions and expectations. I mean I was I felt like whatever it was gonna I mean, I was just happy to be here. I just wanted to tag along and um just kind of just kind of learn and Um, I'm just I just feel really blessed to to to be here. I mean, all you guys, this whole Metator team, this whole Meteator experience was just um, I mean I'm gonna remember this for us from my life. I mean, this was absolutely fantastic. The boys boys are awesome, Like you got a hell of a team, Steve, and like you guys are are fucking awesome thanks to all you guys um did when you were imagining it, Like you played so now you play baseball and everything you do is filmed, right, you're filming the game. It's being put on as a spectator sport um. And like you the way you're there to produce a thing that's watched, you know whatever means that you personally like, that's what justifies the whole thing is it's an audience participation thing. Um. To know that you were gonna come and we're gonna hunt and we're gonna film it for a television show. Did that make it seem more Uh? Does that make it seem more in line with how your life goes anyways? Or did it feel like, Oh, I wish we weren't doing that. I wish we were just going out for fun. No, I mean if because for me, it's like in the world of baseball, it's it's a game of failure, in a game of disappointment. Like if you fail seventy percent of the time throughout your entire career, you're more than likely to end up in the Hall of Fame. Seventy percent of the time you fail, And there's a lot of cases where we need seventy percent of the time. Like you get up to bat and you're out. Yeah, that's what's funny. When I asked you, like, what happened the first time you got out to bat in the major leagues? You said, I struck out? Yeah, I struck out. Did you strike out swinging? Are looking at it? I struck out. I struck out swinging struck out. It was against a three time Cy Young winner. So, um, what's that? So that's like the m v P for for pictures. He's a three time uh m v P for uh for the pitching aspect of the game. So, I mean he's so. The guy's name is Max schers Are. To all you listeners, if you're from baseball world, you knew exactly who he is. But uh, to the guys that or guys and gals out there that aren't familiar with the baseball, this guy is Um, this guy is tough. I mean, this guy's probably uh probably gonna end up being a Cooperstown, which is the Baseball Hall of Fame. And uh, I respect the hell out of him. And um, I mean this guy is just an absolute master of of of the art of pitching. Are you looking forward to facing him again? Oh? Yeah, I love competing. Have you have you gotten a homer off from yet? Not a homer but I got a couple of hits, got a couple of hits, So they put that in your pipe and smoke it. I guess so, Uh, we're really leave off. I can't remember if I got distracted by uh expectations. Oh yeah, was it weird to come out like make a show where we were to be filmed? Are you just so used to be in film though? I mean I this year I get. I mean just in real like going through like real life. It's like I don't realize in being filmed like during uh during the game, because I gotta be locked in on on what I'm doing. I mean, the cameras are are just kind of exterior stuff. Um. I mean for me, it's like if I'm I'm just gonna be myself because at the end of the day, that's um like I take pride in knowing who I am. Like, like I told you, what did I tell you about knowing something? Oh? Yeah, I don't want to say it? Is that? Is that too? Uh? Maybe may be honest it What do you want me to say? I don't want to. Well, maybe you weren't there. I'll tell you that, Okay, if it's not podcast friendly, I won't say it. It's a it's a it's an expression saying you need to know your your panga. Yeah you're penga. Know you're you know what you're working with. You know what you're working with, you, what your strengths are, what your limitations are. No, know who you are. That's that's the that's the g rated know who you are, um and for me, doesn't doesn't pack the punch that right now your panga um? And for me, like, I feel like I'm really comfortable with who I am and if someone else wants to have an opinion, then let him have it, you know. And I mean that's whatever, whatever happens and whatever people think of opinions like great, But uh, are you kind of like the added pressures? It's like for me, it's like I try and live in the moment and whatever I can do to accomplish, whether it be like putting a good shot on a deer or hitting a baseball, it's um, it's honestly pretty similar, pretty similar type of type of pressures. What was your favorite thing about what's your favorite thing about? Hunt Milder? I know you like the moments when we were looking at them. Yeah, I mean I just think they're they're just incredible creatures. Also, it's like I think the mesmerizing thing, like they're really cool to look at, but also that they could disappear at the blink of an eye, Like if you're glass and you see them and then let's say you like let's say you kind of just move around to adjust or whatever, and then you look back in that same spot, they could be gone and to split second. I mean, these creatures are just um, I mean, I have just this utmost respect for him. I mean they're almost perfect. They're almost perfect this trip, and their camouflage really well, they're really just super aware of their environment. And um, I mean there. I mean it's a great challenge. I mean, I mean we hunted really hard these five days. Am I right? I would say we did. We had some obstacles, Yeah, I think that. Um Cody bat me up on this. Like it's like like Colorado does like the first season so it's week long, then there's some days off, and the second seasons a week long and there's days off, and the third season is and I think you get like a sort of like added up. It's a lot of pressure. You're right, You're exactly right. And things get skittish, and it's compounded, you know, throughout the season until later the season. You're right, and we had the chance we'd come out, and we thought, oh, well, come out and they'll be routting and chase each other around playing grab bass. Not even kind of none of that. Uh. And then two nice the weather, which is wonderful to be out and but just isn't like that's what you're really hoping for, I think in Colorado's third rifle season, because that's why most people don't come and hunt it and come in second season instead. It's because they like this weather. They don't want get their teeth by the way. Out of locals at least where when I was living called all the locals all hunted third because they would expect the weather to come in and then put the animals out into the open. We did not have that, or a little migration. We had a little pre migration before you guys showed up, but you know, you were still in a lot of deer. There's still a lot of deer up high. Yeah. It was tough, man, It was tough, but worst case, worst comes to worst. We we didn't shoot anything and got to watch a beautiful sunset or sunrise? What would you have thought about that if you didn't get one, if I didn't get one. Um, I know hunting, there's no guarantee for success. Um, same thing with baseball. You're not gonna get a hit every time. And I feel like even though like our worlds are so different, but the expectation of success isn't like just just had to snap of a finger like that can't be guaranteed. Like, you gotta work, You gotta work for your success. You gotta put yourself, you gotta prepare, you gotta put yourself in the right position to have that great opportunity. Like am I is that? Just like keep keep putting yourself in positions. That's the thing now, And then I'll think about is um at a point just this matter of like staying out, being out, you know, you keep being out Like tonight we sat that same we set, the same metal night that we sat five nights in a row. It's still no buck showed up out there. But I'm thinking, like, how many nights could you actually sit here and not have just like not have one just like a lost one comes through. Yeah, we saw we saw those tonight that we had never seen the whole time we sat there, and then night before tonight last night we saw, didn't you see a couple of days last night one one. It's not like they weren't dear there. It's just that opportunity that, like you, we put ourselves in position. It's just that nature just didn't. That wasn't in the cards. But you know, it's funny as we went up because when I was down here doing the TRCP fundraiser during second season, Brody comes on the show, a lot was down and he went up and scouted that area in all kinds of bucks, and then Matt Cook looked at it, all kinds of bucks. We go up there the first night, we go there and here's four bucks. And I kind of thought him as I thought him was like money in the bank. I wasn't even kind of thinking about going. I wasn't like, is that why we didn't go after Sapphire that first night? Well it wasn't that. It was that, you know, if it had come in range, absolutely, but I was like, no sense in spooking it, no sense in doing a hasty stock. We'll set up better tomorrow and get them and not spook them not knowing that we would never lay eyes on that thing. Again, very true, but that's the that's the thing though, I mean, same same thing with baseball. You could get an absolute meatball right down the middle and not see and expect to see it later on and that at that or expected to see later on the game. But if the picture doesn't give it to you, it's I mean, then you're sl And I mean it's kind of the same thing for us. It's like we thought we were gonna see at least one for the for the remainder of the trip. But I mean it's not like we didn't work hard for it, you know, No, five days, haunted every morning, early every night till the end, um and then had that one not quite opportunity and then scratch it out and got opportunity. Yeah, how did you feel that happen? Like, how did you feel? Like all of a sudden, like we're me going like, oh my god, get up, get up, get up, got hup? What's wrong? Well, you didn't care, that's the problem. Yeah, that's the problem. Um, what's the problem. Yeah, so you didn't crumple under then you weren't even influenced by my pressure. No, he had that good saying earlier. Was it the Navy, he said, of the Marines that have that saying, yeah, it's in the um in the military. It's like slow slow as smooth and smooth it's fast. And that's that's kind of my um my method to hitting and my approach to to the game of baseball, whether it be offensively or defensively, because you have to be under under control of the situation in order to capitalize. And I I mean, thank you Seth for spotting it first of all, um, and I'll spot bucks for you any day, Pete. And then uh, Steve is like helping me direct kind of where to where to aim on the scope and and where to to Um was it the magnification and stuff like that. I Mean, this wasn't just like yes, I shot it, but this was like like a team effort. There was a lot of different people involved in in the in in that success. Um. Yeah, we got up there, we had a little bit. It was like we got up that morning, we got befour. Yeah, we got up a little early, and I had a pop tart. You had a pop tart And I keep blaming my pop tart, but I had a pop tart for breakfast in a coffee Did you put too much or did you putting on enough cream in your coffee? So you had too much caffeine and too much man, Like, I'm pretty I'm not like a fragile person. You were that more. I know. We had a little hike. We had got a four, had a pop tart, had a little hike and we got into where we wanted to be and I was shaking so bad I couldn't hold my binoculars up. So I had to take a time out and lay on the ground and told Seth was there to film. I was like, you gotta come up in glass, man, I can't even and I laid down. I offered you the chair and on my back laid down. Rick got me a little water, It got me a little energy bar. Eventually got back to my feet, and uh, you could tell I was still incapacitated because I was like, uh yeah, I thought I was gonna put I was still incapacitated because I was up full on, feeling like I was glass and sets back Meth was camera and I'll say it's like buck buck yeah, um like blow us yeah. I like when I'm looking you're just like looking in the in that little patch right there, I'm like where And I didn't realize that it was like that far down. It was perfect spot. Yeah, Like I thought it was maybe a little bit further out, but it was legitimate. Why isn't it when we arranged it? Yeah? H yeah, hunting firty horizontal. I mean it was right there. Um jumped on him, hunting for the r jump. Maybe if I had one of those like flying squirrel suits or whatever to fly down the hillside. And man, he was. That's why I like mule to your man is like, you know, no hang out in people's yards like anything, right, but now and then when you see a meal or just like lurking through the you know what I mean, timber buck, they just got like a like a lurky kind of almost a haunted kind of thing they do now and then man, it's almost kind of like a like a swagger. It's like, uh, it's like they like they're strutting their stuff, but then they know they can disappear at any second. And him coming down that trail aspens on either side all that brush and that little fern trail he's coming down. That was perfect window because like I was gonna kick you in the side of the head if you didn't shoot. I was like as I was, I was, I was planning on shooting, but I wanted to be precise. I didn't I didn't want to harm the animal in any way. I wanted to make it as clean as cleaning, humane as possible. And you know, I was thinking about giving you kind of an elaborate description of where I wanted you to hit it, but like like aim for the but that was just like French older, funch older, and Pete shot the heart out of it. Yeah, I told myself I was gonna I'm aiming for the heart. I'm not hitting anything else but the heart. Um. I mean to me, I think that's probably the quickest and concise way to do it. And I wouldn't accept anything else. I had a nice slow, uh slow, controlled trigger press and when I let the I let the gun do its thing. I didn't try and stop it from rick coil And I think the scope may hit me in the mouth, um something. But you looked like a vampire a little bit. That's fine. Um. I know when I because I know when I'm when I relaxed my body, it's like my body was almost limp uh and I let the gun do its thing. That's when I knew I I stuck it really well. That's that's when I knew why. I put put the shot right where I wanted it yep, and it took a couple of bounds and bam, piled up. I don't even think it went yards and then do nothing. I was pretty happy. Yeah, I felt like real happy, was real happy. I felt like a little bit as I felt like, I love I love filming it. His face light up like that makes me happy. I felt like a little bit for crying. But I was just so overcome with joy because I've I've wanted to go hunting for so long. I just never had the opportunity because as soon as I entered the world of professional baseball, uh to kind of that work and that time being put in, like the hunting stuff got put on a back burner. In um having time this offseason and be able to capitalize on that, I mean, this is just a pure blessing, Like you haven't still no idea how appreciative I am of of all you guys, So thank you for having me and um no, this is I'm gonna remember this for us of my life. This is this is sick. We'll get out again. Hell yeah. Uh. When we're doing a show, um, there's people who watch our show will know. We usually if we're lucky in getting something, we kind of highlight a food preparation in the end. And for this one, we're working on what why why are you laughing, Seth? Because I just you know where going? So we wanted to do where we wanted to take. Uh uh. Pete likes a good hamburger. I love good burgers. I love a good burger. And we wanted to do a bone out of shoulder and and and do some grind. So like talking about making good grind burger. To do that, you need to cut it with pork fat or beef tabo, um, beef suet and sorry not Yeah, so like beefs why do they call it beef suet? But you don't know us as pork suit, do they? I don't think so. Yeah, so you caught it with be fatter pork fat. And it just so happens that Cody has had see how I bring this full circle? Yeah, Cody's had a pig that you bought four butchering purposes seven dollars. Yes, it was a discounted hog. Yeah, fourth like a four hundred pound pig for twenty seven dollars. He was five d plus when we first picked him up for a closure pig, right, big old fella. Why did the guy want to sell pick for twenty seven bucks? Why he just slaughter it? I don't know what the situation was. He come out of a sale barn. I had an order buy or buy him for me. So you got a pig and you fed it on expired produced stand produced through the summer, an expired horse feed throughout the fall. Yeah, and uh. When I was out here before to pick, scared the ship out of me. Because I was walking along. No one told me about the pig, and I walked along and I thought, I keep telling everybody this, but it's funny. I thought it was a dead black angus and I was like, oh, what the hell that thing died from? And I went up and got pretty close to it before the pig finally woke up and turned a little. Yeah, scared the ship out of me. And you're like, oh, yeah, I was gonna tell you. I failed to mention that. But we uh this morning because you've been meaning up because you don't want to feed it through the winter to lose weight. You're I ambodying for the intentions of but your n Yeah, and it just so happened. So the Meat Eat Your crew is here and yeah, and Cody wants us to start a domestic show around domestics. So we had the the deer and then this morning we helped slaughter the pig um and cut some of the back fat off it. And I was a little worried about the fat. I don't know why, because I just doesn't know what that thing has been getting into, right, you know, I can situation, but yeah, it's super clear. We've been dealing with pigs and blanche lately too and having this this question arise, you know often about what pigs have been getting into and we're gonna eat him. Yeah because me and Yeah, we just bought a pig ourselves, but it was dead. We bought a butcher pig from a guy that a friend of ours. The guy we worked with, Kevin Harlander, who's been on the show. Um, he raised some pigs and we bought a pig from him. He was feeding the pigs. I don't know if it was solely but barley mash right, what's left? Hm? And so we got that pig now. But then we went to your pig and took some of the back fat off, and then got back here, and I don't and I was nervous about the fat wouldn't be good because I know the pigs like old. Yeah, he was older, losing weight, still had one of his nuts kind of kind of. So we took a thin slice of that back fat. The back fat comes off like what half inch thick county, that's say an inch probably an inch. Those pieces we had were not an inch thick. We'll let you cook him down. Oh, just let's go three quarters, let's meet halfway. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna meet halfway to wrongness. They're not an inch thick. That's an inch. Five eights comes off and five and we caught them into like we could all the back fat and like these sort of like six by six or seven by seven squares of five h inch thick back fat and put in the freezer so it'll start to set up nice, real clean white fat. Boned out the deer leg and cube that in one inch cubes. Put the squares of fat from the from beans the pig that was his name in the freezer until it got firm, slice it and thin slice, and then put a thin slice in a pan to test it for goodness before we ground up all the deer meat. And would you think of that pig fat? I think that was the best little pork crackling I've ever had. That was tasty as hell, especially when you put a little salt on it. That was really good pork fat plus plus. And then we ground up. We were gonna do temper same we did, like a healthy grind. I think we didn't do all of it. I think how much do we do? We did like whole like maybe like two like slabs of it. I'd have to guess we did about twenty. So we did one whole meal to your shoulder and then cut in. I would say, of that weight and of beans as fat, like a healthy twenty. Yeah. Let me ask you this, Pete. Just give me yes or no answer. The beans go down easy. He died a hero. That's all I'm gonna say. Um, wonderful fat. Then ground off. You know how beans guy's names named Beans? Well, everybody called I named him, but everybody calls her pig bacon. You know, let's go eat some baker or whatever. Hamm, yeah, your nickname him hambone or that's a bacon or chop or pork and beans. I didn't know that was the thing. Yeah. And and Charlotte, oh yeah, we saw a black widow. Charlotte was a spider right, yeah, yeah, black widow in my tent that you guys let live. No, we found a black widow in your camp. Black widow in your camp. Rick argued to leave it there to kill you not very long. You made a quick case of like you're gonna leave that around to fight somebody, and I was like a displaced black widow and cordies camp. Um uh yeah. So we ground it up and man, really good. The burgers made burgers. I mean, that's probably the upper echelon of burgers. If if I said some myself, those those are awesome burgers. And what do you feel you're gonna bring your whole deer home? Yes? Do you feel that you'll eat it like really fast and be done with it. I remember when I went when when we took Joe Rogan uh deer hunt for the first time, he brought his deer home, and man, it feels it's like two or three weeks later he was that a dear me, his deer was gone. He's went home and ate it. Man, do you think you'll milk it out? Or you think you'll just eat it? I don't know. I got I got some really good uh. I got some really close friends that I'm sure would appreciate some of it. Um, I got some family members. I know I'm probably gonna have some backstrap for Thanksgiving. So I don't know. I mean I think that I mean, if we have it, I'd probably rather eat that than go to the grocery store, because, hey, I know where it came from. It's probably it's got packed with way more vitamins and nutrients and uh like a regular regular cow you get from the grocery store super food. Man. Yeah, absolutely, So I think that i'd probably rather cook a steak from the backstrap or um do like an awesome buco than from the deer meat, rather than go to the grocery store. I don't know. If I'm gonna buy red meat and until the deer's gone to that's that's advisable. That's what I would do. Um do you uh you have our our Wild Game cookbook. I do. Yes. Uh. You know what I think you ought to make what for Thanksgiving? Yeah, is make the make the all the flower puree in the backstrap dish. Hell yeah, it's a recipe from our buddy Pooter. Yeah, I mean very very Thanksgiving me perfect because I don't think that I've taught this for I don't think that Um on Thanksgiving. Uh. If you want to have a traditional Thanksgiving, eat dear meat. Absolutely, they know those sons a Bitch and pilgrims eight dear meat. It's it's debated whether or not they ate turkeys. So if you want a real Thanksgiving, have yourself to do. I don't think they had cauliflower puree. They wish they did. Yeah, but I also don't think they had apple pie. They wish they didn't as well. Yes, so I think you should make that because it's a very It's like you're gonna have your you're gonna have your wife's family over girlfriends. We split, We split holiday, so we'll be up in Um where her family is in Boston for for think for for Christmas, will be and Tampa for Thanksgiving. So you'll be cooking it for your family. Yeah, man, do the back strap with the cauliflower pure. Yeah, absolutely, very very thanksgiving me. And also, um, and we're gonna send you home with a sack of beans is fat. You're gonna make cracklins for everybody. I'm gonna make cracklands. Um. Probably if you send me home with the thing of a cracklins, I'm probably gonna make that as soon as I land. For for my fiancee, I'm just gonna tell her just just just hold on, just taste it and just tell me after you eat it, and then she's she's. I mean, I was kind of skeptical at first. I mean, I'll I'll try anything. I love cracklands, but that was like the best crackling I've ever had. What you can do too is render all that fat out, cupe it up, rendered out, and then you have a little bucket of special lard. Hell yeah, cook your eggs in, cook your eggs in, make some biscuits, whatever kind of stuff you can do. Make pie crossed mince me ice, that bear lard from black pear, and I made a really nice pie cross for mince meat pie with that With that bear lard. I mean there's a ton of stuff that you could you just it's all about being creative. That's why I like, I mean that cookbook is is helpful in a lot of ways because there's a lot of really creative ways to to dress up whild game as as opposed to just doing the old, old timey, old fashioned recipes. And that's a way to kind of I'm not saying, like kind of put like an elegant twist on something, uh something from the field. And that's why I wanted to get the book, you know, Um yeah I had. It was a fun It was a really fun time to have you out, uh to go thank you because we don't really know each Yeah, I didn't know not really didn't know you at all, but like I just kind of like watch how you sort of handle yourself, and I thought you were an intriguing person, and um, thank you. Rather than like and you last through the whole week, I only what I liked you more every day. Thank you. Yeah, I think everybody did. Man, it was really fun to have you. Thank you. Um, I mean I just try and be as as positive as I possibly can be and regardless of every situation, and um, I guess that's kind of like my motto. I mean, I don't want to be any any negative because I think that's I mean, it's I don't think negativity is ever helpful, if that makes sense. You know, it's funny you told me at one point, not bragging, but you told me we're having a conversation about complaining. You tell me a matter of factly, like I don't complain, but not like you're bragging about You're just like stating a point. You just don't complain, just like make that part of your life. Yeah, I don't. I don't like to because this is a great this is a great way to go through outstanding, but hard to pull off, man, because like it's like, let's I mean, there's a couple of mornings or its fucking cold. Yeah, Like if I would saying, oh man, it's fucking yeah, No, ship is cold like that stayed in the obvious, Like that's not gonna make it any warmer, you know what I mean? So you just you just grind through it. And I mean when I got sick and laid down, did you think less of me? No? Absolutely not I did. I was like Steve, I was getting soft, awful, are fearless? He's weak? No, ship happen. Ship happens to everybody. I mean pop tart. Think about when was the last time you had a pop tart? Yeah, we've been hitting. We got a hold. I don't know how we wanted up. I didn't know you. I didn't know you're hitting the pop tarts heavy. I was eating pop tarts, saying cream and wheat, and that's the only day. Somehow, getting up at four thirty, I wake up hungry. Somehow getting up at four I wasn't hungry yet. I needed one more half hour to get hungry. But also, didn't you say you didn't sleep that well that night? Sleeps everything. I had too much to drink the night before, too much alcohol because we had the Toasted thing the night before, right, Yeah, so I had too much fun doing that. I loved it. That was awesome, Hopefully I surprised a couple of people. Oh, we're gonna edit it down, so you just have all wrong answers. No, we won't do that to you. Okay, we'll do a fair representation. Yeah, we we filled an episode of our thing, get Toasted with Pete, So if you stay tuned on on on YouTube, you'll find get Toasted. Um yeah, and you got to try the fancy whiskey that I haven't I haven't even gotten try yet. What do you think was it good? I thought it was outstanding, dude. It's because you said right now, Johnny, didn't you say? It's like the secret was the Kentucky What is it? The Kentucky whiskey, Kentucky bourbon? You bring it up to Montana and it's the mon Tannah snow melt water. That's right. That's that's hell of a touch like job all done on the on the mediat or special edition whiskey. That ship's also it's high quality. Man, it's good, top notch. I'm drinking right well, I'm I drank it already now I'm just I make a special drink right, put bourbon in there on ice, and I put a bunch of cherries in there. So in Manhattan, I don't know. Yeah, as what they call that, it's good. It is good. We have a recipe on the website. You should check it out. We're going home with a bottle of it. Um. It's called a meat hatton. That our buddy that works for us more. He's on Chucker's right now. You know what the Chucker is what's the chucker? I'm asking do you know what the chucker is? I'm asking you. I don't know what a chucker? What's chucker? It's a bird from eur Asia called a red legged partridge and they're they're like cliff faces. They're like the rockiest, driest na asty is. It's like they eat rocks, um and they they they've been introduced around, but they do well in places like you know, Snake River Canyon, um, where like Nevada has good some chucker spots just like rugged sheep plate, sheep country, Utah. Okay, that's okay, sheep country, that's right. Um. He likes to hunt chalkers. Cool. But yeah, look up that recipe. Check it out. The meat hatton? What is what? How did he like infused bacon into it? Is that how he made the meat hatton? M hmm Yeah. Put some beans beans cracklings in there. Now you're talking there, it's good man, Cody. What's the status on the on the beans bacon, the beans bacon. He's hanging. He's hanging right now. Yeah, he's he's in chill mode for a bit. Uh. What else do we want? We had a couple things we want to touch on now and before we wrapped up. Yep for sure. Oh me and Yanni are running for president. We're doing a writing campaign. I'm voting for you guys, Are you really Yep, we're doing writing. It's Runella tells all the you know, normal people when they run for president, they take all the money that they get and they use it to keep running for president. The money we get UM, all the money we get through our bumper stickers and yard signs and T shirts, we're using to start, uh filling up our piggy bank for access projects absolutely hell yeah, for hunting effiicient access. And then we're gonna take our big piggy bank and we're gonna continue to notify people. But how this is gonna work. We've got some other plans and the works on access projects to help help increase hunting efficient access and so we need to but it's gonna take dollars. So this is the step, and this is one of the first steps, and getting our dollars together is running for president UM. Our buddy Ronnie Bam has been the show. He's gonna run the a t F for us UM because he likes the alcohol and tobacco l and firearms and uh, Ryan Callahan is gonna be our Interior secretary. Perfect. A lot of people wait to announce all the appointments until that after they win. But we're still positive to win that we're just announcing all of our appointments now, and that's awesome. I mean, I really appreciate you guys doing that because um running for president or not not just running for president. I mean that's that's a given, but sacrifice, right, But also it's the kind of the thought of kind of making hunting, of hunting and fishing available to the general public. Um. Yeah, that's our you know, our campaign slogan, Yeah, better hunting and fishing for America because um, in in in the state of Florida, a lot of fisheries available, that's that's not the issue. But the hunting stuff that's really the issue. It's there's not there's pretty much barely any ablic land available to to go hunt. I mean, we hear a lot of complaints from from Floridian hunters. Yea who they have like they live in the fishing paradise. Yeah, I mean I love to fish. Like the complaining about hunting to us a lot. Yeah, I mean I'm a I'm a flat fishing enthusiast. I love trout, redfish, snook. Um. I mean it's it's it's an awesome, awesome type of fishing and big fan, big fan of it, big fan of Florida fishing. Like it's just so diverse. I think that's I think it's some of the best fishing in the entire world. Um. But on the on the flip side of that coin, having readily accessible hunting opportunities just isn't for the isn't for the normal person. Um. And I mean there's just not enough like public land hunt and the public land that is available to hunt, it's crowded as hell. It's crowded as hell. It's almost to the point where it can be unsafe, especially especially during gun season. So, um, the fact that you guys are doing that, um, especially if you're that's gonna that's gonna impact my home state directly. If you guys invest in properties there uh to make available to the public. So I think that'd be outstanding. Well, we'll keep at it. To find out, you have to follow the campaign, go to the to just go to the meat or dot com or oh you know what, I wanted to mention the Bucky guy was a pretty nice damn buck for a first buck. Yeah, real nice buck. I put a picture up on Instagram now and people are like, we're talking about a buck A guy shot that got impaled on a stick. And I was gonna put it on Instagram too a long time ago, and people are like, do it's not on there. I just got to think it felt a little gratuitous to put it on there. But the picture of your box already there, so people can go there and see it. They'll find our campaign announcement video. They'll find Ronnie Bam announcing that he's gonna run the a t F for us. All there. Uh uh what other? What else are we're gonna talk about real quick? Oh no. We was plugged the UM the Back forty giveaway, So we bought a modest farm in Michigan, UM sixty four acres we called the back Ford. Because it's always important to undersell things, not oversell, we bought a place called the Back forty. It's sixty four acres in Michigan, and we're doing a bunch of habitat work on it. Mark Kenyan is running the project for us. We're doing a bunch of habitat work on this property. Eventually we're gonna give the property away, but in the meantime, we're going to give away a hunt where people could come out and and go out and hunt with me and Mark. And me and Mark will be more like your like errand boys, because the winner will get the cherry spot and we'll just be there to facilitate and cook wild game at night and hang out. So we're doing this give way hunt. Um and you find that two at the mediator dot com a lot of announcements. Yeah, you just sign up for the newsletter. Yes, that's a good way to get yourself entered for that in the New white our New White Tail weekly newsletter. Quick question about that? What type of person are you looking for to win? It's randomized, completely randomized. It's not like an essay contest, got you. It's randomized got you. Some of the lies have a good time, you know, into hunting. Well, I don't know, maybe they hate hunting. They have one. Yeah, I can't imagine someone entering the contest if they don't like hunting. It would seem weird. It would seem weird that one would do that. I'm expecting it to be a hunting enthusiast. Can you but just picture of this like someone not wanting, not just winning the contest, just out of spite to say it, dear, just just sitting there in the tree stand with the arms crossing their and their mean eyebrows, with me going, what's the problem they did that with the grizzly bear. Oh yeah, I would love to know how many people actually protesting. A few I heard, Yeah, like they actually like got noticed that they were gonna be drawn for a tag. Well, one guy for sure. Oh yeah, you know you're right, You're right, you're right. The wildlife photographer, so Magnelson, Yeah, some guy that hangs out in the park too much. UM one of those things we're gonna I'm gonna release it when we uh, when we win the presidency. Even before then, we're gonna release a detailed platform like all the things ways that which is gonna better hunting and fishing for America. Rick's gonna hate this one, but one of them is gonna be that a National Parks wildlife management is handed over to the state in the state um will in the same spirit regulatory structure in which the surrounding lands are managed for hunting. The national parks will be managed for hunting, and during hunting season, only those license hunters will be allowed in the park. It's gonna be wonderful, very controversial, very controversial position, but it's cut down on revenue for the part unless I'm like Elizabeth Warren Man, I got a plan for that. I'll tell everybody about it later. So, um, so would you put with the person that applying for those tags? Would they have to pay more to hunt in the park. I don't know. Think about doing something called the Yellowstone supertag and it'd be like a handful of people will draw a Yellowstone supertag and the super tag is good for you. It's good for one of everything, and you can you can transfer him to your bodies. So if you do the yellosone super tag, it's like bison, elk, sheep, black bear backlog of maintenance if you could help close that budget gap. No, hell, this is all gonna make sense. It's gonna be a wonderful country. Um, it's gonna be one. It's gonna be the saying's gonna be so much better. Pebble Mine is done dead. Michigan is getting a dove season. We're gonna be hunting the national parks. It's gonna be a win for hunters and hunt on Sundays. Hunt. Pennsylvanians will be hunting on Sundays. That's a rule in Pennsylvania. There's they're fighting. The first thing that's gonna happen. The first thing we're gonna sign in the law, you know, Yanni, is we're gonna sign in the law making it illegal, um illegal to prohibit Sunday hunting. And it's if you discard a wild turkey's thighs. It's a capital, a federal capital. It's a death penalty offense to a scarred a wild turkey sighs. We're gonna be a fishing too. We're not gonna even have to run for a second term. We're gonna get it all done in four done. Yeah, be back to enjoying the fronts of our labor. So you're telling me people get rid of the five meat, not after four years of being having them whittled away. It just bogged. Oh yeah, No, they'll tay the time in a way. But we're gonna have black, black booted thugs that kick your door down the hall. Y off. If you throw out your thigh meat and um yeah, and war, we're gonna give it like full wilderness protection. I like it. You're coming across all the boundaries. It's the country is gonna be ready for the craziest moderate ever, the most extreme moderates. So get your get your if you stand in the most liberal conservatives, if you stand for hunting fish and get your bump stickers. Now, Um, this was probably I was the worst deer hunter I've ever been this week. You didn't scout up a single thing. I found some deer. Matt and I took a little trip down south where the deer were possibly migrating to. We found some deer. Um did he say they were elk? No, he didn't know. He thought he saw some milk. We didn't see any elk, but we saw something. We found some deer. Uh. And we could have possibly gone and hunted there and it could have panned out for us, you know, if we needed to. But uh yeah, um, it was rough, rough hunting for me this week. Then you went back in the morning that place had gotten Colorado. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I thought I knew, but I knew in the back of my head. I'm like, there ain't no way that this little sneaky spot, you know. Yeah, And so I went there in the morning. I was the sixth chuck to pull. Uh yeah. So no, I don't I don't have anything great to give you. As a final father than I was just a sad and mean I'm like, I'm like itching, I need to go home, and I'm trying to right now playing my week out to figure out when's the first day I can play hooky and go hunting and try to get my mojo back. Over the weekend. We're gonna um uh me and my kids. I don't want to say me my kids are taking Tracy deer hunting. Oh that's cool, but I'm taking Tracy deer hunting and my kids are coming along to confuse the matter. Wow, just you, you're gonna be the only other adult and Tracy and three kids and my wife's out of town. That's gonna be a lot on your place. Seth. You should go and be helped. No, you help Tracy out and I'll yell at my kids. Yeah. Um. Any final thoughts. I think my thought is the deer and elk seasons are going to get progressively better throughout the years, if the structure has changed. They're talking about changing the season structures in Colorado. A lot of pressure, like we talked earlier on me to make it that everything isn't over the counter, right, that's gonna it has to happen, it does. It has to happen. That's my thought. It's not it's not sustainable. Mhm. It's gonna be unpopular, but its just and after seeing what you guys want through this, you know this hunt because it was kind of tough with the pressure and the outside pressure and whatever from even if you don't yeah, even there's just the cut off there, there's gonna have to be. Something's gotta something, something's gonna give, something's gonna give. They don't want to destroy the reputation that they've built. Uh rick Uh. What I enjoyed the fact that you guys have such an amazing like ability to navigate the vernacular of like hunting. Like when you're talking hunting with it doesn't matter if it's like sports like fisherman from Florida or like duck hunting or all these different forms of hunting and fishing, you're like, no, the lingo and you never know what we're talking about, and I sort of him yeah, like I'm like barely hanging on or all. Or I'll try to ask a question, I'll like, like the thought behind the question is right, but I like, don't use any of the right words or whatnot. So I got to witness you do that with sports, with baseball, and it was just fantastic to ask questions that were good questions but using not know how to ask, yeah, not not even know the words to ask the question. And I just I just I just kind of enjoyed watching that. Who knew that there were two leagues in Major League Baseball, right, like and L and A let that National League and and they got different rules. Yeah, yeah, so all that stuff Like I I mean, you know, I play Little league and learned about all that stuff and watch baseball. I like it. Man, I'm like, not only this listen, I'm like a big time Mets fan now, man, yeah, I mean you should be. I'm gonna have my face painted and ship now and I'm at yeah, to be able to pick the brain of somebody that's in the in the big league, big leagues and watching YouTube videos and hitting homers, I mean it is it is like unreal. So yeah, it was. It was cool being able to he looks so much older and different when you're up there hitting them homers because I know what I'm doing. Oh and yeah, and the other thing is is Steve's ability to kind of in those moments of high pressure. You know, he's mentoring. You know, I've I've watched him interact with many many a hunter mentoring. You know, Buck shows up and he gets home using that word. Yeah, it is a it's a mental relationship, and you're really good at it. But in that moment of like I've heard that I'm not well, I feel differently. But in that moment, in that moment of like it's go time, your level of patience, uh, like you're projecting your own like I'm doing this now, and it just you know, it takes somebody that's not used to doing it as much a little time to get comfortable or whatever. But Pete stayed true to his own Yeah and yeah, my process, and so I would always call him, uh resistant to my mentoring and that he was resistant to the frenetic nature of your mentoring uh strategy there, but he stayed calm and like, I mean, that moment is intense, right, like there's like two to three second window that you gotta make the shot. And uh and with somebody like barking in your ear, like go go, go, go go. It is not a whisper. Yeah, it wasn't a whisper. And he got it done. It was, it was. It was a pretty fantastic moments. So seth. Yeah, man, I'm gonna start watching more baseball too. Let's watch it together. Man, we'll go AT's house there, but we'll get you, we'll get your little computer out. You know what the beautiful thing is is that you guys are two hours behind us, so at five so seven h five Eastern time is when the game starts at five oh five. When business hours are done. You guys can chill, relax, hanging out the office for the extra hour or so. Then I gotta go home make dinner, or you could watch it while making dinner. It's a relaxing game to watch. Yeah, fantastic swinging in the miss. There's a lot of that, by the way, a lot of failure. All right, man, do you got any thing you wanna final thing you want to add? Yeah, um, just kind of not just learning from you, Steve, but just kind of learning from everybody. Um, I mean everyone has just I mean, Cody, I've never knew dogs were used to hunt mountain lines. That's just a whole different world. The hunting that was, that's just nuts. Did you know they were used the round up stray cattle. I learned that just right now. And that your dogs are just multitalented and uh, I mean to be able to manage that and I mean that's that sounds like an absolute rodeo. It's a cool feeling for sure. Yeah, that's that's nuts. Um, I mean hell, I mean what you do like on that ranch. I mean I just kind of saw like this small little sample size of it. But damn man, you're a fucking jack of all trades and that's that's awesome to see, like a true outdoorsman. True uh, just true cowboy like it's in southern Colorado. That's that's it, man. I mean I feel like you're part of a dying breed. I mean, honest, just you Like, I'm not a cowboy, you're not a cowboy, but you're an X fishing guide Like you're there when I don't think we mentioned that, um that we went fly fishing for an hour and a half, an hour and a half, Um, I mean it was that was awesome. I mean, I mean, Seth, you're there taking pictures and you spot in the buck and UM, I mean I think you're the the closest one to to my age, right, Matt, how old are you? You? So you're younger, so I guess me and you are kind of the the young I mean, I'm the youngest one, but I feel like me and you kind of connect on kind of like a similar wavelength from a similar lens. And um, I mean I mean, Rick, I mean, I have a hell of a hell of respect from what you do because you have to get the right angles. And um, being a part of the baseball world, I know, kind of like all the camp I don't know it, but I'm familiar with having to get the different takes a different angles, changing the lens, the light. Um. And I can't imagine how difficult that is, Like moving around quietly, not being able to make a sound sort of quietly. That's extremely quiet, while Steve's yelling at you the whole time. That's that's that's that's why one of the best parts was watching Steve over last. It's more of a stair than it's yells of love. Lastly, Steve, I felt like, um, I don't know, it's like the way that you kind of, I mean rec put it in a really good in a really good way, like you were mentoring me because I haven't hunted since, um since my grandpa pass when I was in I haven't and then after that, like I was in college and baseball kind of took over. And I've always had this affinity for um, like outdoor activities and all right, and being able to come out here and do this, and and you being like one of the main mentors. I feel like all of you guys were mentors in a way, but Steve, like the way that you and the cool thing is is like even though it's like the first day, like you weren't afraid to say shit, like you just like Pete, stop stomping around, quit dragging your feet, Like I felt like you're the older brother, like I never had like that with me into shape, but did it in a way where it's like you cared what I did, like, um, like letting me take that first shot on the deer, like trying to work your ass off, putting me in that position to Um to have a successful hunt. Like that's like, I'm so appreciative of that. I'm appreciative of all you guys. Matt, like this is your first shoot, like you're a rookie on this thing. I know he's not on the pod, but like, I mean this whole crew and then Um and then Matt Um the owner. I mean, hell, this is a this is a team effort in um, all you guys kind of teaching me different different little things of the big world about oars and outdoor activities. I mean, I'm just so appreciative just to just to be a part of this. So I can't thank you having me for just all this. This is I'm going to remember this for the rest of my life. This is this is fucking electric. So thank you, thank you. I can't thank you enough. Thank you many. Thank Pelso. The power Platform, the Power Platform. So that's ps. To the to the final note, Steve mentioned that the that we're on in the episode, it's going to be aired as just the Platform, but just a platform called the platform, the platform called but Cody's just like, we don't got a name for it, and uh, platform it's only like two months old. Because yeah, Cody Cody Coda built that thing, right, Yeah, I had help from a couple of friends, but yeah, exactly. And then he's just like, we don't got a name for it. So I was just like Pete five form, like no, that's that can't do that, and it was like power the power platform, and like platform is sweet though, Yeah, yeah, it's built there. I think it's important to mention because Matt does a whole bunch of haunts for wounded vets and so it's a way to get like is it full on like chair accessible Exactly. We're gonna put a ramp on it and we wheeloks there. Wheelchair accessible. Yeah, super cool place for the veterans wounded warriors to come and enjoy what we have for sure. So it's power platform. Boom, got it all right, Pete, thanks again, Thank you, thank you everyone for having until next time. Man. Okay, everyone, if you like me, Eater and our guests here that you just listen to Pete Alonso, go to YouTube and check out our show Get Toasted, which is our outdoor trivia show where we test people's outdoor knowledge. Pete did a pretty bang up job. It's funny. We drank bourbon we had some laughs. YouTube meat Eater get toasted pet Alonso and also you can scroll back and check out episode one with the beautiful and lovely Brian Callen