00:00:05 Speaker 1: Yo, what's up? 00:00:06 Speaker 2: You're off in God's Country with y'all boys reading Dan is Bull also known as The Brother's Hunt, where we take a weekly jove to the intersection of country music and the great outdoors, two things that go together like I Forgot mine, sayers like three doors. 00:00:28 Speaker 1: Down and here without you baby. 00:00:32 Speaker 2: Like Dan and not knowing any answer to any citizenship question, Yeah I should, I'm already says, get deported, dog. 00:00:42 Speaker 1: I believe red, white, and blue. Were they going to deport me? West Tones? See Oh I wish brought to you by Meat Eater and hit it? Ray? Hit it? Ray? Is it normal? Hit? 00:00:54 Speaker 3: Oh? 00:00:54 Speaker 1: It's gonna be patriotic? I'm messed up already. 00:00:57 Speaker 2: To kovas sponsor friends, Oh now was an eagle dude to come us sponsor the show down? 00:01:05 Speaker 1: Baby? 00:01:05 Speaker 4: They got the best boots and the bech just looking these pythons. Just head down to your honky tonk and get your boot slide on because they sponsoran. 00:01:16 Speaker 5: A show down the baby, especially after the citizen questions, Ray, dude, well, how did you get so good? 00:01:29 Speaker 1: He's so good? 00:01:30 Speaker 5: Nobody come in to the podcast Ray something to not come still? 00:01:34 Speaker 1: Ray dude, Yeah, I know you want it. I know y'all want it. Don't come get him? See hot? He was today? You have a girlfriend, Ray? You got a girlfriend? Oh? I guess not. Don't ask that question. 00:01:46 Speaker 5: Look, Ray's available if you if you think, how'd you take it? 00:01:50 Speaker 1: How'd you take your making? Let's just matchmaking here, send in your bow? No dogs, no dogs, he says, what else? Ray? A little mystery too? 00:02:03 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's definitely a mysterious Yeah. 00:02:10 Speaker 1: Okay, was that an elk? What was that? You don't even know? All right? Anyway, raised vailable d ms. That'd be fun. Oh maybe that should be our new our new five star thing. We'd leave us five stars and send a message, you know. Yeah, of why you want to steal him or date him? Use? He's hot stuff? Sorry? Ray here? 00:02:33 Speaker 2: Awesome Josh Ross, great dude, great music. That's right, new record coming out September nineteenth later today work visa from Canada was here. It was here twenty minutes before we were this morning, was he? 00:02:46 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm brutal, but we got it in one heart out one billion, one billion streams today. 00:02:54 Speaker 2: Outdoorsman man, Oh you could tell he lives it. It's funny when you talk to somebody from Canada, and you like, so tell me about all the steelhead you've caught, Like I love fishing for large enoughing. 00:03:06 Speaker 1: You know, I always think Canada is one hundred hours away. It's not. It's closer than Kansas. I mean, that's crazy to me. I just I don't know something about my you know me and geology. Never what else is up? I'm not even gonna say anything. Uh, I don't know what's up with you. I'm smelling something. Last week's was pretty good. I wonder if this this one will be ready. Rady Rady from g R eight hunts Great Hunts These brothers. Punt is the name of this five star review. Yeah, punt. This comment of this review at I'm already matten this guy. From the opening to cost jingle that has all the melodic qualities of fingernails on a chalkboard to the concluding bit favorite abtlutely titled because if you made it this far, you're ensuing vegetative state has rendered you dirt, nap adjacent. No periods in this entire thing. This is all one sentence. Jason God's Country is everything you would expect from two brothers in a middle school headlock, trying to out talk the other over some poor guests that has been lured to the show by promising them the fine pair of footwear I have been listening from day one. Thanks for the entertainment. Entertainment, y'all are great, but great hunts Uh pretty good? Yeah, pretty good? Pretty good. Yeah that deserves a small clap. Yeah pretty good. Wha clap, white clap. Uh. I need some punctuations, guys, we need some pronunciation. Praise feeling himself. You and Red need to calm down today so hot. I didn't even know I was flabbergasted. I was just holding on for dear life. Spell flabbergasted. F L A B B E R G A S T E D Yeah, dude, to thank you. You got to quit trying to get me on. I can spell spell arctic A r C R T S C. What is it? A R T S just to get out of here? 00:05:25 Speaker 2: Arctic cat arctic A R C T S I said a r C and he hit the buzzer, yeah, and you got so he was wrong, So he played you and you still just played me. 00:05:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got you got raid, you got parade. 00:05:38 Speaker 2: As long as I get that radio play Mackenzie Carroll lost the fifth grade spelling b to Arctic r He was the best speller in the world and that that word got him. 00:05:52 Speaker 1: They're like wrong, Arctic shout out, Matt, Sorry about that. Hey, thanks for hanging out. Enjoyed Josh Ross. We'll see you next time. Bro. 00:06:05 Speaker 2: We've got a number one song singing Canadian first uh single against your hit first Canadian mail To do that in thirty years pretty impressive. Yeah, it's crazy making history history in the industry. 00:06:21 Speaker 6: I think Paul Brann was the last one. 00:06:23 Speaker 1: Paul Brant. Yeah, you don't know about. 00:06:25 Speaker 2: No, I don't know Paul Bran. Cool last name, uh A furniture making. Yeah, we'll get into that. Oh, you're getting all the notes. Twenty twenty five, you know, winner for Country Album of the Year, A billion streams. Motocriss bike riding, I mean like not bike, but like actual like motorcycle. Murder cross, murdered cross. 00:06:46 Speaker 1: That sounds like it. 00:06:47 Speaker 2: That's what I said, murder I said murder cross. 00:06:51 Speaker 1: They sounds like a book. 00:06:52 Speaker 2: It's like a like a murder cross sounds like a Nephik Patterson book. That's let's go Yeah, like okay, that that would be a murder cross, a murder across. 00:07:02 Speaker 1: A guy that rode a bike that was convicted of murder killing somebody, and the screen, like the screens or the cover would be a cross necklace hanging on the the thing. It's gray. 00:07:18 Speaker 2: It's gray, dark with a little blood splatter. Yeah, but write that murder across. His highly anticipated full length debut album, Later Tonight, is set to release on September nineteenth. We've got Josh Ross out in God's Country. 00:07:32 Speaker 1: Sylvie Dog, what's going on? Sorry? Million years late, dud. 00:07:38 Speaker 5: Let's get into watching mad At because that's I got traffic not as excited as you. 00:07:42 Speaker 1: What? What am I? What? Am I? Mad at? Hold on a second, Joys, what you mad? Just tell us what it is? What you're mad? That's spinning up? 00:07:53 Speaker 2: He's got a hard out gin lost kids might be your boss man, all your neighbors cats? 00:08:00 Speaker 1: What you mad? Damn? This a little thing we do? You need to calm down, read Man, you need to calm down. Dude. 00:08:10 Speaker 2: I kind of got a poop. So I'm just being honest. So we're just I'm just trying to Damn, We're just trying to get You didn't get the morning on it yet, No, dude, I didn't have time. 00:08:18 Speaker 1: Crazy, what a dumb ass intro read? You can't say that, dude. We got guests here from Canada is very polite. Poop in Canada. They don't talk about it. Definitely Canada and they talk about it. Uh hey, let me just tell you a quick little thing. I'm mad at. 00:08:32 Speaker 2: I'm at And this is a traffic thing. Our fans are always like quick bitching about traffic. But it's we're always we come here coming from south, so it's like sixty five north every time. 00:08:42 Speaker 1: Right. 00:08:42 Speaker 2: So this guy, this guy this morning, this guy this morning, nobody was moving. It was like standstill traffic pretty much the entire way up here. This dude just rode my bumper the whole way and you could tell he was like back, and I was like, you know what, bro, I'm about to I'm about to put you in your place. Dude, watch this. This is a pro move. Next time you're doing this and somebody's behind you, do this. So I slowed down, so he sees like there's like runway in front of me, you know, to like get ahead a little bit. So I slow down. I let the car beside me pass me. He quickly swerves over into the right lane thing and he's gonna shoot up. Well, I just slow down. He swerves over, that car stops, he stops behind them. I let every car get behind me, and then we all take off and I just leave him back here. 00:09:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's stuck. 00:09:30 Speaker 5: And I was like, just sit back there and smash slam into your steir. And I used to just have the next five minute piece of shit car and I used to just slam on the brakes and then like, hope they would hit me because I needed a new car. 00:09:39 Speaker 1: I feel that. So what was your piece car? 00:09:42 Speaker 6: Pontiac five two thousand and eight, hatch back. 00:09:45 Speaker 5: That's the hot foam foam topper in the back. 00:09:50 Speaker 6: I used to sleep in it when I first came to town. 00:09:52 Speaker 1: Heck yeah, yeah, how long How many nights do you think you spending that thing? 00:09:56 Speaker 6: Probably about three four months? 00:09:58 Speaker 1: Any Sketchy, Any Sketchy used to. 00:09:59 Speaker 5: Park it's onny A TV parking lot and got a red door and then it's. 00:10:03 Speaker 1: Sleep at the sleep in the parlorment. Yeah, it's pretty safe. 00:10:06 Speaker 5: It's kind of hard when you're like trying to pick somebody up or something. You're like, hey, you want to go back. 00:10:08 Speaker 1: To my car. 00:10:09 Speaker 2: Sometimes we lived on a house dude. We lived on a houseboat for house four years literally at elm Hill. I mean it's free, right, you don't have to pay rent paid paid, Isn't it true? 00:10:20 Speaker 6: Though, if you're like out in the water, you don't have to pay No, all of that's not true. 00:10:24 Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I mean, like if you go live on a houseboat on the water, you can't do that, though. 00:10:28 Speaker 6: I mean you could. 00:10:28 Speaker 1: Technically, you can't do that. There's a lot of people that do that. There's not a lot of people that drive out into the water on Percy pre conhad and live on their boats. There's not a lot. 00:10:37 Speaker 6: Some people can't be like islands and stuff though, right. 00:10:39 Speaker 1: That you can't. Yeah, And like we lived technically we were on the water, but they on the slip so you pay slip feed. Plus they had internet. 00:10:46 Speaker 2: Well, but we weren't even supposed to be living on that no, we well we didn't. 00:10:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, for four years, we just stayed there. We were just like every night. 00:10:54 Speaker 2: That's what they that's what they say, is like you well, I'm sorry, that's what they said at the time. 00:10:59 Speaker 1: Now they're saying you can't even live like we did. But when they when we moved in, they said, you can't uh live here, you can visit three hundred and sixty four days a year. This is crazy. 00:11:10 Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is like me coming to the US and then being like, you only have six months and you're like counting your days. 00:11:16 Speaker 1: Jeez, it wasn't that bad. Okay, yours is probably a little more official than ours. 00:11:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, I never got to pored it, so that's good. You never what I never got the pored so that's good. Yet, yes, watch your mouth, Josh, what. 00:11:28 Speaker 1: Are you mad at? 00:11:29 Speaker 3: Dan? 00:11:29 Speaker 1: So what are you legal? Now? 00:11:31 Speaker 5: I like have like a work visa every three years. I got to renew that and then how do you renew it like a lawyer? 00:11:37 Speaker 1: It's expensive. It's crazy. 00:11:38 Speaker 2: Really, It's kind of like I got a I got a game for this. Don't don't spoil the thing yet, don't spoil by letting him talk instead of you. 00:11:45 Speaker 1: Just just continue what you're mad at. Then we'll get to the citizenship. I'm mad at you this morning. You need to calm down. Okay, go ahead, Josh, h o A. 00:11:54 Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys have had that some inside ball it's just a lot of things, like when we're not around, you gotta cut grass. If you don't cut grass to send a bill. Sometimes they don't even put the bill in the mailbox and then like they send a bill like the city comes around or whoever. 00:12:09 Speaker 6: The h A person is the Karen of the neighborhood. 00:12:12 Speaker 1: You know, this. 00:12:13 Speaker 5: Literally got some Karens, Like literally got some Karens like Karen. 00:12:16 Speaker 1: Their name is Karen. 00:12:17 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think my next door neighbor or Matt and my producer is next door neighbors Karen. 00:12:21 Speaker 1: She's like the head of the HOA. It's crazy, is yours Karen? No? 00:12:26 Speaker 2: I mean there is like the last three weeks reads much mad At has been his hoy. 00:12:31 Speaker 6: You have like a bunch of cars parked your house and stuff too. 00:12:33 Speaker 2: No I got I got an o f Outacoma that the that's pretty beat up that's parked up there, but I still use it. 00:12:39 Speaker 1: So it's against the rules, can't. Yeah. 00:12:41 Speaker 2: Their big thing was my shit and the tree's hanging over the road. Yes, no, some true that the suckers coming at the bottom of the tree. Why they were saying that is devalue in our neighborhood. Yeah, I mean probably what the what coming out of the tree. They call them suckers at the bottom, like you like, yeah, like new growth coming out of the bottom of the train. 00:13:00 Speaker 1: That truth. Oh, they're called suckers. 00:13:03 Speaker 6: It probably does look really terrible. 00:13:05 Speaker 2: Not anymore because they got so mad they cut it themselves, and I told them they could do it, and. 00:13:10 Speaker 5: Then they send you a bill. So that's what happened is they cut my grass and then send the bill. Ain't cut your grass, and then said the bill up. It was like it was like how much was thirty by thirty piece of grass? And it was like two hundred and fifty dollars and fifteen minutes g t FO. 00:13:25 Speaker 2: Dollar a minute. Let's go Yeah, geez, that is unbelievable. Okay, this, let's do a little. I'm not gonna make you do it because so do you have full citizenship? 00:13:34 Speaker 5: Uh no, technically no, just like a tax paying permanent person. 00:13:37 Speaker 1: All right, Dan, First of all, spell citizen c I T I ze in pretty good. What is the supreme law of the land. This is crazy, the supreme law of the land. Yeah, if somebody comes into your house, you can shoot them. 00:13:54 Speaker 5: These are sample US citizenship questions, is that wrong? 00:13:57 Speaker 1: Oh? For one? What does the constitution A lot of stuff? 00:14:02 Speaker 2: Oh for two, name name one branch or part of the government republican. For three, who is in charge of the executive branch? Walter Cronkink, Dude, are you being like for real? Try be for real? 00:14:17 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 00:14:19 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm I have to study all this stuff. I think it a federal law. 00:14:27 Speaker 1: Trump. I guess that's true, but not true but not right. 00:14:32 Speaker 5: One for six, So you have to study this stuff well eventually, yeah, and then you like, I think it's like out of two hundred questions, they can ask you like ten, that's right, oh five? 00:14:41 Speaker 6: And it could be like history. It can be like those questions when. 00:14:44 Speaker 5: You say they the US, what's what's the Citizenship Committee? 00:14:50 Speaker 1: There is what's it called the Bureau of Investigation? Spine out. 00:15:00 Speaker 5: Every time I walk through the border, it literally has a flag there that says it on it. And no. 00:15:06 Speaker 1: I wrote with Sam Ellis yesterday and we're finishing. Forget Sam, we're fishing today. 00:15:11 Speaker 2: Yeah and uh and he and we kind of talked about that and the questions that you're fishing today, I finishing. Do you think I got time to fish today. He said, we're fishing to literally in town to hate. Let's talk about fishing, dude. Let's just close our eyes. Everybody closed their eyes and just be on a fishing boat. 00:15:29 Speaker 1: Okay, where are you at? Hold on, everybody close their eyes, Josh, and your eyes closed. I can't talk his mine arm yep. All right, Josh, since this is about you, let me tell you where I'm at. Where are you fishing? 00:15:38 Speaker 6: And not read like, where are my fishing today? 00:15:41 Speaker 1: Right now? 00:15:42 Speaker 6: And you're just oh my gosh, probably one of the closing. 00:15:47 Speaker 5: I was looking at his watch. I'm not gonna lie. I'm just scared to keep my eyes. 00:15:50 Speaker 1: Nothing's happening, I promise. Okay, go Josh. Where are you at? 00:15:53 Speaker 5: Probably one of the great lakes up north. I have no clue where that is to explain it to me, just like beautiful green. 00:16:00 Speaker 1: Bushes and the interesting Okay, what boat are you in? 00:16:06 Speaker 5: My dad's two thousand and one triting bass boat. 00:16:10 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm there because. 00:16:12 Speaker 6: That's my just I remember my childhood on that boat. 00:16:14 Speaker 1: All right. What are you fishing with? What are you throwing? Tube? Jig? 00:16:17 Speaker 5: Probably white and black, lots of salt, you just tied it on, so the salts in your mouth, it's the best. 00:16:23 Speaker 1: Are you using a spinning rod? Are you for sure? Yeah? 00:16:28 Speaker 5: He's a flip You just flip and flip flipping short line docks. 00:16:33 Speaker 6: Docks are my favorite. Large for sure. 00:16:36 Speaker 1: I'm freaked out. I'm uping mass. You don't stay there from that, I'll stay there all day if you let me. Du Yeah, because what time of the year is it? 00:16:50 Speaker 6: Oh my god, probably like fall, false nice early spring. 00:16:55 Speaker 1: Open your eyes, you know, yeah, living in that moment, I want to we should try to do a full podcast with our eyes closed. That would be chaotic. 00:17:07 Speaker 2: I did see This is quite way off topic, but I did see where in some cultures they do like a twenty four hour reset and they put on like they put on dark glasses and you just sit there for twenty. 00:17:19 Speaker 6: Four hours, like the people walk around naked and stuff. 00:17:21 Speaker 1: Maybe who knows, they don't know, because I mean there could be people walking around naked like crazy. They got their eyes closed. I'm do a whole naked are you We should do that one next time you come. We're close your eyes and we're completely naked in the dark. Yeah. Uh, did you just recently buy some buy a property with some with a pond on it. Yeah. 00:17:43 Speaker 5: I bought a house in uh October, and I mean small just under five five acres, small house, three quarter acre ponds. 00:17:50 Speaker 6: Stocked them with some marsmouth pass go. 00:17:52 Speaker 1: They're growing. They started like two three inches twelve, So walk us through that process. Where'd you start? And where are you at now? With the house? 00:18:00 Speaker 5: Uh? 00:18:01 Speaker 1: With the fish. I don't care about your house. I mean I do. Yeah, No, I just want a house. 00:18:04 Speaker 5: But when I when I went to look at the property, I like, it's crazy. 00:18:07 Speaker 1: I didn't even own the house yet. 00:18:08 Speaker 5: And I brought like a fishing road testing it out, and there was there was some stuff in there. 00:18:12 Speaker 6: I was like okay, so and then got the house. 00:18:14 Speaker 5: I think the first thing I did was put a bunch of blue gill in and in large mouth, and guy came from Arkansas brought the fish, and uh yeah, just been been growing them. 00:18:22 Speaker 6: It's like I'm like weirdly obsessed with it. It's my money pit. 00:18:25 Speaker 5: Come on, Like you got there with like a little you know, like to weigh them, and I like catch them once a week and see that they're growing. And next year I got to remove the small ones. And it's crazy. 00:18:33 Speaker 1: You have you caught anything big in there? Are there big fish? That? There was nothing big? 00:18:37 Speaker 5: I did catch a catfish, which was super weird because they I was told there was nothing in there. I only caught one. Yeah, and it was big. It was like he was the guy. 00:18:44 Speaker 1: He was the guy. Yeah though, Yeah, they got what are you are? 00:18:48 Speaker 5: You just gonna do blue gill in large mouth? You're gonna try to do anything? No, because they'll compete. 00:18:53 Speaker 1: With the bass for the first space and for food. And then. 00:18:58 Speaker 5: I put some tilapia in there, just like keep algae down, but they'll all die. They die as soon as the waters blow fifty five really yeah, So you put them in every year and then they die. 00:19:06 Speaker 1: Out, eat algae. Yeah, clean it up a little bit and then they're good. They're good forge too, for like for the sure large mouth. Yeah, bassel smash them two. Yeah, that's awesome. 00:19:15 Speaker 2: We got in the community, the neighborhood we live in, there's a twenty acre lake in the back that is just just private to our community. And when I say we're the only ones that fishing, were the only ones that fish it. 00:19:23 Speaker 1: And my dad this year and we started four years ago. 00:19:27 Speaker 2: I was talking to Toxi Hayes and he was like, hey man, he was like, in that if you're trying to grow a trophy like trophy fish, trophy largemouth in that pond, he was like, for every acre, take out twenty five pounds of small fish. Yeah, and that's what we've been doing for four or five years. And uh and we were catching some five some six is you know when we started. But this year I caught like close to an eight and my dad in two weeks, my dad caught a ten and of twelve. Yeah, And so it's like it's it's awesome too. You can become obsessed with it and like and yeah, and it's just fun to read the benefits of it too. 00:19:59 Speaker 5: To go out there and catch big I just enjoyed. It's like my I mean, it is my happy place. And it's like hard for me with being on the road and coming home. It's like, okay, load the boat up, go out to Kentucky Lake. It takes you know, it takes a couple of hours of everything. So it's like nice to just like this morning, honestly, I went out at six thirty and just like had a coffee through the line for like twenty for twenty minutes, and then. 00:20:17 Speaker 1: You don't have kids. 00:20:18 Speaker 5: No, no, I know you don't because wouldn't out there six thirty with a coffee fishing. 00:20:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean fishing poop out of a dapper. That's what you would do. Uh yeah, that's enough? Is it? Your? Is that? How you is that? How you recharge? Is that? How like you disconnect from the madness? That what this is? I mean just that? 00:20:38 Speaker 6: Or like cutting grass or or paying someone to cut your grass. 00:20:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, joy I come home. I got like a zero turn and I love it. It's like four hours grass cutting and I put on like, oh your new spot. Yeah yeah, I was. You said your yard was real small. The reason why I said the h A thing was like I'm still the long story short, I had a bunch of roommates and I got stuck with the bill from all the h A fines and they're still saying me the h fines for real? 00:21:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, like almost a year later, your roommates are is and like it's. 00:21:08 Speaker 1: Under my name. 00:21:09 Speaker 5: So like they they increase in price, like when you don't pay them, they click another. 00:21:13 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like they out of percentage on like every month, So why don't you just pay you? Just like I'm not doing well. 00:21:19 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get the im Like, guys, there's four of us in this house. We need to split this. Yeah, that's for sure. 00:21:24 Speaker 1: And they've all moved on with their life. Mmm. 00:21:27 Speaker 2: I should do that with I should do that with my roommates, like Georgan, my two kids and my wife. 00:21:32 Speaker 1: I got some bloodsucking roommates in my my house. So them guys ain't worth nothing. It's crazy. You come home, man, It's like you come home and your kids have just destroyed like six bags of cheese. It's and probably eaten four or five of them. Oh the rest of them are stepped on in the in the rug. There's stuff everywhere. You're nanning your wife or like catching up watching Real Housewives of Atlanta or something. You're like, it's hating in here. 00:21:59 Speaker 6: It's like crazy because I don't know that life. 00:22:01 Speaker 1: I kicked the door on my. 00:22:07 Speaker 6: The things I get to look forward to coming. 00:22:10 Speaker 1: Let's go drink that cup of coffee and fish those twenty minutes every morning, close my voice every morning. Well you do it, ye, dude, fishing for me. I like to catch man. 00:22:24 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm the Pond's cool because it's like I know I'm going to catch something every morning. 00:22:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, Reid likes to figure it out and do all the things, but I find them. I like to go find the big one that's like young Kentucky Lake. I'm like, holler at me when you get them, and I'll kind of go. 00:22:36 Speaker 5: And then it's been a challenge for me too because like in Canad where I grit when you fish, it was all shoreline fishing, like dogs, fallen trees, whereas like if you go in Percy or something, it's like you got the absolutely and like, I do not understand that way. 00:22:47 Speaker 1: Ledge fishing. Yeah it's tough, man, Yeah it's tough. 00:22:50 Speaker 2: And that's where like but you really have to understand and know the pretty much suck the water out of the out of the river of the lake and see where those ledges are, where that current, where the river channel is, what creeks are coming in where, And that does take some I'm not really good at that either, because we grew up fishing Pickwick Lake, which is very similar to Kentucky Lake, and so it's the same thing. Man, if you go early March, you know, pre spawn spawn postpone. You can flip every dock, go back into every creek and catch You're gonna catch fifty fish and about probably ten of them are over five six pounds, right. 00:23:23 Speaker 1: And all it is is just just lizard fish. That's fun. 00:23:27 Speaker 5: Oh so much like the Yeah, like trying to figure out the slop stuff's little weird. Like I'm like, why am I sixty feet from the shore fishing? Oh? 00:23:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to hear about Canada a little bit. Where are you at there? 00:23:37 Speaker 5: I grew up in Ontario, so between Buffalo Detroit. It's about twelve hours from here for you here to drive. 00:23:44 Speaker 1: Okay, do you did you do any like fishing excursions up there or did you kind of stay local too? Yeah? 00:23:52 Speaker 6: That was more I was more local for sure. 00:23:54 Speaker 5: My dad, I mean he just my dad competitively fish bass fishing for a while really and that's kind of got me into it. And then sure, yeah, have. 00:24:02 Speaker 1: You done any of the like salmon ryans or any of that stuff up there? No? 00:24:05 Speaker 5: A lot of people like like the fly fishing and all that stuff. I never I never have. 00:24:09 Speaker 2: It's interesting either, sounds like you kind of have the same fishing back bass fish. 00:24:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, our dad did the same thing. He was he was fishing. 00:24:17 Speaker 2: Local turns through George and stuff like that. Uh, dude was talking about motocross for a second. Murder Cross, Murder Cross? 00:24:25 Speaker 1: How did you get y'all feel like next Flix is kind of trash lately. I just feel like I feel like everything's just like, yeah, what do I watch? Yeah? Same? I don't know. Same. 00:24:38 Speaker 2: We just watched We're watching the Dallas Cowboys thing right now, and we watched it untamed the cheerleader thing. 00:24:44 Speaker 6: I was gonna say, we're not going to get into that the cheerleader thing. 00:24:48 Speaker 1: Wasn't there a document? No, that's like becoming a Dallas cheerleader. I'm not saying. 00:24:53 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I watched that. I think it was little c MT for a while. Episode seven where at the pool. 00:25:01 Speaker 1: Party I felt so sorry for I'm just kidding. I got a wife. I love her very much. She knows that, Uh, motocross, how'd you get into that? Dad? Again? 00:25:12 Speaker 5: So, my dad raised professionally in Canada growing up. Dad's cool. He's cool, dude. Yeah, I mean. 00:25:17 Speaker 1: How old your dad? 00:25:18 Speaker 6: He is going to be sixty this November? 00:25:20 Speaker 1: Okay, So we gotta. She seemed like, how old are you? 00:25:23 Speaker 2: I can't say I'm thirty, no way. Yeah, oh I have said twenty two. Dude, you look awesome. Thank you, you're rocking. I haven't drank in three weeks. 00:25:32 Speaker 1: Congratulations. 00:25:33 Speaker 6: So that's I think helped. 00:25:34 Speaker 2: I can tell by the skin tone really yeah, thanks, you're glowing. I stole that from Trashy Tammy. 00:25:39 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. The skin tone thing, I know, I'll give it. I'll give my mom the credit for that. My mom is like sixty five, and I think she looks like she's fifty. 00:25:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're doing great man, great jeans. So he did he ride competitively too. Uh yeah. 00:25:54 Speaker 5: So he did that and then he got really hurt in his early twenties, met my mom stopped riding, and then when I was like six or eight, he was like, hey, why don't we all get trail bikes and just ride together as a family. And then that turned into every weekend racing and then I did that for until. 00:26:10 Speaker 1: I was about eighteen, and riding competition stuff. Yeah, yeah, racing and stuff. So we we were you good. I was like a B level rider. 00:26:17 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was not like I was not going to be you know on TV, you know, raced supercross or anything like that. But the hard part is too is like in Canada, it's like the season is so short, like you ride from April till September if that, because you know, it's like all these riders live in Florida. 00:26:33 Speaker 1: They live and they're riding all your year year run and I wasn't. 00:26:35 Speaker 5: And that decision came up of like what do you want to do, And it's just I was I was already not ahead enough to compete. 00:26:42 Speaker 1: At that level. 00:26:42 Speaker 2: What's the difference between a B level rider and the best rider in the world. 00:26:47 Speaker 6: Oh my god, they're so fast, it's crazy. 00:26:49 Speaker 1: It's so strictly speed. 00:26:50 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's such a sport where people everybody thinks you get on you just like twist the throttle. 00:26:55 Speaker 1: But it's like it is. 00:26:57 Speaker 5: I think it's one of the most, if not the most physically demanding sports. 00:27:00 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fighting words. 00:27:01 Speaker 5: Yeah, well I'm not kidding, Like I think, like your heart rate is something like eighty percent of your max heart rate for like thirty minutes straight. 00:27:08 Speaker 1: Wow, you're riding a bike. 00:27:09 Speaker 5: I mean it's kind of like riding like a I don't know, you're just like hold on, it's like riding a bowl or yeah, that's yeah, I've heard like that, like water polo. 00:27:16 Speaker 6: Like some of those other ones are like those are something. 00:27:18 Speaker 5: Like the toughest toughest sports in regards to like max heart rate stuff. Yeah, me and Dan almost both died on a on two strokes before. 00:27:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still have a bike. I bought a bike last year. They're terrifying, Yeah, especially if we don't know how to ride them. Yeah, it's just like that's what we did. We hopped on and just headed down some hills. Let's go. Next thing, I know, I was flipping over the bars like a bitch. 00:27:41 Speaker 2: I was last thing I remember about last time I ever rode a motorcycle. I was literally going through the woods, not only off the trail with my legs hanging that like this on the back like I was like the whiskey off the back and at the back. 00:27:58 Speaker 5: Flipped Superman on that all the way down. His legs were just I was like I fell and. 00:28:05 Speaker 2: Got up like that, and Damn was like dude, I was like, I'm not riding that back up. 00:28:09 Speaker 6: It's a terrible feeling when you know that you're about to crash. 00:28:12 Speaker 1: That's the worst, bro. 00:28:13 Speaker 5: I mean, I can always remember. It's like in that moment, it all happens like so like kind of slow, like you're going through there like ship there goes to landing. 00:28:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to figure out just trying to find a place to lay it down. Yeah. 00:28:26 Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm not riding that back up, dude, I'm not riding that thing back up. And he was like, okay, let me get out of it. And he was like, if we walked it back up the. 00:28:35 Speaker 1: Hill, it was off that thing, you know. I'll tell you. While we were dumb on them, I flipped going down there. We were like, let's build a ramp. I fell it flipped going down the hill because I hit the front brakes. I didn't even know there's a rear break. You didn't know. I rode the front bakes the entire day. 00:28:55 Speaker 2: And we got back and it was Tucker's It was Tucker bethams uh brother's bike that I was on, and I was like, gosh, dude, if fliptover I hit those breaks and fliptos handmars, how do you do that? 00:29:04 Speaker 1: He goes, I used the foot break and I was like, there's a foot break. He's like, yeah, it's so. And then I figured out you could do that and slow your back wheel down and your front going over the handlebars. Yeah. Great sport. They're super dangerous. Yeah yeah, I bet I bet there's people get killed in that ship. Yeah. 00:29:26 Speaker 2: Let's talk about your journey to Nashville where you played college football. 00:29:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, and oh really you try it anyway? Were you let me just receiver? Running back? Defense, back, deep? Yeah, quick, corner, safety, corner. That's fun. 00:29:40 Speaker 5: Played a little safety, but mostly I was more chasing people around. Uh did you have like aspirations of trying to do anything with that? 00:29:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, like CFL. 00:29:48 Speaker 5: I mean, if I really was lucky you had been like NFL practice roster again, it was like good, but not like you know great, and uh yeah, and then I just had I had two ankle surgeries on the O this ankle and and uh yeah, just I was like I fell completely out of love with the sport. 00:30:03 Speaker 6: Like it was like what am I Like, I. 00:30:04 Speaker 5: Completely would get back from an injury and then it happened again and I'm like all right, I'm just done with this. And then it's like, you know, it gets political, like you're you know, you're in your second third year. Freshman's are coming in and it's like, you know they're healthy or not. It kind of started to be that cycle for me. And then at that time I started playing music and I was just like I didn't even know what music meant. I was just like, I'm in love with this music thing, whatever that is, and I need to try to figure out what that is. 00:30:29 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what it did. Are the Edmonton Elks? Is that CFL? There's some Elks somewhere because I got the shirt and it's my favorite sweatshirt, but I don't know where they used to be. It's an it's a green Elk. It kind of looks like the Bucks. 00:30:44 Speaker 6: The hockey team CFL. 00:30:47 Speaker 1: I got it when I was to get nailed for not knowing what is it? Josh? Yes? Wait what say that's your favorite team? Yeah? See them? They're green and yellow. Yep, it's my favorite sweatshirt. 00:30:59 Speaker 5: The're in the CFL used to be the Edmonton Eskimos. Search Edmonton Eskimos. I mean that's how long I have not paid attention. 00:31:06 Speaker 1: Well, look, I was on it. I was out loose. Maybe they changed the name because of like a they changed the sure, they changed the name. So there you go. 00:31:15 Speaker 5: You're you're you're off the off the hood politically off too far you politically no way? 00:31:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, has got canceled. 00:31:27 Speaker 6: No, I'm not kidding. I'm not going down that train. 00:31:29 Speaker 2: Sorry, we can Okay, I'm just gonna scratch all these questions. 00:31:33 Speaker 1: You don't you can't Yeah, I don't know. They can't be mad changed since I left. You can't be mad at what you don't ask him? No, you know what I'm saying. Asking a asking? No? Asking not enough? Uh? Where did your love? Have you always loved music? Yeah? 00:31:49 Speaker 5: I mean like so my mom is like a music nut, like what I mean, like everything. My dad was more like hair metal that kind of stuff. And then yeah, like I was, I was like the party trick. I'd be like, go to a bar or whatever, and it would be like Josh go singing three doors down or Leonard Skinner or. 00:32:07 Speaker 1: Something what three doors down? 00:32:09 Speaker 6: So you say, probably here without you, I'm trying it. 00:32:13 Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. How does it start? Though? I can't remember the way. All I know is here used to talking about you and not dream about you. Sorry, sorry, nailed it. It took me a second. That's not, of course. 00:32:36 Speaker 2: Do yeah, yeah, one, two, three, out you baby. 00:32:43 Speaker 5: We used to. 00:32:46 Speaker 3: I think about you baby, and that dream about you. Here we out you baby. 00:32:57 Speaker 1: We used to with thin dreams. There you go. It's so. 00:33:07 Speaker 3: Me. 00:33:10 Speaker 6: There we go. 00:33:11 Speaker 1: But yeah, I was like I was like that or like, I don't know, hinder or something like that. I don't know. Oh good, here we go. That's photograph. That's that's not I was about to go over there too. What you done? 00:33:24 Speaker 5: So touring with right, yeah, fifty two shows like two guys angel. 00:33:33 Speaker 1: See my name sounds so sweet? All right, put the guitar up. It's playing out like three steps up. It took me a second. Sorry, listen, I'm really good at guitar. 00:33:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh really not so when like when was it like when did your mind? When did you make it up in your mind to go, Hey man, I think I'm gonna give this country music thing to go, and and were you like I'm just gonna do it in Canada or I'm just gonna know want to jump ship and go to the US and try it out. 00:34:04 Speaker 5: So I guess what jump ship would be kind of the word I just I've always been one of those people like when I became obsessed with something, I like literally just was I'm just gonna do it. 00:34:13 Speaker 1: You're a dude, and we all do Yeah. Yeah, dang that all makes sense now Yeah, good, good or bad. 00:34:20 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it doesn't matter. We forget everything else and just see it. Yeah, see it. 00:34:25 Speaker 5: Yeah tunnel vision absolutely, and uh yeah, I just basically I graduated, got a job, and sixteen months later it was like, I'm just gonna move. I knew one person in town who was I knew guy even Aaron Goodvi and he introduced me a guy named Greg. 00:34:40 Speaker 1: Bates written there kind of came up with there and then uh Greg the killer too. Greg. 00:34:46 Speaker 6: Yeah, they like brought me, brought me to town. 00:34:48 Speaker 5: I did like a little recording project and sure, honestly, was just trying to figure out I knew nobody. 00:34:54 Speaker 6: That's why I sleep in my car. I was gonna read door, just like trying to connect. 00:34:56 Speaker 1: Dots, try to get rights. 00:34:57 Speaker 5: Yeah, met some of the people I still write to this day, and it's awesome. But yeah, I mean I literally my parents were like, what what do you mean? Like I got a degree in health science, like kinesiology, and I was like, I'm gonna go be a country music singer. The playing bars, They're like wait what. And we all came down on New Year's of seventeen. It was like super col Key Thurban played. I always remember and uh like I remember walking in out of bars. My dad was like, there's a lot of talented people here. 00:35:25 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:35:27 Speaker 5: Good luck really my dad always my dad so like blue, Like he gets up every day like four o'clock and it goes to work. 00:35:35 Speaker 6: It's just a hard working dude. 00:35:36 Speaker 5: And I think he was just literally like like you need to think about this one. 00:35:40 Speaker 2: He was right, Yeah, there are a lot of talent, Oh my gosh people here. 00:35:47 Speaker 1: I think what separates that is. We talked about this pretty a bit, but it's like the having the work ethic. It's hard to find creative people that have a go get get them out. Because we're so creative we just kind of think, yeah, that different talent will take us there. But if you can put the rubber to the road, you know, Carl move a little faster. 00:36:10 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I knew I was behind, Like I think that was a big thing for me. It was like I was like, Okay, I'm moving to a place where I know the best writers and singers and yeah, you know people in the industry are and how do I catch up? It was always like the challenge for me, Like I sometimes I was more excited about a right because like you know, I knew the person was like a good vocalist too, and it was like, okay, well, I like let me listen to them sing. And then you know, I got really lucky too, Like I got to meet a lot of great people. I ended up being roommates with Camra Marlow for a minute. Yeah, listening to that dude sing every day. 00:36:38 Speaker 1: It was like he's a killer. 00:36:39 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, crazy, and it just it. I learned a lot really really fast, and I was obsessed with it. 00:36:44 Speaker 1: Again. 00:36:44 Speaker 5: It was like just tunnel vision. I think it's still it, you know, is to a degree. And I mean obviously how you get the big picture and you realize it's not just you a guitar and a song. It's totally a whole bunch of people make a lot of decisions. 00:36:55 Speaker 1: But yeah, who are some of your favorite writers? Co writers? 00:36:58 Speaker 6: Mison Thornley is still a good friend mine. 00:37:00 Speaker 5: He he started, He's like my second or third, right, We wrote a bunch of songs, Brad Rumpel, Joe Fox. 00:37:06 Speaker 6: We just had the single again song, which which was really great. 00:37:08 Speaker 1: I love Old Ramp. I love Joe too. I don't know Joe, but I love it. That's great. 00:37:12 Speaker 5: Matt Drew, my producer, I mean, he's also a great writer. He always just gets kind of put in that like your producer box. But you know, he's such a great writer. And I've met so many people, I mean, Michael Tyler, Yeah, stuff that. 00:37:25 Speaker 1: What uh, let's talk about the record? Yeah what? What? Uh? When did you start? 00:37:31 Speaker 2: When did you start like getting it all together, mixing it all in the pot and saying, I think these are the songs that I want to I want to put out to the world. 00:37:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:37:38 Speaker 5: I started saving songs three three and a half years ago for the album. I did an EP in between, but I knew certain songs were not meant to be on the EP, and so there are some songs on the record that are like three and a half four years old. And then I mean there was a song that we wrote right before we turned it in and recorded. So there's like a good mixture of stuff. There's outside cuts too. I was always so like in the beginning against Outside Cuts, it's like I have to write every they have to write it. I think a part of that was, like I had the time in town. All I was doing was writing, wishing I was on the road, and then not things to say probably yeah yeah, and then you know, dreams come true and I'm gone. You know, last year, one hundred and seventy five shows last year, and it's like, Okay, I'm not writing as much. So I know, out of my pool of normally say one hundred and fifty songs they write a year, and I thought maybe ten or fifteen were good. It's like, well, I'm only writing fifty songs or twenty songs. Yeah, I know there's only two or three that are good. So I need to go find, you know, good songs and ones that I believe in and ones that I felt. 00:38:36 Speaker 6: Like I'm very passionate about. 00:38:37 Speaker 5: I know people say this all the time, but like I have to feel like I wrote the song or lived whatever it is, and I feel like there's a good good make sure that on the record. Song you gave me is songs you gave me sick, thank you, so you've heard it. 00:38:49 Speaker 1: I think that's my favorite one. Geesh, that's a killer. 00:38:52 Speaker 6: So that's the oldest song on the record. It's the oldest. That's the oldest song on the record, is it. 00:38:56 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's actually the original vocal from we were in Gatlinburg on a writing a treat. 00:39:00 Speaker 1: Was basically hammered saying that vocal. 00:39:04 Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like we touched We touched up some of it, and it was like there was something about it sounding kind of like so raw. 00:39:12 Speaker 2: That's what That's what I was gonna say, Like you can it almost sounds emotional, you know, like the yea, even the even the vocal on it. 00:39:18 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:39:18 Speaker 5: I remember being like, I mean we wrote that first verse. I always remember. It was Matt with Matt and Mason and uh we got like the second line of the first verse and they're like, Josh, what do you think about that? 00:39:29 Speaker 1: And I just have my head down and they're like, what do you think about that line? 00:39:32 Speaker 5: I looked at and I was like kind of crying, and they're like, Okay, this is good. 00:39:36 Speaker 1: He likes it. He likes yeah. 00:39:38 Speaker 6: I mean it was just a you know, a moment in my life. 00:39:40 Speaker 5: Thank got him through all that stuff now, But yeah, one time I wanted to call it for the project like songs you gave me, but that's a killer. 00:39:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a killer. Do you how do you find time to be inspired? Like with with the Road? Does the Road inspire you do things in your life? 00:39:58 Speaker 6: It's definitely things in my life. 00:40:00 Speaker 5: I mean I've gone through so many different, you know, changes, whether that be single life, girlfriend life, then back to single and you know, just figuring that out. 00:40:08 Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, like I can. 00:40:10 Speaker 5: Be an idiot, and I've been an idiot and you know, got to party and do all the fun things. And I think a lot of those songs like on a Different Night and red Flags and all you know, those kinds of songs just came from me being like honest with my life and the things I was doing. 00:40:23 Speaker 6: And I think now people are starting to realize that. 00:40:26 Speaker 5: I think for a long time people just thought I was writing songs just becuzin It's like no, these were like Trouble was a real story about you know, I called an ex girlfriend and then left a voicemail me like I'm in trouble, could. 00:40:35 Speaker 6: You come back home? 00:40:37 Speaker 5: And like that was a real life Yeah, I think, I mean, yeah, I don't know, I gotta be careful with you. Almost said thank god, no saying thank god, that's not the thing anymore. Yeah, yeah, but but no, I mean I truthfully look at like everything was like a stepping stone in my life. And you know, there's there's a Moment's had a moment for good reasons and you know, as much as sometimes they're terrible in the moment, looking back, now I'm like, thank God that made me. 00:41:04 Speaker 1: You know, so absolutely, what's next for you? Are you doing this all? You're going on the road? Are you on the road right now? Yeah? We're up. We're like Faris festivals. 00:41:13 Speaker 5: We get some Riley Green dates coming up and Bill Scott dates coming up, and then. 00:41:16 Speaker 1: We're gonna roll into next year. 00:41:17 Speaker 5: Lots of announcements for next year and obviously we got the record coming in September, so awesome, we'll do. 00:41:22 Speaker 1: Congrats on everything, Thank you very much. I wish you could sit here for another two hours. That you've got stuff to do. 00:41:26 Speaker 5: Man, you basically we're trying to pack it in home for two days, so yeah, two days. 00:41:30 Speaker 6: You have to leave this afternoon, California. 00:41:32 Speaker 1: So I'm excited. Thank yeah. Where are you going in California. 00:41:35 Speaker 6: Big state north of Sacramento. 00:41:36 Speaker 1: Oh so you'll be up there. Yeah, don't stay there too long. It's pretty up there. Now. We're pretty I like it out there. He gets crazy. That's pretty pretty. Northern California's great. Yeah, California. Yeah, you've spent some time there, you know, it seems like a la. No, it's funny. I grew up. 00:41:51 Speaker 5: I got family in Santa Monica, so I got to kind of like experience that in that lifestyle. 00:41:54 Speaker 6: And I mean there, it's really where they live. 00:41:56 Speaker 5: It's really beautiful and it's fun, and everybody's fit and looks good. And there is something about l A that's you know. So it's a different piece, it's equal. 00:42:05 Speaker 2: I think it's the guys with needles in their arms that get me passed along. I think it's the blood. What's a little different than Santa Fee. I think it's the blood drinking for me. Let's do uh, let's do a graver song before we get out of here. 00:42:17 Speaker 1: Just kidding, La. We love you, man, No we don't. 00:42:22 Speaker 6: And I'm gonna be careful with what I say. 00:42:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well it's too late for that, buddy. 00:42:26 Speaker 2: We do, we do greatest slash favorite song. 00:42:30 Speaker 1: Uh you said yours was what the second verse of simple Man into the chorus. 00:42:38 Speaker 2: Josh Ross, there we go go that's country, but well take time to live to fast. Troubles will come and they will pass. 00:42:58 Speaker 3: Your final Yeah, yeah you're five, but don't forget song that this song. 00:43:13 Speaker 1: And baby be a simple kind of me him. 00:43:21 Speaker 3: I'm being something you loving them understand and baby being a simple. 00:43:32 Speaker 1: Still come in. I want to do this form song if you can. Come on, Smoothie old jobs collect right there. For a second time I heard it. I heard Hey, thank you, very very controlled dude. You're a very good, great controlled singer. Do you working at it work? I think I don't feel like you're working at it. I feel like it's natural. I feel like you were with that man. Yeah, I agree. I don't feel like you have to work. No, that's really really good. Thank you, great, thank you. Uh, I know you got some I do already. Here you go, come on man a little and with that, with that, there's a there's one condition. Yeah, we have to have a cup of coffee and Fisher pond with you sometimes with her eyes closed and songs on the next record. I'm just saying, yeah, we define find you take that part. It's crazy. 00:44:27 Speaker 6: We haven't we have not wrote, right, Yeah, I haven't. 00:44:29 Speaker 2: I mean we have before when you said nice to me, when you said nice to meet me, like when when do we write? When you said when I came in and I was like, dude, joy when we again, you said nice to meet to you. 00:44:37 Speaker 1: That was cool for me. Are you being serious? It was a lot of time, was I hammered? I don't know. 00:44:44 Speaker 5: We have not o'clock in the morning. I think me and Jacob Lutz. Yes, you are right, maybe we have. There's a lot of dark days. 00:44:52 Speaker 1: I'm really forgettable. I'm really forgetting. I feel terrible now you should. You should. I'm on California. Non No, dude, I forget everyone. But we haven't written. I don't think. Yeah we have we have? Oh you oh kidding? We haven't wrote. 00:45:11 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna feel real bad. 00:45:15 Speaker 1: Script. 00:45:17 Speaker 5: I appreciate your love you Uh yeah, dude, congrats on everything. 00:45:21 Speaker 2: Record's awesome coming out September nineteen. Ye later, tonight, Josh Ross, everybody back. 00:45:27 Speaker 1: Come back? Ye well yeah, come back, we have more time. I appreciate y'all all the best. Thank you, see