00:00:00 Speaker 1: Casey Tyler and you're listening to the Element Podcast Road Trips Edition. 00:00:15 Speaker 2: Yet guys, Yeah, Mike can't handle it. You don't understand, you know, Michael, I love him to death. No, he's still in that portion of his life where he thinks that appearance matters. 00:00:32 Speaker 3: You know. 00:00:32 Speaker 4: I mean like he thinks that, like the way you care yourself matter. 00:00:36 Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's curious. 00:00:39 Speaker 4: You can tell you he thinks his physical appearance matter. She's wearing a first like killing hoodie. 00:00:43 Speaker 1: Right now, it's let's go. You know this podcast is brought to you by First Light. Michael will not take it off. No, come on now, y'all know that, y'all ever hear that? There was a song one hit wonder band called the Donnas, who's all females, had this song called take It Off. I thought I saw that was Madonna. No, that was the Donna's she had cooler. Uh you done? 00:01:07 Speaker 3: No, I don't know what Donna? 00:01:11 Speaker 5: Brother? 00:01:13 Speaker 2: He Eric got us on his uh. 00:01:17 Speaker 3: Casada, We'll go okay, got is that the onions? Yeah they're better than McDonald onions. 00:01:23 Speaker 4: What were you gonna do? 00:01:24 Speaker 5: So he was just gonna say nothing but me. 00:01:25 Speaker 2: We stopped our favorite, one of our favorite. 00:01:28 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of like one might. 00:01:30 Speaker 2: Everybody knows rules ride day point, but like we say, every Mexican restaurant, our favorite Mexican restaurant. 00:01:35 Speaker 4: We stopped at our favorite Mexican restaurant on a road. 00:01:38 Speaker 2: Road trip today and our good friend Eric had the boldness to go first man. 00:01:44 Speaker 4: He stepped up and said, I know what. 00:01:46 Speaker 1: I want, And somehow the little chica behind the bar didn't know. The counter didn't know that this redheaded guy speaking Illinois, I know that all the Spanish words. 00:01:59 Speaker 3: You know. 00:02:00 Speaker 2: She spoke great English and didn't really even have an accident when she spoke English. 00:02:05 Speaker 4: But she just said instead of onion. 00:02:07 Speaker 3: But she said I thought she said that. 00:02:09 Speaker 1: She said what she say, cilantro, sebolia and something she said she I think so I thought she said another Spanish word. 00:02:15 Speaker 2: I think we cilantro might might have been where you get that's. 00:02:20 Speaker 5: Asian word, didn't it? 00:02:21 Speaker 1: No, Cilantro is the Asian or is the Mexican form of coreander. Was was coriander, which is an Asian ingredient, right, but originally. 00:02:31 Speaker 4: I mean, I know that they it's in Asian food. 00:02:33 Speaker 1: I think I think it comes from like Russia or Asia. 00:02:37 Speaker 3: Or something like that. 00:02:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, Russia is an Asia. 00:02:39 Speaker 1: There you go, Rasia, Pantemonia or what it's called. What's the what's the full all the. 00:02:47 Speaker 3: Earth being in one Pangaea? Yeah, Pangaea. 00:02:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, pre pre flood, the pre flood world. 00:02:53 Speaker 1: That's what I would I would think the people that subscribe to Pangaea actually don't think about the flood probably don't. 00:03:01 Speaker 4: But Eric ordered a polio case ida. Did you say no? 00:03:07 Speaker 3: No? 00:03:08 Speaker 5: She said they were out of because I was like, oh, then he deserved that. 00:03:11 Speaker 3: He said, well, can I have some chicken? 00:03:15 Speaker 6: I didn't want toy Grease, but ended up still getting Grease. 00:03:18 Speaker 2: Grease lightning over here, Danny Zuko, who's your Sandy? Eric? 00:03:24 Speaker 3: My Sandy? 00:03:24 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question. 00:03:31 Speaker 3: At all. What's being talked about? Right? 00:03:33 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's about forty years you're elder right there, forty years older. 00:03:39 Speaker 5: Seventy years is came out like an eighty two or something like that. 00:03:43 Speaker 1: I didn't even watch Grease, man, I love it this way before my time. 00:03:46 Speaker 4: Grease too was terrible. Don't watch that Grease one original Greece. 00:03:49 Speaker 5: Is you're talking about Greasebusters too. 00:03:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, I never watched that movie. 00:03:52 Speaker 3: Did you know that? 00:03:52 Speaker 4: I've never watched any Ghostbusters. 00:03:54 Speaker 3: I don't think I have either. 00:03:56 Speaker 4: We're on a road trip to go Turkey hunting. 00:03:59 Speaker 3: All these dear please get. 00:04:04 Speaker 2: We're gonna have some deer content. In fact, we're talking about doing a Q and A. It's always a good time to do a Q and A. 00:04:10 Speaker 4: About deer hunt for sure. But I think we're gonna do some topical top podcasts. 00:04:16 Speaker 2: Where we cover some deer hunting tactics and some things. 00:04:20 Speaker 4: Then maybe we've learned. 00:04:21 Speaker 1: If you have somebody that you'd like to see us talk to on the podcast, send us a message on Instagram or Facebook, or you don't even go to our website, I think. 00:04:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. 00:04:35 Speaker 2: Email at the element, at the meteater dot com. 00:04:40 Speaker 4: That's what you should do. 00:04:40 Speaker 2: Lots of these, uh yeah, lots of the people when I say V on the phone, they don't have a clue what I'm saying. V. 00:04:47 Speaker 1: No, I tell you when I book hotels, I say, can I just tell you my email when I get there? Please, I'm gonna send you a confirmation through your email, like I will tell you when I get there, I promise, but let's just not do this right now. 00:05:00 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So we're headed turkey hunting. But I and Padres just. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: Returned from a turkey hunt quest adventure. 00:05:12 Speaker 3: It was definitely an adventure. 00:05:13 Speaker 2: I believe for one of you it was your first time interstate. 00:05:20 Speaker 4: We mean, we can tell the state on this and right, sure, where'd you go? 00:05:22 Speaker 3: Michael went to Iowa, the land of giant everything. Wow. I mean they say everything is bigger in Texas. But when we saw those deer for the first time, they look like moose out in the field. 00:05:33 Speaker 5: You have ever seen a large mount fasts in Iowa? 00:05:35 Speaker 3: No, I haven't. 00:05:37 Speaker 2: I saw there. 00:05:40 Speaker 4: Called ditch piggle. 00:05:41 Speaker 3: It might be smaller in Texas. 00:05:43 Speaker 4: We got ditch watermelons. 00:05:47 Speaker 5: I saw you planted some. Were you playing watermelons? 00:05:50 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:05:50 Speaker 2: Planting a thousands and we were between equipment and Winnsboro. 00:05:59 Speaker 3: Is it family property? Really? 00:06:01 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:06:01 Speaker 5: I didn't know y'all had all that kind of stuff. 00:06:03 Speaker 2: Yeah. My mom's family lives off over that way, and that's my first cousin and her husband. 00:06:08 Speaker 4: They've got a a about twenty acres over there. We're planning some watermelons on about two or three of it. 00:06:14 Speaker 1: What I just don't need to say some things that I think And first cousband, I don't need to say it. I don't have to say it. 00:06:25 Speaker 4: All jubilees, which is the superior watermelon? 00:06:30 Speaker 2: Is it? 00:06:31 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:06:31 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're. 00:06:32 Speaker 4: Talking about size, taste, texture, everything put together, a jubilee is just impossible to beat. 00:06:37 Speaker 3: What about them yellow flesh? 00:06:38 Speaker 2: They're good, but their size are actually kind of small. I planted, I planted twenty six of those in my garden. 00:06:46 Speaker 3: Are you selling the Are you playing these to sell? Yes? 00:06:49 Speaker 2: Not the not the yellows or oranges that I planned yesterday, But the jubilees will be on sale or foresal not on seal as they say. Yeah, it's really of my dad's venture more than mine. I'm just kind of helping. It's the thing my family has done watermelon, watermelon farming for a large. 00:07:06 Speaker 4: Course of my life. 00:07:07 Speaker 2: And before that, my grandparents owned a little country store in Como, Texas where pop raised a bunch of vegetables and then sold you know, gas station stuff. 00:07:17 Speaker 4: But they also had. 00:07:19 Speaker 2: Like a butcher shopping there and some other things, and he would bring in the vegetables they raised and sell them in there, and so these old watermelons in there quite a bit. But yeah, it's kind of a family thing that we've always done. And right now and Zone eight A, it is time to plant melons. 00:07:37 Speaker 4: So get your melons on the ground. If you're down here, it's. 00:07:39 Speaker 5: Like, it's a good way for me to kill some melons. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: If you're both zoned seven A, don't even try because they don't do well. 00:07:46 Speaker 4: It's the hot way to crop. Michael's probably never tasted a watermelon. 00:07:50 Speaker 2: I've tasted, so you had seedless watermelons, which are an abomination in case they are good watermelons are. 00:07:59 Speaker 4: Made to have seeds and seedless watermelon that just ain't right. That's why kids are confused. 00:08:05 Speaker 1: Now that it's exactly Listen, this is like beans and chili. 00:08:11 Speaker 5: Man, I don't get it. 00:08:13 Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's nothing like chi. All ingredients. You're taking out something that's supposed to be there. You're not supposed to do that. 00:08:22 Speaker 5: Well, so I'm gonna say beans are supposed to be there. 00:08:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:08:24 Speaker 4: I like beans in my chili too, but those are all ingredients. 00:08:29 Speaker 2: It's not like the chili was was made by God to have the beans in it. 00:08:35 Speaker 5: When's the first record of Chili. 00:08:37 Speaker 3: I don't know, we should we should look. 00:08:41 Speaker 4: I kind of wondered how Chili can't. 00:08:42 Speaker 5: Have after Genesis three, right. 00:08:44 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd imagine, Actually it might be after uh Genesis nine, because I believe it's man is still a uh. 00:09:00 Speaker 4: Vegetarian until after the flood? 00:09:03 Speaker 3: Oh really, isn't that correct? Because that's when I don't know. 00:09:08 Speaker 2: I believe that's when God separated man and animals and put the fear of man in the animals as supposed flood. I have to look that up and make sure. I kind of getting my chapters confused up here. 00:09:20 Speaker 1: But well, I'll tell you this what. There were some guys hunting some turkeys. 00:09:25 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Michael put the fear in the turkey. 00:09:28 Speaker 5: Put the fear, would put the. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: Fear in some turkeys. We didn't want to put the fear in with his hooter. 00:09:34 Speaker 5: I heard him a million times. 00:09:39 Speaker 3: Turkey hunting, editing. Turkey hunting is hard because it goes from real quiet to real loud back to real quiet real quick. 00:09:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, what allowed animals? 00:09:48 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:09:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, fellas, you'll did the camp out thing. 00:09:52 Speaker 3: We did. 00:09:53 Speaker 4: What'd you think Eric? 00:09:54 Speaker 3: It was awesome. It wasn't nice cool weather, you know, camping under the cold. Did he get? It was like mid forties one morning and that was a real cold morning. 00:10:04 Speaker 1: Me and KC camped in the tent one time when it was nineteen and then that. 00:10:11 Speaker 5: Morning was shid hunting. 00:10:12 Speaker 2: Then't do it, man, circle didn't found a single ship in three days. 00:10:16 Speaker 1: The only circle was the big large millions was walking circle, walking all those circles right the We found some cool country, though. 00:10:25 Speaker 2: You know, that's back when we appreciated the the scenery. 00:10:31 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I don't really appreciate it. 00:10:34 Speaker 1: See, we talked about some stuff we were talking about earlier, taking pictures of. 00:10:38 Speaker 5: Creeks and stuff. Yeah, oh look at that creek. That's cool. 00:10:43 Speaker 4: Eric, did you get did you get the shower while you were there? 00:10:46 Speaker 3: Uh? Did not? Man? I did one night. I washed my arms and feet. 00:10:51 Speaker 4: What was worse? 00:10:52 Speaker 5: You have Michael washed your feet? 00:10:54 Speaker 2: Come on now, man, you practicing believers, come on now, watch each other's what's worse? Eric? 00:11:03 Speaker 4: You not showering or being there when Michael's not showering? 00:11:08 Speaker 3: Set up? 00:11:08 Speaker 6: Don't answer the answer, I mean the obvious answer. But for whatever reason, maybe It's just I'm used to Michael, and I just didn't notice it at all this trip. 00:11:18 Speaker 4: But yeah, dude, smelly was wearing that. 00:11:22 Speaker 2: That was. 00:11:24 Speaker 3: It's because all the energy was going to the turkey. Listen. 00:11:34 Speaker 1: I will say this, Marino is legit when it comes to when it comes to like I have hunted. I've hunted eight days in Marino without really smelling, you know what I mean, Like, especially when you're talking about I'm wearing Marino up top so armpits namely right like I've been. I've been on a day hunt where I did not shower and had that happense. 00:11:58 Speaker 4: Marino underwear the same way. I love those things. I do too now hot weather. They're not the greatest because they don't wick. But like if you're talking about elk hunting or deer hunting, like, yeah, you wear. 00:12:09 Speaker 2: The same set the whole time. I don't feel like you're like a super smelly dude. 00:12:14 Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I don't think I am either. I didn't want to say it, but I don't think I'm a smelly guy. 00:12:18 Speaker 4: But I am. I'm like nasty, are you? Yes? 00:12:21 Speaker 3: Man? You must take pretty good care of yourself. 00:12:23 Speaker 4: I'd like at least once a day, maybe twice. But I sweat so much. You know, I've always been a sweaty guy. 00:12:31 Speaker 2: So one of the things I noticed is that with Marino, I have to kind of keep in mind what type of deodor and I'm wearing, because if I'm using something that's kind of a cakey type deodoran, it'll get all nasty in the armpitch you know what I'm talking about. 00:12:46 Speaker 4: You got to use like something that's not. 00:12:51 Speaker 5: Really I have never shaved an arm, a leg or a pitch man. 00:12:55 Speaker 4: You'd be surprised how good your arms looking when you shave them down. 00:12:58 Speaker 5: You look, yeah, show is that what Cam Haygnes does, doesn't he? 00:13:04 Speaker 4: I think he probably waxes it. 00:13:05 Speaker 5: Oh come on, now. 00:13:07 Speaker 1: Come on, that's what them guys be doing. 00:13:11 Speaker 5: Man, I didn't even know it. 00:13:13 Speaker 4: You ever taken the nair there. 00:13:15 Speaker 1: No, but I've seen it and wanted to do something with it, just like I can't bring myself to do it. 00:13:21 Speaker 2: I had some buddies that that put an air on their heads in high school, and they said it was a mistake. 00:13:28 Speaker 3: That's why I do it every day. 00:13:29 Speaker 4: You have seen my head looks like it's naire on there all the time pull. 00:13:32 Speaker 3: Your hat off. 00:13:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. 00:13:36 Speaker 5: Hey d w J. 00:13:41 Speaker 2: Let's go a couple of things before we get more to this turkey story. Greg Latham has killed a Texas turkey on the Element channel. 00:13:52 Speaker 3: Big bruh, go. 00:13:53 Speaker 4: Watch that if you hadn't. 00:13:54 Speaker 2: It does have a big old beard on it, pretty cool bird and just just a good old turkey on And then another thing, the Element has a video on meat Eater where I shoot a pig and turn him into sausage, and we have some of that sausage on the trip with us for this turkey. 00:14:14 Speaker 5: Young listen, I gotta say something here. 00:14:15 Speaker 4: Tell me about it. 00:14:17 Speaker 1: At what point does that pig go from a pig to a sausage Because you said you turned them into sausage. 00:14:22 Speaker 2: I think it would be whenever you grind it, madd you think, Okay, I think that's what makes be Cause we've talked. 00:14:29 Speaker 5: About this before. 00:14:30 Speaker 1: You if you watch it, Okay, if you ever have watched our Buck Truck series and you watched the Nebraska video, we double first video first Hunt out of the Gate. We double for that Buck Truck series, and we're like way back in the back country. Eric and Michael come toting bags and pizza up in there and we just have a good night. We're sitting on the stars. There's not much when beautiful weather. He just don't want to leave that moment. You know, at some point when you start breaking the deer down. You've talked about this before, and I've had to I've had to think about it. But the deer kind of doesn't. It feels for it fails to be a deer anymore. Right, Like it's it becomes meat. But at what point is that? Like for me, it's when I start breaking it down, but for game laws a lot of times it's not that way. 00:15:19 Speaker 2: I think it's when you part, when the head parts ways with the rest of the meat. Yeah, like with a deer especially, I still feel like I got the deer when I got the head. 00:15:28 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:15:28 Speaker 4: But when I go home and put. 00:15:30 Speaker 2: Like the head and the freezer or take a tax to dermister or whatever, and the meat somewhere else, then it's. 00:15:35 Speaker 4: Like it ain't the deer anymore. 00:15:37 Speaker 5: What about turkey? 00:15:38 Speaker 8: Uh? 00:15:40 Speaker 2: I mean, as soon as you start cutting him up, he feels like me, ain't nothing, ain't a turkey no more. But it is weird because when you take the breasts off a turkey, and you take the legs off a turkey. 00:15:51 Speaker 4: You're still left with what looks like a turkey lad there. 00:15:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, man, if I put some some hay inside of that thing and zipped him up, he'd probably be a pretty cool man. 00:15:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what the first Indian did to decoin in a turkey. 00:16:03 Speaker 4: He's like, you know what, I made that turkey look like it's alive, but other turkey come over here and it works. 00:16:09 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:16:10 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:16:32 Speaker 1: So anyway, just to just have thought, I had to interject. 00:16:35 Speaker 3: There, Michael, Yes, what's the what's the rule in Iowa? 00:16:39 Speaker 4: How do you have to keep a leg attached or what do you got to do? 00:16:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just gotta have proof of sex with the meat. So I just left a leg with a spur attached to the leg. 00:16:49 Speaker 2: There's a spur count, So there's no such thing as a spur hen, right, I don't think. So there's a beard a hens, and that's why the beard doesn't really count as proof sex. 00:17:00 Speaker 5: Huh, well it does in the spring, right. 00:17:03 Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't count prove of sex, but it just count. I mean, you can shoot bearded hens. 00:17:07 Speaker 1: But that's because that's because you can't shoot hens. So technically it's proof that. 00:17:18 Speaker 5: Here we go. 00:17:19 Speaker 3: But it's not proof of sex. 00:17:20 Speaker 5: No, but it is. 00:17:21 Speaker 4: It's proof that you're qualifying your license. However, again, this is not the element legalist. Believe me, Greg and I were talking about the wording of things will to go. You can't trust nobody. The best bet is to just get it to the house. 00:17:38 Speaker 3: And y'all just got to pass it to see what's in it. 00:17:41 Speaker 4: Man, it's it. 00:17:43 Speaker 2: Ever, So, Michael Casey, you had a short season or sharp season as they stay in Iowa. 00:17:52 Speaker 3: Dude, I was listening to video one of my interviews literally a couple of minutes ago, and I said that, and I was sitting there like, oh no, I can't let Casey hear this. That's you man. 00:18:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, what was your essential tactic going into this thing? Going to a news state that you've you've never been to before, right? 00:18:14 Speaker 3: Uh? 00:18:15 Speaker 4: No, you never turn your on it. 00:18:16 Speaker 2: For sure, And you have kind of a short season to work with early and also you decided you're gonna hunt public land, so like, how do you make all that stuff fit together? 00:18:28 Speaker 3: Uh? Basically, my thought going into the entire thing was just cover as much ground, and then when you find a bird that either you know is on public or wants to do the thing, just not be afraid to mess the whole. Like, just go be aggressive because you can find another bird. It's at the end of the day, it's a turkey. They're gonna gobble in the morning, they're gonna gobble in the evening. You're gonna have another chance. So just being aggressive when you do get the chance, and just covering as much ground as you can until you find a pocket that's away from people. Pretty much. 00:18:59 Speaker 4: So you have made the statement in the past. 00:19:03 Speaker 2: The easterns of the turkey subspecies being Eastern Osceola, Miriams, and Rio grand that most people know of. There's also ghouls and there's oscillated but we're not talking about them. But of the four major subspecies of turkeys, you stated that Easterns are the best. 00:19:21 Speaker 4: Do you still stand by that statement? Yes or no? 00:19:25 Speaker 2: Uh? 00:19:27 Speaker 3: Yes, turkey wise, turkey wise. I think Mariams live in the coolest places, so they could have a fun a chance at the title, you know. 00:19:37 Speaker 2: So can you back that statement up with your experiences recently and throughout your life? 00:19:44 Speaker 4: Tell us why Easterns are the best. 00:19:46 Speaker 3: Oh, I think Easterns are the best just because I grew up hunting them, so I think there's a little bit of nostalgia there. But they're the biggest bird, and when they get to goblin, it's like a it's a different animal. The first time we stepped out of the truck and heard a goblin, it was like, oh boy, we are for sure in Eastern country because we've been hunting rios and we hunted Osceola's and there's for sure a difference when you start hearing the birds gobble, and. 00:20:12 Speaker 2: So it's all about the gobble you're saying, that's what makes Easterns the best. 00:20:15 Speaker 3: I think what makes Easterns the best is how big they are. Just the biggest bird. 00:20:19 Speaker 5: So how do they sound different than a rio? 00:20:21 Speaker 3: It's just got like more taper like basin almost. 00:20:26 Speaker 4: Do you think it's because they just have a bigger echo chamber. 00:20:29 Speaker 5: I think so, yeah, gullet or whatever. 00:20:30 Speaker 1: I think so, so just a like a bigger the call has a bigger body to it. 00:20:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 00:20:38 Speaker 4: Did you hear birds gobble morning and evening? 00:20:42 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we heard a lot more in the mornings, but they were also they were doing the thing in the evening. It just kind of was more birds specific in the evening. Yeah. 00:20:52 Speaker 4: So you and I. 00:20:54 Speaker 2: Hunted Ostiola's together, and you've started to hunted a lot in your life, even though you're like, was a lot shorter than mine. At this point in time, you probably turk in it way more than I have. And I'm starting to figure some things out. We're bouncing some stuff off of one another, and you or I made the statement that, and I don't want to offend any turkey hunters, all right, but if you want wanted to boil it down to simplicity, turkey hunting is getting within two hundred yards of a gobbler without him knowing you're there and calling to it. 00:21:26 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:21:26 Speaker 4: Do you feel like that's how it works? 00:21:29 Speaker 3: Yeah? I do for sure. Well that, I mean, that was pretty much our entire plan all week was just get to two hundred and then trust the call and just trust that he's gonna come on a rope eventually. 00:21:40 Speaker 4: Eric, Yep, do you trust the call? 00:21:42 Speaker 3: I do? 00:21:43 Speaker 4: Yeah. Did you call to Michael call. 00:21:45 Speaker 3: Down kid me, let Michael do it? 00:21:46 Speaker 4: Did you? 00:21:48 Speaker 3: I did the box call a few times? Yeah, Yeah, when it's time to get the box out. It's aired Like I tried to do the box call, it just doesn't it doesn't sound the same. Yeah. I do think there's a thing with over calling though, for sure. Yeah, oh yeah. 00:22:01 Speaker 2: Do you think that that's something that turkey hunters suffer from or do you just seen it situationally? 00:22:07 Speaker 6: I think newer turkey hunters probably do it, Yeah, quite a bit. Gotcha, dude. 00:22:12 Speaker 3: The first time you let a yelp go and there's a gobble right on the back side of it, You're like, oh, I want that all the time, Like, I just want to keep going. But we me and Eric were kind of talking the entire trip, and I heard Waddell one time say do you want to be a turkey hunter? Do you want to be a turkey caller? And that's pretty much was just in my brain the entire time, Like I love turkey calling, but I want to shoot a turkey. I see it. I just I'm not gonna sit there and call just because I like it. 00:22:42 Speaker 2: I kind of agree with what he's saying there, I understand it. But if that is the case, I think I could kill more turkeys bushwhacking than I could calling and sitting up for sure. 00:22:51 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 00:22:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so really, Yeah, absolutely, I think I could just slip around and shoot turkeys at sixty yards with shotguns. 00:23:00 Speaker 4: And just killed a bunch of turkeys. 00:23:01 Speaker 5: Man, I feel like it would be hard to get within sixty. 00:23:06 Speaker 3: I think the only way I killed them. I think it just depends on how much vegetation's around, which is something we ran into. It's like when we were hunting Texas, it kind of got our like how close we could get to a bird was very different than in Iowa because there were there was not a leaf on the tree in Iowa, so it was just wide open timber. 00:23:28 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:23:29 Speaker 1: I feel like if you didn't get if you give me a rifle, I mean, yeah, bushwacken, you know. But I don't know if I I feel like getting in a shotgun range might be kind of tough. 00:23:38 Speaker 5: It depended, like myself on the vegetation. 00:23:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, could you kill that bird that you came around the corner thirty five yards on in Texas the other day? 00:23:47 Speaker 3: I can't remember which one that. 00:23:48 Speaker 4: Was as the one that we kind of messed up right before you killed? 00:23:53 Speaker 5: Could I have killed them? Yeah? 00:23:55 Speaker 3: Maybe? 00:23:56 Speaker 1: He was coming through brush. I just could see a silhouette. Oh but I mean we weren't walking around. Yeah, we were calling him to us. 00:24:06 Speaker 2: Michael, yep, did y'all locate birds the first night you got there? Uh? 00:24:11 Speaker 3: We did not. We got there. We tried, that was the plan, but we decided to go make sure camp was already. There's a thing when you're going across state states and just like you got a camp where it's like, well I picked a campground out on the map and turns out that one's closed. So we had to make a new plan get to a different campground. And I was like at that point, I was like, we got to make sure we have a place to stay. 00:24:38 Speaker 4: All talked at every case as you. 00:24:39 Speaker 2: Could on the way to man Oh my god, sixteen Well I got the minis one time. 00:24:46 Speaker 3: Oh yeaheah, the minis. That's nice. 00:24:49 Speaker 1: That's many, and why there's many of them in that box, that's right, man, that's right. 00:24:57 Speaker 4: So from there, just tell us to do man. 00:25:01 Speaker 3: So we got to camp the first night and it's a state park, but so there's but it's not a very big one. So it's just surrounded by a bunch of private and we're setting the palomino up and it's just like, go, there's just a bird in the river bottom, just absolutely losing his mind. So we're like me and Eric are freaking out trying to get this palomino set up and ready to sleep in tonight while we still got a little bit of light and burn over to Public. And by the time we got over to Public, it was just it was too late. Birds weren't gobbling anymore, and so that pretty much put us behind the eight ball for the opening morning. 00:25:40 Speaker 1: It was it was it too far or is it farther than you thought to get there? 00:25:45 Speaker 5: How come you were late? 00:25:47 Speaker 3: It just pulling the palamino. I think we had to go a little slower. 00:25:50 Speaker 5: Than in the morning once you went hunting. 00:25:54 Speaker 3: Oh, in the morning, we were we were pretty on time in the morning. It was just we did go where birds were so sorry. 00:26:01 Speaker 1: I thought you were saying when you slept in you went the next morning not in too late. So you actually all went to the public and they were roosted and it was too late. 00:26:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy. We tried to go find some birds on the roost, but it was like it was pretty much dark. Yeah, so they weren't gobbling anymore. 00:26:18 Speaker 4: You saw from the hunting public. 00:26:20 Speaker 3: No, that was just just a random guy. But that was a kind of a run, just running joke with. 00:26:29 Speaker 4: Ye dogs. 00:26:33 Speaker 3: Theater. 00:26:35 Speaker 4: So the first morning you couldn't find birds. 00:26:37 Speaker 3: The first morning we went, we went to a and that Tyler had sent me that you guys find birds pin. Well, I didn't know that was no, no, no, no. Tyler sent me a pin a couple of months ago. And we went there right off the back because it was like, there's a really good bowl and it leads down into some pretty nasty bottoms, stuff that Turkey's probably hang out in. And so we went over there. Truck in the parking lot. So it's like, oh, boy. 00:27:07 Speaker 1: Kind on which where was the truck was in the parking lot? Yeah, well, I fact, there wasn't a. 00:27:15 Speaker 3: Part of parking lot. He parked where we were parking when we right across from the gotcha gotcha? Yeah yeah. So we immediately realized there's gonna be some pressure around. It's not just gonna be a walk in the park. And so we pretty much just went and found a parking lot without a bird in it or without a person in it, and immediately we stepped out of the car and it was. 00:27:37 Speaker 5: Like cock. 00:27:39 Speaker 3: And those are cruise and after you kind of like whittle down which ones are on public and which ones are on private. It left us with like, I think, two birds. So we circle on a ridge and he just goes quiet on us, and I think he saw you. There's a chance. There's definitely a chance, but two birdstone once. I think he kind of because the next you know, spoiler a little bit. But we had a little encounter, a little bit of an encounter with him the next morning, so I kind of think he just worked down the ridge. 00:28:16 Speaker 1: How do you know he had a routine for sure, because because Easterns are easy, they're patterns. 00:28:20 Speaker 3: You don't know there was a bird roosting in the state spot. 00:28:27 Speaker 2: Parker McDonald Okay, I love Parker to death, but he'll talk about how he's been after saying bird for three weeks and like there's more than one turkey in them woods. 00:28:37 Speaker 4: I don't know, dude, but maybe there's a thing that don't. 00:28:40 Speaker 1: It's like a dude, when you're a crazy good turkey hunter like he is, you just know their gobble. 00:28:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I definitely didn't know this bird's gobble thing do they make a little different. 00:28:51 Speaker 5: I think overall they they signed a little more close to. 00:28:53 Speaker 2: The killed in New Mexico last year, he kind of had like a week ending to his gobble. 00:28:59 Speaker 1: You have a little whistle, yeah, the end of it, but you had to be pretty close to hear it. 00:29:03 Speaker 3: I feel like, I don't even know where I was, but you. 00:29:06 Speaker 1: Were talking about how you had potentially spooked that bird walking in the morning. 00:29:11 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think what happened was he worked down the ridge a little further than I would I anticipated, and there were other birds just losing their minds. So we pretty much just chase gobbles. And when you start chasing gobbles, especially on public, I feel like probably small private too, but you usually just end up behind behind the eight ball kind of all day. You're just like chasing birds and they'll move off into private and you can't really get in front of them, and it's just it's never a really good recipe, just kind of chasing gobbles. 00:29:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, but are you billiards guy? You sit behind it, and I feel like, if you're gonna say it twice, you'd explain what you mean. 00:30:00 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if this is even the way to used the same. But I'm just saying we were kind of just behind the game all morning. 00:30:07 Speaker 2: So I would think that behind the eight ball means that you need to sink these six of stripes and your cueball has an eight ball between you and the six stripes. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: Sometimes you just you just think at a much higher level, is the correct behind. 00:30:25 Speaker 2: The eight ball means you have a disadvantage of where you would be otherwise. 00:30:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, on the billiard's table. 00:30:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what he said. Yeah, So we pretty much just chased gobbles and then it got to the time of the day where the wind got too high, and man, at that point, it's kind of just depressing when your turkey hunt. Like we're in Iowa just the turkey hunt, so we're gonna be turkey hunting, but it's just checking every single drainage every bowl and just trying to strike a bird up. And I don't think pretty much every day. They stopped talking at like ten to two. 00:30:58 Speaker 5: And so y'all are never able to strike When. 00:31:00 Speaker 3: We striked one at like ten thirty one time. 00:31:03 Speaker 1: And but other than that, between then and roost, y'all didn't strike your wards. 00:31:07 Speaker 3: No, No, that. 00:31:08 Speaker 1: Gives me confidence in my game playing this week well of well working, but yeah, like not being out chasing. 00:31:17 Speaker 3: What we found was at like the afternoon time, you need to just be driving roads, checking fields because they're out showing off. 00:31:25 Speaker 6: We would see them on the site like and low spots like you're coming down a hill. We'd see them just right off the road at the like the bottom of a hill, and they would always look like dazed and like they had just woke up. 00:31:38 Speaker 3: It was a like, we're hunting public land, so you're thinking, hey, I just need to outwork everybody else. But when you drive the roads like two in front Camp and you see a gop just five yards off the road, like probably five times, it's like, oh my goodness, man, we're doing The lines. 00:31:58 Speaker 4: Just work different than deer. They're like, why is it because deer? 00:32:01 Speaker 3: You just it's just I think they're just pushing hens down into a little hole, and that's where the holes are where they can get away from turkey. 00:32:10 Speaker 1: So the roads, I feel like when you talk about public land turkey hunting, I grew up doing a lot of public land duck hunting, and I. 00:32:17 Speaker 5: Feel like it's similar. 00:32:18 Speaker 1: You don't really hunt ducks in the afternoons a lot of times, like yeah, as far as traditionally speaking goes, but you would hunt them in the morning, so you go in and on public. 00:32:31 Speaker 5: The idea is not necessarily to. 00:32:33 Speaker 1: Work harder than other people, even though you're gonna end up working pretty hard a lot of times. 00:32:37 Speaker 5: But it's to get up earlier, you know what I mean. And that's where like, well. 00:32:41 Speaker 1: If the birds are gonna be five yards off the road, that's that's all good and well, But if there's a duke park there that morning, then you can't go in there, or you might could and just hope you win a different direction, But you know what I mean. So I think it's more about like it's kind of saving your energy, making sure that like your afternoons don't just burn you out right and your evenings like maybe make. 00:33:07 Speaker 3: Some food before you go out. 00:33:09 Speaker 1: To get after the you know, hood alcohol and trying to make them gobble on the roost and then as soon as you get down rusts them eat and go to bed and get ready to get up early. 00:33:18 Speaker 5: And that's kind of where you put in the word probably. 00:33:20 Speaker 3: You know, we pretty much got to the point now towards the end of the trip, it changes a little bit because it's like we got to make something happen. But the beginning of the trip, it was kind of like we're gonna hunt really hard until like two or three, and then at two or three we're gonna go back to the Palamino and just kind of chill until like five or six and then go try to find birds. 00:33:42 Speaker 4: What changed? Was it just that you got through like two days of a four. 00:33:45 Speaker 3: Day hunt and you're like, oh, man, gotta make something out. 00:33:48 Speaker 4: You gotta do the thing. 00:33:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just got to make something happen to that point. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: So take get us to like the kill morning. 00:33:56 Speaker 2: Because Michael, for everyone listening it is a great dude, and he doesn't communicate very good. 00:34:07 Speaker 3: So. 00:34:10 Speaker 4: On aunt, he's not going to answer you has good news. 00:34:13 Speaker 1: I was get thankful you killed the bird because you're getting railed on far. 00:34:17 Speaker 2: No, he's right, because you guys, buy texted in that night and said how you feeling, and this is crickets. 00:34:24 Speaker 4: He's just laying in mad mind just stared. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: I was listen. I almost texted you that night and were just like it was almost like, uh, you asked how I was feeling. I was like, well, It just depends on how you feel about a bird doing the same thing twice, so that I mean. 00:34:47 Speaker 4: The first three for the answer. 00:34:49 Speaker 3: The first three days were pretty much have a bird roosted, feel like we're in a really good situation, and then some circumstance happens, like bird goes on to private or ted came in to shot. One morning. We made a big lavert plan to get behind this bird, be in between him and the private which is the way we thought he was gonna work, and some dude just came in off the road did the easy thing shot the bird. So it's like, well sounds easy. I feel like we're just overthinking this. 00:35:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what's their goal? 00:35:24 Speaker 3: Actually, So the last evening we were in Iowa, we had just gone and done a decoy set up on a big field midday just to try to attract a bird. And it got to the point where me and Eric were both just sitting there like, man, this is dumb. What are we doing up here? This is this is just a waste of time. So it was probably like five thirty six o'clock something like that, and we walked the three quarters a mile walk back to the truck and got in the truck went and drove and we get to this like big opening, big bottom area area in between where all the temper is and we're driving and a hen is going over the hill at like one hundred yards and we're like, that's weird. Me and Eric are just kind of sitting there with the binos up watching her, and just for fun, I look out to the right and there's a bird at like two hundred and fifty yards, just full strut. Just she's going to him, clear as day. She's going to him. There's like two or three more hens down there with him, and he's just just acting like the big dog, just two hundred yards off the road on public just showing off. And so, long story short, this is the last morning or the last evening we're in Iowa, and I tell Eric we're gonna go run this turkey down, which, if anybody knows anything about turkey, is not usually a very good idea. But we had a lot of terrain to work with, so and he was full struggle in the other direction when we saw him. So I was like, right now, we can go and cut like one hundred and fifty yards off of it, and we like almost run down in there. Once we get over the hill and he's nowhere to be found, we're like just easing around, and finally we pick him up back another three hundred yards, just following his head away. So at that point it's like we're just gonna punt on the evening. We're not gonna get to him, and we're just gonna kind of watch him. We can see if he goes five hundred yards to the east, we can see him. He goes five hundred yards the west, we can see him. So we feel pretty good about the next morning just getting a good setup on him. And we're kind of sitting there watching him, and he just like turns and is in full strut and just runs across the field. And I look at the like at a point of a swamp that's down there at the bottom, and there's another turkey with like ten hens and he's just full strut. So they just, like the turkeys come together and have a standoff, and then it gets so late that like all the birds just kind of scattered in the area. 00:38:32 Speaker 2: Know when you say standoff, you mean like that you stuck their heads up in there and did the like back and hole. 00:38:36 Speaker 3: They were just full strut at like ten yards, like just circling around each other, and we pretty much we didn't see where they roosted. But we went and I don't remember what we did. We went and tried to find another bird to hunt or something. 00:38:50 Speaker 6: Before this evening, we had saw a giant bird, same spot, strutting under. 00:38:56 Speaker 3: This tree out there, like like day before. Now that was the same. It was like ten am that morning. I forgot about that. 00:39:03 Speaker 6: So there the gobs were like hanging out in this one area during the day pretty much, and the hens would just run down the hills towards it. 00:39:12 Speaker 3: Dude, we watched so many hens just file out to this one bird sitting under a cedar tree. It was ridiculous. I've always heard that that's what goes on in nature, but I've never been able to sit there and watch it happen. But like, he was out there full struck for probably fifteen minutes, and there were five hens on its way on their way to him. We so hmm. We went and tried to check some other spots and find other birds, just to have options, and came back when it was dark enough for him to be roosted in the tree and out hoot, and it's like there's four or five gobs along the tree line. There's like there's birds everywhere pretty much. So we plan on the next morning. It's not a very bad like we walk a two track all the way in. It's not a very bad walk, but it's kind of far. So we planned on waking up real early, getting in in the dark, and going and setting up like pretty much under the cedar tree. We saw him at We I don't want to say we did the deer hunting thing, but we kind of did the deer hunting thing on the turkey and just go and get in the middle of as many deer as you can find pretty much. 00:40:22 Speaker 1: So you saw you saw him that night before, go past the cedar tree. 00:40:26 Speaker 3: We saw him hang out under a cedar tree all day pretty much. Every time we'd go and check in check back in on him, he was by that cedar tree like within one hundred yards, i'd say, m So we felt pretty confident in just going and setting up in the morning under that cedar tree. It was our last day. I knew it was gonna be windy. How far were you from when you were seeing him do this? 00:40:48 Speaker 4: How far were we? 00:40:49 Speaker 3: Yeah? So we were quiet. It was like a thousand yards. Yeah, it was probably a thousand years. 00:40:52 Speaker 5: Wow, were you Did you mark the cedar on on x uh? 00:40:56 Speaker 8: Huh? 00:40:57 Speaker 3: And did you? Did? 00:40:58 Speaker 5: It take you some time to figure out what was all? 00:41:01 Speaker 3: It was one of the hardest map marks I've ever done in my life, because it's just there's just seedars kind of splotchy everywhere. But I pretty much just worked like I did the directional I don't know what it's called, the directional the double click, yeah, exactly, and pretty much made a mark at like the tree line where I thought straight ahead was, and then just worked down and counted cedars and found I think I was a cedar tree off but that was only like five yards, so got a pretty good idea of where it was, and just made a big loop the next morning to set up with a decoy like within the vicinity of that cedar tree, because we knew it was gonna be windy and we knew eventually there's gonna be a tom that works his way out into this field, and seized the decoy from however far and then close to the distance just because we saw I think we saw. We ended up seeing three toms that night before, so we knew there were gonna be birds just circulating. We saw a bunch of hens. So our plan the next morning was just to go and sit in and do the boring thing, not cover any ground, and just let the Dave Smith work. 00:42:18 Speaker 4: How'd you know there weren't gonna be a dude right there? 00:42:20 Speaker 3: Because all week we hadn't We had a pocket where there would be hunters all around us with pocket I'm telling you billions, man, maybe, but we had a pocket where we felt there was one car. We had probably six parking lots. There was one car there one morning in all of those parking lots. Other than that, we had nobody in our little little bubble there. 00:42:44 Speaker 5: How far did you have to walk in? 00:42:47 Speaker 1: I think it was six tenths or something like that. Is that further than you think most guys were walking in? 00:42:52 Speaker 6: So I have a theory that I told Michael this, that guys were going to parking lots and calling, and when you do that, you get on like the birds are near the parking lot, so you're getting on birds. I bet that's what a lot of hunters are doing, is they get to these parking lots, they call they hear gobbles and they just go after those birds and that's their hunt. Where we just found a spot where people aren't parking and calling to Yeah, it's just a little bit off the road. 00:43:18 Speaker 4: I like what you're saying. 00:43:19 Speaker 2: So instead of taking the easy bird, that probably figured out to go the other direction already, ince life. Yeah, yep, you like just bushwhack a long ways back in and then call from there. 00:43:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you're in. 00:43:32 Speaker 2: A different place than they're used to be hearing humans. Or maybe they don't even think that deeply about it, but for some reason, it's it's different because you're not like at the entrance. 00:43:40 Speaker 3: We saw that on just parking in random places on the road, Like if you're not parked from the parking lot, they'll shot gobble a lot easier. 00:43:50 Speaker 2: Huh. 00:43:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, have you ever hunted with somebody who called from the truck a bunch? 00:43:54 Speaker 3: I did? 00:43:55 Speaker 6: I mean bostic, but it actually worked for Yeah. 00:44:03 Speaker 3: I also did call from the truck one time this week. It was because there was a turkey roosted at like twenty five yards eye level with us. 00:44:11 Speaker 6: I mean they would gobble too. They're all right there, son, It's fun to make them do it. So then so then you go in there and find your seater in the morning, right, yep. 00:44:21 Speaker 3: So we go in there and it I mean it was dark. I could barely see the hind when we set her out. But and originally we sat up under that seater, but that's right, we did. But we for some reason it wasn't gonna work for us, I don't remember what it was. Eric didn't like it for filming or something, and oh, it was because we wouldn't have much pre roll from the direction. We thought. 00:44:45 Speaker 6: No, I thought we wouldn't be able to if they were coming down the lane, we wouldn't be able to see them potentially. 00:44:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we made an adjustment back into the tree line, which honestly was the better seedar to be in. Either way. You we were gonna have the sun behind us. I mean, it is pretty pretty good. And we're like, I think you were sat up like normal, but I was pretty much on my back underneath this cedar tree, just trying to get as low and as small as as possible. And we're sitting there kind of half asleep, and there's just a uh, there's probably three or four birds at like five hundred yards goblin and then a bird like gobbles. It sounded like it was on our head and I heard it out in front of us, and I asked Eric, but Eric was monitoring audio. I know, you guys probably don't believe that Eric was monitoring. 00:45:41 Speaker 5: Him. 00:45:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure he was. So he couldn't figure out where it came from. And so I did the line distance on on X to the closest clump of trees right in front of us, and it was like three hundred and fifty yards, and I was sitting there. I was like, this doesn't make any sense, Like there's no way that that bird was at three hundred and fifty yards with twenty mile an hour winds and we're just sitting there. I think I do like a one yelp, just cadence and then just shut up and never hear that close bird again. But there's bird's gobblin all around us. So we feel pretty good. And I mean it was six forty five. I should probably six forty five, like it felt pretty right out and we just hear a bird fly down, and I don't know a second after I heard that, Eric just goes, there's a bird running at us. It's like there's a bird running at in the choir right now, and I was like, is it, like, asked if it's a tom and Eric couldn't tell because he's trying to get the camera on it and everything. And about that time I get it. I see the bird and I just see a rope on the front of the bird, and I'm like, I say, like, what did I say? Because I don't know? I confused. 00:46:58 Speaker 8: Ye. 00:46:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, did you say as a jay? Like I couldn't hear what he said. He thought I said it was a jake. I think. I said, I'm gonna let him come closer or something and take him and this is gonna be cake, he said. He said a first take, Oh, he's doing the shaking bab He said it's a jake and I said, no, I'm I'm shooting him. And I mean the bird takes probably another ten yards and steps into my gap. And in that moment, I'm sitting there like I should probably let this bird do the thing, and then another voice in my head said just no, just shoot him. So if he's on him, and I mean put it on his head and blasted him. He was very close. That's it. He was probably fifteen yards, oh baby. 00:47:50 Speaker 5: So, how how far was he when you hit the ground? 00:47:52 Speaker 3: Do you think? Probably thirty forty? I bet he was close, like I was gonna say fifty. 00:47:57 Speaker 5: So when you saw him running, he was. 00:47:59 Speaker 3: Thirty Yeah, probably between thirty and forty. 00:48:02 Speaker 5: And then he slowed down and walked in. 00:48:04 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:48:04 Speaker 6: Once he got closer, he was kind of bobbing his head at the decoy, you know. 00:48:10 Speaker 1: So do you think that he shut up because he saw the decoy. 00:48:14 Speaker 3: I think he either shut up because he heard the decoy or saw the decoy or heard me call. And there's so much competition in the area where he's just like, I'm not gonna gobble. I know I have a hen right there, yeah, and I'm just gonna b line for her. Right when I hit the ground, I. 00:48:27 Speaker 4: Wondered this was a big, mature tom, right, like big bird? 00:48:32 Speaker 3: Yeah? How long was his first big bird? Probably an inch? 00:48:36 Speaker 4: Okay, so like not like super old, but a mature tom. 00:48:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:48:41 Speaker 4: I kind of always wonder if they aren't there's two things. 00:48:44 Speaker 2: Maybe they're getting beat up on and so they're not very talkative in the mornings, and then two it almost seems like there's a potential case that a big old Tom doesn't. 00:48:57 Speaker 4: Gobble as much off the roost. 00:48:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, like an older bar doesn't. Do you think that's the case. I think there's a chance, for sure, I don't. I haven't had as much experience with really old tom's as I probably should. 00:49:10 Speaker 2: Dude, I'm I probably don't even need to worry about this kind of stuff because I'm shooting probably the first time turkey I get a chance any where. 00:49:17 Speaker 4: We got Sometimes I might pass a jake or something. 00:49:21 Speaker 2: You know, but I shot a Jake arty this year, you know, Like I'm excited as you turkeys, So it doesn't really matter. But I find like the differences in animals interesting, even if I'm not gonna use them to my advantage. 00:49:33 Speaker 4: Oh you know what I mean. 00:49:34 Speaker 2: So I think it's neat that y'all were set up on a bird that was doing different stuff than what all the other ones. 00:49:41 Speaker 4: Were doing, yep, and you killed him. 00:49:43 Speaker 2: It almost makes me wonder if you can figure out where I not talkative bird is if he's real killable because nobody else is gonna mess with him, and so he's not used to getting molested in the mornings like the turkeys that are just gobbling their heads off. 00:49:58 Speaker 3: I definitely think that could be the case. I kind of feel like we were probably messing up a lot more birds than we thought, and they were just coming in silent. 00:50:07 Speaker 4: I think that's alter young. 00:50:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know much about it, but I think that you're spooking a bunch of. 00:50:12 Speaker 4: Birds that you don't realize are there. 00:50:14 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:50:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that makes me sad, especially I think about hunting places that don't have as many turkeys. 00:50:23 Speaker 4: Man, you can't mess. 00:50:24 Speaker 1: It up, I know, dude, like where we might end up at some point here this season soon. 00:50:31 Speaker 4: That's right, you know, yeah, that's uh, that's a weird deal. 00:50:36 Speaker 5: Man. 00:50:36 Speaker 3: We're in some of my favorite country right now. 00:50:38 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:50:39 Speaker 3: I love the dust Ball two point h turkey. 00:50:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's your uh, that's your first killing the Element channel. 00:50:49 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. Let's go first out of state animal. Well, no, I killed a East Or Texas uh antler list you know, yeah, yeah, that's right. 00:51:00 Speaker 5: What about that pig? 00:51:01 Speaker 3: Oh I forgot about the pig? 00:51:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, man, yeah, man takes the stuff. 00:51:07 Speaker 1: So holden, You're you're getting close to the you're chasing forty nine right now? 00:51:11 Speaker 4: Rightah? 00:51:12 Speaker 3: Do we're getting close seven to go. That's what we've got. Ohio and Iowa down ohioo Ohio. 00:51:18 Speaker 5: It's all one nag. 00:51:20 Speaker 3: Dude, I can't believe it. 00:51:21 Speaker 4: Michael's been to Texas his theme for two years and hasn't found a turkey to hunt. 00:51:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I found a turkey. 00:51:26 Speaker 1: See y'all alway will be doing this thing where y'all round up on these boys. 00:51:29 Speaker 3: They hadn't been here as long as we think. Yeah, well, August twenty two, twenty two, it's getting closer. It's getting closer. 00:51:39 Speaker 2: Well, you're working diligently on that video, correct, somebody that's trying to get it out? 00:51:46 Speaker 4: Are you? 00:51:46 Speaker 3: You're doing it? Yep? 00:51:47 Speaker 4: Even though Eric filmed, it's your hunts. You want to just Yeah, for sure, I'm not going to standpoint. 00:51:51 Speaker 3: I'm not going to make Eric watch me. 00:51:53 Speaker 1: It's it's his first state outside of his home state to go towards his forty nine. 00:51:58 Speaker 3: Dude. 00:51:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's this guy to make it seven to go. 00:52:03 Speaker 3: What's what's gonna be the hardest state? Florida? You think? Yeah, for sure. 00:52:07 Speaker 5: If you get on the right place in Florida, I feel like it's Kate. 00:52:11 Speaker 3: Just getting to the right place. 00:52:12 Speaker 4: Ostiola makes it harder. But if you're just like, I'm gonna kill a turkey in. 00:52:15 Speaker 3: Florida, Oh yeah, that's that's a good point. 00:52:17 Speaker 2: Because you're not trying to get the slam do. 00:52:20 Speaker 3: That too, you Okay? 00:52:22 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, what's the hardest states? 00:52:28 Speaker 3: Like Utah, Utah, the West? It's gonna be a Western state wherever it is. California because they don't allow him. California can't even take a shotgun in there, so yeah, you just get one. 00:52:38 Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to shoot him with the dark gun. 00:52:41 Speaker 2: Arizona, well, Arizona, actually maybe not, but it's catching release in California, California, Utah, and Nevada because there's. 00:52:50 Speaker 4: Just not as much turkey country. 00:52:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it makes it difficult. 00:52:56 Speaker 4: But one could say just the state that's furthest away. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: North Dakota. No doubt North Dakota would be sick, you know, yeah she would. 00:53:06 Speaker 5: Is there a bunch of turkeys up there? 00:53:07 Speaker 1: I saw a bunch. Depends on where you're at, I guess. Yeah, gotta have some water and trees. Yeah that's cool, man, I guess like all the states east of the Mississippi have probably quite a few turkeys. 00:53:18 Speaker 3: Huh they are around, Yeah for sure. 00:53:21 Speaker 1: Man, Ohio is east of Mississippi, right, uh huh yeah, the Mississippi goes up into Minnesota. 00:53:26 Speaker 8: Right. 00:53:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is correct, Manny. 00:53:31 Speaker 4: I'm excited to do a little more Taker in this week. Yeah, now that Michael knows. 00:53:34 Speaker 1: It very about what happened after he shot the bird, the dude lost his mind. 00:53:39 Speaker 3: It was awesome. 00:53:41 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that, dude, dud, did you was he doing? 00:53:45 Speaker 8: Uh? 00:53:46 Speaker 6: He does this weird like flex thing. He kind of looks like an ape when he does it, you know what I mean, a very skin man. He does his flex thing and he's like, come on, come on, there's. 00:54:02 Speaker 5: A while, ell. 00:54:02 Speaker 3: I don't know what's coming, dude. He's got He's got the next big. 00:54:05 Speaker 5: Turkey hunter right here on his head. 00:54:10 Speaker 6: There's a go Pro clip of he celebrates and he runs back to the go bro and just yells in the go bro. 00:54:16 Speaker 3: What are you saying? Like, like, come on, we might have to make that a real this week. 00:54:22 Speaker 4: When do you expect this video to come out? Michael? 00:54:25 Speaker 3: Next week? 00:54:26 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:54:26 Speaker 5: Man? 00:54:27 Speaker 4: Aang so like in the twenties of April, Yeah, before my videos yea. 00:54:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's gonna be out first, Is it for sure? 00:54:33 Speaker 5: You've been working on it? 00:54:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, look at you. Let's go, dude, hag dude, I'm so proud of Hey. 00:54:37 Speaker 2: If you're not subscribed to the Yellowing channel, you need to be because that's where. 00:54:41 Speaker 4: Every piece of Turkey on hunting content in the world is right now. 00:54:44 Speaker 5: It's also if you want. 00:54:48 Speaker 1: We're trying to get as many deer hunting videos on that channel as possible. 00:54:51 Speaker 4: That's right. 00:54:51 Speaker 1: We got we got some stuff that we filmed last year, and you guys are probably privy to this, but just kind of feel in. 00:55:00 Speaker 3: We also have videos that go out. 00:55:02 Speaker 1: On the Media YouTube channel and it can be hard to decipher and understand where everybody wants our videos to land at times, and we want, we want all you guys that have been with us for years and years to get to make sure you get to see some of the deer hunting stuff we've done, the stuff that happened last year that hasn't released yet. 00:55:22 Speaker 3: There's some awesome stuff. 00:55:24 Speaker 1: And I want to say this too real quick before we get out of here. There's me and Casey been talking a little bit and we have to there. Yeah, we have to there's this there's this thing that's been around basically since outdoor TV started, and I think that I want to I got a couple of things to kind of throw out here and just let you kind of think about it as a listener. So when you go deer hunting and you chase after a big old deer, or you get a shot at a big old deer, it surprised you and you didn't know it was in the area, or whatever it might be, that deer hunt is pretty special to you, right, It's probably not quite as specially to everybody else, but you want to share that story and you want people to think that's cool, and some people will and some people won't. So when we put out videos we want to make, we want these, we want to edit these videos so that when you watch them, you think that was cool, that was like a special deal. Because deer are and I hate to steal the show from Turkey here, but deer very unique. They're very uh separate from one another. They look at that's why. 00:56:29 Speaker 2: People are making up subspecies of turkey so that they can act. 00:56:34 Speaker 5: So when they're not and Mark Kenyon getting close. 00:56:38 Speaker 1: Here, it's like a pangae of Turkey until I see a Miriams that actually as the white Man. I don't. You might see one this week, Uh no, I don't think so, we'll see. But anyway, there there's white tails. All look a lot different from from each other, or at times they can, right, they have these these these mainly in the antlers, right, but these are special, a special creature. And I think a lot of people listen to this podcast right now would agree, because I know you guys are crazy about deer hunting. 00:57:11 Speaker 3: Above pretty much everything else. 00:57:13 Speaker 1: And with that said, our goal at the Element is to start making these videos instead of doing what may have come through in an outdoor media outdoor TV wave of content, where you put a bunch of kills in videos and you just make it like kind of mindless entertainment. We want this stuff to like when you watch it. I want you to feel like, oh man, that makes me feel like I went through that and iDeer hunted and it was cool. And I don't know if this is making a whole lot of sense, but I want you to. I want it to be almost nostalgic and sentimental when you watch a video, so that you feel like you were in the woods and you experienced it, because that's really what we want when we're sitting there watching in the office or you know, at our house when we're watching TV. 00:57:57 Speaker 5: It's it's to feel like we were. 00:57:59 Speaker 1: Kind of immersed in that moment and almost like you could feel a cold air around you or whatever. 00:58:05 Speaker 3: You know. 00:58:05 Speaker 1: I mean, that's when I can get that from watching a video, a deer hunting video. 00:58:11 Speaker 3: Those are the ones I like. 00:58:12 Speaker 1: So I guess what I'm trying to say is I want to definitely kind of we intend to make the deer like that deer's life kind of special, you know what I mean if that means anything to you. So I think it's really cool that we get to chase these things around that they're unique, they're you know, created for us to chase and eat and try to figure out. And I don't want to downplay that by just making just cookie cutter over and over again. You know, this is something that we have set out to kind of change and be a part of it's inn advocacy. So anyway, just some thoughts there case any other wrap up thoughts. 00:58:49 Speaker 4: Man, Deer season is a long way away. 00:58:53 Speaker 3: It is. 00:58:53 Speaker 2: It makes me sad, but that's why I think I'm liking turkey inting so much. 00:58:58 Speaker 5: Because it's really filling the game. 00:59:00 Speaker 4: Psycho myco back. There's gotten to me a little bit. I got kind of into it. 00:59:07 Speaker 3: At it. 00:59:08 Speaker 4: There's a chance that you and I chase a single season slam this year, and that that makes me real happy. 00:59:15 Speaker 3: Man. 00:59:15 Speaker 1: I kind of would I kind of would rather just catch you eight pound bass. 00:59:19 Speaker 4: Fine, you don't have to go with me, but I'm excited to do it. 00:59:22 Speaker 1: But if I, I mean, if I do end up shooting the Marriam sometimes saying, then I probably will go try to find the. 00:59:26 Speaker 3: Eastern some. 00:59:28 Speaker 4: Ktchen eight pounder. Actually ain't that hard. 00:59:30 Speaker 3: You just don't need a fish like four. You have to fish a different lakes, is that right? 00:59:34 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:59:34 Speaker 3: And or. 00:59:37 Speaker 4: I can show you where they're at. 00:59:38 Speaker 1: I'll catch them Camelot Bell or whatever. That place is out there, and is that a good spot? It's a I think it costs you like a thousand bucks a day to fish. 00:59:48 Speaker 3: Does it really that much? 00:59:50 Speaker 4: Set tree mass and stuff. 00:59:52 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean highly managed. 00:59:54 Speaker 1: I don't know if they I don't know if they do much feeding, but they you can't keep I think you can't release of bass. 01:00:02 Speaker 3: It's under like four pounds or. 01:00:03 Speaker 4: Something makes sense. That's what I do anything four pounds. I hope y'all are excited about some turkey hunting because it's been a good time. I like it a lot. 01:00:16 Speaker 2: We're gonna have quite a bit of turkey hunting footage on the Element and the you in the media YouTube. 01:00:21 Speaker 4: Channels here coming up, and uh, let's go kill some more Gan guys. Please, sir, remember this is your Element, live in it.

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