00:00:00 Speaker 1: You're listening to another big Buck breakdown from the Element podcast. What's going on on my woods people? Casey and I are just uh spending a couple of a couple of hours here warming up in the middle of the day. It has been freezing cold and we're in Kansas right now, which means that what you say yesterday, there ain't nothing but a skinny steering between here now, Bertie, that's right, dead come it's it's been so cold in the mornings. Afternoons are pretty warm. Honestly, it's a it's kind of crazy the variants of temperatures from the night to the morning up here. I mean that we saw thirteen degrees heading to the stand this morning, and it's gonna make it to probably seek to you today. It's fifty five out there right now. I think, wow, may might not, might not quite make it sixty be either way, it's a pretty warm for an afternoon. Yeah, but the deer seemed to be moving more in the afternoons than they do in the morning. At least that was my perception. But you kind of had a different perception this morning. Yeah, last night was still better movement. This morning, I saw a ton of dere last night, which that was kind of the consensus here and with all the guys here in camp, and it's, uh, I don't know. I'm hoping that we get the same movement, same type of movement you know this afternoon that we did yesterday afternoon, just because how many deer we're moving. Um, you know, we had a we almost we I thought we're gonna kill a buck this morning. Yeah, I thought you were too. Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what I'm saying, is like I thought you and I were gonna stalk down on that buck and kill him as well. We talked in on close enough to kill some does there. I don't know where he went then, but it's crazy. Yeah, Kansas is a lot of fun, man. It's it's cool just to be in a place where there's a lot of deer and uh, like you were saying, we've been up here a lot this year, and uh, dude, the rut was pretty wild. It seems so long ago, but it was like, crazy, how many deer we saw. Yeah, we had a we had a really good um early November, which that series is now releasing video wise on YouTube. A little by a little, so make sure're gonna check that out. The first video is already out. I'm hoping that by the time you listen to this, the second video will also be out. But if not, just make sure you're subscribe and you'll see that come out. Um, but it has been pretty tough, man. I I felt like until this morning, I've been up here almost a week, and I felt like, until this morning, I was not I couldn't even put together a full video with that experience. What's interesting is that, m until this morning, you hadn't been really to this property. I guess until last night that we hunted this morning. You know, it's like it's weird how I'm not saying you made a mistake, but how like you kind of get in the groove of like you're gonna try and make it happen at this one spot, and then like you end up going somewhere different in Oh, there's a deer over here, you know, and it and you just kind of it's good because you kind of get that fresh breath of you know, like, ah, man, we can make this thing happen. This is gonna be cool. Actually that one of the place I hunted before this was I've seen a ton of the are just no bucks. And the buck I was hunting over there, we think got shot this morning and killed. So we hope, we hope shot for sure. Yeah, one of the other guys that camp uh drew has placed an arrow in that buck, and uh, I think they're trying to do a little blood trailing right now. But uh, I think they're probably I don't know, based off the phone calls in Texas we got, I'm not sure what's going on, but I don't think they found it yet. Now I think they're they're still trying, and they just by the text us all the goo was three words, but it sounds like they might be uh kind of laying off, Yeah, exactly. So hopefully that deer can get put down pretty quick or he expires pretty soon we can go for a recovery. But uh, you know, I've been um kind of looking forward to this trip because it's the kind of the last big push to get it done in Kansas, and um, I came up here with a really good, I think, good game plan right off the get go, and but it's gonna take a little while to develop. So uh, we had we've got some permission places, some public places, I'm gonna do a little hunting on both of those. You've been doing a little hunting on both of those already, but we kind of did almost This is kind of funny, weird way to say it, but it's almost like the TV personality way of doing stuff, like you show up and put out some cameras and see what's there, you know. But that's kind of what we did. Uh. I guess yesterday around lunchtime, Um went and put out uh two corn in two different places and put cameras on them. Uh, And um, I'm kinda gonna let sit for a couple of days and see what shows up and assess where to go to try to because like right now, I kind of need a buck quick, you know, Like, yeah, it's good to like just do observation sits and figure out whether they're at or sit in the truck in the morning and glass him up. But the trail camera thing is gonna be pretty key for these last couple of hunts here and uh, we've got an Exodus trek hanging over one of these piles of corn over here, And I really like that camera for doing this because um, we're in places where you've got really people m using properties a lot, and uh, there's a good chance that a truil camera ends up missing. And one of them really nice things about Excedus trail cameras is you can put the security code on them and it pretty much locks them down. Where that cameras, Uh, I'm found not mistaken. It's like not usable by anyone else, can't it can't get into it. And it's you can on these trucks. You have like a a four digit number that you can use like a pen number or whatever, and uh, it keeps it well, it doesn't mean it can't be stolen, but at least it means it's not usable for somebody else. And with it being excess camera, ex just has that like replacement thing where what is the cost of the camera if it's stolen, they'll replace that. I think that they'll they'll match your money on it or something I can't remember, but a pretty good deal. Because of your warranty, Yeah, five year warranty. We're always getting camera stolen, uh, you know on public I think that I think that if a person is probably gonna open that camera in the woods and instead of just grabbing it and they're gonna look at it for a second. Well, when you open that camera up and you see that there's a security code and you can't just put zero zero zero zero in and it work, then the chances of you actually still in the camera I think are a lot more slim. And it stinks because they might steal that card. They likely will, but because if they were checking it, they might be on the camera, they probably will stand steal that card. But um, and that's kind of like we were talking about earlier. It's it's more it's more valuable to have that information sometimes that it is to have the camera. But at least you don't get both sides of it stolen. Yeah, you're hundred fifty bucks or the camera and st card. And that's another reason I like those tricks lots because they're a fairly reasonably priced camera that take really good pictures. I know you've always bragged about the exposure of those cameras, and I'm with you on it, and I think it's Uh, they do a real good job, especially in video mode, of adjusting quickly like it comes on. You can tell the whole camera is like booting up and coming on at the same time and adjusting exposure and it's like, within a split second, you're there. I think one thing about these cameras on on picture mode with the exposure that I like is that they switch over to black and white a little bit earlier than most cameras do, so instead of getting like a really grainy color image, you just get it really crisp black and white image, which we all know what colored white tails are, so I don't think it's like not really that essential to get a colored photo, right, So be Brian Brodder and you're shooting pie ball exactly, which you can still probably tell from black that's right, that that is true. But yeah, anyways, uh, I guess we'll just throw it in here now. I big thanks to Xus for kind of helping helping us bring these big Buck breakdowns to you this season. Um, speaking of the big Buck breakdown, Uh, our guy finally made it. Dude, we were a little bit worried. Yeah, yeah, we were, because I mean we we knew he was going to and then he had some issues with some deer yes this year and shooting in that kind of thing, and something's going wrong and he was able to find rooting for him the whole time, and it and it happened our our man, Sam Hogan, who I believe this makes him the longest tenured Uh well, I don't know if that's the right way to say it, but annually most often BBB featured guy every year, every year it was since we've been doing it, and every time we do bb with him, Uh, I think we kill something right the next day or something. Yeah, well we killed nameless after we need to bb you with him, I know, and I don't remember what happened la then and then yeah, I'm gonna say it happened. Yeah, So he's good luck. He's gonna kills something today. He's good like, Well, that's I think it's gonna happen. I mean that buck that we chased this morning that we thought was in there and wasn't, He's probably gonna come by the area today. And I'm not even hunt that treecy because we're looking at a different win than what they were. No, we got a lot of stuff to figure out. We might need to do some mapping here in a second, So why don't we just get Sam on Let's do it man all right now on the phone. We have one of our correspondents, Sam getting what's going on, dude, Hey, how's it going. I'm doing all right, How dude it's going? You know, we've been I've been freezing all day. Casey got spooked by a deer, which usually you're spooking here, but uh, what happened. No, it was one of those situations where I'm kind of on a bluff where a stand is, you know, because the same high eye level height as a deer sometimes are. And uh, I turned around and there was a spikeet like eight it's away looking at me in the face. A little bit spooky. But that's all that really happened for me. But I can attest to the spookiness of that situation because I did that with two doughs a few days back, and it was scary. So it's it's like spooky or is it like holy cow? How to get that close without me knowing? Um, it's spooky. It's spooky. It's like from weird deer down there. I don't know, but I've ever I've had that situation happened to be plenty of time, but I've never been like, man, that was scary. They got there's a phenomenon where like if you're a little bit cold, and then a deer surprises you. It's like suddenly you were shaking uncontrollably. Even when it's not a deer you want to shoot. It's just like, well there's a deer, you know, and it's just like and it was definitely a little bit cold tonight, which you know all about that. We I know we're preaching to the choir on the cold thing, but you know what for us the people that say y'all and draw things out a little bit like it's cold, Sam, it's cold, man. Yeah, you know I can I can try to do that. That's pretty good. I like the attempt. That's okay, man, that's all good. It's uh, it's good to have you on and see that just contradiction or that contrast, I guess, and in who we are and who you are, and you can just tell that like, uh, hunting is kind of a universal thing that can bring people together still uh. And then also just knowing that ye're just like you're just the man. Dude's like you just you just kill things, dude, like somehow, and you've had this nervous Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. You've had a roller coaster season. I think the last time that we talked to you in the podcast, you told the most epic story of the year and all across all social media or all media outlets in the outdoor industry, and we were lucky to have you on to tell that. But since then, kind of tell us what's happened. And then more recently you've had some success, right, Yeah, I gotta got a little bit of lucky lucky break. Um. I guess following up from the last time we talked, we were I was planning on doing the camping island hunt. You get dropped off on an island and have seven days to do what we can basically, And is that was that part of the Naked and Afraid show or what is that exactly? You're talking about? Hunting Oa? It could have been, but that would it would would a light in the pack for sure, a lot less close. But but yeah, no, sorry sorry, if that was the case, we never would. I mean, you think it's cold then, or do you think it's cold down there November on an island getting the breezes from Lake Michigan, naked, No, that wouldn't go well, I'll be here talking on the phone right now. Anyway, Sorry about you know what. You're good. You're good. Yeah, So that ended up completely falling apart due to transportation issues. Basically, we got we got the tag we which isn't hard to obtain. Apparently what's hard to obtain is a way to get to the island. So that that kind of fell apart, and rather than my buddy and I doing that, we saw some opportunity in some Northern Michigan public land and uh, it was the last week of October, and we figured, you know this is that that's honestly probably my favorite time to hunt. It's not like all out rough fest, but there's deer certain to cruise, and it's just it's the hype. Everything's uh, and it's not just like hype for me, it's hype from deer. They're all ready to go. The bucks are bucks are certain cruise. Those aren't in astrisk yet, but it's it's getting close and they know it. And uh, your time a tail end of October with a cold front and things start happening. And that was kind of what we had. And we went up there and I actually had a pretty rough hunt and wounded a rather large white tail. And Northern Michigan is not known for large white tail. So um, I had a couple of other encounters that ended negatively all to say, December four, um, I still had not shot a buck in Michigan, which for me, once December rolls around, bucks generally are not that visible. Like if I go out hunting right now, which I have been, I'm pretty much dead set on filling a dote head. I don't. I haven't had positive experiences hunting December for bucks in Michigan. Um, So it was kind of a bleak spot to be for me, to be honest, it was like, man, the first year and like four years that I want to have killed the buck, and first year and three that I won't have a big buck breakdown. So a good day, but uh it was. It was very very lucky. It was get out of work and I have an hour and probably an hour and a half left. And for me, I think the key to success is just time. Just if I have an hour and a half, I'm gonna sit for an hour and a half. Like if I've got like an hour, I'm gonna get to my spot as quick as possible, go run in and get set up and see what happens, and and more often, not more often than not, but oftentimes that's a that's kind of when things happened when like you don't really expect him to have. So I went in and I went to a piece of private that quite a lot of people hunt, and quite a lot of people who don't um have mom. I'm sure they have desires to kill big bucks, but they shoot every buck. Kind of one of those properties that you might describe it as like your typical Michigan deer hunting property, where it's a lot of deer die and there's a lot of deer there, but as far as growing anything halfway decent um and I don't I don't even like saying that. I kind of threw up in my mouth a little saying growing deer, but seeing deer, seeing deer that are like halfway decent, it just doesn't happen much there, especially this late in the season. It's like, yeah, that's the odds of seeing a three and a half year old are better marching through this swampy piece in like post rot or not very high. But I had an hour and a half and that place was close, and I was going to go see what happened. So there's a basically one side of the swamp uh gets hunted a lot, and the other side there's a small wood lot that butts up to like a subdivision and a school, and the subdivision has about four and a half acres of undeveloped property that I have permission through somebody on the actual subdivision board to go hunt. And I'm sure they gave me permission with zero idea that I would actually go hunt there. I do. So there was actually the second time I've gone back there, and I knew that the deer were cruising that side of the swamp to avoid the slaughter fest that was occurring on the opposite side. So I had a halfway decent wind, I had no time, so I pretty much booked it across the swamp and and got set up. And I didn't set up in a tree stand. I just found an early oak um in between two trails and just kind of knelt next to that. And normally kneeling on the ground does not work for me, because I get the nastiest Charlie horses and I end up like sprawled out on the ground riding and pain. But this one was a short enough sit that I figured i'd just I'd make it, make it work. And uh, literally, at last light, I had had nothing come through. And uh, at last light, I see a deer and given the season I had had with unrecovered deer, and and Mrs I was like, you know what, that's a I put that at at least two and a half year old, just body size, like it was getting dark enough to the point where it was hard to see antlers, and it was in some brush. So looking at the body and like, that's a buck. He's cruising for some strange reason. Still um, and I can make out like at least a halfway decent eight point side. So I draw, he steps out, I shoot, and I don't know what happened, but my arrow flew really funny, and I'm not sure if it being on the ground I deflected on it deflected off a branch or something. It's hard to tell, especially in the low light situation. But the arrow kicked real weird, and uh, I hit the buck. But the arrow just flew way too strange for me to be confident, and I knew the shot was going to be back. Um, So immediately I'm like, all right, not going after this deer right now. So I called a couple of buddies and UH basically said, I think this deer is dead, but I'm going to give him time. I walked to the arrow, and the arrow was didn't smell like guts necessarily, but it was real dark, so like definitely a liver. I was pretty sure if I O liver, I got guts. But I was also very confident that it was going to be dead if we gave them time. Um. The deer also ran directly towards backyards and to school, so tracking was going to be fascinating, and I was like, you know what, maybe it's better if I wait for these people to go to bed and then go back there. So I uh, I gave them actually five hours, and my buddy drove half an hour to help me track, which was awesome because just the nerve racking experiences of sneaking through backyards and not actually backyards, but like butting right up to backyards like fifty yards from their houses, um is nerve wracking. So having somebody else do the same nerve wracking thing with you makes it better. Um. But we were snuck back out there at nine o'clock, ten o'clock. We gave them four or five hours, and we were just going to take the blood trail really really slowly. Um. The reason I even and out again that night was because I did not want somebody to wake up the next morning before I got there and find a buck dead in their backyard, or somebody go to school and see a dead deer in the courtyard or wherever it made it to um the middle of the soccer field, I don't know. Um, Basically, I couldn't leave this deer. And it's one of those things that you don't I mean, you kind of think about it, but you don't think about it until you're in the situation where you're tracking a deer. Um you just kind of think, Okay, i'll if I make a good shot, he'll go a hundred yards and pile up right there and we'll be just fine. But obviously that did not occur in this situation, and I was kind of in a pickle where I felt like I just had to keep had to go after him before before it got light. We're sneaking in dark, dark red blood. We never bumped him that we could see, like, never never got to like hear him run away, But we were also bumping all kinds of deer in there, so we got real, real chaotic. We didn't even have a bow um just because of where we were sneaking through backyards. And at one point, this deer left the wood lot and his blood trail because he was bleeding pretty good. His blood trail went directly into a backyard and we're looking, like there's snow on the ground, and we're looking to see if we can see him like bedded or laying down up there or piled up up by the house. And all of a sudden, this guy walks in the backyard and he's like shining his flashlight on the ground, like we just assumed that he was tracking the deer, but it immediately sends us into this holy cow, he's in the subdivision. We're gonna have to go like find him before somebody else does. So we we back out. We go into the subdivision, just start walking roads and we're looking for for blood trails that crossed the road to see if we can't pick him up on the other side. And uh, ultimately we determined he did not cross that road. So we go back into the woods. We keep tracking. We bump him a couple of times into the school, back out of the school, and then finally he crosses this main road. And at this point, it's about two in the morning, and uh, he crosses a main road and at this point, I know it's not in a subdivision and it's not at the school, so I'm backing out. So we knew we were bumping it because we'd find some beds and UH. At that point, I was finally confident enough that we would be able to get permission or at least go and go and try to get permission or figure out a way to go get this buck. But I wasn't as worried about leaving it until morning. So we went home at about two, got back up. We actually opted to go to work, UM, and we got back out there at like three, So we both left work a little bit early and wanted to go check on it because we didn't want to get there because we knew it was on private We found one bed on the other side of the road, right along a creek, and if we were to get out there before work, it would have been at like seven thirty in the morning, and we didn't want to wake up a landowner asking to go track a deer in UH a pretty pretty I don't want to say urban, but in not a rural area. Suburban. We'll go with suburban. And uh. We get back out there at three and we three in the afternoon and this deer where it was bedded the last time we bumped it. It was bedded right along this creek and on the other side of the creek was a private drive and me and actually two of my buddies this time wanted to come out and see what was going on, so they came with me. We piled into the minivan, which is a great hunting vehicle, and drive down this private drive, which clearly, by the looks we were getting from everybody there, not many people just drive down that road. It does not happen often. No, yeah, exactly. It's not white and there are windows, but yeah, you're raised some suspicion. Uh well we we uh we started driving down there. Also noteworthy is three o'clock is when the school gets out, so very poor timing. Kids walking everywhere, and we're like, oh boy, here we go. Uh, we're driving down this road. And I asked the guys because they're on the side of the vehicle that can see better, we're on the other side of the creek. I'm driving, so I'm like, guys, look in this wood. I doubt he made it a hundred yards once we stopped pushing them, Like we knew we were pushing this year. We knew he was hurt bad. Um, we just had to keep pushing him. So I said, he's gonna be within a hundred yards and they didn't see him. So I turned around to go to drive back out, and maybe sixty years from when we last saw him, or where we last saw bed, he was piled up and I could see him from the van, just on cloud nine. Because naturally you don't sleep much after a night like that. I think every hunter or most hunters have been through it. It's just kind of a miserable feeling. This. Uh, this buck died on the other side of the creek, so it was probably twenty five yards off the road, which was also twenty five yards from a little kid bus stop, um, which it is comical to think about a bunch of parents of kids standing there that morning wondering what that smell is and and they're being a buck like twenty yards away. But the clearly nobody knew it was there. And I opted to go to the landowner. I pulled up on it, got the landowners info. UM, knocked on the door. Nobody answered. I was spamming their ring. They have one of those ring doorbells, which I'm pretty sure go to your phone. So I was thinking, like, maybe if I click it enough times they will get thick of a notification. UM. It didn't work either, and I was like, you know what he's And then I was thinking, like the creek. I hear this from my fisherman buddies who say, like, creek our public access. Once you're in the creek, you can like move your but I guess it's free. I don't know how to explain it, but I just got it's a creek and not a creek. A man, I'm messing up the first rule. It's a creek, y'allah. And uh, it's got some real steep banks. I've figured it's public access. I'm gonna just drop down into this pull like climb the other side, and it's it's right there. Well, he was close enough I didn't even have to laugh, so like if I he was vetted right on like the six ft bank of the creek. Creek and he died right there, So like, I just got up there and I grabbed him and I pulled him into the The man, this go mess me up for the rest of the story. I'll call it a creek. What do you naturally call it? I naturally call it a creek. Oh yeah, I thought you were saying that just javing fun about Most people north of here call it crick Yeah. Yeah, it's like that's what you have in your neck. That's not a word. Yeah, what what do you call like the shingles on the top of your house? Okay, people call that a rough. I don't get it. That's what That's what I say, exactly. Man, we're on the same page. A few pronunciation things that the Michigan guys and the Texas guys might agree out. How about that, man, that's something else. So you pull this thing, you reach out like Austin Powers, I would think, and uh, pull your buck into the creek real quick, and uh, nobody knows it well. People were starting to take notice at this point. Um. We had a very very nice little old lady completely perplexed at how somebody was hunting here, um, thinking that we were hunting like her front yard presumably, And uh, I explained that we had tracked it from across on the other side of the school, on the other side of the subdivision, and she was she was nice, but just very confused, like how do you end up here? Where were you hunting? Very innocently curious, So she wasn't she wasn't trying to cause a scene or get me in any sort of trouble, but she was very um confused, clearly that it's not something that happens recently on that private strive often. So as soon as I got up to him, I looked down. I'm like, I have no idea what dear this is. But it's way better than I thought it was, Like it it's not your standard two year old eight um that I thought it could have been. I just knew it was better. It was at least that big, probably better. So I was kind of prepared for like the smallest buck possible. UM. So I got up to him, I'm dragging him and I drug him down and was dragging him up the other side, and my buddies are like, holy cow, that is a big deer, Like it took all three of us to get them out of that creek. After after I got him down in there, so we loaded him up and got him processed. Um, I got him, got him gutted when we got back to the property, not on the side of the private drive, so we just we got out of there as soon as we could. Um. And it turns out that I was going back through trail camera pictures that my buddy sent me, and it is the biggest buck that we have pictures of on the property, and it had disappeared completely since July. We have one picture of them in July people's backyards bird feeders. That's that's probably exactly where he was, because I hadn't spent hardly any time hunting on that side. Um, And I'm sure he was. I'm sure it was just cruising through backyards bird feeders. There's there's a ton of dose. Not necessarily on the property that gets hunted a lot because they're all dead, but the neighboring properties have a lot of them, so I'm sure he didn't have to move very far to find find a hot dough. So I'm like it. It doesn't surprise me that we didn't see them for that long, but it very much surprised me that I was able to wrap my my tag around him that. Uh, it's just odd to see a dear bad big come out of the woodwork late in the season on after a season that that I felt I was I was, I was not getting lucky for not going my way, So it just ended up being a it was a backwards way to get there, but it was a very very positive outcome. Man. That's two things. How do you always have some incredible story and how do you always kill big bucks and bowls? Well, I am the most proud of every deer that I've ever killed, but like I wouldn't call them like they're not monsters, but yeah, dude, they're They're good. I'm absolutely really pumped. I don't know how old this deer is, um, but the body on him in July was huge. He was a little run down post rut. So it's always hard to look at the body of those deer and know exactly what they are or what they were. Judging by trail camera picture, i'd imagine that he'd have to be I don't know, lighter. I mean, he dropped a lot of weight to have this process. Those sunflower sites, I think they don't. Well, it's weird because you'd think that like egg field deer would be huge deer that are just living in egg fields. And there's no egg fields anywhere near this thing. I don't know, Like maybe maybe somebody had some had some minerals or something in their in their birds meeting. I don't know, but something, something got him big. Early in the summer, he was a he looked like a cow. I remember like seeing that trail camera picture and being like, that is a black angus white tail. Yeah. I don't know how it happened, but he's a big but yeah when I when I got my hands on, I mean it took. I mean it's not a small deer by any stretch, but it was not. It was not the big burly white tail that we had pictures of for sure. Yeah. Well after you dressed him, did you get any more confirmation on what was up with the shot and maybe what caused the arrow issue or anything. Yeah, So the shot was actually better than I thought. So the knock my I were shooting lighted knocks and the knock I think kicked out. So he was walking left to right and my knock kicked left, and naturally where that knock goes is where you presume the broadhead is um and I think because it kicked out to the left. I saw the knock go left and it looked further back than what it was. My entry was perfect, but apparently he was slightly more quarter to me than I thought, so it took out lungs and guts or lungs liver and guts, and uh. The exit was probably like second to last rid back, so kind of pretty pretty center mass. It wasn't like it wasn't like hind quarterback, but it was it was back enough where you messed up some nasty stuff. Yeah, yeah, sure, Well at least it was fatal and you got to recovering pretty quick. Man. He's a stud. And just like Tyler said, it seems like every year we can rely on you. It took two December this year, we're a little disappointed, but you still got your big boat breakdown done for the year. You guys put me on the spot. I don't know if it was August or earlier, but you guys, before before deer season, you were getting pretty hyped and talking about big buck breakdowns you were going to be doing in the future. And I don't remember which one of you said it, but it was oh, we're like, who do you think is gonna be doing it? And like I was, I was thrown in the mix with some very very esteemed names and obviously that makes me uncomfortable. And there's like all the pressure I had put on myself, it's like quadrupled because now they're expecting it. Man, just well wishes. It's not expectations, it's just we know you're gonna get it done. Man. Positivities what heals and I know it. I know it. Yeah, unless you're me because I'm a very positive person. I have not killed a buck yet this year, so there's that, But otherwise there I I honestly, I know we've talked about I think we've talked about this off air, um, but I think there's a lot to it, just the positivity. Yeah, fan point and what I wanted to mention, I'm pretty your every single podcast we've talked about me being like the lucky chid. Yeah, like you talked to me and you go kill a big ten point. That's what happened two years ago for sure. I'm not sure about the other ones. I don't know if this can be correlation, but me and Tyler definitely talked and then he got it done in Iowa. Really, that's right. The night before Sam was like I had it was. Sam was pretty much the key to my my inspiration. Yeah, I'm gonna take Sam every day from here. He called me. I think I think he called me one way or another way. We ended up on the phone and he was like, I don't know. He was just like she could tell that I was down, and he was just like, I was like, dude, you got this. You know what you're doing kind of thing. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't like a super hot fest or anything full football coach on you. But I was going to be upset if you left Iowa. I'm like, dude, don't. He was emotionally invested in that hunt. And I've never I've never hunted Iowa. Didn't let you down because I didn't shoot the big old giant that everybody goes to Iowa four. But I didn't shoot a nice bug. But he's just you know, he wasn't. He wasn't probably what we hyped it up to be on the on the podcast or something. I hope at least we didn't overhappen. But that was that was a good deer. When you were when you. I think I called you the next day when you snapchatted me or like texted me a picture of like a belly. I think it was a belly. Yeah, it wasn't Ryane either. It wasn't my belly. Yeah, I guess a white belly could be either to us yard piled up deer. Yeah, yeah, that's a good that's good. Yeah, that that just led into the hype fest. But but yeah, hopefully hopefully this brings case see some bluck tomorrow. It brings me of course he does. This guy don't kill three deer this year, will both kill and it'll just make up for everything. That's's what's gonna happen. That that'd be pretty pretty epic. Yeah, well, we appreciate you telling the story. Man. I'm I'm glad that you got it done. I'm I'm even more glad that you're able to recover that deer and and uh, Kyles didn't eat him and you put it on YouTube and get raged. I'm glad that that went your way, man, So I appreciate it. And uh, and then thanks for having me on. We'll talk to you already. Sam's always got something crazy that happens he's one of those guys that, uh, I don't know how you say, like not that crazy follows him, but like he's gonna get in a situation and it's not gonna be bad or like sketchy or whatever. But he's just one of those guys that things happen to that make for good stories. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of have always wondered about the whole like subdivision deer, deer track and real man, because they're uh not that we have a whole lot of subdivisions where we're at that have good deer hunting, but there's a few. And then across the U, especially out east, I think there's a lot of urban deer hunting that happens and and so that's interesting. I think the other some other states, um let me rephrase this. Where we come from, you either have people who are all about hunting or you have people that are kind of anti hunting. And I think that some you know, in Texas, we're real proud of me in rednecks or whatever, you know, whatever people wanna call it, but that's that that is the really the case. I think that some of these, especially more in northern states, though everybody goes out and gets their deer and gun season thing like runs pretty deep, so that you have even people that are like old cat ladies kind of understand that people are gonna shoot deer, you know, so like they're just a little bit more cool with it than like what maybe you know, Dallas Suburbia mom might be sometimes you know what I mean. So I don't know, and that that might be just my perception and it might not be the case. O cat Lady. Huh yeah, O cat lady, Yeah, those are those are fun people speaking of cal ladies. So, uh, rings are a new a cool thing now, not like a ring for your finger, but like the door mail you don't talking about, it has a camera on it. Sam talked about that, didn't he Oh he did that in the podcast. Yeah. So I'm on this page on Facebook. It's like Native Texas Wildlife or something, and somebody was like, I had no idea. I had all this wildlife in my yard in North Houston and they're like recording it from the ring and they're like there's like raccoons and possums and then what is this one? It's a tom cat. I thought it was something like that. Black panthers. Of course, Yeah, of course we saw it. We saw a good trail camera picture recently, a series of trail coming pictures from local US that was about the most black panther looking black tom cat that you could imagine. Yeah, imagine black panther, but shrink it five times. But it's like it was weird because the perspective somehow the cameras on like a really short tree or something, and it made that that cat the picture like and there was like small trees in the background or something that looked like they could have been big trees, and so it made this this cat look way bigger. Man. There were some people hype about it. Dude. People love a good uh cryptozoologic episode on trail cameras, believe me. But speaking of that kind of thing, um, we may have filmed some black panthers out at my property one point in time this season. Yeah, we definitely. Um, so y'all be sure and subscribe to the YouTube channel because that stuff will be coming out. Uh, you've got the Kansas videos rolling out right now. We talked a little bit about that earlier, but you'll be sure and subscribed to that. The rut time in Kansas, Orely November stuff was just absolutely crazy. I actually I'm enjoying go back and rewatching them right now because I just I've had a tough year for killing as far as killing goes personally, and I kind of get down to the dumps and I get to thinking negatively, and then I go back and look and see how good of a season that you and I've actually had, just with encounters and having fun and seeing cool stuff in the woods. That's really one of the nice things about filming your hunts. Man. It's like, it's it's cool to be able to share this stuff with people, but it's also cool just to be go back and the memories, you know. Dude, Like, like about a month and a half to two months later after I released a series, I go back and watch it and I'm like, god, that was fun. Man. Yeah. I went back and watching Nebraska. Uh, I don't know, a couple weeks ago maybe, and I was like remembering, you know, all the things that happened to everything, And what's crazy is like the hunt was tough. I think we talked about how it was not really super fun because of all the bugs and then eating everything and at least the way I did it, and um, but like I've forgotten about how much of that stuff, you know, like was not cool and more just looked at all the cool stuff that happened as like, man, that was a fun trip. I want I can't wait to go back, And I don't really know if I can or can't, you know, like, I can't wait to go back. But then when I think about when I actually think about it, I'm like, man, there was a lot of that was nasty. But I mean there are three things in this world Tyler does not like to run up on the woods. Number one being a snake. Make number two being a skeeter. Number three being a ske is that snakskeeters and skunks? Yeah, which is snak skunks, And I don't really like to get too close parks simity with you know those animals either so they're not cool skunks or or weird man. Yeah, what's worse about skunks is they come out of nine and then when are you walking in you and at a your tree stand and you ever, I didn't watch The Joker, did you watch it? Yeah? But the commercials I've seen that's the way a skunk acts. You know, they just like flail around and like do weird things all of a sudden, and it's like like you don't know if he's cocked and ready to go, or if he's just like flirting with a lady friends somewhere. You know. It's like, yeah, exactly, so Skunk's weird me out became man because you never they're just unpredictable. Um, you know what a skeeter and a snake is about to dude, they're about to strike. Uh anyway, Uh yeah, go go subscribe to YouTube channel check it out. Feel free to give us a support for supporting comments at any moment on any video. We will take them positive. He's a great, invable and precious thing, it is, man. And you know what, you don't even have to be an expert to do that. That's you know that. In fact, you don't even have to act like an expert at all on YouTube and you don't you don't. You don't have to do it on a podcast either. We're trying not to you because we're not. Yeah, so anyway, UM, I'm gonna hope to shoot a deer like the one that's on TV right now tonight. And uh with that said, man, it's it's uh, it's getting you know towards the end of December. Ristmas is gonna happen soon. Uh, we might not even have a podcast before Christmas main show, WILLI Yeah, I don't guess. So Christmas Christmas to you guys, and and uh, make sure and spend time with the family and stuff like that. But man, if you can get out and and uh do a little deer hunting, Man, it's a fun time of year. You kind of have the woods yourself. Things get quiet, and you know, people bundle up, stay inside and that kind of thing and don't do a whole lot of yard work sometimes when it's cold. So it can make for in my opinion, in my experience, of a pretty just peaceful and fun evening sometimes when you just bundle up and don't get after it too hard. You just kind of like, hell, if they come out, I'm gonna shoot one. If they don't, I'm just gonna have a good even watching things happening in the woods. You know So, Um, I don't know, It's like Casey said earlier, dere they're still deer in the woods, you know so, And even if you don't shoot a deer, um in the next couple of weeks, there are some fun things that can aren't happening soon, like hollow hunting and fishing for us people maybe up north and more ice fishing that kind of thing. It'll start warming up in a in a couple of months here for us, and and really bass fishing starts to kick up. So it's an exciting time of year, man, with with the holidays and everything. I'm just excited to finally, uh kind of relax and hang out with my family because I've been hunting so much and and uh, it sounds like a terrible problem, I know, but I'm definitely excited about it. So yeah, well that said, Casey, and now I've got to make plans for the night. I'm getting down to the wire here in Kansas, and I've I've done it before, but it's not feeling too promising right now. So we uh, we will have to see y'all wish me luck and remember this is your element living in ever and that's why the college I've always heard blood of thicker than water and swashing moves so slow. Look down upon her, well, I can see it crossing. It still looks the same. It's rain m

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