00:00:06 Speaker 1: Yo, what's up? You're off in God's Country with. 00:00:08 Speaker 2: You boys, Dan and read isbel I don't even get to say my name anymore. 00:00:12 Speaker 3: No, are so known as the Brother's Hunt, where we take a weekly drive to the intersection of country music and the great outdoors. Two things go, two things, two chains, two things that go together. 00:00:25 Speaker 1: Like Ronda Rousey and it's not thinking that she can knock us off. 00:00:32 Speaker 2: Or a Navy base and sangreea her lips tys like segre that's brought to you by meat Eater. 00:00:44 Speaker 3: And I'm still going, still going on this thing. 00:00:52 Speaker 4: Co sponsormen shown I Baby, God Sponsorman the shown I Baby. 00:01:00 Speaker 1: We're back in time. We're throwing down fresherbone and he's lyrics. That was good that you turn. 00:01:05 Speaker 2: It up in your truck when you hear it cuts the grun shine man. Papa got a brand new bag. Papa gotta bring new bag. Baby, What does that mean? We talked about James Brown today. Oh yeah, that's what he does. That's right, he does cash cash is coulpepper. Hey see eat man, that's cool, smelled good, sing. 00:01:36 Speaker 1: Good, look good. 00:01:38 Speaker 2: It's white teach you see funniest Him's got white he's a hard worker man. 00:01:43 Speaker 1: I like the way he was. 00:01:44 Speaker 2: He just and and I think this would be a great episode for the pursuance songwriter of just being motivated and going, maybe I'm not a social media or artist whatever. Maybe I'm not a social media guy, but I gotta give it to give it a shot. Maybe I'm not a songwriter, but I get it, give it a shot. Maybe I'm not a gig player, but I got to give. 00:02:05 Speaker 1: It a shot. 00:02:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want to regret it down the line, not looking back and not being able to when he had the time and the opportunity to. 00:02:11 Speaker 2: Take advantage, to take advantage of yea, and he worked hard and it happened fast. 00:02:15 Speaker 3: Taught him stuff how to play the guitar on a naval bass in Spain when the world was shutting down in COVID and started playing around bonfires that they were having out there, illegal bonfires. 00:02:24 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I'll bee the control for that. I think that's the difference between what a Spain came and got. I thought about it while he was saying, surely he's out or whatever he's rocking. I thought about it while he was talking, and I think that's a major difference between I'm sorry, that's that's that's something that artists like creators should take into consideration, is like, yes, you make great art, but there has to be the motivation to move that forward if that's what you want to do for a career. You can't just make great art. It has to be no, yeah, just a piece of the entire puzzle. I think if if you're trying to get to do at this point, you're not trying to do it, man, do you just make great art? 00:03:03 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:03:03 Speaker 2: Sure, but that's a that's a prime example of how to get it going. Yeah, great interview, great story, y'all. Y'all enjoyed a whole lot. 00:03:09 Speaker 1: Check him out. He's got new music out and he's got it. 00:03:11 Speaker 3: He's on on the road this this fall with dal Dylan Gossip Uh, Leon Bridges a couple more times, and he's going on the road. 00:03:17 Speaker 2: With Whiskey Mane with Yeah Hoodie who Yeah, Theius Darius. 00:03:23 Speaker 3: So you'll dig it, appreciate it, Appreciate your hanging out, Appreciate you following us those like we hadn't done this in a while, but we're back now about to roll out some episode. 00:03:33 Speaker 1: I wonder how long this one's going to be? 00:03:35 Speaker 2: Oh short, guys, this is a quick You gotta go get a little quick lunch. 00:03:39 Speaker 1: All right? 00:03:40 Speaker 2: Here we go hunting honky tonks and h because I can't see what the rest of it is. 00:03:46 Speaker 1: From Patrick eight o three, what is. 00:03:48 Speaker 2: That other age? Hunting honkey tonks and hair homies, hunt and. 00:04:00 Speaker 1: Dudes? 00:04:01 Speaker 2: Me and you sure God's Country isn't a podcast. It's a back road sermon delivered from the bed of a muddy Silverado. It's tundra. You got a Silverado? I got from a muddy Silverado with a cooler full of Diet Millers and zero self service. Appreciate the diet Miller's reference there. These guys aren't here to preach. They're here to tell you how life really works. Somewhere between Chase and Buck's blast of country music and questioning everything except their trucks reliability Chevrolet Dealer, the conversations go from hunting stories to heated debates of which Luke culms songs hits the hardest, and yes, the kind of love we make gets brought up like it's the national anthem. 00:04:41 Speaker 4: Right. 00:04:41 Speaker 2: They somehow make philosophy sound like something you'd hear of a grill full of venison. It's raw, chaotic, and deeply relatable. If you've ever skipped Sunday service because the rut was peaking, Listening feels like dropping into a group chat between your cousin who lives off grid and your buddy who's drives to lift a truck and a guy who wears who thinks camouflage is formal. Five stars, not because it's polished, but because it's real, real country, real chaos, and real entertaining. 00:05:06 Speaker 1: Thank you, Patrick, eight oh three. That's a good one. That is a good one. Yep. 00:05:13 Speaker 2: Hunting Honky Tonks and hot dogs, hunting Honkey talks and I bought you what's good for today? Hunting Honkey Tonks and Calipinos hunting Honkey Tonks and we'll see you next time. See you man, Thanks for coming out. Pepper cashus cold peppers, K see p E later. 00:05:41 Speaker 1: Can I call you? 00:05:42 Speaker 5: Uh? 00:05:43 Speaker 3: I don't even know we just met this morning, man, but I feel like we're already bros a little bit. Can I call you cash yeah instead of cashes? 00:05:50 Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, that's what all my friends called me cash. I was kind of thinking k C P Man. 00:05:54 Speaker 4: For mister pepper, Oh, mister doctor pepper, Oh big pepper, big peptor pepper, doctor p. 00:06:05 Speaker 1: DP. Why not don't you just struck a chord. You start researching DP, you get into some weird stuff. 00:06:15 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, man, I ain't gonna don't google, don't, don't google it, don't. We got an Alabama native Grammy artist to watch, dude, This might be my favorite statistic about your navy veteran. 00:06:29 Speaker 6: Man. 00:06:30 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that. 00:06:31 Speaker 3: Remember of this year's oppry next Stage Class State Champion wrestler bart State just learned the guitar five years ago. Now touring with Leon Bridges, Dalan Gossip, Whiskey myrs. 00:06:44 Speaker 2: We got cash k CP not dp CO. 00:06:49 Speaker 1: I can be out of Guy's country today. Don't go home and look at. 00:06:59 Speaker 6: Too. 00:07:01 Speaker 2: All right, thanks for coming on, man, thank you for having me rocking, rocking the bottom land already. 00:07:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's cool, kidding. 00:07:09 Speaker 4: I got this outfit idea off of Pinterress. 00:07:11 Speaker 1: Oh that's what else coming in? He smell so good man, he smelled good. Bro. I got this. Uh it's a secret fragrance. I got an Arizona. You ain't gotta tell it, don't don't give it away. 00:07:21 Speaker 4: Well, I'll give you the first thing, but it has some hints of Anila, okay, And I won't tell anybody else exactly the shot where I got it at in Arizona. 00:07:30 Speaker 2: It's a local artist. You think he'd want to be shouted out? He probably would. 00:07:35 Speaker 1: I don't know what's saying. That's the I didn't need to do. I like you wrapped. 00:07:42 Speaker 2: That isn't like I ain't gonna do it like that, And I don't know. It's not even be honest with you. He's real with us if it's got some vanilla that no wonder I like. 00:07:55 Speaker 3: Sorry, Dan, it was a million hours late towards indeed another day where I guess got here before you did. I'm here nearly all the time before you, not today, not today, though not today, and today is the only day that matters. 00:08:08 Speaker 1: I apologize about that, cause all right, man, we're all here. Today's only day we got there. 00:08:14 Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it, hey, before we get into what you're mad at, what's not doing? 00:08:18 Speaker 1: What? Uh? How fast could you submit me on the floor right now? Should we do it? Give us? Should give us an over under maybe about thirty seconds? Yeah? 00:08:33 Speaker 2: Okay, but what about me. That's messed up. Now, you got it. That's a good guess. 00:08:39 Speaker 1: Now, guess me. I probably think about the same. 00:08:43 Speaker 2: Pretty messed up, like a little longer than No. I think it's I think that's I think it's an air of confidence. 00:08:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just a confidence. I mean, you obviously know what you're doing. You set. 00:08:54 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's just like you. You you hope that you can do the same with me. I mean I would, I would, yeah, but I would kind of No, there ain't no hope, you know, No, I know that ain't happening. Yeah, I mean I know yours ain't having basics like that I would put up I put a five hundred, five hundred bones that I go far, like go longer than you. Five hundred bones is worth doing it right now? I mean, like, if you put up five hundred bones, I'll put it five hord bones. We'll wrestle him in the floor right now. I mean, is that like good for the brand or I don't know. I mean he's gonna beat us ball. I don't think we got time checking out no wrestling wrestling in in school. We didn't even have wrestling. We didn't have it which ill grew up. It's football, baseball, basketball. 00:09:42 Speaker 4: I thought Tennessee would. I thought that was very strong than wrestling. What Chattanooga has. 00:09:46 Speaker 3: They might now now like some of the and we're a bigger school, but we were pretty country school and so like we probably couldn't get the fund and to have a wrestling team with nobody in our town wrestled to even know how to coach it. 00:09:56 Speaker 2: I literally didn't even know it existed until w W. Yeah that's wrestling. No, I know ain't, but that's what I thought wrestling was. 00:10:05 Speaker 4: That's what's so strange about the South. Like you got certain states like Alabama's like growing and railing, but like you go to Mississippi, nobody knows what's going on. 00:10:15 Speaker 1: Now, how did you get into it? 00:10:17 Speaker 4: One of my coaches just came up to me in middle school and at the time I was like doing I was d line and they said wrestling stances and cardio. It translated to I can see yeah, So like pretty much a lot of my friends, especially lineman, Yeah, we just went to wrestling right after the football season. 00:10:38 Speaker 3: That's saying about ballerina class ballerina. Yeah, have you heard have you seen that like for for ballerina class. Yeah, like dance class. A lot of a lot of NFL linemen take in the off season, take dance classes for their like dexterity and their their balance and all that kind of stuff. And I mean like big dudes on one foot doing the shows. 00:10:56 Speaker 1: How to do one A pure a? 00:10:59 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure a pure a. It's like when you just whip up some ketchup babies, right and your pro. 00:11:08 Speaker 4: Everybody, like all the kids that was like big into wrestling, like their parents would send them to gymnastics. Yeah, so if you wasn't if wrestling with your main sport, then your parents knew he was gonna do that for a long time to send you the gymnastics flex flex flex. 00:11:23 Speaker 1: On ain't state champed, that's that's that's as far as you can go through your state champ match. I want to know. 00:11:29 Speaker 4: So when I got to my senior year, I think I was well, I pretty much went undefeated my senior year. I lost once to a guy from Birmingham Spain Park. But like, but you could get him right now, Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know what he's doing. He's probably in some account job. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: Put you I feel like wrestlers turned into accounts. He's probably more like a mechanic or something. 00:11:52 Speaker 4: He probably might be to get you a country music star you was. I mean, he's from Birmingham, so who knows where he went to. He could be a count or something, take job or so. But what was I saying? Yeah, my junior year, I lost to the prior state champion what was his name, Nick Boyard or something from state Scottsburg, Alabama. And after I lost that by like a one point or two points, I kind of I quit football my senior year man just to focus focus. My Papau ended up training me that whole summer. 00:12:22 Speaker 1: He liked it that much. 00:12:23 Speaker 4: I liked it that much, and it just it just pissed me off that I lost by a point for sure, and my papall training, my coaches training that summer. I came like like twenty pounds. I swear it was just pure muscle, but it probably wasn't. But I came at my senior just just ready to kill anything. Yeah, and then my bro I was just rolling through everybody that whole sits Get give me the next one. 00:12:45 Speaker 1: Yeah. It was pretty crazy, man. So I don't know. I forgot the guy's name, but yeah, my senior. 00:12:51 Speaker 4: State match, it was not it was nothing really, I was just chilling really well. It was five A and I beat the sixth A state champion at a tournament in Hoover, So I beat everybody in one ninety five in the state of Alabama. 00:13:07 Speaker 1: So five A for me, it was not the breeze, Yeah it was. Yeah. 00:13:11 Speaker 4: My biggest competitors was six A like Hoover Spain Park, the guy I lost to, so I didn't have to work like I was. 00:13:19 Speaker 1: We were just chilling. What is it more of? Is it? 00:13:22 Speaker 3: Like it's strength and technique, right, so like like which one ways more? Would you rather be stronger? Would you rather be better technically sound? 00:13:30 Speaker 1: I think I think. 00:13:31 Speaker 4: I'd rather just be strong, Yeah, just because look something my coaches gave me, Coach Pike and Coach Campbell, Like I was always pretty strong, so like they taught me the fundamentals and just harp it on it. 00:13:44 Speaker 1: Like every day. 00:13:45 Speaker 4: I would just just keep it simple and strength will help you throughout the rest of it. I Mean I knew technique, you know what I mean, but like just the basics. 00:13:54 Speaker 2: Yes, So if me and Reid were to get down here and wrestle. What would be the first piece of advice you would tell us, like, hey, make sure you do this. I literally know nothing about the sport except that you kind of tie up and then try to get behind them and throw them at the brain the circle. That's all trying to get them on their back, right them on the back. Okay, So what's the first. 00:14:15 Speaker 4: I think we're standing up, because all wrestling matches start with standing up. I think I would just keep a good foundation, don't be on the balls of your feet of the heell, just stay solid, just like if you was like. 00:14:27 Speaker 1: Athletic stands. 00:14:29 Speaker 4: Keep your hands low beneath your knees, make sure like if nobody's ain't trying to go in for a single D or double edged. 00:14:35 Speaker 1: And then if you get on bottom, I mean. 00:14:37 Speaker 4: Just just don't let them get your wrists. Really, yeah, watch just wrists and ankles. That's I mean, that's pretty much it. 00:14:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds dope. So should we go? You should do it right now? 00:14:52 Speaker 2: After after should we go? I don't know my shirts A little time. 00:14:58 Speaker 1: With your Yeah, I'll stand up right now. 00:15:01 Speaker 2: Here's what I've always said about uh, size and strength over technique. 00:15:07 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. 00:15:09 Speaker 2: I was a guitar tech for Luke Combs and we we had this thing going for a while where we would talk about I think we were watching an mm A fight or something, and it was when what's your name? What's the girl's name? The one uh Rawsey yea, Ronda Rousey was on there. They're like, dude, how long do you think it would take for you in the ring for her to knock you out? 00:15:33 Speaker 1: I was like, she wouldn't. 00:15:36 Speaker 2: He was like what what? I was like, Bro, she's like one hundred and ten pounds. That was three bills at the time. I'm I mean, I think if And they're. 00:15:47 Speaker 1: Like, oh, we gotta set that up. 00:15:49 Speaker 2: We gotta set so for the rest of the tour, they were like made fun of me about how I couldn't take Rond and I'm not. First off, it would never happen because I'm never gonna fight a girl. I'm never gonna fight even if even if Luke and all his magic famness set that thing up, I would never do it. But what do you, I mean, do you think there's like one hundred and ten pounds girl out there boxing that could like take you, I think so you do, think cash, I don't even know. 00:16:17 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know you. 00:16:19 Speaker 2: But I just watched that Katie Taylor and Manisterano fight. 00:16:22 Speaker 1: I didn't watch all that. I watched some of it. I know I get it. I don't think. I don't know. Man I get it. A wrestling match, my money's on him. 00:16:29 Speaker 3: But just a straight up stand up boxing, a boxing match like where you can't use where was the UFC? 00:16:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, say that's difference. Yeah, yeah, boxing makes it a little different. Yeah, if it's just boxing, that'd because they could, like they probably fast, They probably. 00:16:49 Speaker 3: One shot to the temple, little right hook where it's over lights out. 00:16:53 Speaker 2: For any of us who think so, yes, I don't. I don't think they're I don't know talking about I don't know either. That'd be I'd be fun to see run the stout. 00:17:03 Speaker 1: She thick. 00:17:03 Speaker 2: She is thick, bro honest, see yeah, but she's not one hundred and fifty pounds thicker than you know what I'm saying. I'm one hundred and fifty pounds thick ofitar. 00:17:17 Speaker 1: Here. 00:17:17 Speaker 2: We can't start talking about we like to do this little thing. Oh gosh, what you mad? 00:17:30 Speaker 1: Just tell us what it is? What you mad at? 00:17:34 Speaker 6: Is it? 00:17:34 Speaker 7: You in on house? 00:17:35 Speaker 1: Kids might be your boss man, or your neighbor's cat. Just tell us what you mad? He got Yeah, he got it. He got it. Oh he's a real life singer. Uh, I'll start start. 00:17:53 Speaker 3: I'm mad at the the I'm just gonna say I had it, the noravirus, and everybody out there should be mad that. You should fear it, you should respect it, and uh never get it in your life because it is the devil, the devil gut it's it's the devil's it's the devil's gut. 00:18:11 Speaker 1: Bug. Dude, this is worse that you got that gut bug. You got that gut bug I did. 00:18:20 Speaker 3: I had it for about five days, and let me tell you, son, I lost twelve pounds. 00:18:25 Speaker 1: It was never it was not fun. 00:18:27 Speaker 2: It was that twelve I would take that twelve back pounds back in a heartbeat if I called. 00:18:31 Speaker 1: I called Era sa. 00:18:32 Speaker 2: All that after a couple of days of him having it, you know, and he said, uh, I said, man, how bad was it? He was like, I tell you this, if I felt like that all the time, I would want to I want to die. Yeah, He's like I don't even want to if I felt, if I. 00:18:44 Speaker 1: Knew I had like that, it ain't no way to live. I'm telling you it ain't know. I mean, that's crazy. 00:18:48 Speaker 4: I've had something like that for like over a month. Oh yeah, I was doying in Columbia. 00:18:55 Speaker 2: And uh, you know to be you mean like south here here thirty minutes. 00:18:57 Speaker 5: No, like like yeah, someplace to be for SI, I. 00:19:08 Speaker 1: Was you on the depot? 00:19:12 Speaker 4: No, it was in South American Real Watching, and they tell you when you go down there, you shouldn't drink the water because what were you doing there? I was down there with the military and it was like building a Uh it's been in a school for the natives of Columbia, and in Real Watcher there was like, don't drink the water. Okay, we didn't drink the water, but we went out and the food that they cleaned, they cleaned the food with the water. So and they get you get something called volcano booty and you're supposed to get yeah, you're supposed to only get it for like one week mile turn into a whole month of just goodness. I lost like twenty pounds. I was on a concrete pour and I almost myself time. It got to the point like I was like using the bathroom maybe like ten times a day. Oh dude, sometimes you just that's raw ass booty. Oh my miche could be a best friend. 00:20:07 Speaker 2: Man, Volcano. I'm pretty I didn't have no virus. I just have volcano. I'll see what I'm mad at, man, And I need some help on this. My wife's got a nice dresser. It's nice dress It's not nothing crazy, but it's like a nice dresser in the bottom drawer. 00:20:29 Speaker 1: Will not stay here. It doesn't matter what I do. It just like I just a little. 00:20:38 Speaker 2: Slide out about six inches perfect like ankle killer length, you know what I'm saying. It just fly a little bit and I'll push it up in there and it'll stay for a second. Have you taken uh, have you taken it out and see if there's anything behind it. It's one of those that you sock. You can't really take it out. 00:20:56 Speaker 1: You can't. 00:20:57 Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's got the tabs on the side, but they're plastic keeps, and I feel like if I pull them on the side a little rail thing that they're gonna break. So I actually bought some magnets on and I'm thinking I'm trying, but then to that point, it's to that. I mean, that's like, I mean, our house is tiny, so like we have narrow little walkways to. 00:21:18 Speaker 1: In like two o'clock in the morning. 00:21:20 Speaker 2: If I had volcano booty or something, which I haven't, and I'm. 00:21:23 Speaker 1: Kicking, i'n all this wood in there there. 00:21:25 Speaker 2: And I'm catching that, uh you know, drawer on my ankle at two thirty. 00:21:29 Speaker 1: That's rough. 00:21:31 Speaker 2: A mean mad night man. That's that's what I'm mattering. I'm really mad right now in my house. 00:21:37 Speaker 1: That's real life mad. 00:21:38 Speaker 2: Everything's clean, drawers out six inches right now, I promise you it is. That's what I'm mad at. You mad anything? What am I mad at? You can be glad at something too. 00:21:51 Speaker 1: I got you. 00:21:52 Speaker 4: Well, I say something, I'm glad at he goes there, you go, keep it positive, keep it light. I'm glad for he bought you at the time being I haven't got volcano yet, but I don't know. 00:22:04 Speaker 1: We went out the hibachi last night. He was taking shrimp. Guy. I am I it steak, shrimp and chicken. Oh get all three? Okay, that's different. But what I hate is they don't give you enough rice. 00:22:16 Speaker 4: I don't know why they be stings with the rice and then from the time they give you the rice and the rest of the meat the rice. 00:22:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guarantee rice ain't there. Ain't the one thing that they're lacking in those places. No, Like, I'm sure they got plenty of them. 00:22:31 Speaker 1: Long did you say that? Because I mean, rice is a plentiful thing. They supposed to have lots of rice. Who is Who's they? Who's saying that? The high Yeah, the CEO. That's probably the cheapest thing on me. You like pile it on? 00:22:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, dude, the sauce makes it so good for me. It's just the color, the color and the texture. 00:22:59 Speaker 4: I'm just like, nah, what's even in you? Young sauce? I still can't figure that out. The girls A thousand islands? 00:23:07 Speaker 1: That's good islands? Is it plural? No? 00:23:10 Speaker 2: But what's give us the great ingredients? 00:23:15 Speaker 1: You don't like. 00:23:18 Speaker 2: Mayonnaise, ketchup, tomato paste? I mean I hate three of those five things. 00:23:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, isn't that thousand islands? Pretty much? It's just one island, I think, is it? Yeah? 00:23:32 Speaker 2: But I mean it makes just to say thousand islands a thousand islands. A thousand islands, it doesn't grammatically make sense. 00:23:41 Speaker 4: So the dressing is just like a thousand islands. Yeah, there you go, a thousand dollars. 00:23:45 Speaker 1: You like islands? 00:23:45 Speaker 4: Your hold up my whole life. I'm start saying, you know what else I've been saying my whole life. That's my favorite dressing. 00:23:50 Speaker 1: Pickle wig. They would do vaena sausages. What do you say voina sauce? So we say viena? What is it? Eni is Vienna. 00:23:59 Speaker 4: I almost got into a fight with a dude my first month in the military because I brought some voinas. 00:24:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like fishing. I eat voina sauce exactly. Period, did a little saltine on it. Just till this place now and I be technically no, it's viina. 00:24:16 Speaker 1: I'm vying until I die. 00:24:18 Speaker 2: I'm so glad I found some other people that come from the same cloth. Man, I'm gonna start calling thousands thousands for the rest of my life. 00:24:27 Speaker 1: I might say thousands. There's thousands of islands, be singular. 00:24:31 Speaker 2: If there's a thousand of a thousand islands. I love you so much already give us a. 00:24:37 Speaker 3: Little bit of just a little bit of growing up and uh, kind of like all the shoes you've you've worn, you've you've like, I mean, you've been a state champion wrestler, you were a firefighter. 00:24:49 Speaker 2: Mt kind of mercy thing in the Navy. Kind of kind of give us a little rundown, a quick rundown of like growing up, where you grew up and and how you got into some of that stuff. 00:24:59 Speaker 4: So I grew up in a little town. Go ahead, when I grew up in a little town. Now, but I'm called Elix City. Where's it at. It's like an hour north of Montgomery. Okay, you never been to Auburn University, So I'm like thirty minutes from there. So we got a big lake there called Lake Marning, and that's kind of like the main thing of Elex City. Also Ben Russell, which is the high school. We're pretty good, I guess. 00:25:20 Speaker 1: And say Lake Martin. Lake Martin is there. Yeah, that's a good fishing lake. 00:25:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, college is there. That's what senior as. It's a lakehouse and Brooke College. Oh so that's pretty cool. 00:25:30 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:25:30 Speaker 4: So I group around a lot of that music, a lot of and to my town, it's like a little bubble, like if you don't you don't really have to leave my town. So for the longest time, I never even left my town because there was nothing I needed outside. I mean, we went to Montgomery every now and then, just because they go to the mall and stuff. 00:25:48 Speaker 1: But what was I talking about? 00:25:51 Speaker 2: Why why you were or where you're from and why you're doing it? 00:25:57 Speaker 4: Yeah A thousand yeah, So I mean for me, it was just nothing. Just grew up just like everybody else from a little small town, nothing else going on. I played sports, addicted to music my whole life and just loving. 00:26:14 Speaker 1: It or are you back then? Pretty much everything man, like I was. 00:26:18 Speaker 4: I wasn't saying I was a loner kid, but like I love to just be by myself and music was like my bestest friend. If I wasn't at football practice or wrestling or helped my pap walts and stuff like man, I had just headphones in my ear and at the time, man, I was listening to a lot of a lot of gospel stuff, a lot of blues and stuff. Because I grew up in the church, I got deeper influenced by gospeling blues and country music and folk music was always around me because all my buddies would be listening to it, and my buddies got me to a lot of that stuff. Trying to think of what else I was listening to. I'm super curious. 00:26:55 Speaker 1: I do I got two? 00:26:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got an older sister and a younger sister, Tina and Journey. 00:27:00 Speaker 1: That's cool. Shout out, shout out, shout out. Uh, yeah, what gospel were you listening to? Do you remember? It was a lot to grow up on hymns? I did, We did too. Yeah, I have like got me over? I don't know that one. Yeah, what's that one? It's like, was it got me over? Reggie over? Big through this baby Lane went in congregation? Come on God, God, that's tough. Yeah. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: Now we would do things like come sure, blessings, parking. 00:27:31 Speaker 1: Lot getting paved. 00:27:33 Speaker 7: What God has done? I can count too many blessings. 00:27:40 Speaker 3: Uh my son came home from college. 00:27:44 Speaker 1: Uh what's yeah? 00:27:46 Speaker 2: That's anyway. You would say count your blessings. At the end of it, you would say a blessing, and sometimes they get a little wacky some old time, so people would like, let's play count. Let's play count your blessings. Right now here we go. 00:27:57 Speaker 3: You have to say the first one when you say when we sing at your blessing, somebody's gotta saying, all right, you go first, you go second, care blessing. I ain't got a volcano booty no more. 00:28:10 Speaker 7: See my god, cacho blessing. 00:28:17 Speaker 1: Thankful to be alive today. 00:28:19 Speaker 2: This is like something get up there, blessing. 00:28:31 Speaker 1: My figur nas going back. See what. 00:28:39 Speaker 2: Billy Joe Kennedy shout out, well, pastor from music, pastor from thirty years ago. 00:28:50 Speaker 3: Man, did you like our church? It was very it was very stale like that. Not not necessarily I want to say statue. 00:29:00 Speaker 2: I don't want to say stell, but it was it was like it was very like this thing, you know, like and we we used to go on uh, we used to do these choir tours and we would go around the South and go to these different churches. And my favorite times we ever, like, my favorite churches we ever went to were predominantly black churches. Man, because we got down. It's that stickiness it is man's it's the soul it is. It's like they don't have the a no, and nobody cares like nobody like nobody cares what they sound like. Everybody sounds good, but like nobody cares what they look like. They don't care what they sound like. 00:29:31 Speaker 3: But they're just gonna like get up and sing and dance and praise Jesus and. 00:29:35 Speaker 1: And and it's gonna break out. 00:29:37 Speaker 2: The spirit's gonna break out, man, And dude, I used to love and I was I was a like a special guy sing a bunch of what we call the solos or whatever. 00:29:47 Speaker 3: Dude, I used to love getting down in those churches. Man, there were some of my favorite They get up on stage. Y'all get up on stage and play music with us, and god, it was fun. 00:29:55 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. Did y'all do that? Did y'all do a lot of playing? 00:29:58 Speaker 1: Like? Did y'all have a bands? 00:29:59 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:29:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, we will. We got down, Like I'm so surprised. 00:30:02 Speaker 4: That, Like I don't know because i haven't been performing that long, but I'm so surprised. I don't dance like I'm James Brown because in my church, like it was just we had some of the best performances. 00:30:13 Speaker 1: You should, man, should get down. 00:30:14 Speaker 4: I think one day I'm gonna just break out. Okay, don't be alarmed if I start jumpsuits and stuff just starting to dance on James that record three and four. 00:30:24 Speaker 2: When my favorite, one of my favorite memes is when he comes up to the mines ill sweat, he's got the town. 00:30:34 Speaker 1: It's like me. 00:30:35 Speaker 3: It's like it's like coming up from like three day vendors. 00:30:39 Speaker 1: Like he was crazy. He was insane man. 00:30:44 Speaker 2: But his performance, I know he he was on that. He was on that stuff. That good stuff too, is soft. His teeth would just be. 00:30:55 Speaker 1: The Holy Spirit? What uh? What? What was the decision like going into the Navy? What made you? What made you want to join the join the military and do that thing? 00:31:04 Speaker 4: So, yeah, I was working at my local fire department shout out chief and Calser and the guys there. So I was doing a lot at this time. I was probably in the fire department maybe a year, and it was getting around that point where you was, you know, you got to start thinking about going into you know, going to get your vance MT or start thinking about like, okay, what how can I further my education in the fire department type of deal. And I was in a lot of transfer to like U a B. Of being to Birmingham, and like I was always interacting with the nurses and every time I went to U A B. I was like the whole er department was just like these he's fine ass nurses. I was like, how can I get closer? I'm so sick. So I get back from that and I just start thinking about it. I was like, man, I sell my buddy at the department like Brinsky and emails working there. 00:32:00 Speaker 1: I said, bro, I think I want to be a nurse. 00:32:02 Speaker 4: I don't want to come work at ub or like in Auburn and something. He was like, man, you got to go to school. I was like yeah. And then I talked with my chief and he was like, yeah, man, I'm on the military that pay for it. And also I just want to get out my town too, because again, my time is like a little bubble. 00:32:20 Speaker 1: Man. 00:32:20 Speaker 4: You get, you get, you stay, you stay in that town. You just some people just don't never leave. Yeah, And I just wanted to see the world, connect with more people, and yeah, I just joined the Navy. 00:32:31 Speaker 1: It was one of the coolest decisions I ever made. Really. 00:32:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really cool, man, just the baby, just to see the world and places I thought I would never even be. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: Is there anything that sticks in your mind that you saw and you were like, man, I want to go back here. 00:32:43 Speaker 4: I think that deployment to real watch in Columbia volcano volcano as bad as it was, He's gonna take some bottle of water. I don't know what happened, but yeah, that time here, man, we built the whole school from from scratching a matter of two months. 00:33:02 Speaker 1: Wow. We saw the beginning process. 00:33:04 Speaker 4: We duck the first first hole and yeah, we put the last ten on the roof. 00:33:09 Speaker 1: We put the desk skin. Wow, and uh that's real work too. 00:33:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, like like not like that's real physical work, but it's real, like like good work like you're doing you're I mean, you're building a school for kids, man, Like that's that's that's rewarding. 00:33:22 Speaker 4: It felt so good. We put the sidewalk in. We poured the sidewalk the day before the the army came in and everybody came into reporters to talk about and kind of the grand opening, and it was just such a cool time. I think the only thing that stood out too from that depointment is like we poured a concrete in the next morning, we got to just to check out, and there was already Dick Dick drawings on it. 00:33:43 Speaker 1: I said, I know, damn, well, get here in the concrete was like butterfly. That's not It's hilarious and not shocking at all. No, like I get it. 00:34:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure. Uh yeah, kids, drawers, they're easy to drop. So what about in Alabama? Did you do any hunting fishing while you were there? 00:34:19 Speaker 1: I fished a lot growing up. 00:34:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, I fished for a lot of briam because I always loved breakfast for breakfast. 00:34:26 Speaker 1: You never had bread for breakfast. I mean you have, but. 00:34:29 Speaker 2: It cooked the night before. You know what I'm saying, Bro, bring them up for breakfast. Tell me how you do it? Yeah, you Flaila, That's what we did. We always pelley ours. I know a lot of people cook them whole. They'll just got them a lot of time. 00:34:41 Speaker 4: My Papa would do it just whole, but a lot of times most of the time. 00:34:44 Speaker 1: It's a sounds like he was a big influence in your life. 00:34:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we you just put it on top of a biscuit, get some grits, some eggs. 00:34:52 Speaker 1: Bro, it's like the best. I don't know, it sounds I want to try. 00:34:55 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try. I mean I always did it that. We always cook ourse. We have Like my dad loves catching eight. I'm talking about fifty brim and having everybody over. 00:35:04 Speaker 1: When I mean in May. That's what that's all he does. It's just brimfish. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: But all he does every week he goes catch as many of as many as he possible. 00:35:12 Speaker 2: When I think about my favorite some of my favorite days with my dad, a lot of them have to do with brimfishing, right, all write songs about it all the time. Just bob just that damn yeah, barber cricket for hook with the long chaft. Yeah, just talking about vein of sausages. 00:35:27 Speaker 1: That's when. That's it. We also used. 00:35:31 Speaker 2: Mostly crickets, live crickets, same or and it kind of felt like like nobody knew that trick, Like everybody was trying to use worms or or different things. 00:35:41 Speaker 1: But like crickets, man, live crickets. It's over with. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: Go, get you a couple of tubes at the shop. 00:35:47 Speaker 1: Smoke them. They just eat them, put them on a barber, throw them out there, leave them. Is over. That's some of the best time. 00:35:52 Speaker 2: So when you bred them, so you got your fillate, your fillate, you you fill at your brim, take it completely off the scales of the bone, and then what's your go to, like, how do. 00:36:01 Speaker 1: You hook it up? 00:36:03 Speaker 2: I don't know what we usually flower or are you a flower of cornmeal? That's when I think it was cornmeal most of the time. Little, I don't know what my mama used. 00:36:13 Speaker 4: I always call my mama about instructions about how to cook certain things. 00:36:17 Speaker 2: Tonat we tap a little tony sat, Yeah, a little spot. 00:36:21 Speaker 1: It was daily seasons for sure. Okay. Yeah. 00:36:23 Speaker 4: She never tells me the ingredients for nothing. Really, no, she just keeps it a sick I I called the one day. I was, y'all never had those salmon patty meats patty in the morning, So I called up for. 00:36:36 Speaker 1: Fish in the morning. 00:36:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like, oh, you just got to come down and see. I said, my mom, I'm like three hundred miles from you right now, trying to eat something, trying to eat, trying to cook about it. But yeah, it's a real thing. 00:36:49 Speaker 3: I think like moms and grandmoms, they don't want to give you a lot of recipes because they want you to come and visit them and them cooking for you. 00:36:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a nice tactic. It works, ain't no doubt. Yeah. 00:36:59 Speaker 2: I love some brown crappie you a croppy guy. Eat much crappie, not much catfish. Oh yeah, cat bass. We eat ass. 00:37:06 Speaker 1: I'm honest. People don't like that, but we do. We eat them. You know, you eat bass. Yeah, if they're if they're under a couple, you know. 00:37:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're ripping bass out all the time just to get them out of get them out of the lake and. 00:37:17 Speaker 1: Try to try to grow trophy bass. But but yeah, you. 00:37:19 Speaker 4: Know what, I haven't seen it right because for me, most of my life when we went to we had this restaurant called Big B Barbecue and they had the best whole catfish. But like, I left my hometown in my first I got stationed go for Mississippi. 00:37:34 Speaker 2: My wife's from go for It, shout out go for She is guff for though she doesn't even put it for. She's like guff for coast trash ever a bottle of wine? 00:37:44 Speaker 1: What's that. 00:37:47 Speaker 2: For? Thousand islands? But no restaurant down and has like whole catfish. Yeah, I know, it's kind of a fleeting thing. I feel like back in the day it was a lot more prevalent, and now it feels like it's all and they only give you like three little filets. 00:38:05 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:38:05 Speaker 3: One of my fani One of my favorite restaurants ever is is I. It is close to our hometown in West Tennessee, little spot called Hagey since a little log cabin on sits. 00:38:15 Speaker 1: On the river. 00:38:16 Speaker 3: I got a bad report about it lately. I'm sure I had everything. Everything's changing. They're probably trying to save money. But uh, they used to do all you can do whole catfish, the whole catfish. And that's what they do is they bring those pound to pounds and a half catfish and they put five on a plate, them out size, and you all you could do is just you just scrape off that scrape that meat off that whole catfish, eat the tail like a chip, lay it to the side, eat it. 00:38:41 Speaker 1: Start another one. Dude. 00:38:42 Speaker 2: We gets I mean yeah, fish bones everywhere. 00:38:47 Speaker 1: They have their homemade tartar sauce. 00:38:49 Speaker 2: They had homemade I'm talking about about this damn being game, right Gas, and I haven't had nothing like that since I left my Well, you gotta come down and just us do a fish fry. We can do that, bro, I've died. We can do that. We'll do it. Mean fish a fish love that. Yeah, it'll be fun. I mean, I love whole cap. I'll take whole cat over fil A. 00:39:11 Speaker 1: Any day the week. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Fiddlers, fiddlers. 00:39:15 Speaker 4: Did y'all have like those road fish fries, like people like set up on Saturday Saturday morning? 00:39:20 Speaker 1: We did them? Yeah, yeah, we would do them. Just drive by, just parked the car. 00:39:24 Speaker 2: No, No, I did not have that. That sounds like a fruit stand, but a fish. 00:39:28 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:39:29 Speaker 4: You go through the you go through an off side, which was the projects in alex City. 00:39:33 Speaker 1: And then even if. 00:39:34 Speaker 4: You go by the barber shop like that be fish fries. You just go get fried fish. 00:39:37 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:39:38 Speaker 2: Pay, I'll be six hundred pounds, bro, it'd be my six hundred pound life, six hundred pounds fish fried. But it was drive through fried cafish. I'll be done. 00:39:52 Speaker 1: Eat it every day. 00:39:55 Speaker 2: Give me some hot sauce, a couple of hush puppies and French fries. Later I'll catch on out of here about sixty five. 00:40:02 Speaker 1: And they behold too. 00:40:04 Speaker 4: Put it on some sandwich, bread and mustard and ketch up, hot sauce. 00:40:09 Speaker 1: Gas fire. Just give it to you can't holding up no more. Tell us about your your duck hunt experience this past year. Yeah. 00:40:19 Speaker 4: So my first time going duck hunting was it was it January? Yeah, yeah, it was in January, and uh me and my buddy Cole. 00:40:27 Speaker 1: He took me down at this spot. So it's near the delta someplace. Yeah. 00:40:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where all the that's where all the ducks are. It's Delta rivers or something. 00:40:35 Speaker 1: And it was a great experience. Man. It was really cool to get out there. 00:40:40 Speaker 4: And I killed the dough earlier that day, well the day before, and then the next morning we woke up to go duck hunting. It was super early, man, it had it been like two or three when we woke up. 00:40:51 Speaker 2: Did you did you do like boat through the wood? So you did the for real? 00:40:56 Speaker 1: I was deep in it. We never did that growing up. I mean we didn't either. Yeah. My Paul didn't take me. No, ours didn't either. I was lost. 00:41:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I almost. To be honest with you, it's pretty sketchy sliding through them them trees at four thirty in the morning. Man, God, just fly to man. I'm big guy. My waiters get wet, y'all ain't pulling me out, you know. I don't know if they got four driving boats or not. 00:41:21 Speaker 1: The boats or not. But they ain't getting me out. 00:41:23 Speaker 2: I think anybody duck hunts is just so cool. Yeah, we've been going recently, but it's. 00:41:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty. 00:41:30 Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty swank. 00:41:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, and all that have you have you done? Start doing that duck calls and stuff. 00:41:37 Speaker 1: We go a little bit, right, you're gonna do the one thing you can do. You do it here. I don't know how to do it. 00:41:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, just let's see what happens. Shoot, we should have left. 00:41:45 Speaker 1: It was a joke. Yeah, go nuts that. I think we can work there green. 00:42:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, the great ways you can do about like that. 00:42:09 Speaker 1: No, I'm not good either, honestly. I just have it there in case anybody's good at it. That was pretty good. Was that decent? No, you get there with it. 00:42:19 Speaker 2: It's all about the decoys, anyway, get there with It's all about the decoy. I mean, honestly, we don't know. We're not duck hunters. I mean all we do is this stuff like, uh, what you do with your dad? Did you cook it up? 00:42:32 Speaker 1: Uh? 00:42:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it processed. Oh yeah, man, I ain't got it yet. 00:42:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about time. Yeah, Well it's done. 00:42:40 Speaker 2: I just haven't got it lead ship the cooking. 00:42:46 Speaker 1: That's good sausage and oh yeah we got this. 00:42:49 Speaker 2: I got like this pineapple lapino type of a breakfast sausage. 00:42:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we ate that day. We was duck hunting that morning. 00:42:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it ain't nothing, I think after even though I didn't kill nothing that day, you know, just being in the blind with the dudes and just talking as the sun is rising. 00:43:09 Speaker 1: That duck hunting stuff. 00:43:10 Speaker 2: For me, I enjoy that part of it more honestly than the shooting of the ducks. I just like hanging out and doing the thing, and you know, it's fun. It's fun trying to figure out calls and all that. But yeah, the camaraderie of it seems to be the most exciting thing to me. But I mean, I don't know, it's pretty fun shooting them too. 00:43:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I like doing it. How y'all do it? 00:43:31 Speaker 3: I Like, I like getting out in them, and I like sitting in the water against a tree. 00:43:36 Speaker 1: Like the swing stuff is fine. The blind stuff's great. 00:43:39 Speaker 3: But I'm just like, all, you know, we didn't grow up doing it, but but grew up like more intimately hunting, you know, like like deer and stuff, and so that's if I humago duck hunting, I want to be I want to be in it. 00:43:51 Speaker 2: I won't get much A bunch of ducks, A bunch of ducks get shot. 00:43:55 Speaker 1: No, they didn't know. 00:43:57 Speaker 4: I think we got close, but nobody brought anything to go to our spot. We didn't do anything to. 00:44:02 Speaker 1: Go with this. We'll get you over there. I got a hunt, all right, dude, you're Grammy dot Com. 00:44:07 Speaker 3: Twenty five artists to watch, twenty five Apple Music Zane Lows twenty five artists to watch twenty five Billboards February twenty twenty five Country Rookie of the Month, Martin Artists Showcase Class Aubry Next Stage Class twenty twenty five. Amazon Music Bompfire Watch twenty twenty five Pandora artists to watch. 00:44:24 Speaker 1: Bro Is it a World? Is it roll? Tie? Is it a whirlwin? For you? Did you? Did you? 00:44:30 Speaker 3: Kind of like, I mean you didn't even start playing the guitar till five years ago, or really the music thing period, like yeah, did you see yourself here? 00:44:38 Speaker 1: No? 00:44:39 Speaker 4: Okay, No, I just I just let the music just take me. I was just like I'm just I just really love music and I didn't know how far it would take me. I just kept just kept singing songs I love and started when I started writing songs, I just started writing songs I love. 00:44:58 Speaker 1: I just kept going. I just kept being myself. I was just like, I'm just being myself, honestly. So when you when you met, when did you start? 00:45:06 Speaker 3: Like when when you're like, all right, man, I'm gonna learn how to play the guitar and I'm gonna, you know, maybe find some covers I like, start playing those, I start playing some gigs. 00:45:14 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:45:15 Speaker 4: So I was deployed out in Rolla, Spain with the ceab's the Navy. We was out in Roada, Spain during twenty twenty and we was there for maybe like a week, and I just thought this the poem was gonna be the craziest European party store of my life, you know. I thought I was gonna get that work hall, but play even harder time of Hill. So we did that the first week and then I though, I remember we came at that Monday in Italy had shut down the world, and I was like, bro, ain't shut down Spain. It's too lit out there, bro right now. We having too much fun right shut that down. And then I think a week after that, my buddy found a guitar. 00:45:50 Speaker 1: For up in the barrets, just found one, just found one. 00:45:54 Speaker 4: It was like old Yamaha the guitar, and I just literally I got in my room and I was just so bored at my mind. I just went back to music like I always do, and I started looking up like Marty Schwartz videos and I looked up covers, just just learning them for the first month, month and a half. 00:46:09 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:46:10 Speaker 4: And then when I finally got the confidence to you know, get out and about. So for every Friday, Saturday and Sunday, since we have nothing to do, we pretty much do these big bonfires, and everybody across the whole Navy base find out because he beees the routedies, rowdiest like group of guys. It's just a whole bunch of Southern Construction Battalion. So we kind of like this. The CEB's are nothing but Southern dudes. Midwest guys grew up in ranching communities. 00:46:37 Speaker 1: They can build stuff. Yeah, just down home type of dude. 00:46:40 Speaker 4: So everybody always wanted to party with us. So we threw these bonfires every Friday and Saturday. Because you couldn't leave base. And one night my buddy was like, you should just bring the guitar down to the campfire of the bonfire. 00:46:53 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know man, that I but I did. And then people was just telling me like, bro, like what do you This is insane? 00:47:02 Speaker 1: Bro, He's just can you play this song? I was like, yeah, I can go learn it. 00:47:06 Speaker 4: And then it got to the point where people was like giving me Saint Gria to learn a song. 00:47:11 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:47:12 Speaker 4: So like each Friday and Saturday, I would just go out there play the songs that was requested last week, people give me a bottle sat grid for the next week, So that whole week I had a whole week to learn a new like five or six new songs about alcohol? 00:47:25 Speaker 1: Was your motivator? 00:47:26 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you're just playing little gigs at. 00:47:30 Speaker 1: The back yeah. 00:47:31 Speaker 4: I mean at the time, it was like one hundred, one hundred and fifty people maybe at the times, and. 00:47:37 Speaker 1: They loved it too, just to have something to do. Yeah, we couldn't leave base, man, Like there was you couldn't. 00:47:43 Speaker 2: Talk about that. Man, What was that like? I mean, did you feel just like like in a cage? 00:47:50 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:47:51 Speaker 2: I mean I bet that was nuts if you couldn't leave. 00:47:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 00:47:54 Speaker 4: It was kind of rough, man, I can imagine it was nice because the next was giving like twenty do so, like they dropped the price of alcohol to like so you get like a bottle Apple crown for like twenty dollars. 00:48:07 Speaker 2: So at the time, it was like, what are we all doing during the day? 00:48:12 Speaker 4: Nothing learning songs, learning songs, like because we couldn't work. 00:48:16 Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying, you couldn't do nothing. You're in another country, You're I mean, you're in a bass. 00:48:20 Speaker 4: I mean it would have been different if we were on like an American bas probably would have got around a whole bunch of rules totally in road of Spain. You're on a Spaniard military base, so you got to follow that rule. And even when we was partying, we didn't. We wasn't supposed to be partying, right, So a lot of times the Spanish government or the Spanish police would like bunt up. Yeah, they would pull up in like binoculars, like in the woods taking pictures. We get up the Monday morning, our commanding coob like what are these? 00:48:51 Speaker 2: They just shows photos of us like parties and stuff. That keeps playing songs for Saint Grand. 00:48:59 Speaker 1: All. 00:49:00 Speaker 6: You know. 00:49:00 Speaker 4: It was just we just started getting watch out so people just stay and watch and just see if a police car come up. People standing in the woods, just make sure nobody was out there. Yeah, we take shifts and stuff. 00:49:10 Speaker 3: That's so you kind of just brought that to the States, like you didn't want to stop. 00:49:14 Speaker 1: You want to keep playing when you got to the States. 00:49:15 Speaker 4: And yeah, so I left that deployment and I got back and my buddies was like, man. 00:49:19 Speaker 1: I think you should start doing open mics around town. And then I started where were you at? Then go for it. Yeah. 00:49:24 Speaker 4: I just got back to go for Mississippi. So I was like doing gigs from like Biloxi, Oh yeah, you know, Ocean Springs, a little. 00:49:33 Speaker 1: Bit of mobile stuff. 00:49:34 Speaker 4: So I just started doing cover stuff open mics, and I got picked up by this cover band, this southern rock band. They needed a guy that could sing old school blues and could also sing like Skinner stuff, Alburn Brothers, ZZ Top stuff. 00:49:48 Speaker 1: So I was like I could do that. Yeah, So I went on. 00:49:51 Speaker 4: We we pretty much did a whole bunch of bars from northern Mississippi into Mobile, New Orleans and then I just left that. 00:50:00 Speaker 1: What was the name of the band? Should I say, should I give him clout? Oh? No, you don't have to. 00:50:06 Speaker 4: It was like Blackwater Value or something. That was a good group of guys. But what I wanted to do something. I wanted to add sacks to the band, and I wanted to add a whole bunch of newer country songs and newer stuff, because there was always they wanted this, not all of them, it was just one member they wanted just I asked, like, can we play this newer song? He was like, no, We're going to stick to the fundamental skinner this and that. I was like, that's fine. But at the time we was about to move into college territory and I wanted some newer freshing up. You can keep keep a little bit of whooping posting there. But they add a little christ which Christian song just. 00:50:50 Speaker 1: To be your man? That's one? Would it be? 00:50:56 Speaker 2: You know what Christian song? I loved here? It says remember that some voices his first one of his first man he crushed what's my dancing good that day? 00:51:09 Speaker 1: Yeah? That is first one. Want to be a man? 00:51:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I want to be Yeah, It's only man. Yeah, I think my favorite Christian song it's probably like a was it blue Skies don't seem so blue? 00:51:28 Speaker 1: Made Me do it? 00:51:28 Speaker 4: Stars seem to be a little dim too, seeing so and the Stars seem to be a little demo to. 00:51:51 Speaker 1: Not in your around. It has of course same. Let me break it down because. 00:51:59 Speaker 4: What I say, no bound kiss me like you and you. 00:52:07 Speaker 1: Kiss me girl, you rock me all the dance home, Downtown News, what a little wars. But I didn't not have cool. 00:52:19 Speaker 4: I never found an anything that makes me feel like I knew it. 00:52:25 Speaker 1: Bad You you jam? 00:52:29 Speaker 2: That was the one that the one you was That's hot, That's hot. I was like, sh I forgot about that one. That whole Neon album is like my favorite Christian. 00:52:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. He just was killer vocal, killer, god, he's killing. 00:52:49 Speaker 2: So when was uh, when were you like, I'm going to Nashville, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna go I'm gonna do this thing. 00:52:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, so at this point I would say around. I got out the service in twenty twenty two, and and I didn't. 00:53:00 Speaker 1: Really know what I was going to do. I thought I got into the service. 00:53:03 Speaker 2: To bro It was like three years ago. Yeah, yeah, Okay, it's been a little quick for you, a little quick for it. Okay, when you got it, you got it, stay hot, do not search. 00:53:22 Speaker 1: I really don't know. But I got out the. 00:53:26 Speaker 4: Service in twenty twenty two, and you know, I came into the service thinking, you know, I want to see new places, meet new people, and you know, get free education, go to nursing school. Well, at this point, I still after the nurses. 00:53:39 Speaker 1: Bro. I was, I don't know, that was the whole that's the whole plant. I gotta get back to. 00:53:45 Speaker 2: Ok I gotta go to I gotta be a nursing over it is my life. You go, that's funny. Okay, So you get out, you're still trying to be a nurse. 00:53:56 Speaker 1: No, I didn't want to be a nurse. Oh you're out. So I'm out. 00:54:00 Speaker 4: And I was like I had all these gigs set up for the next year around the bars, and I had contracts with like you know, hard rock, the board. 00:54:08 Speaker 1: So I was doing like casino. 00:54:10 Speaker 2: Gigs and this is your own band, this isn't. 00:54:12 Speaker 4: Yeah between my own band, and I had like trio gigs and duo and solo gigs. So I was like, I guess I could stay a running for another year. That year ended up being a year and a half, and then by the end of the year and a half. At this point, I was just I don't know. I felt like I was I had done so much around the community. I played every venue I've done, every private party I've done. I felt like I knew everybody, but it felt like I wasn't going nowhere. I felt like I was like, is this it? I mean, I mean, I was making great money. I love the community, I love the coast, and I was like, but is this it? I thought, you know, I would transcend a little bit for sure. And one day I was at a Margaritaville and somebody came up and just at this one, I was like hung over. The next day, I was doing like a brunch of deal and some kid came up and asked me to play some song, and I was just like, I'm kind of tired of this. I went outside, got in my car. I didn't cry nothing, but I was just like, bro, what am I doing? 00:55:13 Speaker 6: Yeah? 00:55:13 Speaker 1: Yeah. I went home and I just started thinking about, like, I'm finish out of the rest. 00:55:17 Speaker 2: Of these gigs, and didn't. 00:55:27 Speaker 4: I just lost man. I was just like, man, I love what I'm doing, but I need something music. 00:55:32 Speaker 1: Listen. 00:55:33 Speaker 2: Music can do that because when you're when you're learning your chops and when and when you're figuring out the business, uh, you feel so far removed and you're like, how do I get out of here? How do I get out? I mean I did the same thing. I was in the cover band and covered and played everywhere and everything. Everybody thought we were awesome. We started moving in some of your originals and people are like, okay, cool, but can you. 00:55:54 Speaker 1: Play Steve Miller band again? You know what I mean? 00:55:56 Speaker 2: Like, so you and you're like, how do I how do I reach the next thing? 00:56:02 Speaker 1: Right? 00:56:02 Speaker 2: And if you don't have anybody going hey man, this is how you do it, it feels. 00:56:07 Speaker 1: Like an unattainable task. 00:56:08 Speaker 2: I have been I have literally cried in my car and a mark in a McDonald's parking lot eating a twenty piece at the same time, you know what I mean, Like, because you're just like, well, here I am in Oxford again, making. 00:56:20 Speaker 1: Playing a library. 00:56:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, playing a library, making eight hundred bucks a man, like, it's good money, and you got bills, so you can't quit paying your bills. You kind of just have to either just like go, okay, I'm moving and trying this thing, or I'm staying here and a lot of people stay there, man do the Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of my buddies still playing music Misissippi. 00:56:41 Speaker 1: And that's it's. 00:56:41 Speaker 2: Comfortable, right, It's just what you want to do if it just depends on what you want to do. I wanted to do something else, you know, and and so I'm doing We did something else, and you are too, man. 00:56:51 Speaker 4: Tattoo, because like you said, I still have a whole watch of my bells that's still on the coast. 00:56:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, rocking that they're making a great living. Sure, there's nothing wrong with it, no nothing. I just felt like I was like. 00:57:03 Speaker 1: I just I feel like I need to do something more. 00:57:05 Speaker 2: So how did you get how'd you What steps did you start taking? I think a lot of our listeners would be interested to make the move, to make the change me. 00:57:15 Speaker 4: After I left Margueriteville and cried in my car, Yeah okay, I seem like a cry. 00:57:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd be crying. All you said, I ain't said at once. I don't know what I mean. 00:57:31 Speaker 4: From now, Like I had a whole bunch of other gigs for the next couple of months, and I just knew I had to finish those. Yeah, So I kept going to them and each night I would come back drunk, you know, and just getting through them, just trying to get through it, and like, I just started writing songs every time I got back. 00:57:46 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:57:48 Speaker 4: Used to be like really late nights. I just try to just come up with anything. And those are the moments I started writing my first songs. I was at the middle of twenty twenty three, and then I was talking to my little sister and she was like, you need to get on TikTok and Instagram because I was never like a social media do growing up. Yeah she was right, she was Yeah, she was right. Shout out, shout out my sister. 00:58:08 Speaker 1: Journey. 00:58:10 Speaker 2: Yeah that's an appropriate name as well. Yeah, yeah for what you went on a little bit of a journey. 00:58:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:58:15 Speaker 4: I always had this idea for a little bit that me and my sister's gonna start a band called. 00:58:20 Speaker 1: Cash Cash Is this journey? Oh yeah, I thought that would have been so cool cool. Yeah, she can sing up. 00:58:32 Speaker 4: But she told me to start getting on and I just started posting stuff. I went out and got a mic what else. I got some like some lights and stuff. I saw somebody having lights to get good lighting and stuff, and I just started recording and I was just like, I was like, if I don't give this a try, like my all, which means social media, all of it, posting trying to get to Nashville, like I don't know how much long I'm gonna be alive. I was like, I have to give this my all because I don't want to be down the road and just be like I could have should have did this. So I just gave it my own, and you know, a month or two later, I finally got known with the rest of the gigs. I was back home in Bama and I posted this one cove in my mom's living room, which was mexxed up kid by. 00:59:16 Speaker 1: Tyler Jeeters, and it blew up. 00:59:19 Speaker 4: But it was not like it was just crazy numbers for me at the time, and it got the attention of some labels in New York. 00:59:26 Speaker 1: Wow. And it was. 00:59:27 Speaker 4: At that first moment when I was in I was in New York, you know, for a meeting, my first time in New York City. 00:59:33 Speaker 1: I just thought like, damn, music got me here, you know, and then. 00:59:37 Speaker 4: From there I met I met my now manager Jay in Nashville, and I decided to move to Nashville to start writing. 00:59:45 Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, you seem like a well obviously through your store, you're a very self motivated human man, and I think you kind of have to be because the steps you take don't necessarily always make sense. But you know something inside you was telling to take that step right, whether it's buying a freaking light for your TikTok videos or posting something. 01:00:06 Speaker 3: Or just start learning the guitar, start writing a song, totally just getting things out, being a creative. It's a great story. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. So what's next for you? You released some music? What's the Broken Wing Burken Wing Bird? 01:00:18 Speaker 1: I love that one? I like you kill? 01:00:20 Speaker 2: That was great. I was driving, so I didn't have time to look at who. Who's the female singer? Sierra Farrell? So yeah, yeah, she's great. I didn't know that's who it was. Man, that's all. 01:00:28 Speaker 1: She's amazing. Man, Man, who hurt you? Got me? Dude? Got you? God live? Man? I mean, what is it? 01:00:35 Speaker 2: Cigarette hanging from a busted lip? Like that first line? I was like, okay, yeah, this guy. I mean, that's legit. Tell me where that song comes from? So my I started kind of it. 01:00:47 Speaker 4: It came from I come to sleep one night and I was journaling some stuff. I had a friend of mine, good friend of mine from while back, told me start journaling. I thought she was crazy, but I started journaling not too long ago, and and helps the song I did, yeh. And I woke up the next morning had to write my buddy Mark, he was also in the not the navy, but he was in an army. And we was in my aunt's kitchen table in my aunt's kitchen, and I showed him what I was just putting in my journal, you know, like some I know what you're doing in those deep places and stuff like that on. 01:01:20 Speaker 1: The lines of the song. And we just finished the song today. Wow. 01:01:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, where did busted lip? There was that somebody in your head? Or the cigarette hanging from a bus that had a busty lip in the wall? I have too, but I never smoked a cigarette with one. 01:01:34 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:01:35 Speaker 2: God, yeah, that's that's a great picture. It's a great image, you know from I mean, I've written probably over two thousand songs in my life, and uh, it seems like whenever I hear something like that that's fresh, like I've never heard and I've been a connoisseur of music my entire life, and I never heard that said comes from a raw place. And when that happens, it just kind of like awakes awakens this thing, and I'm like, oh man, there's still stuff out there to say. 01:02:04 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I feel like we've all been there before, Like just like when I talk about Margeritaville, and then I would have another gig that next later a couple hours to Margaritaville would be like a brunch deal if it's a Saturday, and then you would do the late night gig. So I show up, start setting up for the late night gig, and then you just you already kind of drunk. 01:02:22 Speaker 1: Bro oh forre, just like this a gig. 01:02:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you got four hourstuff and even if you're taking you know, shot here and there and a beer every thirty minutes, by the end of the night you hammered. 01:02:34 Speaker 1: Ain't got to get home. 01:02:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, And my buddy one time I told this story. The other day we had played cow Bells. It was a four hour gig. We started at twelve o'clock. Damn played till four. We were so tired. We went through this McDonald's and just ordered some stuff. He was like, man, just pull in that parking lot, pulling that spot right there. We pulled it in the parking spot, didn't even make it through our McDonald's and slept until six thirty. All woke up and the sun was coming up, and drove us home and he had like French fries. Shout out, Jamie Davis, that's my guy. We had a fun country band and we toured all over the place really and yeah, and I know that life, man, I know that life. And if you live in the city that you're doing it in, it's okay. But when you're trying to do Nashville and trying to do gigs. 01:03:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't imagine that. Man. It was a lot. I knew when I got here. 01:03:31 Speaker 4: I was like, I couldn't do the Broadway stuff because I've grown out of it. I was like, I'm gonna get here, yeah and work construction. Yeah, and I'll just try figure it out. I mean, I was lucky that when I got here things started was rolling for you. 01:03:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you used social media, I mean you used your playing, you used I mean that's a great avenue. It is a great avenue right now. You don't have to just be out there busting it and get the attention of some guy in California to get a deal anymore. You can do it from your living. It's crazy, man. Yeah, I'm glad it worked for you because the music is great, dude, brother, Yeah, you sound awesome. 01:04:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real words songs. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. I think it's gonna work a lot for a long time. 01:04:14 Speaker 3: Lords will You've got to go on the road with Leon Bridges and Dealing, Gosship and Whiskey Myrs. 01:04:19 Speaker 4: So I got done with Leon and oh I think we have a couple of dates with Dealing. Yeah, we got more dates with Dealers. We got dates with Sarah Farrell coming up. White Floor is Yeah, more dates of Whiskey Myers. 01:04:35 Speaker 1: I love them guys. And then in the fall we got Darris Rucker in Canada. It'll be awesome. You've been to Canada. Yeah, I played in Canada Cold Bear and the Falls, So damn it's gonna be nice. Yeah. 01:04:48 Speaker 2: I told Darius team I'm a cosplay them every night. Yeah, he should catch you off guard? Yeah, keep on his toes. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. What song would you sing with Darius? 01:04:59 Speaker 1: Is you look at me? We come from different worlds. Don't maybe do it? Don't maybe do it? Look look at me? You look at me. You gotta that you're right? Look at me? Or would be that a letter cry Sits a long bout? How is he playing those songs that it's at the shows? I think he is. 01:05:35 Speaker 6: The one. 01:05:42 Speaker 1: Is not far but let's see letter cry. 01:05:50 Speaker 6: Sis fall down ry letters. If it is all, let a walk right. 01:06:06 Speaker 4: Out of me. 01:06:08 Speaker 1: And if the song comes on tomorrow, cry. 01:06:18 Speaker 2: That song and so long that hooty stuff. I didn't played it the one man. That Hoody stuff was Gas. 01:06:23 Speaker 1: It was good. Yeah, it was good. Your stuff too, man, he's a straight up bars Yeah that's that one. QUI at me? Yeah you're just laughing men, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, anyway, Hoody shout out hood who do nor left till dude bump? I only want to be with you straight Gas? 01:06:54 Speaker 2: Huge hit too, I mean like huge, worldwide, huge hit. That was all that stuff was. That was one of my first like CDs. I remember having that CD. 01:07:04 Speaker 1: Really Yeah, that was. 01:07:05 Speaker 2: The most biggest selling band of that year. Right, Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. It was an absolute takeover. And then when he crossed over the country, he was so smooth because he already sounded country. 01:07:17 Speaker 1: Well, dude, where do you see yourself for five years? Man? Ten years and ten years? Yeah, how old you be? Like? Eighteen? Mother? Now ten years, i'd be thirty eight? What thirty seven? 01:07:32 Speaker 4: You're just rolling right now, Man, you're just rolling ten years man. Probably hopefully Adam did so many albums. I've crossed over into so many things. Yeah, I've riaded some screenplays, some TV shows about the South kind of like the Grassy but make it southern. Oh yeah, you know, down home type of that would be a great show about the great show. What's the Grassy? 01:07:59 Speaker 1: Was it de Gross? You know that Drake Drake was in there? You know? Yeah, but they always did like some some weird l a county type of deal. It was never the South. Yeah, it was never the South. I get down with that. Yeah, what would what would what would it be called? Was that? 01:08:15 Speaker 2: What was de Grossei? Was that somebody's last name or something? 01:08:17 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:08:18 Speaker 2: I think what was it was the name of the high school, the name of the house. So here it would be like Hardin County High. Yeah, like that would be dope. 01:08:26 Speaker 1: What was your what was your school name? Ben Russell? Yeah, Ben Russell High. Yeah. 01:08:31 Speaker 2: Let's do it, man, I don't trying to jump in on other people's good ideas. 01:08:34 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, maybe like have a ranch or something. Come on, I can like do duck calls. Do you think you're a duck guy? I want to be a duck guy. 01:08:47 Speaker 2: Cash calls, Man, call cash calls is pretty. 01:08:52 Speaker 1: Well that. I think the sky is the limit. Man. 01:08:54 Speaker 3: I think you're you're You're awesome, dude. You obviously got the world going for you. Man and grass on everything that's happening. Thanks, thanks for coming hanging. 01:09:02 Speaker 1: Out with us. This has been a blast. 01:09:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I appreciate you. Appreciate your hanging with us for fun. We'll have to, uh, I have to write a little bit. 01:09:10 Speaker 1: Bro. 01:09:10 Speaker 3: Let me know, we we do a thing to close out the show. Favorite song, greatest slash favorite. I know we talked about one earlier. 01:09:19 Speaker 1: What is it for you? For me? I know it's really difficult to pick a favorite song of all time from Oh it's super. It's almost impossible. It's really impossible. 01:09:29 Speaker 4: So but for like right now, I would say I'm gonna do a Bama Boy Hank Singer. 01:09:35 Speaker 1: I'm so long Sime, I could cray? Can I have my phone? Yeah? Oh bro, ain't your daddy? You're definitely not daddy. You the widest one I got your daddy? Uh you really? 01:10:01 Speaker 6: Yeah? 01:10:10 Speaker 4: It along somewhere will be signed blue Flies. 01:10:22 Speaker 1: Let mean n Chang He's whin. I didn't know. I'm so long song my cood cry. 01:10:35 Speaker 4: Him name was saing nine soul long and time goes crawl in by them move just when behind Cla Siti his face same cry. 01:11:05 Speaker 1: Did you? Let's see right in when Lee begins to die, blame me do. But I'm so so to your voice stupid. 01:11:32 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something. Here's the thing with your voice. It's kind of like, Yo, you've ever ridden to Bentley dirts? No, not written with Bentley red ridden in a Bentley Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I have not, but I assume it's a very smooth rod. Yeah, it's like having a Bentley on like a gravel road. Like that's what your voice is like. Because it's mega smooth, but there's also like this little rough thing that's kind of going, this gravelly thing that's happening. I'm just telling you, man, it's very special. It's very special because it's a smooth ride, but it's also got a little grease on it, and it's beautiful. 01:12:14 Speaker 1: Man. 01:12:14 Speaker 2: You got a great voice, dude, Thank you so much. And you ain't even better dude. Man, I'm glad to meet you. 01:12:19 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming. We got you a little present for coming on. Little with the COVID. 01:12:24 Speaker 2: You kill that singer, by the way, he'd be very he'd be proud of you singing, not me playing, but you sound you sound great. Check them out, check them out, Thanks for. 01:12:32 Speaker 1: Coming on, Thank you. Do I opening they fit? Do we actually get him? 01:12:38 Speaker 6: Some? 01:12:38 Speaker 1: These are size thirteen, size thirteen, Why big sauce. 01:12:47 Speaker 2: We'll get we'll get well, they don't fit, we'll get wise. They say about people big boots. I don't know, volcano booty. We're big socks clean damn look good. 01:13:00 Speaker 1: Shout out to COVID. Yeah, man, that for sure. This is gorgeous. Good glad you like them new boots? Man, God, this good? Yeah, this moving man, Thank you. 01:13:12 Speaker 2: Good to have vanilla stuff, whatever it is. Yeah, I'll let y'all do it offline. 01:13:16 Speaker 1: I'll let y'all know it. 01:13:18 Speaker 3: Hey, man Cashius Cold Pepper. Go check out his tunes, Go check him out on the road this fall. This guy's a real deal. Appreciate you hanging out with us. 01:13:27 Speaker 1: Pete Baby, Can we come to the show. We'll come to the show up. Yeah, it'll be awesome. Thanks for coming, Man, God's Country. We'll catch you next time.