00:00:00 Speaker 1: I'm Eric and I'm Michael, and this is. 00:00:02 Speaker 2: White Tail. 00:00:13 Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone, white Tail Bones, Episode three. 00:00:16 Speaker 1: Can't believe we're here. 00:00:17 Speaker 3: I know it's been a month, so Tyler says, which we have a very special host today, the guy who's been yelling at us to get another podcast out. 00:00:29 Speaker 4: Everybody, everybody thinks Tyler is just such a cool guy. And then behind the scenes, he just you just gave it away. He just he's just a boss, that's all he is. Man, Tyler Jones is our host. 00:00:44 Speaker 1: Nothing. 00:00:45 Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that. Man. 00:00:46 Speaker 4: He's a little, uh, he's a little afraid of the white tail of the podcast world. 00:00:51 Speaker 2: Man. Hey, it's okay. Yeah, Hey, thanks for having me on the show. Guys. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. 00:00:56 Speaker 1: Man. 00:00:56 Speaker 5: I'm really glad that y'all are doing one back by pop demand. It's crazy how the audience had to tell y'all to do another one. 00:01:03 Speaker 2: Man. Yeah. 00:01:05 Speaker 4: Actually, Cassie Smith did tell me to do another one. 00:01:08 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:01:08 Speaker 4: She said, Michael, you have a voice for radio. I said, I don't think that's a good thing. But they said a face too. 00:01:14 Speaker 1: She did not say she did not say a face. 00:01:19 Speaker 6: Uh. 00:01:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm glad to be here, guys. I'm just just honored to be on the white tail bumbs pot, the bum life. 00:01:26 Speaker 2: I've been there. 00:01:26 Speaker 4: Before, but I think we got welcome to the boom life in the fast couple of years. 00:01:31 Speaker 2: I feel very boom right now. Boom tired. 00:01:34 Speaker 1: M Yeah, that three forty five alarm this morning was not a very fun one. 00:01:39 Speaker 2: No. 00:01:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to hear about this because I got a text at seven twenty mm and it said it's seven twenty and we still don't have two guys in the stand yet. 00:01:51 Speaker 2: No, it was terrible. 00:01:53 Speaker 1: It was. 00:01:55 Speaker 4: Tyler said we had a worse morning a couple of days ago, but I think today might have been the worst mornings I've ever had. 00:02:01 Speaker 5: Is a part of the animal I was more frustrated in that other morning. Yeah, this morning, I think my expectations were lower. 00:02:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can get that. 00:02:12 Speaker 4: When you're walking in and the sun's rising behind you, just not a very good feeling, though, like you're just kind of freaking out trying to figure. 00:02:18 Speaker 5: Out the one thing that set up. It's tough for Casey and I. I think we've actually killed a lot more bucks since we have split up and there's a lot of reasons, but one big reason is he and I could literally talk all day about anything. Oh yeah, and so like we will plan. We'll be like, I, you know, twenty minutes for this, Let's do fifteen for that. Oh, actually, let's do another five. Let's do twenty for that, because you know something's gonna happen. Let's add some time there. And by the time, you know, we're like, all right, we got to get up at three forty five, we got to leave at you know, four fifteen or whatever time. And by the time we get done like talking, when we get out to get in the boat or get you know whatever we're gonna do, like when we get in the truck and we're like looking around or I'm loading my stuff in his truck or whatever. We started riding together, Man, things get really tough. I thought it was very interesting last night. We were all sitting around doing the math of when we need to get up, and at some point we got to like a four four ten or something in casey like, we went and redid the math and somehow it got to four twenty. I'm just not sure how we got that extra. 00:03:29 Speaker 1: Couple of minutes. 00:03:30 Speaker 5: Well, because he just came up with a number and it was I'm gonna wake up and leave. 00:03:37 Speaker 2: So yeah, it just so happened to be a like random number that was close. 00:03:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm sure they got set up in a pretty good time, but we had to walk. 00:03:46 Speaker 1: So did they drop you guys off first? 00:03:49 Speaker 5: No, we went in the same spot. We went two different sides of a slough or buyu or whatever you want to call it. 00:03:55 Speaker 2: And uh boo and uh it's ale bio. 00:04:04 Speaker 5: It's the side that they hunted was right near the boat, pretty close, and our side was like, I mean, it was at least I never measured it under six tenths straight line. I saw some seven's in there. I bet I wasn't being super accurate, but you know, we probably walked seven tenths of a mile pretty easy, like walking in through all the stuff, and it was, you know, I had to cross a couple of like feeders to that bayou and stuff, and it's just yeah, the main reason that we were getting in so late. I did my first interview at seven fifty two. 00:04:39 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:04:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, I never climbed up the tree and immediately had. 00:04:44 Speaker 1: To put an NDE filter on in the morning. 00:04:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was crazy, without saying much about where we are right now or anything. We got into a tree, or we got to a tree that I thought was going to be the tree we need to get in, and it's you know, if we'd gotten this tree been hunting at a pretty decent time, it wouldn't have been bad. So, like it's big at the bottom, but it's you know, it narrows out a little bit. So I've got these tethered one sticks and they've got am steel ropes on them that are pretty long. I like it a lot, like they're probably at least seven foot ropes. And so I get this thing, the first one, Like I have to go up high. This is a this is kind of a trick I've talked about on the podcast before. But I have to get the I have to get the first like on some of these bigger trees, it won't go around at you know, wist level. So I go up above my head and it's it's thinner up there at you know, seven foot. Now I can tie that on. And add I always carry a three step eight er, so I dropped this three step eighter off and I mean about there, go to the ground there, there's probably four foot of. 00:05:49 Speaker 2: The am still guy me. 00:05:51 Speaker 5: I don't even know if he's making stuff anymore not, But those aiders are really nice. 00:05:55 Speaker 4: And I don't want to say the brand that of stick we were running before, but those aiders will like pinch your foot if you're in a rubber boot. 00:06:04 Speaker 1: It is hard to not. 00:06:07 Speaker 3: Foot size the size of the tiler as you definitely. 00:06:09 Speaker 4: I don't know how he can even get up in them, but those ones, it's like a square, so when you put your foot in, there's no like getting stuck yea, like trying to get your foot out, almost falling trying to get your foot out. 00:06:20 Speaker 5: And I appreciate those old aiders too, because the like when you need them, you need them. Yeah, So, I mean I appreciate them, but like it's handy just to have it come out, you know, and be there. But yeah, yeah, So we we go up first stick and I go essentially an eider like a three step eight er plus four sticks and I go. I get all the way up. We're probably like we're at least sixteen foot if not higher. I don't know, you're up there. Yeah, I get up there and he sends me a platform like, he send me your platform, and I take our platform and I put it around the tree. And this tree did not thin out very much. And I dude, I'm talking. I had the rope maxed out and it literally was two inches from going on there. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: In fact, did I'd get it on at some point on there? 00:07:14 Speaker 1: No, you never got that one on that, So no, I did you did? You did? 00:07:19 Speaker 2: How did I do that? 00:07:20 Speaker 4: You like twisted it to the side and then put it on there, and yeah, just got it on janking. But then I was down at me and you went and I was like, oh, this is not about to be good. This is something bad just happened. Yeah, it's there was no tail on the strea. You were like, I just I can't get any more tight. I do not feel good about it. 00:07:38 Speaker 5: I was hoping I could like fingertip pull that tail out a little bit and tied it down, sent it down, and I could not get the tail out because it was just that close, I mean, And so I was like, this is just not safe, man. I mean we could sit there and be you know, locked into the tree with Limon's belts and all that, but like, it still just doesn't feel good when your platform gives out and you start falling down the tree. 00:07:58 Speaker 4: You know, it's also really different when you're twenty foot up instead of six ten, Like, yeah, it's a big difference, and if you all. So, I set up a platform, four sticks, and a three step eight er and decided we should not sit in that tree. So we tore the whole thing down. Michael's like moving stuff while I'm tearing stuff down, and we rush over to this other tree is fifteen yards away. It's not the ideal tree. It's got a lot more limbs on it and stuff that are kind of like little limbs that are in the way more than anything and kind of make a lot of noise with leaves on them and stuff. It's a oak tree, but it's a little bit smaller. And anyway, long story short, we get up there, but it takes you know, we were not settled and ready to shoot a like opening interview in the tree until seven fifty two. 00:08:56 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, because I've set in a lot of trees with you. What up, Casey and Greg? Yeah, Tyler's making us But back to my question, No, I sat in a lot of trees with you, and a lot of them are complicated, but you also pick the right tree a lot of the times, So like, what what are you looking for when you're trying to decide the right tree? 00:09:27 Speaker 6: I have an announcer for everyone. 00:09:30 Speaker 1: My wife thinks white tail Bums is awesome. 00:09:33 Speaker 5: We well, I mean it just depends, you know, like there's there's a lot of experience that goes into that probably, but I think there's also like something we've talked about on the podcast for but creativity is something that you got to look at too. And then as far as like choosing the right tree, I don't know exactly what you're asking, but you maybe asking just like picking the. 00:09:55 Speaker 3: Right one, you just take your time, like choosing the right tree. Yeah, And I know a lot of guys are just like I'm just gonna sit in that tree because it looks good. But you take your time when you do it. 00:10:05 Speaker 5: I do, in my opinion. I mean if I if I hunted by myself, it would be different. It wouldn't take quite as long. But you have to do you have to look at where all the limbs land and think about yourself as a right hander and how you're gonna get shots as a right hander. A lot of people don't understand, but like they will. They will, you know, put a lighter stand up facing directly where they want to shoot. It's like, if you're right handed, you got to square up your left handed you got square up the opposite way. Like, but you cannot just be facing and pull your bow back to your sternum, you know, So you have to square up, just like if you're gonna hit a baseball. And so you think about that, see where your platform will land, if it's going to be straight in that section that your platform is. And then I usually try to put my cameramunt on my right hand side, and so I have to think about his situation, if he can get in there on a close level with me, or maybe slightly higher. Sometimes you end up a little bit lower, but not always. Most of the time it's even or a little bit higher. And then does he have shots? 00:11:13 Speaker 2: You know? 00:11:14 Speaker 5: Can he video from that too? And then also just like how much cover is this one god compared to that one? How many shots? One thing that a lot of people do wrong, in my opinion, also is they'll set up in a good tree, but there will be a big bushy, you know, crown of like a smaller tree that is, you know, it starts at six foot up and goes all the way up to fifteen foot and it's right next to the tree that you're sitting in, and it's like you can't really shoot off of it. You can't see over it or through it, you know very well, Like when you've got leaves right in your face, you just can't see through that mess very well, so you can't see you're coming from that direction. So I like to pick trees that have don't have other trees beside them too much. I don't have any blind spots, you know. So that's I mean, that's kind of generally my thoughts. And then I just think about wind and stuff like that, and you know, the wind is perfectly advantageous for you, it's probably not probably not the best. You want to pick something that, like you feel like the deer are going to move because they have a decent wind at some in some direction. It's not like on their tail, even though they will walk in on their tails, definitely will from time to time. But that was a light wind too, you know, I mean so switchy. Yeah, it's not like a just fifteen mile an hour at the tail. 00:12:39 Speaker 4: So I would definitely say your camera guys, I would say, definitely, one of your camera guys really appreciates not having bushes in front of them. 00:12:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, where's hardwoods? 00:12:55 Speaker 4: Don't be making that face, Casey facy when it is open hardwoods. It is camera guys just best dream. Oh, it can't be any better. But dude, don't like it. No, raccoons do though. 00:13:09 Speaker 1: Raccoons definitely, Dude, I can't wait for people to see the nag. 00:13:12 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I heard you got some sick raccoon footage. 00:13:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if the element has better raccoon footage. 00:13:19 Speaker 5: I don't know if people. Dude, it's gonna be awesome. I hadn't seen it. I mean, who knows. Might be out of focus, but no, it's in focus. It's very in focus. 00:13:27 Speaker 3: That reminds me. Uh when I was editing fresh Oh no, I Casey said something about across what was that about? 00:13:42 Speaker 1: What was that about? 00:13:44 Speaker 5: Listen, dude, dude, dude, Northern people say crossbow, do they? 00:13:51 Speaker 2: I didn't know, Okay, I didn't, never mind, No, you do not. 00:13:54 Speaker 4: It is crossbow. It's not a cross bow. No, it's not across the bow. Even though I guess it kind of does go across the bow across. Yeah, no, it makes a cross. Okay, you're done with this podcast. 00:14:10 Speaker 3: We also have Greg just walked in, Greg and he wasn't on the last white Tail Bow. Does he need to get my headphones? That's what I'm thinking. Maybe we take a break here and get Greg Greg because he's got some things to talk about. Hop the Hop wants you to hop on the podcast. Quest Thanks for joining though, Hey, thanks for inviting me. Thanks for the question, Michael. 00:14:31 Speaker 5: I hope, I hope you can get that inside out shirt off and gives you a shower and y'all don't have to do this much longer. No, all right, what's up? 00:15:02 Speaker 3: Greg? 00:15:03 Speaker 6: I'm here. 00:15:04 Speaker 3: It's been a while since the last time you're on this. 00:15:06 Speaker 6: Yeah, been a little busy. 00:15:08 Speaker 3: You've been hunting like pretty much all November. 00:15:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, surprisingly, Like. 00:15:13 Speaker 3: How many days were you hunting your property? 00:15:17 Speaker 6: I went down there the first time and I probably got to hunt five straight days. As you know, as a cameraman, I did not expect to get to hunt five of the like premiere hunt days and you know, the first part of November. 00:15:34 Speaker 3: But you had some good days though, right. 00:15:36 Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw a lot of bucks, but I haven't put in the work on my property to like set it up to be like really huntable for the rut. Like I've got a couple of feeders in a couple of setups, but it just like I have no trees like prepped to like just hop in the saddle and go hunt. 00:16:05 Speaker 1: So there's not a lot. 00:16:06 Speaker 4: Of trees around from what I remember. I mean there's a few here and there, but it's a lot of it's a lot. 00:16:10 Speaker 6: Of thick like cedar, and like there's some live oaks, but I mean unless you like getting over the chainsaw and like cut some sugar. 00:16:18 Speaker 3: Is that what makes the turkey? Uh sit up in that one tree? You think? 00:16:25 Speaker 6: Yeah? 00:16:26 Speaker 1: He yea. The word wrote the roost tree. 00:16:31 Speaker 6: They liked. They liked those live oaks right there on the edge there and they. 00:16:35 Speaker 1: Can dude, he was roosting in the same tree every time he would roost on Greg's property. Was awesome. 00:16:42 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was We're talking about a turkey I killed and this past spring and I think that video will come out this spring spring. But that was pretty cool. Casey got to film that one in. 00:16:55 Speaker 1: Case he just took over from where I started. 00:16:59 Speaker 6: But anyway, the yeah, the property is not really I haven't done much work to set it up for bow hunting, especially during the rut because I have a couple setups on feeders, but other than that, it's kind of hard to hunt. 00:17:14 Speaker 1: So did you hunt mostly on feeders or in between, like trying to work movement going to feeders. 00:17:22 Speaker 6: Yeah. On the first trip, I was I was mostly just trying to get where I could see. And I got up in the tree that I killed a buck out of last year, and it's one of the few trees that you can like get up and I like that tree because you see a lot but you're not really intruding too far and messing things up. 00:17:43 Speaker 1: Access is real good on that tree, so I can just like. 00:17:46 Speaker 6: Hop out there, get up in that tree, and I can see some stuff and I can slip out without messing up. 00:17:51 Speaker 1: To when we were turkey hunting, obviously it was in the spring, so it's you know, a little different minds. 00:17:57 Speaker 4: We there were deer going everywhere. I could I believe all the deer that like we were pushing out of there. I was like, Dad, gummt, Greg, you got a spot over here. 00:18:07 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been the last couple of years have really picked up there because like my neighbors like quit hunting m and the last couple of years I've I've started to feed all year long on the feeders. So I'm trying to hold deer all year long and it seems to be paying off. 00:18:25 Speaker 1: Are you primarily throwing corn or what are you throwing? 00:18:29 Speaker 3: Uh? 00:18:30 Speaker 6: Throwing? I got three corn feeders and every once in a while, this is my secret, but I guess I'll share. 00:18:38 Speaker 1: It exclusive Greg right here. 00:18:41 Speaker 6: Every time I go and fill the feeders, I'll you know, I'll dump a bag of protein pellets on the ground, and the deer, for whatever reason, they hammer that stuff even after they're done growing antlers. Interesting anywhere from the lead up to the rut, they just the mature box just hammer that stuff. And in October it's a good way to kill one. 00:19:07 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:19:09 Speaker 3: So last year when you shot that buck, I was just wondering a little bit ago. Was that your first deer you shot out of a tree? Yeah, that's what I thought, because you do a lot of ground hunting. 00:19:20 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I got a saddle, you know, joining the element, and that was the first deer I've ever shot out of a tree or out of a saddle. I shot the deer out of a tripod. Yeah, that's kind of like the Texas brush country thing. 00:19:36 Speaker 1: That you could definitely see a tripod being real nice on your I wish I had like five or six. But you need a tripods bons for real. 00:19:44 Speaker 6: I can't. I can't find any of the good ones. Like they used to make these, like really good tripods like in Texas and you find them, But now you got these like kind of cheaply made ones. They're like academy or whatever, and you got to assemble it all yourself and it's all these different parts and pieces. 00:20:03 Speaker 3: So how many shooter bucks did you see that first week of November? 00:20:08 Speaker 6: First week I saw probably four to five that I would shoot on that trip. I was kind of trophy hunting a little bit because I knew i'd get a chance to go back around Thanksgiving, and I thought that would be my best chance to shoot like a giant dude. 00:20:29 Speaker 1: I lose track of how many shooter bucks you have on property there? 00:20:33 Speaker 6: All day it was like today was like today was wild. On the trail cameras there was a buck lockeddown with a dove for like four hours. 00:20:40 Speaker 1: Golly dang, the Moultuary app was literally just the Greg home Property app. I solid five weeks. We had to make those smart folders. Yeah, seriously, you got to keep. 00:20:58 Speaker 3: But you went back on things Thanksgiving and what happened there. 00:21:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, I on my property, I try to shoot a buck before Thanksgiving because it kind of gets a little tough. Like I feel like our rut peaks around November seventh and eighth, and you'll see some like hit and miss activity throughout the rest of the season. But for whatever reason, historically I've killed bucks on or like the day after Thanksgiving like a lot. Now it might just because I'm up there during that time, but I've killed like four or five mature bucks on those two days. 00:21:45 Speaker 1: I feel like it might be and this is just me completely spit on, but the rut kind of winding down. 00:21:51 Speaker 4: I feel like they're just coming right back to those speeders and just really yeah, not concentrating per se, but sort. 00:22:00 Speaker 6: Of Yeah, and that that definitely plays into it. And I was reading this study h while I was there and got least studious and uh, you know, there's a Texas Hill Country like study of like rut dates and the far, like one part of the Hill Country like peaks around seventh and eighth, and we go a little further out and it's like it's around Thanksgiving. Then you go a little further out, it's like early December. Well I'm kind of right in between some seventh and eighth and some November twenty fourth, So I think I have a little overlap of do text rut activity. So I think it's like seventy thirty on my property, Like seventy percent you know of the rut happens on November seventh and eighth, and gos you know thirty percent is on Thanksgiving because I always see some pretty good activity around Thanksgiving. 00:22:51 Speaker 4: For whatever reason, I've never been so confused about like when the rut is until I moved to Texas. Yeah, it gets places, it's normal dates. Sometimes it's around Thanksgiving, sometimes it's in December. 00:23:04 Speaker 1: It's like what is going on? 00:23:06 Speaker 6: Yeah, it gets complicated like in the South. 00:23:09 Speaker 1: But I guess that's what happens when your state's the size of countries. 00:23:12 Speaker 6: So you could literally in Texas hunt the rut from September to January. 00:23:18 Speaker 2: It's insane. 00:23:19 Speaker 3: It seems like if a good cold front just comes through. They just they just do the rut thing. 00:23:24 Speaker 6: It seems like, Yeah, if you're close to the rut and you get a cold front like it, it goes crazy snaps it. Yeah, and that's what I saw on the first trip. The first trip was insane, Like there's like one day I saw like a buck every hour of the day. 00:23:38 Speaker 1: What were the like, what would a cold front be in the Hill country? Like temperature wise, I. 00:23:46 Speaker 6: Mean any kind of like just fifteen twenty degree temperature drop, even if it's from like eighty to like sixty. Like I can remember days in October some years where like it'll drop from like being low nineties to like seventy all of a sudden. Seventy five is like the high and that will get the bucks like a cruise and spooky. 00:24:08 Speaker 3: So Michael, let me ask you this. Oh, No, since you're from the Midwest, sometimes I get thoughts when it is just really cold. Yea, Sometimes I wonder is it too cold for deer to move? Oh? Do you ever have that feeling? No, because Tyler does. 00:24:25 Speaker 1: Tyler is yelling about it because you don't like the cold. 00:24:28 Speaker 6: But there's sometimes cold for Tyler moves. 00:24:30 Speaker 3: It seems like man it is freezing. They should be moving and then just nothing. How cold are we talking here? I'm talking about teens and like single digits. 00:24:39 Speaker 4: I think, yes, they are going to stick on food, but they're still going to be moving early, earlier in the day, but they're going to be closer to the food. 00:24:50 Speaker 1: Tyler says, Nope, you don't think so. 00:24:54 Speaker 2: I've seen some days. 00:24:56 Speaker 1: It depends. 00:24:56 Speaker 2: It's like relative to the place. 00:24:57 Speaker 6: That you're at. 00:24:59 Speaker 1: Ent Yeah, probably around zero. 00:25:04 Speaker 3: Just it's just too cold. 00:25:08 Speaker 1: I don't like to hear that. 00:25:10 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you get some some crazy and Texas, I think it could shut down some stuff. 00:25:14 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I've seen some trail camera pictures from the public stuff around home. Butt it's snow on the ground, real cold. 00:25:22 Speaker 3: If you get the snow on the ground. 00:25:24 Speaker 6: If you get snow on the ground, Texas deer go everywhere. 00:25:27 Speaker 1: Like that's like on fifteen year thing. Pretty much it's just ice of it otherwise once fifteen years. 00:25:41 Speaker 3: So was it after Thanksgiving? When? 00:25:46 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well I went down probably like the twenty first, and I hunted a couple of days and it was pretty slow, and I was getting kind of down. I was starting to feel like we're going to get one. I wasn't gonna get one. I had this this nine point on camera that was like hit his like eye swollen shut. And I saw him on the hoof one time and he was limping like really bad, and I was like, I probably have a good chance of shooting this guy's blind and limping around. But one morning it. 00:26:21 Speaker 1: Was like what was this. 00:26:22 Speaker 6: I guess this was Friday black Friday morning, and went out and right about eight o'clock, I have a dough come walking down the road and head straight to the feeder and I keep looking behind her, and here he comes. I see him limping down the road, limp, and he was like shadowing her and like like wouldn't leave the down wind side of her. And he was fifteen yards from me, and he's about to walk like straight down the road, get right in front of me. I'm about to shoot mt twent yards. It's about to be perfect. And uh, for whatever reason, like I've got some brush piled up around this spot so that like deer don't go into the thicket with me, Like I try to keep a little barrier. And so I'm in there and he's at fifteen Then all of a sudden, he just decides to come in here with me, and he just hops over the brush and gets to like seven yards, and so I'm I'm like, I don't get buck fever, really, but when I'm out a position like that, man, I started breathing hard and got the grey guys going, Greg guys are going. I watched this deer. He yawned at like seven yards. That was pretty cool. I didn't get any of this on film because I'm self filming. It's just he's not supposed to be there. He's supposed to be in front of the camera. But and then he does a he does a snort wheeze at seven yards and I cut the audio of that, and it was pretty cool. The dope kind of freaked out and. 00:27:49 Speaker 1: Like, it's a good way to freak me out. 00:27:51 Speaker 6: For sure, I was freaked out. But he gets to so he's at seven yards and he's got an injured back leg and that's why he's limping, and he kept turning his head to like lick his back leg, and he would do it for a long periods of time, and he did it twice. I'm like, Okay, if he does that again, I'm just gonna draw and shoot him in frontal seven yards and he turns his head to lick his back right leg, and I look at the dough. She's looking away, and so I go, I have to move the camera arm out of the way to like draw back. And when I move the camera on, the doe caught me and she she bolts and the buck is just standing there, doesn't know what's going on. And at this point I'm convinced he's blind because at seven yards I was able to like turn my body like ninety degrees and like pull my bow up and he did not once look at me. And so I started drawing back and I had a couple of creaks in my in my bow, and uh, he didn't like it. He bolted out of here. Yeah he can still hear pretty good, but he ran off, and I felt, I'm like, my chances are that's not good. This is over. But there was another buck that was getting on camera and he was cruising around the property pretty regular. He's a good eight point. I was like, yeah, I'd shoot that if I see that, And so I decided to go to the same spot that night, and about five thirty here footsteps about twenty five yards behind me, and he starts walking up and he starts eating oes. I planted oats in this little just a small little plot, like I was gonna get some rain. I planned it the last time I was down there and hopes that maybe thanksgivings, Yeah yeah, I just tried it. I didn't know if it was gonna you know, when I went in there to hunt, I was like, oh good, the oats came up. I was like, that's cool. But he was eating notes and he walks through the patch and kind of headed up towards the feeder, and on camera like he didn't. He doesn't stay there long like he usually just like walks up, maybe eats a little bit of corn, and he's gone within a minute or two. Like so I knew I had to do it quick. And he walked out about fourteen yards, turned his head, turned his head the opposite direction. I was like, all right, here we go. I drew back. I mean he heard me draw back. He whipped his head around and it was too. 00:30:33 Speaker 3: Late, too late. 00:30:35 Speaker 6: And it's a quick bow. Yeah yeah, I aimed. I'm used to shooting slow, slow bows, and so I aim at the bottom of his heart and I hit him in the bottom of the hearty smoked. 00:30:49 Speaker 3: How far did he run? 00:30:50 Speaker 6: He ran about fifty seven yards is what I marked it, and pretty easy blood trail. 00:30:56 Speaker 3: And now when you're self filming, how is the recovery? Trying to do all that recovery is hard. 00:31:02 Speaker 6: Uh, it's not the easiest thing. Probably the best thing to do would be I only had one light in Casey just ripped off Michael's crocs. 00:31:16 Speaker 1: Probably stink. I'm sorry, dude, got a little. 00:31:19 Speaker 6: Sweat to him. 00:31:20 Speaker 1: Got a lot of sweat, dude, I'm telling you. 00:31:23 Speaker 6: But anyway, Yeah, self filming or recovery is kind of difficult. But I'd recommend doing like a go pro at yourself and then like film in front. But I only had one light, so I'm like flipping around light and flipping the background. So it's a I think I made a video and that video should be out fair is sick? Yeah, I got I got the shot on film. I kind of knew where the happens. Yeah, I was like kept it on that spot. 00:31:56 Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of people understand how hard it is to kill it yourself filming. I don't care if it's by a feeder, I do not care. 00:32:05 Speaker 6: It is tough to give and what's bad for filming. But a lot of times you can be like, all right, I'm just gonna kill this thing, definitely, and that's how you not get it on film. But luckily I was able to get this one on film. 00:32:23 Speaker 1: Did you fully capture the Greg guys on on GoPro or something? 00:32:28 Speaker 6: The celebrations guys, there's a lot of left left fist pumps going down. 00:32:34 Speaker 1: People don't understand how intense the Greg guys are. Gregs he's a big buck and anything. 00:32:42 Speaker 3: When we went with Brian hunt hogs and Greg took the rifle to shoot that Cayo, dude, I forgot about that this man, that's when we knew Greg was gonna be a kill. Cool, there we go, sweet dude. Congrats, Yeah, thank you. 00:33:00 Speaker 6: It was a lot of fun and one of he's pretty the second biggest buck I've shot on that property with the bow. 00:33:07 Speaker 1: So first one was last year. Yeah, yeah, I do that. 00:33:10 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 00:33:11 Speaker 6: Yeah. Last year's buck was a was a toad. But this one is no slouch and I was lucky to kill. 00:33:18 Speaker 3: Well, Casey's whipping us up some eggs right now. We're hungry, So Tyler just had a video release on the Meat Eater channel from South Dakota, so be sure to check that out and hopefully we will record another one of these one before we all go our. 00:33:36 Speaker 1: Separate ways for Christmas. 00:33:37 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we were so thanks for listening, guys,

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