00:00:00 Speaker 1: Tyler Casey and you're listening to the Element podcast. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: What's going on? 00:00:18 Speaker 1: Why Woods? 00:00:19 Speaker 2: People's we out. 00:00:20 Speaker 1: Here out here? We in here here. I hope they use different music on this intro than they normally do. I'm getting tired of than the one that's normal. Now what is it? It's when Oh, man, that's a pretty going too. Yeah, it's cool, but you know they don't get creative. Man every once in a while, if if he does it, he loves it, he loves it. I'll say, you know, I got I went and you know, spent some money to get a new one made last couple of summers ago, released on the media podcast. Actually it was the first time I was really ever available to the public. And uh, I don't think the boys use it at all. Let's tell them, let's tell them what informant and I'll tell yeah, tell different Tayler and the tribe stuff. You know, it's not just not just a one trick pony people what they want, you know, you know, speaking of one trick ponies, man, there's been a lot of questions that we've gotten in our Q and A series that have actually helped me, I think as much as they probably helped other people. 00:01:25 Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, this is brought to you by first like year, Yeah, continue to thank you. 00:01:29 Speaker 1: We forget that oftentimes. But this, you know, that's the thing about like, you can't be a one trick pony if you're gonna travel and hunt. Right, there's some there's some cool. 00:01:41 Speaker 2: That you could, but you wouldn't be as sucessful as maybe you would be. 00:01:44 Speaker 1: For sure. You gotta you gotta kind of develop and know more and and do more and and have these different things that you try, you know, And I think that's part of big deals, like not just being closed mind and trying new stuff, whether it's broadheads or arrowwights or uh, you know, rattling techniques or not rattling, or you know, hunting outside of a certain weak window that you normally hunt, or whatever it might be. There's a million different things, different weathers, whatever. So I've just been thinking about you know, man, that's a pretty handy thing that I've been challenged through our Q and a's to to think about stuff. And when you speak it aloud, it really comes to life more than because you're having to you're having to consider it in your mind, and then you're having to make a statement about it that you hope is fairly accurate and understanding. And I think that's a that's a pretty pretty fun thing. You and I have had a pretty good season so far. It's been just kind of like maybe just slightly pass the midway point, looking back at some of the things that we've been blessed to do and some of the accomplishments that we've been blessed to have this this year, and it's it's pretty cool. Man. I'm looking forward to a few more deer kills, man. But you know, there's been all kinds of tactics used. It's pretty pretty fun that we get to go and do this for such a long period of time because you get to see you get to see what they're doing when it's hot in September or when it's late in September and things are changing on the landscape or it's getting colder at night or whatever, and then early October. How that can be different mid October or late October. How sometimes that can be different. Different. Also, different places in the US have different ruts, right, Like we were seeing some rut in action in different in some of the different areas in Texas, like in mid October, you know, but we had better weather probably overall in October than we did. We had a couple of good fronts in October. One was middle of October I killed a buck on and then late October you killed a buck on in South Dakota on that cold front, which was like a nationwide deal. And I don't know, it's just been it's really cool. I feel like very happy man get a chance to learn all these things, and I really enjoy doing that. Like it's man, it is just so much fun too. Like I feel like more than ever I understand what deer doing. I'm also still very lost, right you know, as far as that goes. But I'm just saying, like more than I have ever personally understood, you know. And there's guys that would be better, a lot better at big woods hunting than your your eye right yep. And we talked they may even be one trick ponies, but like they get that gum big woods things. 00:04:33 Speaker 3: You know. What to think about the big woods is you gotta drive a long ways to get out of them. Yeah, that trick might just be the thing you do for a lot of states. 00:04:40 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah. So uh and that's something like. And that's something that's also exciting, is like as much as we've done, as much as we do, there's there's for a long time there's gonna be challenges still that we can kind of take on in the white tail game, which is like big woods or even the Martian swamp stuff, right Like, that's something Hills. Yeah, I think, can you go to Florida and hunt Deer's what I think. I think there's some people that would like to stick. 00:05:04 Speaker 3: Think I challenging you to do that. That doesn't work on me near as good as what I'm not that way. 00:05:14 Speaker 2: But right now, our biggest challenge, honestly is paying the bills. 00:05:17 Speaker 3: Did you know that? Yeah, so we gotta pay bills right now, guys. Right now, it is traditions week at Meat Eater, Okay. That means that we're all thinking about Thanksgiving. I know there's a lot of traditions that go along with that. A lot of us have some cool stuff we do in the woods around this time of year. It used to be a tradition for us a little bit to leave out the day after Thanksgiving and go deer hunting. We had a deer lease in South Texas that I can remember, like eating turkey and stuff you know down there is kind of cool. We don't do that anymore though, sadly kind of got priced out of release about twenty years ago. 00:05:54 Speaker 1: It's crazy to think about how long ago that was. 00:05:56 Speaker 3: But there's a lot of things people have going on, and of course within that too, some of these people got these traditions about doing Black Friday like rage, and that is not me. 00:06:07 Speaker 1: I try to not see your sister just they do the Friday Girls or anything like that. Yeah, well, I mean, and my life's pretty practical about it, really, like, I mean, she will do ninety percent of Christmas shopping on that day. 00:06:20 Speaker 2: Hey, we might buy some TV on Cyber Monday. 00:06:24 Speaker 3: Let's go to so Traditions Week goes Monday to Monday at Meat Eater. 00:06:28 Speaker 1: Cyber and Traditions don't sound too synonymous, No. 00:06:31 Speaker 3: It doesn't, you know. But right now today is when we're recording. This is on a Monday, but this goes all week. There's a can am that you can win on the Meat Eater, and there's a whole bunch of discounted stuff at First Light Meat Eater FHF all that stuff. We'll put a link in the description below, if you're feeling festive or traditional or whatever. I mean they got a stormy chromer, which I on even know what that is, but it's a pretty traditional looking hat. 00:06:59 Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, if you wanted one of them things on first I mean Peter pan Woarwick for sure. 00:07:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's been around absolutely. 00:07:05 Speaker 3: You know, I remember watching the Santa Claus that Elf had one of them things. 00:07:08 Speaker 1: On, for sure, like Will Ferrell thing in else Yeah. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, So get out there and get your tradition. 00:07:14 Speaker 1: If you want to be like Will Farrell, you can get that done. Yeah, for sure. 00:07:18 Speaker 3: Like we said, we have to pay the bills and we appreciate y'all supporting us and that stuff. If you would like to purchase some first light Year especially you know, we moveing this point earlier. The late season stuff, the cold weather stuff is the most expensive. That's the stuff you really need to make sure and try to buy on a discount if you have an opportunity, and right now that's going down. 00:07:36 Speaker 2: In fact, dude, I can't believe this, Will we go. 00:07:39 Speaker 3: I saw that the it's the Solitude or Sanctuary, I don't know. I think it's Solitude, which is like the midway late season. 00:07:47 Speaker 1: It's pretty warm out of you know, that's what I wear a lot. 00:07:50 Speaker 3: And uh, it's like forty percent off, which puts it at a real reasonable price. 00:07:55 Speaker 1: Steve apparently just made a ten percent or more upgrade on all the discount and a lot of cares about the people that he does. Steve's a caring guy that cares about me for shooting. That's right, you know, that's a that and and another thing to think about though, is also Christmas presents, like I mentioned earlier, Like there's some cool stuff on the Meteor store, like if you want to go get your son, your nephew, your brother, whatever, like a good knife. There's benchmain knives, there's vortex stuff, you know, and I don't know, uh, to what extent. Listen, guys, I should know this, but I don't know to what extent these discounts on the web. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna probably check it out, but I have it so far because the first day of the week. 00:08:37 Speaker 3: But hey, if you got that guy, you don't know what to buy him, Like they got spice assortments. Yeah, for every guy likes to think they cook meat, even if they don't. 00:08:47 Speaker 2: They like to think they do, So get him on them spiles. 00:08:49 Speaker 1: I think it's handy. On Christmas Day they get it, and then next Christmas to be like, oh I didn't used that one time, but no, it's I'm just saying, Uh, there's a lot of good application to you Friday sale, and one is to be able to get Chris's presence and there's some different, different and cool stuff. It's not just all First Light, at least on the website. I and like I said, I don't know what extent the discounts extend, but go check it out. Back to Deer and Deer Hunting and because that's just what we're doing right now. It's one of my favorite things in the world to do. 00:09:46 Speaker 2: You were taking a little bit of a break this week, which is weird. 00:09:48 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It's gonna feel weird because it's been hot the whole month and then all of a sudden, a col Frind is gonna come in and I'm gonna be just in the middle of Thanksgiving stuff. I'mna be like, listen, I love y'all. We have done this when it was eighty degrees instead of when it's fifty. You know, man, I know it. 00:10:04 Speaker 3: Hey, so we're going to get into some story from you about a big, giant, giant giant buck. Bggggb looks ridiculous. But first have a question. Yeah, I might get to hunt one day this week. Would you hunt my property or would you go to public? 00:10:29 Speaker 1: I would go to public. I think I would too. It's sad, but it's the same situation my property too. Yeah, properties are dried up. I was gonna hunt today. We had we literally, guys, Me and Casey talked earlier. We talked a lot. I think we decided we don't actually hunt for a living, we logistic for a living. Yeah, and uh, today we have I've been I got up at five thirty and I have been working literally NonStop, either on the computer or with Casey on podcasts and that kind of thing literally since that. And now it's five pm and we're still podcasting. Yeah. 00:11:10 Speaker 2: So what are you working on right now? 00:11:12 Speaker 1: I'm editing your video, which Michael has put a lot of together and I'm doing a lot of fine tuning on it. It is a video of you shooting a big old monster buck on that October cold front I referenced in South Dakota. Yeah. 00:11:27 Speaker 3: So when this comes out, there's a high likelihood that within a twenty four hour window, somewhere in there this video is also out. 00:11:34 Speaker 1: The goal is to have it out like around the same time the podcast come. 00:11:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yo, go watch that. Support us in that if you can. It's a it's a pretty long video, but there's like I don't know if I've been it might be the post proximity to Big Bucks ever in my life. 00:11:48 Speaker 1: It's probably the buckiest video we have. Yeah, it's crazy, guys, It's gonna be awesome footage here, So go. 00:11:56 Speaker 3: Check that out. Click everything you see in the description, just click, just. 00:12:00 Speaker 2: Just do it. 00:12:02 Speaker 3: But Tyler, you mentioned some warm weather in early November. Apparently you don't care and you just get on Bucks. 00:12:12 Speaker 1: Anyways, November tenth just is a day? Was that the tenth? How about that? 00:12:19 Speaker 3: Start us out your week? So here's the deal, guys, Yeah, here, here's the deal. Let me, let me, let me bring in okay, and then Tyler's gonna take off. 00:12:27 Speaker 2: You know. 00:12:27 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, uh, Elon just launched that rocket ship in South Texas, right, and so like everything kind of goes what and then bass off? Right, So I'm gonna the part I go to South Dakota and kind of burn some rout days kind of and travel more than anything, uh, to capitalize on the almost. 00:12:51 Speaker 2: Perfectly timed cold front. 00:12:54 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:12:54 Speaker 2: And that worked out well, y'all see that in the video. 00:12:57 Speaker 3: But that then puts every thing a little bit out of whack because we don't make it home until November third, and that's usually we're already kind of on another hunt at that point in time. But it made it worth it, which you will see in the video. Then we start watching cameras and we're concerned about a like Indian summer early November, like not even warm, but like extra hot, right like eighties on the on like northern plain stuff. 00:13:32 Speaker 2: And that's like a little concerning. So we're like, you know what, man, it's fine. 00:13:36 Speaker 3: Let's just go through the weekend and we'll just The seventh is like a magical day. I'm believing in magic, but it's it's a phrase, you know what I'm saying, and it'll be good. And then so that's our plan. The fifth we check the trail cameras rage. The sixth we check the trail cameras rage, right, and so now Tyler's freaking out we missed the rud It's over, you know, and we're all like in a big hurry to get where we're going. 00:14:08 Speaker 1: I mean he did get things done. 00:14:12 Speaker 2: Is that Diamond Rio? 00:14:13 Speaker 1: Uh? No, I think that's like, is that Alabama? Maybe it's one of those not Diamond real country boy bands. It's either them or Black Hawk maybe. Oh yeah, black Hawk. I feel like it's Alabama. 00:14:25 Speaker 2: The handsome there's was there like a Diamond one or something Diamond. 00:14:27 Speaker 1: Rio that I've seen them live within the last few years and they have so many like number ones. Yeah, that they had to play like ninety seconds of each one and do like a medley that was like fifteen minutes long to get them as bad as the bone. Oh it was awesome. Yeah, they're like a seven time huh. I guess ACM or something like a Grammy like Best Vocal Group for Country. I mean they're they had it going on, dude. I was a big Diamond Real fan for sure. Did you see them at Billy Bob's. Yes, yep. 00:14:58 Speaker 2: It's a good place to see very popular bands. 00:15:01 Speaker 1: They bring in some kind of older and popular bands. Uh. The one thing about Billy Bobs is that the at least in the past. The sound is just not up to par with modern technology. You know, people get you ever heard of liquid encouragement. There's kind of liquid ears. Yeah, see, I don't have those, so it's not fun. Man. I'd love to hear this on like a crispy sound system somewhere, you know, but yeah, it'd be cool. It's just that way. So anyways, we hit up on the seventh. 00:15:26 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:15:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I had decided I actually decided I was going to go up there. I think a little bit of headyall and I, like I said, I checking cameras. There wasn't a whole lot going on. It was very hot, and I decided not to Well, guess what the day that I was going to go up there and hunt that afternoon at the place I was going to hunt that afternoon on that on that wind on that day was our best area and the like one of the maybe the highest scoring one of the big deer that we had a big a like hunt forty plus type A. 00:16:01 Speaker 3: Let's talk about these deer because we ran cell cameras, the multimobile cameras. We work with those guys and absolutely the edge cameras are bad at the bone. 00:16:09 Speaker 1: We love them. 00:16:09 Speaker 3: They do a great job. And we are watching cell cameras and trying to make moves off of that. And we have like three target bucks and this this may or may not come into play now or in a later podcast, might be important to know some of this stuff. So we have an eight point with a broken brow makes him a seven, but he's an eight point. I tend to call deer what their frame is, so like if a if an eight point has a crabby little nine point, I still called him at eight point. You know, he's like, if he had the brow, he would push one fifty. I think I've seen him in person. He's a big, big box frame, like a mule teer style frame, you know, like out and up. And then we have a nine point that kind of has like a two sided deal going on where one side is kind of a four point side that kind of goes up and it's not super big, but he's nice deer. And his five point side is real big, but it kind of goes forward. So he's pretty particular and he has like that bulldog top body. 00:17:17 Speaker 1: You know, big big. He's very mature deer. 00:17:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there is the deer that I believe you're talking about yep, and he is like length man, he's just got long times. 00:17:28 Speaker 1: They curve. 00:17:30 Speaker 3: Curvy times are deceptive, and when curvy times still look big, it's a real big deal. 00:17:35 Speaker 1: And his beams are long because they go they go back out forward and round end, you know. And so I mean, he's definitely gonna score high. 00:17:43 Speaker 3: That's uh, we don't and I don't even have anything against it too much, But we don't really name deer anymore. If you hunt a lot of public land, you don't get an opportunity to name things. We end up naming deer like day of Like my South Dakota deer. We named him Slip because he kept on. 00:18:00 Speaker 2: Giving, you know. 00:18:04 Speaker 1: And yeah you can if you've watched the Nebraska video my Buck in Nebraska, I walk out the door and I'm like, Case, I'm going to shoot that big eight. I still didn't have an a for him, but we knew there was a big eight around, you know, we hadn't seen him before. And so and this is the other big eight you're talking about here. Yeah, yeah, that's that deer shows up like in daylight. I think it was like one of the first times he was really in good daylight. And I think that was the fifth or something. I was so sad. I was like, man, because then the next like two or three days, he didn't show up in daylight, and I don't even know if he even showed up. He like left, probably got with the dough, left property and was with her for a couple of days or whatever, so and and nothing that everything died, and I was like, man, I missed my my chance to like go up there, get it done, get out of case's way, because this is a property that we have leased, and we have two spots on it really that would be like ambush spots. And I was hoping to like get out of his waist, so that there was no like, you know, well what are you going to do? I don't know what what are you gonna do? You know that kind of thing. 00:19:12 Speaker 3: We both do our best to be considered the other person, and it ends up being a game of he haul. 00:19:17 Speaker 1: Sometimes that's what we did. So, I mean, that's what we ended up doing when we got up there. But like it just was, Yeah, it was a it was kind of a sad deal for me, and of course, as usual, it ends up not being so sad. And you know about a few days later. But so we get up there and we're kind of spending some time on that property, and pretty quickly you had an encounter with a nine point and felt like because of that, I don't go into the details of it, or maybe you want to go into the details of it. 00:19:52 Speaker 2: Is this before things transpire? 00:19:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you were what happened after you had that encounter. You were like, it's your turn. You figure, you go where you want to go first, and you gave me the opportunity to go down there to Okay, okay, okay. 00:20:06 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's long story short. 00:20:09 Speaker 3: I had said, on this property, it's pretty wide open, there's not a lot of trees around, and uh, it's it seems as if it might be sensitive to pressure. Come to find out, maybe not. I think the rut helps a little lot, Yeah for sure. And we also, uh, I need to start in a different spot. I told myself that I was going to hunt ambush style from the ground on deer and not just just stomp the place chasing deer around too much, because that's how you end up, you know, spooking deer and messing stuff up and throwing a bunch of scent everywhere. So one evening Tyler went to hunt an ambush style. We had kind of betted to deer in a general area, didn't really know where. It was pretty far from where you were gonna hunt, so we pushed. We made a big loop around and pushed up into the center of the property to try to put eyes on the deer. Well, he was bedded in like a whole set of heels over from where we thought he was going to be, and then it was like, well, here we go the thing and that we said we were going to do, and he was with a dough So we just ran a quarter mile real fast to get over close to him, and we're trying to kind of work our way around a satellite buck and he kind of held us up and we ended up getting caught by that big nine point like at one hundred yards. He seize us, and he doesn't know really what we are. We're kind of down at the bottom. He's kind of rutted up because he's been chasing that satellite buck off and I give him a snort wheeze and he just freaks out. 00:21:51 Speaker 1: He runs away. I'm like, what is he doing? Man? 00:21:53 Speaker 3: Because I have a lot of confidence in the snort weeeze deal, and maybe it's a little bit misplaced. 00:21:59 Speaker 1: I don't know, just it's. 00:22:01 Speaker 2: Weird, but it didn't work. He ran off Dad gum it. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: So we're kind of looking our wounds down here in the bottom and then here comes a dough like ten yards and I'm like, oh, that's his girl. She came back down here, and so I'm freaking out. We hear across, you know, you hear him coming grunting, and it's like, oh man, it's about to go down. And so we're kind of like trying not to spook her because if she blows out, he's gone. But at the same time I have to kind of get worked around to maybe get a shot at him. He's gonna come right in our laps, and she actually goes down behind us. Perfect he's gonna go right by us. He crissed the hill at like thirty five and just looks right at us and out of there boom. 00:22:43 Speaker 2: So what in the world. 00:22:45 Speaker 3: So I think that it might have been one of those temperament type things that that Buck was just not a fighter too much. He didn't have any broken times or anything, you know, still doesn't he looks like he's in really good physical shape, so he might just kind of be a homebody, which kind of would make sense too, because he was in a real specific area of the property a lot, and I just don't think that he was into the mix too much, you know. And but we he runs off again. We and I'm thinking, okay, well it's over. I mean, this is a little insight for people we make videos, right, So I'm like, this is dumb. I hate this stuff. I like, okay, I. 00:23:28 Speaker 1: Drew on this deer. 00:23:29 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna what we need to do is I need to get up here and you get a shot of me at full draw. That way we can use it in a thumbnail vide if all all that is, that's the picture that you put on YouTube, right where. 00:23:41 Speaker 1: The dude in the deer. 00:23:42 Speaker 3: And it's like, oh, it's good as union, you know. That's I'm taking this thumbnail shot. And the satellite Buck like runs over to us because he like had hurt us grunting and stuff and saw us and he was like and we were like, now you're trying to not get him to come over because I didn't want to have to make a choice on him because he's like a nineteen inch wide eight point. He's a nice buck, but he's younger and I would like to see him in two years and be very cool. Yeah, And finally that deer comes to like forty and he kind of like eases off, so we got to take this thumbnail shot and then the nine point is still around. He's like at one hundred yards and runs up out of the ditch and he is for sure spook to this time. He's gone like not tail up, like tail down out of that. And that's when I was like hanging my head, like, Okay, I messed some things up, Tyler, I'm gonna lay. 00:24:42 Speaker 1: Back, yep. 00:24:43 Speaker 2: And then sorry, that was longer story than what you want to be. 00:24:45 Speaker 1: And then I chose to hunt a place that's the worst ambush spot in the world. 00:24:52 Speaker 3: We actually have a quote that's just sticking with us from there and it is this is impossible. 00:24:58 Speaker 2: We just keep tasting that back and. 00:24:59 Speaker 1: For yep, And anyway, we ended up spooking I guess that same satellite buck you're talking about, big wide deer the next morning at like sixty yards, you know, just because we're in the wide open and trying to hide in some grass. Yeah, and just you know, I see a rough party going behind me, like three hundred yards away, and I'm watching it to see if I need to call to him or if I can or if I can move on him. And I turn around and those are just a wide, awesome young deer looking right at me. 00:25:28 Speaker 3: Dude, if he like for real, if I was in a tree in a river bottom somewhere, like didn't know anything about the bucks around, I would shoot that deer if it was like a quick thing or be sure, yeah I'm shooting dude. 00:25:40 Speaker 1: He's impressive. Yeah. But so he takes off and I start to essentially starting to try to decide like a couple of things. A. There's not a whole lot of good places to hunt on this property. There we got like one ambush spot that probably would work out as an ambush spot. So I'm like, well, you know, my dad has had a place for me to hunt for years, and I usually try to stay off of it because there's not a whole lot of target bucks. They try to shoot very mature deer in that place, and there's not a whole lot of there's not a whole lot of target bucks anymore because cows are all over at. Cattle pressure is immense, and there's it when it had a drought last year, and so I've tried to kind of stay off it over the years, and I mean I've hunted it quite a bit, but just be very picky when I am and stuff. Well, I'm thinking, Okay, I'm just gonna go over there and see, I've been running a truck camera over there for you know, a couple of months, but it's only really worked. I mean, it blew out in the first two days. I used bad batteries and blew out one of the cameras and didn't have a chance to see what was really coming in there. So we get there and get one down there. So I have about two three days of truck camera at and there's some good bucks around, but none of them are shooters. But I decided to go hunt over there. So we spend some time over there, Eric and I do, and we're hunting and it's a tree stand situation, so I feel really comfortable about getting a shot if something does come through, right, And so anyway, we eventually we've been hunting one side of this straw based off this wind or we get a different wind, and I go in there and I'm trying to I want to hunt that other tree because we film out of it better and I think it offers better shots. But I'm sitting here throwing these milk weeds and I'm like, man, the wind's kind of doing this. I need to blow it up out of this straw, not down the draw. Not to mention, if you think about it, deer typically go down like field edges or draws on the down wind side a lot of times. So if like or a shelter shelter belt, right like, you're going to see a deer traveling a shelter belt on the down wind side, smelling for dose bedded in that shelter belt, right, So, same thing in this straw. And I'm like throwing this milk weed to make the other side of work, and it just I was just like, it's just not gonna work. We're gonna have to We're gonna have to be here. It's just two. It's just bad, just enough. And so we get up in this tree and it's the same tree that I shot my dear out of last year and on the buck Truck series, and so we get in it and we like, I said, we'd had a couple of good hunts. We've seen some really cool rud action. I thought I was gonna shoot at one point. I started shaking one time when a buck came in. And I don't know that we really had the time to tell the story because we've still got other things that work, things to do and the day should be over by now, but that there was some cool stuff going on with some challenge studio for you know, that's right, it'll be on there, it'll be on there. But that that particular night we get in there and we have these dos come through. That's the same family group of those we've been seeing. And this is an interesting thing to kind of think about. But deer very uh have like a personalities and they're very particular, and they're very different from each other. This is why we like deer, right, I mean, their antlers look different from each other, they act different from each other. They got two throat patches, sometimes they got a black ring around the bottom of their mouth, or sometimes they don't. They got white rings around their eyes or sometimes they don't. Like they're just that stuff too. Yeah. 00:29:16 Speaker 3: I love walking up to a dead deer and be like, look at that black mark on his chin, you know, and it's just like and then you're like, do they all have that? 00:29:23 Speaker 4: And you have to start thinking and you're like, well no, see, like you look up here on your wall. Yep, some of them have a very more pronounced black chin than others. Huh, Yep, it's cool. Someone have big ears, little ears, some of them. The double throat patch of that Texas deer up, there's awesome. 00:29:37 Speaker 1: Look at the if you look at like the middle deer and see how the black goes from his lower jaw to his upper jaw up to his nose. Look at one eyed jacket doesn't go past his lower jaw, the black line and the big white nose. Yeah. So like they're just so different, right, and that's why we like them. Well, these three does come in and I had noticed them coming through the day. They're going up to this ag food source at night and so sitting basically in between hopefully between them and their betting and that agg food source, even though it's a long ways away. They're just these deer used to traveling. So these three dos come through and it's like a mature dough, a one point five and a six month old and the one point five is the most freaked out deer I've ever seen, I think, David. It was wild. Like they would come in and the mature dough would be calm, the little doe would be calm. They would browse around, feed around, and the one point five would stand off to the side and the whole time whipping its head around looking up stuff. It looked up at us like six times. And we're in a big cottonwood, so we probably look a lot like that tree. And it's still looking up there checking us out. Doesn't catch us moving or anything, because it would have been out of there if it had, and it would like it would you know, it would think that it would like run off with its tail up for a couple and now the dose would like look at it and be like, Okay, this thing does this all day every day. But it's just very interesting. Like apparently that dough, if that is its mom, is like it's dad, right, instead of like it's mom. I would assume like its personality is more like it's dad's personality because the mom was not like that, so I just have to assume that's what it was like. But the uh, you know, it's just weird to me because some bucks will be like that, right, some bucks will be just almost impossible to kill. 00:31:28 Speaker 3: I've always kind of wondered if it's more about recent events, maybe, like did a Bobcat like kind of make a play at that thing? Sure, sure could have, you know, And I'm not saying you wrong, It's just kind of that's how I always kind of process it. Like if a Doe's real jumpy, I'm like, man, somebody trying to mess with her recently. 00:31:44 Speaker 1: But if they're walking together the whole time, you'd think they would all three be like that. Yeah, you know, like if one of them got jumped, I feel like all of them would have got jumped. But yeah, it's just it's a weird thing. And I thought that was interesting. But anyway, they kind of pass on through, and that they had passed through through a couple of nights before, and we hunted them, and as soon as they were gone, they weren't even like out of sight. Hardly I see a buck come in. Well, so I'm kind of expecting the same procession of things to happen, right, And this is a good buck's a good eight point, but it's not a shooter. I think it's a four year old. Anyway, they leave out, and I'm like, oh, things fixing to happen. Well, nothing happens for a while. It's kind of windy, and I'm sitting there looking around, kind of looking forward, and I don't really I expect for deer to come from like my left, but I don't expect them to go behind me, because it just didn't happen that way very often. It's kind of higher ground, it's out of the creek system kind of, and so I don't hardly ever see them do that. I have seen them do it before, but I don't normally see them do it. Well, we kind of came in from up up high, and we walked down the edge of this creek bank and diagonal to the tree pretty high, actually higher than we normally do for whatever reason. And this buck I hear, I hear steps, and I hear him walking in like the cottonwood leaves, and so I like, I kind of like move my eyes but not my head and start to look to the left. And as soon as that happens, Eric goes there's a buck and he said it real chill, and I was like, okay, well, there's a two or three year old buck. Not a shooter. Yeah, I was like, not a shooter, No big deal. So I was like, all right, where's he at? And he's like over over where that other buck came from last year, And so I was like okay, And so I turned my I'm like can I move? Is it looking? I was like He's like no. So I was like, all right, I'll start turning my start turning my head to look down to the left. I don't see this deer and from where that deer came from? And so I'm like, where is it? I don't see it. He goes by that tree with that deer scraped last year. If y'all saw buck truck and uh, yeah, by the way, that scrape is huge right now, is it? Yes? 00:33:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, we walked by the other day just pulling that camera, and people talk about car hoods about this. 00:34:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a little landmark scrape tree. So anyway, I look up at the at the tree and I still don't see this thing. I'm like what is going on here? And and and then finally something catches my eye moving up the hill even more a little bit, so I turn back and look up at it. And is Mondo, And I was like, thinking, what that? What when in the world, Eric, you're supposed to tell me? Like, I mean, I'm still thinking at this point, this is just like a fun thing for us to video coming in. You know. This is like one hundred and fifty something inch deer probably ten point you know. And immediately as soon as the sawm I recognized him. And I'll tell you kind of what he is after a minute. But he he's working kind of up the hill like he's gonna come out on top, and then he kind of flattens out and starts coming kind of to us. And I've seen one buck kind of come off that hill and come down right in front of us, like ten fifteen yards, and I'm thinking, I'm fixing a shot right here. It's gonna be wide open, it's gonna be awesome. Point blank. Well, he starts coming at us. Then all of a sudden he stops, nose down and starts smelling around, and he takes a stomp, and I'm like, dad, gumm, and he's got our ground scent. And so he sits there for a second, smells it, lifts his head up, goes back down and smells it. Again just you know, didn't bother him enough. And he so he works his way through it, basically after a minute or whatever, and he's just like, Okay, well, no big rush. You know, it's something different. But you know, I guess there wasn't enough sent all it kills for him to be worried. And he works through it, and it's still kind of like debatable as to whether he's gonna come down in front of me or work up the hill and back behind me. And so finally he kind of gets on his horse in a direction and he's going up the hill behind me. So I'm like, I'm like freaking out. You know, I've gotten my I think I got the GoPro on and got my bow finally somehow through all this, luckily, the wind was blowing really pretty good, you know. And and so I grab a rangefinder. It's Eric's rangefinder because I left my rangefinder in a different state somewhere on the ground bind tree. So yeah, I climbed a tree. So I took my range front of my binos. Not only with you're. 00:36:22 Speaker 3: Just your range funder and your FHF Final Hornets which is on sale right now. 00:36:26 Speaker 1: I meet then that all that is just sitting out in the woods on public land in a different state. So I'm using Eric's rangefinder. Well Eric's rangefinder, there's like a I think it's I think this is how it works. Hit it once, it turns it on. Hit it again, it will not range. Hit it the third time it does range. So you that ain't good. The first time you hit it does not range. I've noticed that. I don't know why that is. And so I'm like, I got guys, I got one small lane because we haven't we haven't worried about lanes behind us. This deer never hardly ever go up there, but so there's branches everywhere in this cottonwood tree and there you know, it's a high lane. You know, it goes up into the branches essentially because he's going up out of the creek system. Well, I got one little lane. It's very narrow, and he's coming up on it fast, and I'm like, you know, hitting this thing like as many times as I can. Finally I hit like the dirt on the top and it said nineteen yards and I was like, okay, we good, he's gonna come around. It's within five yards of that, you know, probably, and I mean as soon as I hit that SAW nineteen, I dropped the rangefinder down. Well, first of all, I couldn't even find the range finder because I'm not used to it, and I had been putting it in my jacket pocket all week well for some reason, Oh, because I was sitting in a seat that was loud. It was banging on that seat, so I tucked it in my jackets so I could not find it at first. I was like, yeah, freaking finally, like, unp my jacket and I'm like digging in there, get it finally and get it finally get it range And I mean as soon as I arrange it, I drop it down. It's hanging on a like a you know, a little I think I got it hanging on my vinyl harness. So I drop it and I go to clip on well my release, which is now donated, by the way, Really, yeah, I didn't know about this. Yeah, my release that like set screw for the post that like you can make it longer shorter as a wall. And so I had noticed that earlier because it was spinning a bunch, So I kind of I screwed it in. So yeah, so I screwed it in a little bit just to make sure. I didn't know how long it was. I can't remember right. Well, apparently it's shorter than I'm normally used to. So when I go to clip on, I like cannot get I can't get my fingers up high. Like it's like I'm breaking my wrists backwards trying to be quicked on. Dude, I was for sure, dude, and I'm talking, I like could not get it. I finally get it clipped. And as soon as I get it clipped, I look up and he is coming into the lane and I just all back. He's looking quartered away slightly, looking away slightly, And I knew that when he came into that lane, he was gonna hit the top and he was probably gonna look somewhere around my shooting lane. He was gonna just because when they come over the top, then when you look around, so they stop and look. And so I knew that was gonna happen. I didn't I didn't even have to grunt stop him, Dude, I knew it was gonna have anyway. I yank it back as he's coming into the lane, and I just I put it on him, and I'm like just trusting that he's gonna stop, and he like high heads and so I know, and he takes about one more step and stops and it's right in the lane perfect. So I like really dialed. I've been taking like the extra second in my mind a lot lately, and I really dialed it in there. I put it low heart, that was where I was aiming for, and I shoot, and I mean it looks great, and he takes off running and he runs like a like a half circle, and then I bet he ran too an ear in fifty yards, dude, he ran forever, and we found out that I smoked the heart in fact, cut. 00:39:57 Speaker 2: The front of it off. 00:39:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he straight up ran too fifty yards like that. It was crazy. But when he got to two fifty or whatever he got to, he stops and then it was like dead these lights out. There was no there was no kicking, no like flopping and trying to get up. It was like as soon as he stopped he rolled up, he just tipped over and did not move at all. 00:40:18 Speaker 3: It's crazy. It is November tenth. Yeah, it's like full fledged rut adrenaline. It's going down and it's like it's weird that a hormone, which I'm assuming adrenaline is a hormone, right, it's a something so with the in doctrine system, intocrine system, and so it's strange that that can circumvent like bodily function. 00:40:45 Speaker 1: That you can cut a heart. 00:40:48 Speaker 3: Sever the artery, because we'll talk about in a little bit, but I'm the one that found the heart. You can sever the arteries in the veins, like the feeder and the what it's kicking out, the blue and the red right, and that thing can still just go. 00:41:06 Speaker 1: It blew my mind. How fast? 00:41:08 Speaker 3: I mean, how many messic two hundred and fifty yards per deer? I mean they can't run eighty, right, but they can run real fast. Probably thirty five is probably what he's. 00:41:16 Speaker 1: Getting it at. 00:41:17 Speaker 3: If he's going top speed, he probably is. I mean had to take him ten seconds. It took Yeah, it took a while. Yeah, And I could not believe it. I knew he was dead. I knew I was almost one hundred percent sure he was not going to make it out of this open area that he ran into. 00:41:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was weird. 00:41:33 Speaker 3: There's also an experience of mind that you can see in the South Dakota video that make you start questioning everything. 00:41:38 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, you know. 00:41:40 Speaker 3: So I'm sure I don't know if consciously or not, but you're probably thinking, like, do I need to shoot this thing again? 00:41:44 Speaker 1: I'm just like what is going on? And finally he just stops and, like I said, rolls over. So this deer had not been on my cameras that I know of. In fact, he had been I don't know, probably a mile to my dad's stand location. He had been down in that direction living. And in fact I knew this when I first saw him because of the shape of his rack and the color. It's pretty white. This year, in twenty twenty one, a lot of you will remember I shot the biggest year of my life on public land fifty yard shot Eric killed. The footage it's like a viral bow hunting clip. 00:42:24 Speaker 3: Right, it's right, if you see bow hunting like hunters on Instagram or something. 00:42:29 Speaker 1: Ridiculous, it tells it's going to be all that there's they're going to have some videos to repost account right of this buck. It's like a very viral video. And so he that year twenty twenty one, I was actually hunting the same property and I spent some time at bow stands where I killed and like this year and last year, and then where my dad's stand is, and I'd kind of hop back and forth because I was hunting two deer. One of them was it was a big ten point which I shot last year, small much smaller than he was the year before. And the other one was a huge eleven point, and the I rattled in at my dad's stand, which I was actually I had done a hanging hunt back behind where his stand is, and I rattled that eleven point in and I'm watching him and I'm reacting to what he's doing, and at the same time, there's another deer watching me. I have no clues in the world that Eric is filming. And it's a big ten point with like a broke G three or something. He's got like a pretty broke rack. But he's a nice he's a nice buck. You know. That is the deer that I shot this year, two years later, and it's it's pretty cool. Man. 00:43:35 Speaker 3: People can go back and watch that. Yeah, and they'll see this deer two years younger. Yeah, and then when we released, we'll put that footage in there too. Because I talked about that. 00:43:44 Speaker 1: I told her. I was like you know what, dear, that is right when we got confused and now I was looking at one and you were filming the other, then that was that was that deer. So I think we got footage of him twice, so we'll put some of that in in that footage. But anyway, recovered the deer. It was really really cool moment, man, because I got to I kind of I got a little emotional after that because I kind of you know, it always this is a thing, man, is like where we hunting Kansas, Man, it's it's not easy. We struggle every year. It seems like we don't struggle because we always kill a big deer the last three years or whatever. Right, Uh, but if you look at our first three years there, it was real rough. We figured some things out, but it's still it is. It's like a it's a it's a straight up just gift from God. It feels like when it finally happens out there. 00:44:33 Speaker 3: And at any one time, uh, God doesn't have to pour that out. 00:44:37 Speaker 1: Yeah either you. 00:44:40 Speaker 3: So every time when it does come together, you're. 00:44:42 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I mean you do you get You spend like the best part of your year there and it is very difficult. Like it's I don't know, we just I like I said, I don't know how to say it other than it's we hunt very open country. Like you said that property, we were hunting you. You were having to go to the ground game, which is not what you wanted to do. 00:45:03 Speaker 3: No, I've killed well just about me, but I've killed him on the ground this year. 00:45:08 Speaker 2: I've not killed hear from the tree yet. Yeah, I want too bad. 00:45:11 Speaker 1: You were like telling me before, you know, while we were in Kansas, You're like, dude, I really want to kill you. That's not looking at me. 00:45:19 Speaker 2: I still hadn't got to do it. 00:45:21 Speaker 1: I know it's wild, dude. So anyway, I just like it was just a cool deal man. I really you'll get to see this video will probably be on actually the media or YouTube channel at some point. But I don't know, it's just very I don't know. I feel just like not even worthy, man, because my dad just gave me. He gives me such a cool opportunity out there and has given me opportunities over of course my life for a long time to hunt, taking me places, and like it felt like you know, I mean, this is something that like we we strive to do well, we tried to do this well because it is what we do for a living. That's what we want. We want to do what we do for a living well. And for him to like, like I told him right off the bat, I called him and I was like, I told him, yeah, I shot a big deer or whatever. He's super pumped and I said, man, I think I shot the big one that you were kind of thinking about trying to shoot too. I mean, he was hunting the deer, you know. And he like immediately told me don't feel bad about it. He said, do not feel bad. He said, when you get my age, you'll understand. He's like, actually, you probably already understand, because he still thinks, you know, I'm probably sixteen year old in his mind. But no, he's like, he just like, you know, told me you'll understand, and I do to an extent. I still felt bad about it, but I knew that he wouldn't want me to pass it at twenty yards old, you know. 00:46:41 Speaker 5: So anyway, it was a really good evening, I guess. 00:47:12 Speaker 1: To wrap it up, I was gutting this deer and I had one of them sharp havlons, you know, and they have a little mechanism that holds a blade on. So I'm gonna cape this deer so I don't go past the sternum. And so I get up in there and I'm gonna disconnect the windpipe and pull everything out. Right, I've got everything worked out and ready to go. I get up in there and I feel the heart and I'm like, I smoke that thing, you know, my other hands up in there real close to each other. And so after I smoked it, I was like kind of like readjusting my grip and then I was gonna pull that knife out. I got hung on that mechanism on something in there, and as soon as it released, it was just like hink right into my dag and thumb knuckle on top. 00:47:54 Speaker 3: Did you have the feeling of like blade on bone. Not really, That's one of my least favorite things. Yeah, I've done that a few times. No, I don't mind a cut too much, but I mean it was like, I mean, it's definitely on the bone, but there's a little bit cross stuff there. 00:48:08 Speaker 1: And it's like right, I mean it's it's the back end of the cut is on the bone and the rest of it's kind of in the meat, and it was like, as soon as I pulled it out, it was like real deep. And I didn't I didn't know that it went to the bone because, like I said, I didn't feel it. But I, guys, I can go like rip all the skin off my arm on a turf, burn in my on my elbow and be just fine, right. But sometimes when I it's all in my head. But like when I think about a needle going into the big vein of my arm, or when I look at the deep cut that's just filled with blood. Immediately, dude, I went to the tailgate immediately, like I look up. They said they were filming. I looked up and I'm like, I was like, I got it, good guys, And I just pinch it closed and I walk over to my tailgate and Eric's immediately he's a medicine man. He's like, I'm gonna get I'm like, get you some stuff, you know. He just digging around. He takes forever and not finding the stuff. And I'm like feeling real woozy, kind of getting that cold sweat going on. So I was like, I got to get to the truck, dude. So I walk over to the truck and when I go to reach for the the door lock or whatever, I like stumble out and miss it, and so I grabbed it and just dove in over there check. 00:49:22 Speaker 3: On you and uh, because we were all like kind of like, what's going on, you know, And I know how this goes. Look, when you're injured, you don't want people messing with you. Yeah, So I just kind of gave you some space. And after a little bit, I was like hey, And I walked over there and you weren't like sitting in the chair normal, You're just like shamood off in there. 00:49:43 Speaker 2: And I was like, hey, uh, are you all right? 00:49:47 Speaker 3: You're like yeah, it's just bad and and I'm sick or something. I can't remember what you said, but it didn't hurt. 00:49:51 Speaker 1: It's just I just felt I felt I almost passed out, dude, I almost passed out. So I from this quote around here it is yeah, I'm the only one doing it now. 00:50:01 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I was like, hey, do you want me to finish that deal for it? 00:50:05 Speaker 3: And you're like, yeah, that'd be good deal. 00:50:10 Speaker 1: But it's not, you know, and your hands aren't dirty. You're like, cra if I got to go in there and do this fall, you got it. Done, and I was thankful for it, and you got to look at the heart and it kind of observed the shot and apparently I went what a really good entry point and ended up coming through like basically the Golden triangle, like really pretty far forward and made a great shot. You finish that for me, and then you come over and like wrap my hand and we I get Eric to drive and I go back and get in the shower and dude, I got sick in the shower. Dude. First of all, Kerry wanted to make sure that any stitches. I didn't want stitches because we're in the middle of nowhere. 00:50:44 Speaker 3: Well that was what I was thinking too, is like, because you asked me because it was stop bleeding when I wrapped your hand, and you're like, don need stitches, And I'm like, man, you could go either way. And I still kind of stand by that. It's like they'd probably be eight or ten stitches. I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know indually how close they put them, you know too, but probably eight stitches and uh they But I was and I wouldn't try to be selfish about it, but I'm like, yeah, I know you knew this if we go to the er. 00:51:14 Speaker 1: We're not sleeping the whole night, No, somebody else with me. You want to do that or not? I promise you. I felt sick then, dude. The only I don't give it. Who about having a scar on my aesthetics, you know, actually talking about I've got scars, scars way better than scars all over my hand, dude, like for playing football stuff. I don't care. It was the It was the infecting thing was really what I was mainly worried about and get it to grow back together. So anyway, I got I showed Kayley on FaceTime and I was like I had to hang up on her. I was like, oh that. 00:51:46 Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, into it because she kind of likes that kind of stuff. 00:51:50 Speaker 1: She was like, I don't know, I don't know what to do. She's like thinking that I should get stitches. You know, probably, but she she just thought that that would be you know, like she's she didn't know for sure, but that was worre she was leaning. Anyway, I finally just hung up on it because I was fixing the pass out. So I go and get in the shower and I'm like, I got to rense this thing out. Well, like I don't want to look at it, so I'm just like holding it in the water, like looking at the wall, you know, and I get I'm having like lean on the wall and like almost thrown up, almost passing out. I stayed in there for like thirty minutes and watched the thing out. Apparently did a good job because it has not been affected at all. It's actually hurt more today than it has at all. But this is probably scab pulling around stuff. You know, it's good and hard scabbed up. It looks great. Yeah, I mean it hadn't even gotten red around it or nothing. Man. 00:52:32 Speaker 3: Well, the good news is you already kind of have like a thumb thing, so it's not going to affect your bow shooting or anything because it's already like that anyways. 00:52:39 Speaker 1: So well, and you know, I was thinking about this. It's probably cleaner inside that deer. Oh yeah, I mean you think about a mature buck. Fine, yeah, that's exactly right. The mature buck has lived till six years old. Like he's probably a pretty healthy stepsuck. You think that's what he was, Yeah, I do, Yeah, I think he was. I think he was four or whenever. 00:52:58 Speaker 3: That's probably one optimum out there six or seven, right, I mean it's when they're. 00:53:03 Speaker 1: Gonna have their whe I Jack was seven and that was his biggest rack. Yep so, and it all depends on food. Yeah, I was thinking about this a little bit different deal. You know, you talked about that deer, how he's a lot smaller last year. 00:53:13 Speaker 3: I think the drought really did affect the deal too a lot. I do too, after some other stuff that's been revealed to us. Was all about that later. But uh, yeah, so it's a great new It wasn't as bad a drought this. 00:53:25 Speaker 1: Year, and the antlers looked really good. Yeah, talk a little bit more about what this deer really is. Well, I don't know if he is what I thought he was, but I told you guys, I think I had some bad math. But he's he's his frame is huge, man like. Uh, he's basically like if if to just help you picture it, he's a he's a one sixties type deer main beams and width wise, but his times are on the short side. So I don't know if he's gonna be in the one sixties or not. I don't think he will be, but he's he's he's got with my dad. He like carried you know, he had on his blind key. He has like a key chain that's attached to a little tape measuring, you know, and so he had its pocket when he showed up, and he measured the beams and just like quick measurement. I bet they're longer than this actually when you do it with string and stuff, but with a metal tape. He did twenty three inch beams and his twenty he was we didn't even measure his why disappointing his twenty inches wide. So he's yeah, but his D two's are you know, nine, maybe ten. They're not like very next super tall like eleven's and twelves. You're talking about talking about like mid one sixties. Probably. 00:54:39 Speaker 3: That's where I look at my deer from last year, and I originally thought he would break sixty. And I just don't know because times of a little it's that drought year. Yeah, you know, kind of it's like who knows what that. 00:54:49 Speaker 1: Deer might have would have had on a well, he had good bases, and he kind of thinned out, and you can see almost like as the summer goes on, he's not quite getting the same nutrition he had early on and you can. 00:54:59 Speaker 3: See even this isn't about my deer from last year, but you can see like on the end of his main beams they almost look unfinished. 00:55:05 Speaker 1: They're kind of you know. Yeah, that's interesting. I hadn't thought of it. Not a pointy yep, Yeah, for sure, as it is. Man, and that the grass the range looks good out there. Oh, Man, covers crazy they've got, Like I think June was just a banner month. I think it's been kind of dry since. But they had enough to carry through. 00:55:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we drove through there, you know, doing some truck camera stuff. I couldn't believe how many some flowers or were. 00:55:26 Speaker 1: Oh, it was awesome. Yeah. I wish it was like that every year. Guarantee, you dude, the amount of deer in the landscape if that was the cover every year would be unbelieved. Ranger, But that's like I have never seen it quite. 00:55:36 Speaker 3: Maybe getting back into it man because cyclicol Yeah, it's pretty sweet. 00:55:40 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Ye. Well, congrats on the Big Buck. Thanks to you can put that. 00:55:43 Speaker 2: Brown time back on there for you. 00:55:44 Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, I heard, I heard. Uh, we got more Big Buck stories to tell. We're a little bit behind right now because we did all the Q and A stuff and yeah, we've been hunting a bunch, so we're trying to catch up on these stories. We got a couple more four you and then we'll get into like what's gonna happen at Thanksgiving and afterwards. So I'm really excited. Uh there's still a lot of good deer hunting ahead, man, So absolutely pretty pumped. But yeah, thanks guys for listening. Don't forget that the sale is going on the Meteor website with the first light and all that. 00:56:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, give us some love on social this week. 00:56:19 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:56:19 Speaker 2: You know this is a podcast and you'll met it to the end of it, so that means you love us. 00:56:23 Speaker 1: Uh, be open and honest with you. 00:56:25 Speaker 3: We don't like having to do the sale promotion stuff too much, but you know you do this for a living now for this man. 00:56:31 Speaker 2: That's right. 00:56:31 Speaker 1: Man. 00:56:32 Speaker 3: Everything, it doesn't matter if it's the well coffee you drink in the morning, you know. Yeah all that. So, uh, you're gonna see some social stuff from us. We're try to make it as a lot harder as we can, but if you can help us, show us some love on that stuff. 00:56:46 Speaker 2: And it's just all have fun. Yeah, you know, that'll be that'll be given. 00:56:49 Speaker 1: We also have like a link that you can work through if you want to go to the website, we'll be you'll be seeing on a lot of our posts and stories and stuff. Yeah, if you go through that link it Uh, let's people know that Steve didn't sell everything, you know. 00:57:02 Speaker 2: Hey and legit. 00:57:04 Speaker 3: This is maybe as more of a consumer than a guy who sells the stuff. But like the prizes on some of the stuff right now is real good. Yeah, and you know, like as a little insight, there's new stuff coming out at some point in time. You've probably have seen it in some of our posts that we can't talk about it, but that means that, like some of the stuff that from from this past year is really discounted and really good stuff. You know, the new stuff is cool and new, but it ain't like revolutionary compared to what you got right now. 00:57:30 Speaker 2: So go buy that stuff at forty percent off and you'll be rocking and rolling. 00:57:33 Speaker 1: Sure, dude, there's some cool stuff coming out there. 00:57:36 Speaker 2: There's piece that we like things really cool. 00:57:40 Speaker 1: No, but it's it's exciting. They're they're working hard on that stuff. Actually, man, I've been I've been excited to get some of that stuff, like into the public eye a little bit. 00:57:49 Speaker 3: So pretty exciting, but kind of fuzzy. 00:57:53 Speaker 1: Vical's favorite song. 00:57:56 Speaker 3: Well, guys, remember to hang out with your family, don't worry too much about that camera app and all that stuff. 00:58:01 Speaker 2: And remember this is your element. 00:58:12 Speaker 3: M