00:00:00 Speaker 1: I'm Casey and you're listening to podcast. What's going on? Everybody? Welcome to the Ellow Podcast. I'm your host, Casey Smith, and I've got Tyler Jones here as well as well as a plethora of folks in the room. In fact, we might just need to go around the here living room and just introduce people. Professional cameramin extraordinary, Michael Stole. Yeah, I'm Brian. Just go by Brian. I'm talking about from family Guy or just Okay, I'm Greg. I'm Broadhead Rick Broadhead Rick, that's hand for year. We've seen some things that Broadhead this this week, Um, we are in South Texas doing sufficient, doing some hunting doing Uh do you mean gathering at all? I don't think we gathered anything meat. Yeah, well that's back to the hunting. I guess we did gather something. You had to go and get some. So so it's been an eventful week. Um. And I think that really the theme of what um we have going on is that like man, when you live this, it never stops. You know. There's some people around they're talking about how hunting season is over, and man, we're still shooting stuff. I mean, goalie, there may have been a white tail shot this week. I'm sure we'll talk a little bit about that. There's been some aras flying, they've some arrows flung, and uh so you can always find a way get out there and get after it. Um, guys, did you expect for this week to be as cool as it is? Je Michael is not answering. He's got some technical difficulties. Yeah, Eric Man, I had one of the most fun trips I've ever been on period. That's cool. And you didn't get summer. I am very thankful I kept enough sunscreen on me this week. You didn't even be nobody in basketball. Hey, Brian was challenging me. But you want to do it? Listen, I have not put paddle to ping yet. We might have to do that. No, don't act like that's gonna happen. Po No, that's not gonna happen, because you were just saying how tired you are. We gonna get this podcast fired up now, all right. I forgot about the ping pong. You're supposed to show us how to play jungle pong. It has been because there wasn't much time where we were all together here and I like this I like this guy to play ping pong. You just keep this on track. Gathering me and Ja, Michael did, Hey, that's together. We're Hunderson gathering a crispy feeling as we gathered together. In fact, there might even be a sign in this house. Is no, there's a bunch of basic white girls signs hanging up in his house. Everything is figured out, said, how about that? Yeah? Um, what's the one over the kitchen has best blessed this house and all who enter? Yeah, thanks, Karen. Hey, if you're not taking advantage of some of these rental like digital rental apps, I don't know if we should give this tip away. Man, I think it works. It's a good thing. Prices are gonna increase, man, such thing is pretty market well it's nothing nothing to get today's world, for sure, but uh, you should you should take a look at that, because if we all stayed in a Rady motel would take at least three beds comfortably six right now, as far as I know, I go in my room and go to sleep. So I don't know what you'all are doing when you're sleeping arrangements too much, But as far as I know, everyone's sleeping in their own spot. Brian really wants one of us. I know. Oh, and I don't know how often you have obliged to the puddles. I have seen some pictures, but we're all sleeping very comfortably for a very very respectable rate. And I think that, even against Tyler's better judgment, we're going to tell people that's a good idea to maybe look around if you're on a hunting trip, because guess what, whenever you rest good and you eat good and you get the shower, you perform better. You become peak performance. We have performed this week, we have. That's what I feel like. Actually, it's just a performer on YouTube. Just perform for people like a circus dog. That's all I do. Just you'll just tell me you're a trick and I do it. You know, it's like yeah, and it's exactly like it's the same value too. How thing about this the other day, I put like lots of effort into editing these things. People don't care. People think I'm a clown, no matter if I work hard at it or not. And they're just they're not nearly as as passionate about my hunt as I am. Okay, but I was just saying, I'm just saying, uh that, I'm just not gonna edit anything anymore. That's what I'm saying. That's a good idea. Just has some real long videos. Fotge Man, Yeah, it'd be cool. Um well, all John catch this week? We caught a lot. We ended up catching redfish, trout, flounder, state record, piggy perch um in large numbers. Do you don't catching lady fish? No? Not one? How about that? I think this is probably the first weight fishing trip I've ever gone on and not caught them fish and fish. Yeah, because of the cooler weather, like the men fish blues been in menphish before. I actually barbecue there. There's a big pyramid. That's how I got to men fish. Oh my goodness, it's just joke after joke. We can't stay on track. It's all right, let's go around the room. If you had to eat one or the other, Neil guy steaks or redfish filet's how in the half shell? No guy, for sure. I think um noga was good, but man, I read fish was good. I'll probably go with red half shell fish. That's a tough decision because they were so good, or just eat on both every time. That's what that's the I mean, we did not use the phrase once. Weird terrible at being cliche. Well game changer, surf and turf, surf and turf, somebody said it. Huh somebody said it out there? Did they don't remember? I only know what that is. That makes sense. Remember if I did, like, you don't know what that is? Surf and turf would imply that you're eating a uh type of animal from both of the surf and turf clever. Yeah, it's usually in most applications, I think it's shrimp and steak, but not always so Yeah, yeah, I like it. I love it. Yeah, I love it. Um. We did the old half shehill red fish thing, which was cool. Uh. I learned how to do that whenever I lived on the coast. You've had it, I guess at a restaurant or wherever you had it, half shell, just tearing there. It's a tasty thing. And um, I always found an interest in that. Red fish were uh considered kind of a trash fish until about the fifties when some I can't remember all the details this, but some chef I think in New Orleans UH kind of pushed the black and red fish as a thing. I might actually have a book by that shif Jamie look uh so, but I prefer I mean there's a so it's like a deal, right. Like they're like treated like carp pretty much like nobody messed with them. And it's kind of weird because they do have big old scales kind of like a carp. But that is not carp meat that we were eating out there. That is delectable. Uh And it's so simple too, right, It's a neat application because they're so easy to flay. You just just right off, leave the scales on, cook them skin side do and you never flip them. The scales protect the meat and also like the oil in the fish naturally permeates up through the meat and just absolutely makes it one of the tasties things there is little Tony's Little butter little lemon. Damn, I forgot the limit on mine. Dude. You missed out big time. You did miss out big time. Yeah, what's the most interesting thing that you saw on this trip? Interesting thing that I saw? That would be one green ja, I believe it would be the most interesting thing. I'm a burger as you know, so that's a life for for me. You have to go South Texas to see green jay's and um, we happen to see one while we're out, um looking around kind of scouting for animals, and all of a sudden, I became a burger instead of a hunter. Uh. And Tyler was all about it too. Man, it was awesome. That fit. That bird was awesome, Like the colors were insane. See more of those too. I think we could if we actually worked at it, but we then started hunting. It's like a lot of our well intentioned things we do, we have like this uh, utilitarian mentality. When we take trips, we're gonna trying to maximize, Like, oh, we have to go to you know, uh, Colorado, we might as well go a day early and fish over here something, you know, and just that's how you end up real tired with a lot of wrinkles. But then we end up just hammering down on the hunting and not gonna do quite as much as of the other stuff. Is what you might like. But you know, I do love to hunt, so I'm not complaining too much about Michael. What about you? The most interesting thing I saw prickly pair on the beach. Yeah, that was weird to see. Yea I saw some tonight. I just thought the same thing. I didn't think it was super weird because I've seen it, but like I thought, man, that's right on the beach for sure, right. Um, I think there was a lot of interesting things. So you get to this country in South Texas and it looks so rugged and rough and you wonder how something can even live in it, and it's so rich and wildlife. But it's always interesting to me to look at that country and I think that nothing could live in it, and you just see wildlife everywhere. So, um, I think one of the coolest things I did see those osprey. Um. I don't see him very often, and um, there's always been a bird that's interested me. So I noticed something about osprey this week. I haven't heard this, so it might be, uh, you know, just a coincidence type deal. But it seems like osprey always turned their catch aerodynamically when they fly. Makes sense. They anytime you see an osprey flying, and it's not like a bald eagle with a salmon, you know, it's cross ways. They fly with the mullet head facing forward. They like turn their feet and did you see some flying with my really awesome Yeah. We also saw Characs fight to the death. You remember that. Yeah, they got weird. Weird. Do you ever see us pread up you're home? Uh like four every once in a while. I don't think i've that that I can remember ever seen. Yeah, there's yeah, it's something worth note. And when you see them for sure, when I lived on the coast, I saw him a whole bunch, so I kind of don't think too much about him anymore. But yeah, they're cool. They are neat hawks. They have success rates as high seventy sometimes, I believe it. When they die dive seventy percent of the time. They they up to seventy percent of the time they can come up with a fish. It's wild. Great. Um, I have to go with the sting rays. I've never seen sting rays before. It's cool. Interesting almost stepping on him and I poked one the fly rod to night. Really. Yeah, they're cool, that's cool. I like them. Am I up? And probably what I saw the h GB parking lot today riding a bike. Oh you're talking about the Fuji guerrilla. Yeah, we won't go into details about that, but the first morning, so that's not a the answer, that's not your okay, but it was interesting for sure. Uh. First morning we all went to like try to find a good fishing spot, and uh where we went, we saw multiple white tailed bucks on the beach, good ones and that about that pretty interesting. It's cool what tails on the white Sandy beach is interesting? Yeah, it's neat Tyler, three million ticks. I thought about that too, because interesting is a broad term, right. It could be something that interests you, or could be something that's like, oh man, I think actually though, Uh, they're cool birds or neat man. The old Central American pheasant, what's it called? Chocolate bird? Chaca locker, chocola locka. I don't really know for sure. I've never heard anybody for sure. Have you heard Chaka? Mostly it's just like call them. People don't talk about him. I mean don't hear people talking about him. So it's not like you know what circus dog or something you know people talk about all the time. That's rights raucous. We came down here to do some hunting and of course do some fishing. We got both of them done. Uh, Tyler, tell me about the hunting down here? Um, I would say, you know you and you know I went hunting. Um, there's a lot of different things. Like um Brian mentioned earlier, there's so much wildlife and diversity down here. Um. I mean at some point you stop seeing a whole lot of freezes happen when you start heading south in Texas and you get to this, you get to this country where um, things can live, you know almost you know you can you even get to almost like a subtropical climate where um, there's there's not many freezes and it's also like no hotter than it is where we're from. Really you know, it's still just same hot or whatever as they say. So um, you know youve got like a ton of different animals. Um, you have a lot of bird migration that come through here. You've got as they mentioned, we we got you know, bunch of fish in the sea. Um. And so like if you're just asking generally about hunting down here, then it's, uh there's lots of opportunity depending on where and what you're doing. And uh, we had access to place that you can hunt a lot of things. But we were after deer and this thing called a Neil guy which you alluded to. Will it go um? And it sounds as if um, there's a hypothetical nil guy steak floating around that we've talked about. Maybe maybe that will come into fruition. I mean we got access because it's public land. Yeah, and so I mean it's not like we're on a ranch down here or anything. Um, we have been down here hunting in public land for deer, like Casey mentioned and uh, Neil Gower by a product of what can happen, um, and so yeah, we've just been deer hunting down here in January because it ain't over yet. What are the deer doing, Duddy right now? Uh, they're kind of in a post rut phase where there you see some lockdown happening. Um, it's not really locked down what we've seen at least, but it's more like a um it's like a very uh close dynamic between Bucks and Does where you'll have like a nice buck that just is following Does but maybe yards behind them, but just locked into him, you know what I mean, and just shadowing him. As Casey said, what did y'all see when you said you saw his bucks on the beach? Did it look more like the real lockdown top deal? That's pretty much what he was saying early November in East Texas just kind of following them around. You know, they were following them. We've seen some bucks possibly fighting and pushing each other off. It was really cool. Um, what don't look at me? Like? I remember we were driving and y'all said one buck had went over to where another buck was, and then we turned around and came back, and you know they're both going a separate way like they possibly just fought. Um. We did see one buck betted down right next to a dough um, you know, within ten yards, and usually you know it's good sign. I think they're with them super close. But I didn't see them. I didn't. We didn't see uh bucks like pushing dose into weird places and and just locking them down or anything, or were they running does around them? Lots of cruising. Still, we have such a mean obviously this is like from home, it's it's this way, but it's even the more south you go, probably even more this way. But like we have such a kind of it's not an intense winter climate. So the shoulders of the rut are just way more sloping, you know, it's way more gentle slope. We don't have just like a week where it goes nuts, but instead, you know, there the window that fonds can be borne in is pretty much year round, and so you know that is weird to think about. They don't have to be bred in one week so that it you know, isn't too late and isn't too early or whatever. It's weird how parts of Texas have uh just weird rut dates that when I say rut dates, I mean pete breeding dates that um almost don't make a lot of sense. You know, like these habitats are similar, but things will change quite a bit. I mean, some parts of South Texas are uh January and some parts of South Texas are September peak reading, which is really strange. Um so. But at the same time, just like what you're saying, pretty much any time of the year that it's cooler months you can end up seeing some sort of rutting at activity. So we're kind of trying to capitalize on that a little bit, especially after what y'all said you saw the first morning, um that y'all are out running around. Was that the first morning that we saw the big buck. No, um no, we ran in to ah, we ran into a young nil guy bull and then we ran into a rut fest Nil Guy whole ranger, and then we also saw some deer. I think there were doze from late in the morning, like eleven o'clock or something. Yeah, Man, it was weird. There was like a late morning movement thing going on. And I don't know if it's just like a low pressure thing or a high pressure thing, or a moon thing or what. What do you think? Um, I feel like that the last couple of days we didn't see nearly as much late movement in deer, and I think that, um, maybe we were hunting way back in and I think that maybe it was low pressure until we made it high pressure and that caused the light to kind of turn off their late movements. But I think that Neil guy move late sometimes because they come from extremely hot climate. They can't they can't really survive long freeze periods um, so they prefer hot temps and so when it gets sunny in the middle the day, we were seeing like increased movement. Yeah, we had one day whenever we had a weather change type day, wind got right out of the north and didn't get cold, but it was cooler and it was cloudy, and we didn't see a Neil guy the rest of the day. Soon's that happened today it was kind of foggy, and as soon as the sun just got bright and started, you started going like, I need to take the sweatshirt off. I'm hot. We started seeing the guy. And then yesterday we saw a bull whenever, I mean right before the clouds broke. And then uh, the day before it was sunny the whole day and the Neil guy bedding down the middle of open out there in the in the field, just eating and playing around. And surely they're gonna get up because they're hot, but they don't. They're not. No, Yeah, it's they're strange cretures. They are man, they're Indian antelope. They're from India, not Native American. Yeah. Now the natives wouldn't know think about a Neil guy running around down here. What ronk was to be like, what is going on? But they'd be extinct like bison, Yeah they would. So we had kind of a a late rep post top thing going on. Uh, you you're not hunted together a lot this week? Um, kind of filming each other. Uh, while these guys went and get some fishing and filming and stuff. Michael, you haven't got called Michael in a while, even list one that was like February. That's Eric's like thing, man, that's what he calls. You forgot about it? Yeah, and go back to it you have. That's he's that's Michael on your phone, isn't it? And then his name change it. That's just Michael. He changed it was Michael, just Michael. Just that's not even a name for him, is it. He's old man's history in mine? So baby, listen, that's what I am in yours. Yeah, it's funny. Um. Michael was the caraman this week for the Fishing Escapade. Oh he was the cameraman. Huh. I thought he was the belly acre because the Georgia thing that we're not talking about that we are kind of looks like stetson Ben. I don't know if he's like five. I do not look like him. You got his feet. It's hard being OSU fan, man. Teams are bad. Here's here's the thing about being Ohio State Ohio State fan is that every year you do so well on the Big Ten and you think you got the best team in the world because all the sports guys talk about how big good the Big Ten is because they're all from they cant's exactly what they do and uh, and then you feel like coming out of the Big Ten, like, oh gosh, dude, we crush some people and really there was like one other team that was any good in the Big Ten and you know you had a close game with just in the playoffs this year. Yeah, and then from that point you go to the playoffs and you're just really your spirits get crushed. Really clowns is what they're going to think. Clowns. They turn it on your own it is. Yeah, you need to make a kick. It's a job. Just think of the quarterback with the play better, you wouldn't be in that position. Yeah, but you would think that dude's entire job is to kick a ball. Dude, think you can do it. The QB's entire job is to complete a pass. What was his pastor If there's anything I could agree with you on, I think that kickers. Kickers aren't dumb. I think kicking is dumb. Do you want to take it out of the game. I think you should be taking out the game. Really, yeah, hacking out of the game. Would we still call it football? Why should we have one guy come in who hasn't been in at all the whole game, and he either gets to win or lose the game for all the guys who are blood, sweat and tears. What would you call it? What would you call the game? Would you call the game? You can? We call it football because the kickers in the game touches the ball your hands. Yeah, but because they kick it. No, yeah, that's not it has to be they barely. Yeah, that's how the change possessions. Like, yeah, it's with the foot, but you only touch the ball the foot a couple of times a game. Yeah, yeah, so you could have called it handball and it would have been more appropriate. You would still kick off. I don't think kickoffs are important either. They've literally they've gotten rid of kickoff. The whole meeting of kickoffs. Nobody ever runs kickoffs because they moved them up so far. It's like a formality. That's stupid. What about points? Punts? What about them? What do you ask we still have punts? Would we still have punts? I don't think kicking needs to be in the game, but um, I don't have like a huge problem with punts. I think kickoffs are stupid because they nobody ever runs them back. And I think that, um, a guy should not come in at the end of the game to win or lose the game for an entire team of dudes that have been playing the whole game, I think, I think if they're going to kick it, then maybe they should have, like somebody who's been playing the whole game do it, instead of some guy who's cold and looks nothing like anybody else in that field. I do like I'm not a d H fan, so I do like that, like that idea, somebody who's already been in the game has to kick it, yea, So it makes sense. That makes sense to me. I still like the kicking game, though, I mean I played a lot of I played all the kicking positions or not positions. But uh, however, you want to say that I played return and punt and return, but and and it's fun. It's super challenging, especially I was frontline, Uh, kickoff return guy. You want to talk about a hard position when we actually returned kicks, be a front dude on the front middle. We had to me and the other biggest safety we had. Where the guys are in the front middle and you have to run. You have to wait to make sure they don't onside kick it right, so you can't leave early. And then you have these guys who are four or five to thirty five two forties running at you, their second team linebackers that are mad they haven't been in the game something and they want to just run you over to prove their to their coach that they should be in the game game right. And so they're literally running seven yards behind you the whole time, and you have to turn around and flip and and like run backwards at the same speed they're running forwards, and like receive the blow not gett knocked off your feet and then redirect and if you can do that well and you're doing it, and that's what that's what we did. We got to where we could do it pretty well too, but that was later in the same of the least glorious position to be on kick return like blocking, Oh dude, giant too. Linebackers man, just terrible people. But yeah, so we should definitely reconsider the kicking game in football for sure. And I could careless and we call it football, by the way, what do you want to call it that I want? I don't know. I would think you could call it Bennet ball or something like that. Man, Michael would think that was a pretty good idea dog ball. I just give us your best, give us your best. Let's do it was start with Georgia. Start with Georgia. It's more like a Okay, that's Georgia. Okay, hold on, let it more like a look at his face, his lips fall off. The best one, Georgia. Again, I've never heard a bulldog bark like that. Well, they're not really bulldogs, so you just call himself that. Mm hmmm, y'all not really buck eyes. Uh no, we're really buck but guys, guys, guys, we're bucket guys. But guy, wasn't that your old YouTube channel? But guys, guys, that's it happened. That was actually just the dog. Guys. I've been there man for sure. Some years you're glad to be do guys. Some years you just can't get it done. Man. The last speaking get it done, you shot a dog on the ground in Arkansas? Yeah, um, where do you go? Man? Thanks? Manum, I didn't do that. I hadn't killed anything. So remember eight what a loser? Uh but uh so from then you have not hung in a tree for over a month and of hunted quite a bit, right, right, Yeah, since then you're saying hasn't been a month since then? Though, mm hmm, I don't think so what did you kill in here? Thing? It isn't like the it's like days six or seven of the hunt, wasn't it. And we started on the eighth. M hmm, yeah, around about a month. But a lot of ground hunting in there is what I'm trying to get at. So, uh, hunting from the ground is one of those funny things that kind of gets grouped into like just this one deal Mark, can't you even you get at this too? He yea grouping grouping, Yeah, for sure, he's a groupie. Uh. But really there's a lot of intricacies to ground hunting. There's a lot of different things about it. Greg, You've spent a good amount of town hunting from the ground. A lot of yours is ambush style, right, yeah, yeah, trying to stay hidden in ambush yards. Is that where you're like stillness comes from? Yah? Hunt ambush style on the ground. It's true, man, it is true. No. And then um, there's like spotting stalk type stuff that we do out west sometimes. Um, but this week was I don't know. It's a kind of a mixture of the two. What do you call it. It's like make moves right. And then the thing that we kind of like kind of like mixing spot and stalk and in bush because it's like you we're hunting brush brush country stuff where there's like the ability to weave in and out and kind of stay hidden but in move locations, but you're still kind of ambushing at the same time. And it works pretty good whenever you can stay hidden, and then at any point in time it will translate into one or the other of those types of hunts. So like, for instance, I did a spotting stalk on a neil guy and got spotted on the stalk. About it happens. It happens a lot. It ain't easy. Um, when you're crawling on your hands and knees across the marsh, senior or later, they're gonna spot your booty sticking up in the air because it hurts, and uh, that happened to me. The booty hurt. Oh my knees hurt though. Um. But at the same time we're sitting up for something like that, and then what your booty heard you said my knees hurt. But Michael made a funny face that he does that a lot. Uh, so you successfully completed an ambush? Yeah I did. Yeah, yeah said that question. That's a throw it to you. I got you. I heard a conversation. I just, I just it's weird what you got four people looking at you. I did, I did. I did successfully ambush something. Um. We were sitting in a We're sitting in some tall grass that we had seen some deer do uh do the splits by the other day. Actually, I stalked. I did to one of those spots talks that you talked about where you get spotted on this stalk the day before and got spotted by uh. That was the biggest buck if everybody a chance at Texas Moves top deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because they were moving and so you were moving. Yeah. I had like I needed to I needed to gain over a hundred yards probably, And I got all the way to this dude. I had to wait till the does got by. He was shadowing these does. And I got all the way to him, and you know where I needed to be, and I was set up. I arranged this yucka when I say, yucko. We're talking about like a eight foot yucka UM tall I range I arranged at fifty four, and UM, I set my pen to fifty and he starts to walk out and um. He literally like turns his head and within a half second he takes off running like there was no hesitation at all. It's it was weird because like usually we get spotted in the open, we at least get a hesitation of a few seconds, and it was not even a second. You don't have time to draw, right, No, I never drew. I mean he'd literally like as soon as he looked over he saw me. I was in some tall grass. I was on the edge of it, but at the same time, like I shouldn't have been silhouetted or anything, and it was being still, and he just I thought it was meaning still was at least and he just took off. Maybe he saw my hand moving, my arm moving or something. I don't know, but anyway, it was just surprising to me that he didn't like look and try to figure me out. I just took off. You brought up big Buck an interesting thing about that talking about the shadows. Yeah, how that you think that shadows give you away a lot on the ground. Yeah, sunny days are super tough, um for for spotting stalks type stuff. Sometimes well open country, you know, like um just because like you get into get into like a grass in habitat all, your shadows are the size like a finger and less and they're broken right, And then all of a sudden there's this dude who's got like you know, whatever side of the shoulders are on. A dude casting a shadow that's a foot and a half wide or whatever, or has the dark side shadowed side of him that's not broken up, and it doesn't matter like what camo you have on or anything. I mean, you're casting a giant shadow. So I felt like it was kind of obvious that think there was a big object there that didn't exist anywhere else around. So now there are yuccas around, but not where I was. I was on the edge of those yuccas, out away from them. Yeah, you know what else too. I think this has kind of come to a light for me this year a lot. But we are fooling ourselves, like pretty heavily if we don't give the deer enough credit for them to have the landscape memorized. Oh, yeah, especially right there. Yeah, there was a hardcore trail that here, and they go down to every day of their life for a whole lot, and they don't live as long as we do, but their whole existence is to survive so they can breed. They do their best to survive. And it's weird if you and I go into a spot, like multiple times we will go to the past the same trees when you're when I'm walking behind you, I mean, you like just go to the same spot. It's like you remember the way in and how you did it and everything. You go the same way every time. And I just feel like, if you can do that the deer for sure, sure, you know for sure. But the contrary to that is that we had this yucka that we kept calling the crossbow hunter because we kept on seeing this thing out in the pasture and the profile of a guy standing up with a crossbow and had a head at a crossbow man everything, and we still, even though though we knew that was there, would still be like, what, you know, the kits in the corner of Brianna think there's a dude out there, and so like we aren't as good at it as they are. They're really good at like they knew, they know that's not a crossbow hunter and they see it, you know. But I guess kind of bring that back around to your stock. Like I was filming you, and um, you didn't look like you stood out too bad. And I think it was just because that deer has a mental picture of what it should look like where you were and it was different. And he said, no things. Yeah, well it's public land too, so who knows who's been back there hunting, you know, and and how many people he's seen, because he's a really nice buck. Um. But anyway, we that grass that I had to move to, his tall grass I had to move to to get to him. We started to kind of snoop around and figured out like this is where a lot of deer coming. So we end up getting in the grass. And the next morning and we're sitting there and we got bucks right off, Like we get in early, right, we decided we've been getting in too late. We're gonna get in early. We get in there in the dark. Um, we set up and and I it just starts to get lined up to where I can glass stuff like a hundred yards and start seeing deer long story short, we see I think a couple of bucks. They get them into kind of a dough rout fest. And two does I think got weird or something because of us early on, and they worked their way over to this rout fest and then started flagging for some reason, like those are weirdos man. Fifteen minutes after they had left us hundreds of yards away, they start flagging and getting weird over there. They hadn't flagged when they smelled us or sauce or whatever happened. Anyway, mess the whole thing up, take everything and carry them back into the woods, you know, way away from us, and we're like, Dad comments, So we sit down kind of rest our backs and legs, and we're sitting like on two sides of the bush, on the shady side, and uh, we're close. We're within probably like four are three or four yards of each other, but not right next to each other in these little holes in the grass. Well, I'm sitting there, I'm like start to hear something. I'm like, what is this? Is this a bird or something? And you know, you don't say anything at first to your buddy because you don't want to be the guy who's always like I think I hear something, you know, whatever, because then your buddy never believes you gets the boy who cried wolf, right. Well, So I listened to it for a while and um, and so it starts like it sounds big, and I start to hear it even better, and I look over at case and I'm like, hey, I think I hear something over here, dude, and um, So I kind of get up on my knees, super quiet, still pretty early. It's like probably eight o'clock, maybe not quite maybe a little bit later at eight, and I get up on my knees and I start to look in this grass, tall grass right beside me. I can't see any any big animal right. I'm looking, looking, looking for minutes and finally I don't hear it for a while, so I kind of like sit back down in my haunch just and uh. I basically kind of start hearing the noise again and peek over and Casey at this point it's kind of lost interest in the thing too, And I hear the noise again and peek over and I see a rack like really close and like just above the grass at you know, twenty yards and he's like getting getting closer. You know, and I'm like, you know, I don't know. Casey can probably tell what I said about this is funny there. So there's an intensity that you have to convey in moments like this because if you don't, then the other gunment like, oh, where's the dera And he's like twenty yards right, So you have to convey this. And just now, Tyler just kind of a don't move thing, you know. Uh, okay, I'll just say how it went. Um. So I'm like messing around, I don't know, fiddling with a stick or something, and uh, Tyler goes, yeah, funny enough, it's called a bow. Um. Uh, Tyler says, don't do not move. I probably even more intense than that. And there's a buck right here. Um freaked me out, me out, and like we're in an open country and this there's eighteen yards from the snug up on this dude, and we're just around this bush just like, oh my goodness, and I can't see it at all. Which was the funny part where Tyler was like, tell me, don't move. It was like, dude, I don't they're jumping Jackson rolling around. He wouldn't even know. Um, but that was the cue for me to go into cameraman. But at that point, because there was no way I wasn't gonna shoot this thing, and I was really hoping you would. So uh, I did a little filming. Yeah, so I um, I finally kind of got my bearing on what he was doing a little bit where he was at, and I kind of turned around. I duck down a little bit, turned around real slow to Casey and and realized he was filming. So I never told you, like you could move or anything. But because normally we were like, you let the guy know, but I was I took the civil liberty of saying, this deer can't see me, go ahead and move, So y'all don't do that, okay. I was willing to accept the repercussions. And you do see pretty well, so you see a lot of things. But um, anyway, so the buck is like just fiddle sticking around right there, you know. And uh, and he's got his I can see his top of his head and his antlers and stuff, you know, and he and I can see see him he eating grass and stuff, and he I see this this gap in between these big, huge like switch grasses, and he's kind of like in the middle of that thing, and I ranged this yuck at nineteen yards and he's like in front of it, and I'm like, dad coming and he's he's I think he's like kind of going. Uh. He was going left right when we first saw him, and now he's kind of like going right to left, and so um, basically like he he I see his shoulders come in uh to the gap, and um, I draw back and then I'm like, I cannot see him very good. I need to get a better look. I stand up and I barely can see him even better, but I can see what his silhouette is. I feel like, and uh, I can't. I think I asked Casey if he was ready or something, and basically shot and he just jumped straight up in the air out of the grass, like straight up, not like mule kick, you know, leaning forward or nothing. He was like like Jack in the box looking thing, and he's got a hole the size of a baseball in his neck. And I was really surprised, but I think what ended up happening is he was coming left or right. And we we found this out later and we went and looked for the arrow, but the trail like dead ended and came right to us, and he might have been coming to bed at you know, near us. But I in in a long story trying shooting this deer in the neck instead of the shoulder. I was, I was trying to shoot through both shoulders and get you know, because it's these are small deer. These are you know, tiny basically coastal deer right, um, Gulf coast plain deer. And anyway, he runs really fast for about ten yards and then just starts to pile up wild. I mean, died so quick it wasn't even funny and we were just like in shock. It's really cool deal. He's he's a just a super nice representative of the species. Not a huge deer, but like a good solid deer for that for this area. Uh, pretty much a seven. He's got a G three on one side' you know, a point, but it's not like measurable. I guess so um, I don't know. Well, I was stoked, Thanks dude, I got cool buck man. I shooting another public land. He has the South Texas look, you know, like I really like, uh, what's that like auburn? Or like what's that color of his head? You know, it's like kind of a chocolate he brown, but a little bit of red, super dark, and it's got yeah, it's got like a lot of red around the sides of it and stuff. Yeah, I'm just like, I don't know, like a deep amber or whatever. I mean, just really really cool South Texas looking buck with the dark head and everything. Um, you're really interesting. That looks like the deer had been hit by a car. Potentially. I thought he had been shocked. He had like just like a quarter sized hole with no hair on it on one side. When I flipped it over, he had actually had two on the other side. And then one of his hoofs had these weird like scrapes that had healed up on it. So I think he might have been hit by a car or something that was weird, or he got caught in a fence. I just thought. I thought about that too, um, because I thought about that when I saw his hoof. But I just was like, Oh, how does you know, how do you fur get all messed up like that? I don't know. But we actually saw it deal there before we saw a deer the limp at distance. Yeah, he was limping. That's another thing I noticed when I when I saw him coming in or whatever. So um, but yeah, anyway, I was really surprised that the shot didn't just blow through the shoulders, but I think he was. I think he had like turned towards me or something like that. So definitely, you know, blessed have made a super lethal shot. But we, uh, we actually packed him up and put him all in one bag, one pack, right, Yeah, you carried the did I carry all of it? I had car four the backstraps in mind, which yeah, we're small. I carried four quarters and the head and carry it in one of the first slight packs that we have. It's not even like a frame pack, and carried him out. That's how small they are, you know. But UM got him out, and then we realized that the Fellers were fishing fools. Brian, tell us how you became such a good fisherman, um Man, what do y'all want to know? I want to know story? Just the first fish, fish Ryan, my first fish. I couldn't remember. I'm not supprised. I don't know. Um. When I was younger, I grew up on Twaking, so my grandparents lived there and I lived with them, you know most of the time. Um, and I did a lot of fishing as a young child. He's like a food or it is a Indian tribe. Um, you grew up on lake ye know? So how they do that? Just shovels stone? What my first fish was? I got? Okay, So my my question for you is, actually, um, what's tell us about? I want to hear about the like how you ended up finding some fish because the first morning y'all kind of struggle a little bit. And what changed after that? Because you you caught you caught a pretty big trout off the bat right first. First, so let's let's go back to talking about where we're going. I kind of got on some maps and was looking for some public access wade fishing. Knew the water would be pretty clear and be a good fishing maps. You know where you're using? You got on some onyx map. How about that? Some some snooping around? It's Onyx fish hunh it's on fish about So with without giving anything away about location, how how are you able to find something that's public access? What are you looking for on We did a public access beach area and then we did a public access boat ramp um for accesses? Are you using a little logo that shows that there's a boat launch there, so they it's actually the boat ramp was labeled and the public access beach was labeled that's going there. I think it was an umbrella on the beach. Was their their little logo. Um. So yeah, and that was when we got when we were driving down here. Um. The first area that we went to, we um it was a big grass flat, massive grass flat. And as soon as we got out there, I noticed there wasn't much difference in anything out there was all the same depth, real thick grass, hard bottom. Um. And there's for you for you all save that for here in a second, not that more. He was trying to make some kind of bald spot depressions. We're going to get there, um. And so we were actually fixing a leaf and we pulled up the maps, I don't know its maps and started looking and just to the east of us was a dredged area that this U boat ramp was using private boat ramp was using, and so we decided to go fish in it. In the very first cast into this dredged area, I caught a really good trout. We ended up fishing it for a little while and caught what else will we catch. Eric caught a red red that morning, which you catch it right on, Eric, which is iranic a Texas rig what plastic worm? Plastic worm? And that's why, that's why I was starting there a revolution. He did pull some fish out on the Texas rig worm this week. Um, that was your first word fish. It was how many spots didn't have? Like four bunch? Are you gonna get epica made? Yeah you are, No, I'd be cool, It would be cool, especially with all the spots on it. Little did he know he was about to catch a hundred more. So y'all had y'all had a lot we did. We switched some things up. Um. We kind of used what we learned from that first spot to find another spot. And um, so I was trying to find dredges or ditches or whatever. We we started looking for flat grass flats. Was something different in them and it dredged areas, um, sand spots, um, stuff like that. Just something different within these massive flats. And we found them. And from then on we caught a lot of fish, um on just about anything we could throw at them. Greg, what were you catching fish on? I was catching on just any cast swim bait. Oh, I caught the first couple I caught on a live bait mullet. But what about that? Oh yeah, y'all had trouble finding bait, didn't you? We did? We and both spots that we went to or I'm sorry. The first first caught quite a few mullet with cast net until we wanted to fish with it. Then it disappeared. But the spot we caught all the fish in, we had a hard time find him smaller finger sized mullet um. There was a There was scattered large mullet throughout these grass flats. And when I say large, I'm talking twelve to fourteen inch mullet um. There wasn't a lot of smaller mullet any crazy how big mullet can get some suckers jump around out there? Are they to be tasty smoked or something? Maybe I don't want to try, do try mullet? Send us a message right now? We got some quick and not just row. We won't know about the meat because mullet rose a thing, but like I don't know about that caviar. Yeah, I like the eggs rowe. Yeah, yeah, I actually watched the video on that the other day. Did you watch a lot of videos. They were talking about how expensive it is overseas. Really, yeah, how do we ship a bullet heavier? And it was maybe actually didn't new industry? Do you grosser? Tell us about your experience, because I know you and Brian see don't see eye to right often. Man. I was just so, I've never coastal fish at all. I've fished my whole life, but basically for bass and catfish, cats like best cat. For most of the time, I was just throwing whatever I wanted at these fish. And there's one day like the cloudy, rainy afternoon, I think like just cast after cast, I was catching fish cast and catch. Yeah, it's a good name. The worst part of this trip was having to carry a stringer full of fish out of out of the surf, walking half a mile down the beach to the truck. And you know you have I thought you were going to say the worst going to Walmart with Eric every day. I was having a fish with Eric, and I caught a lot of grass this week. You're a salad man, Yeah yeah, but I mean, hey, that's where the grass set the hook as hard as on the camera guy him like every time drag stripping He's likely gets the point we don't even turn around anymore, and he probably had a really interesting trip. I mean, you probably had a lot of excitement, didn't you. Yeah, there's a few times are like I got one and no one's looking. I'm like, I got one. Definitely, That's what earlier when you said that, me and Brian look at each other thousand I'm not exaggerating a thousand times. Who wins the award of most improved fishermen this week? I don't know that means you're not prey like Eric improved at all. Eric is as bad as real question like who did catch the biggest fish? Because I know you caught a pretty big trout, you're I think that red fish that you caught would probably be the biggest issue. That's what did you catch that on? That was? And that was my black and blue? Was it the ribbed worm? Yeah? Yeah, were catching on slim baits um on six slot jigheads to keep it out of the grass. And he has on a four pound chickhead with a power worm. It was actually a six of water and catches this monster redfish. It was actually a sixteen jig too. But Brian doesn't want to believe it because it's He doesn't want to believe the packaging of where we bought it because it's bigger than ever. But it says on the package sixty this is probably made of like bismuth or something. You know, it's not non toxic. Wait, Millenois, allow there, that was an ounced jigheads Brian's case. They love their toxics. Yeah, it's right. They fish the best spers, nothing like mich don't even know that is. She had a song called toxic. It was a pretty their song. Yeah, I don't know that. Yeah, it was about her hair falling out. Um have you ever seen the pictures pictures? Yea, so it fell out. We uh don't call trout. An interesting thing about trout is that trout um don't preserve well. I don't freeze very good. You need cooking pretty quick and when and if you're not from the coastal area, specifically the Gulf coast in Lower Atlantic, a speckled trout is not actually a salmon. It it is a croaker. What you're informing Mark, it's again here he's not gonna keep me that this is this is trout, but it's actually not a group. Yeah, Why why is it called a trout? I don't know. Probably because it's spotted up. See here's the thing that happens um through colonization throughout the fifteen sixteen seventeens. Uh. People came over from uh Europe, you know, different places, right, Spain, Portugal, France, um, Great Britain, and they have these things that they identified at home with and they don't know that there's you know, a whole new world out there. So they go into this place and they start naming things after the thing they saw. That's how pronghorn antelope are called antelope because we on Earth. You know, why are Indians called Indians? They're not from trout was the first trout? Uh? So the first trout would be a brown trout that would be what the Europeans would call a trout because they were sea run browns that are also kind of an Atlantic semita but different. Uh. And so they have all the same Yeah, they all have spots, all trout trout. Um. It's like Marlin, right, there's no difference in blue black stripes. Marlin. It's just a Marlin. It's like a yellow brown, chocolate and black labs. Same thing. That's for sure, the same thing. Yeah, a dog, circus dog. But yeah, that's why it's just like, uh there's uh like a perch, you know, or uh, what's another one? You know. Yeah, we call blue girls brim, but brim are actually pretty specific to Europe. But anyways, that's why they're called that. Um. Anyways, so we cooked trout one night for supper. We cooked a bit of fish. We did. We ate a lot of fish, if you ever got to say, but it's actually a croaker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a species, which is interesting to me. Everything except for flounder that y'all caught this week are croakers. So a red drum is closely rate related, which is a whole another deep dive we can talk about later. Um, but they are classified as croakers. So you know, a croaker would be uh, I wonder what differentiates something as a croaker. I would think it has something to do with their uh auto lithe or whatever that your bones called, because they can make a thing. Yeah, um, so are catfish croker's Yeah, that's that's what their jaw is it. I don't know, sounded good, that would be something. Yeah, the drum kind of yeah, so you know, black drum, freshwater drum. Uh true, croaker's uh speckled trout, sand trout, red rum whiting, that is correct, which golf kingfish is what that's actually called. Um. No one calls him that though. Uh, but yeah, those are all crokers. So you catch something that's a croker pretty much except for a flounder, which, funny enough, I figured out last night by looking on the etial slap that flounders are closer related to barrick whodas according to their like their order come over from for their families, their families. Y'all know that how classifications works at work of animals. So kingdom phileum order family genius or class genius species I got, I got that backwards. But kind people come over from Germany and Spain. That's how you feel, That's how you know the order of things. That's a that's right, that's what it is. A lie, that's just the way I remember things. Anyways, we cooked the croakers two in a row. We had a little sample first night, and then make burgers and burgers and croaks. Yeah, may give him the tip, the fish fry tip, the fish fry tip, yeah, the hot tip. No, it's just specific. Yeah, you have if you like to use a certain fish fry it's um. Well, I'm way too tard is Louisiana blue or something. Yeah, Louisiana seasoned blue um fish fry. Blue is not in the name. It's the color of the bag and it is taste with lemon and it'll be the greatest. It is really good. It's very very You gotta do nothing but dredge it. It is already seasoned. We didn't make any fish this week at this house that didn't taste pretty good. We didn't. We had some good food. Man, we did. Man, we did not. We've been here for how many nights? Four? We had three fish. Yeah, we have three hoots fish. It's pretty pretty good. So um here in the last evening we've had what we kind of just got it around and partook of was the surf and turf, like we're joking about we'll go. I do believe that when you talk about the turf a little bit and then we'll talk about the preparation of those times like that. Part took word like yeah, P A R T O O kay. Yeah, how you spell it, That's how I do thing like that. I like the word took and took her those words a lot. Um. Yeah, So the surf portion, you know, the turf portion, turf portion, sorry, the turf portion. Um. You and I are sitting in the in the area wherever area we were in, I can't remember, think, yeah, area unit fifty one, Um we were in. We're under a mesquite tree and we're on the shady side again one morning. Um, I think we'd had maybe a close encounter where the bug didn't pan out or something, and then we're kind of sitting there. So I you look over and you're like, hey, come, there's a Neil guy kind of coming this way, and he's coming fast. So we Uh, I had already shot a buck the day before, so I had my bow in cases. Like a bunch of Neil guy came by, we got to flinging arrows at him or whatever. Um, but my bow was sitting there with the quiver on, nothing knocked up, you know, and yours was yours was ready to go. You were the shooters something that morning, and I was the camera guy, and so I was really working hard on making a good video and getting all the what we call b roll and all that just helping to tell the story and this you're like, this thing is coming, well it ends up coming on my side. Um, they're coming, It's gonna end up coming on my side. And so you're just like, you know, hey, these things coming this way. You you know, we kind of like made this plan to move or whatever to kind of because it was gonna be on the down wind side of us, so we knew and we had to push you know, down wind to make sure it didn't get our wind before we could get a shot at it. And we kind of believe that he uh. We wanted to get as close as we could because that's what you do with our true equipment, So we thought we might need to gain some ground. It was it's again that make moves type hunting. Yeah. Yeah, So our ambush is not gonna work exactly like we wanted to, so we have to make a move to make sure we don't get winded and get a shot. And so excuse me, I'm sure. Um, so we uh we pushed down like ten yards and we see him and he's you know, in a hole in between the brush or whatever, and he's looking and then he keeps on and so we make another move or actually as we leave the first spot, You're like, hey, grab your bow, he's on your side. I'll grab the camera. And so I was like, okay, whatever. I didn't expect to get a shot at this thing because it just doesn't happen very often when like this, you know. But I was like, I'll at my bow, you know, and uh so I do even and there's a very kind gesture that you did, because um, we moved about a total of fifteen or twenty yards and all of a sudden he's like in our lap and he's he heard us or something, but he's just giraffe nicking, I mean, just looking hard high head. Tell the folks about Neil Guy for you. Yeah, you never see Neil Guy antelope. It's uh, this particular one was a big bull and he probably I mean he's got away like close to four in our pounds. He was huge. Um, and they have to like basically a ten or eleven inch spike would be a giant. So they got two of those on each side and or one on each side, so they got two total. And they're just they're just straight spikes. So they're not like impressive horned critters, but they are like, um, super muscular and like I mean, they they are some of the most muscular looking animals out there. They're very pretty too. They are They've got lots of colors. The bulls go like, as young, they're kind of red, and then as they grow in maturity they turn colors and they're called a blue bull whenever they're a fully mature bull. And this one was yeah, full blue, blue, gray, black, and all the colors in between. And then like they have these weird just white marks and colorations and spots on them and stuff. Um. They also have a beard that looks a lot like a turkey beard and feels like one too, and it comes off the front of their neck right in the middle up. So one of these things eat they eat anything green, and that's what it looks like. The uh No, I don't know. You don't think they would mean they might, but I didn't see him meeting in Yucca. Dude, those yuccas are dangerous. I have got five yucko holes in me. One of them is in my temper, the whole side of your head. If you were trying, if you hadn't grabbed one of those ones that's growing like a tree and tried to break the the yucka point. It's I'm I'm not kidding you. You could take one and put on the end of a spear and you could throw it through or into a neil guy and kill it. It's not It's like no other yucka's I've messed with. Most yuckas are kind of limber, these things, and like you operate this way when you go through the woods. I'm used to pushing through stuff. You don't push through these. They are immobile. They're hard. This they are very hard and also to make a lot of noise when they are dried out. The other day's walking by one and then my GoPro hanging off the side of my bag kind of like you know, to be able to capture things with that, and like my GoPro drug this yucka and I thought that the yuckos eating me. Dude, he doesn't get scared of things easily. In my ear hole, you know, like like all they're dead yuckle leaves. When they die, they fold down and there's just like layers of them what's scraped And it was like right the side of you know, freaked him out, But yeah, so um they have They also have like a little bit of a mane, but they're they're built a lot like a like a horse meets a like. They have a kind of a weirdly long neck, so almost I call them girafts, but like kind they are. They are. They gotta low back in and a super tall high front end um. They have like a big hump like in their spine between their shoulders, so like almost like a hog or something like that. And then when they're just like relaxed, and the blue bulls are like just head down straight out in front of them like either browsing or like dogg and does or whatever ridge I believe it's what that's called. So they have a Jurassic Park on their But they when they're just like relaxing their heads out from distance, they look huge. And we were calling them rhinos old. They look bigger at a thousand yards than they do at forty. Like when they're way off, they look like they might flip a car, you know what I mean, Like they're huge. But anyway, this bull catches us or hears us or whatever. And I'm not gonna make drag the story out too long, but basically he he uh, we do we have a stare down at like fifty, and I'm I'm ranging him with Casey's range finder and I'm hitting and I'm like okay, and so I put it down for a second, Um, real slow, and we're just looking at each other and I I mean real slow. And so when I pull it back up a little bit later to go range him again, UM, we're still staring at each other. And I hit him a couple of times, and like one of them was a fifty and the other two were like seventy eight and eighty. And I was like, what the heck is going on? Like I thought that was this bulls and range you know. And so I'm like, I'm like asking Casey, like is he fifty fifties and right? And he don't want to tell me because he don't want to be the guy that's wrong, you know, So he just like doesn't say anything the first like three times I asked him, you know, and finally he was like, yeah, he looks fifty. And so I was just having trouble with a range finder, you know, and and uh, and so I end up ranging this bush in front of him at thirty eight. Since I don't mean to interrupt your story again, but since you brought me into that. Part part of my problem is I don't know because these are such a weird animal that's a weird shape and they're huge. So when you say, does he look fifty, I'm thinking he's somewhere between forty and eighty. Yeah, you know, that's where I was at two. It's like because to me, I was hitting him at fifty, but then when I hit him seventy eight and eighty, I was and I was like being very still. I was like, well maybe, I mean, he's a huge animal, Like maybe he looks like he's fifty, but he actually is eighty because he's just big, you know. And so I was worried about that. Well, I end up ranging the bush in front of him at thirty eight to the front end of the bush, and so he goes behind the bush and we like stand up. So I think he's gonna walk out and I'm gonna try to get a shot over this kind of mesquite limb or whatever. Well, he doesn't come out for a second because he probably heard a stand up right Well. Uh after a second, I was like, okay, let's just sit back down if he's gonna stall out right there. So we sit back down in the grass, and he comes out the other side finally, and he's like pretty close. He's getting closer, and I was like, thinking, man, he's got to be forty five, forty something like that in case he goes, he's probably closer at forty now or whatever. He says that that bush is thirty eight, and I was like, when he said that, I knew the range finder was working and I knew he was close. So, uh, long story short, he comes out and gets in this mesquite limb. There's a mesquite limb that's in front of me, like probably less than ten yards and there's a big hole in it, and and so I'm like, I'm gonna shoot him through that hole right there. And so he has to work out over a little bit further. I'm pretty sure he might be winding us. At this point, he starts to get really high necked and um, and so he gets to my my, my gap. I draw back, and when I draw back, I can like, I can see I can put my forty on him, and I can see his vitals, but there's not much like headroom. So I start leaning over because there's bigger hole in the in the upper space of this whole um as I lean over and I start to run into k C. So I'm kind of affecting the footage and all that, but and also like knocking points and everything. But I had to lean pretty far shoot and he jumps the string and it hits him spine and he goes straight down, and I was like, holy smokes, unbelievable. It was frontal. You know, there's a when you think about it, on Neil Guy, if you shoot frontal good left and right, you've got like three foot of margin there, you know, if you and if you don't hit him in something in the in the spine pretty much, if you hit him in the neck, you don't hit him in the spine, they're probably gonna survive. After breaking a Neil Guy down, I mean that the thought the height is so thick, so muscular, but anyway, uh, I couldn't believe it. But he just goes straight down and so we get we run over there and I knock another arrow trying to get a shot, and you have to see all this footage, but I end up finally getting him killed, and it's it's like a really intense moment. If you've watched the mule deer hunt from this year that I had. It's a lot like that. It's just like a super emotional moment and uh, you know, I said it before a little bit, but like not a whole lot on the podcast at least. I mean, I this is something I wanted to do since I was like so young, Like was shooting Nilgai boy was something when you grew up in Texas, like you just you hear about these things that exist in your state that you can shoot, you know, and they just living in such a small space, and it's something you really want to do. It's cool. It's like nothing else you can do in North America. And I wanted it is for a long time, and uh, I didn't think I was gonna get the chance when that bull started working our way and Casey was just like offered it up, you know. So I was really thankful of that I got to do that to him, and uh, it was just a really cool moment and we ended up working our tails off threst. There was so much meat. Dude, he's so solid, it was wild. I'm glad you were the shooter because i'd have missed. Uh well, I feel like I missed it. It is a kind of a valid point to talk about here because you took this thing down with equipment that uh is one capable, um and put it that way first. But some people might poop poo on. Um. You shoot about a five grain era right with at arrows actually just less than or something like that, right, Yeah, and uh with three blay mechanical the biggest, the biggest, one of the biggest. We like them like kill stuff dead and I like to say, you shoot him in the soft stuff, they're gonna die. Well, you didn't shoot him in the soft stuff, trying a really hard thing. I hate him and still in the chesty neck. Yeah, up in that stuff. But um, it's still more than enough. Like it was enough force for you to shove a broadhead into the vertebra of a nil guy so far that you could not get it out. We tried to pull it out whenever we're cleaning him. By the way, if you're a necros person, nil guy are for you. Okay, that's a big old necroast on that thing. So we took the necroast off and found the broadhead in there and could not remove it. That's how hard it stuck in there. So like, UM, I'm not trying to tell you what you need to shoot you people out there, but I am telling you, like, just because you set up and work for you, I mean you don't work for other people. Everybody you know works differently. And I think in this situation, uh, the forgiveness of a mechanical in a less than ideal shooting scenario and a not by no means it's five light, but it's lighter than some Uh that gave you the window to shoot through that mesquite, I'm serious. I don't know if I could have shot through that window because I know the way my bow shoots, and I don't I don't think I could have taken that shot. Uh. So I'm glad you were the shooter in that situations for sure because it it definitely worked out. Well, yeah it did. It's just a dream come true, you man, something I want to do for forever. Pretty awesome, man. I decided not to catch any fish today, so I had a reason to come back down there and a hasty treat because we got to surf and turfy tonight. As they say, right, we did Neil guy backstrap steaks, which is simpler the better, right, Just a little bit of seasoning and some butter and they were delicious. And then we did red fish on the half shell, which was also delicious. Thank you guys for for for for providing the red fish. Um. I caught one piggy purcha this afternoon, a very large one, and decided to let him go because it wouldn't be near as good as a red fish. But it just really made for an immaculate closing to really, uh, what's potentially the best element trip of the year. I mean it's hard to say we've we've been super blessed. Yeah, for real throughout this hunting season with all kinds of great encounters, cool stuff, great good health, you know, like it just you can't beat it. But this was just really really cool. I mean what you were talking about, Brian, you were talking about how you just couldn't have envisioned that you could hammer the fish like this, right, It's hard to envision. I think whenever you plan a trip, you always envision it's going good, but usually it's a lot harder than you envisioned. I think this trip was it just went as I envisioned. It was like it was just a dream come true. You always dream of of wade fishing and in twenty inches of crystal clear water kitchen twenty eight inch trout some of your best friends, and that's what happened for five days. Best friends. But yeah, you always envisioned a trip going good and man, it's this won't be hard to beat this. This is a really good trip and we had a lot of fun, um and we got a lot of fish. Yes, sir um, you're basically from Canada. Yeah, was this just like a weird thing for you? It was like I'm on Mars. Yeah, yeah, I figured the desert with crystal clear water. It's like where where am I? If you have to marry a girl from Ohio or South Texas? Which one are you picking? Ohio or South Texas? South Texas? Here? Yeah, there be careful, probably Ohio. It's a whole different language. Yeah, it's perfect. What you made up another word this week? What was it? Oh? I don't even know. Make poison. That's not making it up, that's just not talking. There was another one to I think I can't remember. That's funny. We're talking about rumps. What we're talking about rumps for like a old bump or something like that. Yeah, I can't remember what it was. You get real tired on trips like this because you just blowing and going and you end up slurring your words and combining things and doing all this stuff. Yeah, I called something a rump the other day. I can't meal a while, but it's pretty funny. I said, I got a booting my water one day. Yeah. Yeah, did also Pete on go pro one time heading Mount go Pro? Did you go in and delete that or what happened to that file? I'm pretty sure we still got it. We still got it. It's just can you see extremely pie better look through? I'm definitely not looking at Michael do. Yeah, this videos needs to be reviewed well. On that. I think we've got some packing up to do because we were leaving in the more in the head back home, uh, and pretty much prepare it's a reload situation. Prepare for the next hunt. I got a lot of stuff going on. Who knows, uh, we might even have somebody going out on a white tail hunt this week, drop that little bomb in there? Who would that be? We gotta think about that. What any meet he might emo? Are you? I would like to be? Okay? Good? Um? So anyways, Uh, guys look forward to the video from this. I don't know how this all comes together. We might do some catch clean cook type stuff. Um, we're gonna show you how we did the trout, Show me how how you how we did you see? I told you we can't talk show you how we did the red fish. Uh, you can't really release the neil guys, or we caught them, for sure. It might show you how to cook that. Uh, but there'll be some of the stuff either coming out on the Element channel. Who knows, you might even see this on METI, your main channel at some point in time to uh. So, uh be aware of all that happening. I hope you're still able to get out and have fun this time. Or you know, if you're from like Michael's home country, it's just gray and wide up there right now. So maybe do people hard water fish where you're from? What like ice fish? Uh? Not Ohio? No, like Harry doesn't freeze over anymore anymore. Yeah, global warming? Here we go. My dad used to ice fish all the time, but not anymore. Got you in like fifteen years? Yeah? PG, do we fish? Yeah? How did you do? We're using that worm we just started? Well, remember, guys, if you can't ice fish where you either go south and you can fish the coast or go further north. You'll find some ice. 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