00:00:00 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Tyler Jones and you're listening to another Big Bug breakdown from the Element podcast. What's Happened on My Woods People? I'm sitting in a warm truck right now, to the point that I'm about to about to be sweating. Casey, what are you doing? Dude? Such a similar scenario, except mine as a minivan. So that's cool. Neither one of these vehicles are our own vehicles though, right I'm I'm in a rentom minivan and you're in a borrowed truck. So it's just the way we roll. Man. I have on sweatpants and extra lnger on top, and I'm in the sunshine. It's like forty degrees outside. But it's that that's exactly. It's cold outside. It's like forty degrees outside right here, and I'm just in the sun. Man beating on me. Where are you? Man? I'm I can't really disclose exactly where I'm at, but I got drawn for a hunt in Texas. Um that's a pretty good hunt from what I understand, Um, not from what I have experienced so far. Uh, but uh yeah, that's what That's what I'm up to. And and uh understand that you have been doing some fishing, I think, right, I have. I've been doing a lot of familying, but I did get to fish some fitting in there, and i've been Uh. We're in Aspen, Colorado, which if you've never been here, don't uh, but don't be here. Don't be here. Don't be here. Um, there's the other towns that are way cooler and half away, less gucci and prodest science on the storefronts uh. But anyway, it's been nice for what it is, especially for the first week in November. But I have gotten to do a little bit of fishing. I call a little brown shock yesterday but this morning. Here's the thing, when you go on family trips, you're kind of limited on when you can actually go do your thing, you know. And everybody in this family sleeps till like ken. So when I get to go is early in the morning because I'm up right now, I'm waking up at like four am because of time change and everything. Um, which if you know much about fishing for trout, like the daylight stuff in the winters or the colder times especially, is really tough. Like they personally, I like to fish midday in the evenings a lot more but it is what it is. This morning went to the frying Pan River, which is probably one of my new favorite rivers. I'll love the frying Pan. There's some private you gotta watch out for. But along with that private comes like some really good fish. And it's a tail water, so it's kind of consistent temperatures all year long. Um, and a fish for like forty five minutes on like the pocket water didn't have a lot of great luck. And then we had to go back to get on this phone call. Um. But I kind of get gave myself like a twenty minute cushion, you know how I do how always trying to like cusha. It's like, okay, if I got another spot to stop, I will. And so I found this one spot that was like right next to the private uh kind of kind of a weird little pull off thing, and uh I knew it was like a cliff right there on the river. It would remind you like of that like eating a hole of broken boat. Um, and uh, it's like there's gonna be a big fish in there. So I cut off all my my junk flies. Worms. I've been fishing worms and stuff, you know the same one worms because it's wintertime or whatever. UM, and I tied on the streamer and I went down there. In the first cast, I moved a big fish and I was like, oh my goodness, here we go. So the next five minutes, I like cast in there and I missed like three different big fish. And finally I casted all the way across, did a big mend so that my my streamer could sink all the way down UM, and then stripped through and then hooked up big end in the rod and I was like freaking out and ends up it's about a nineteen inch slob rainbow like big uh, starting to kind of hook nose kind of. I think it's really a hen um or female, but so it doesn't really have the cop but like you used the other I was just kind of change shape when they get older because their predators and uh, just crazy cool fall colors and just beautiful fish man. So I kind of made the made the trip for me, you know, like it stinks to not be hunting in Texas, UM this week or elsewhere, but uh, you know what, like it's just we're doing this all to have fun and we're trying to be family man, you know. Along the same time. And uh, my family is good to me and trying to be here for them too. So we've had a good time. Man. But I can't wait to get back and do some public land hunting. Yeah, I can't wait too. I'll tell you this. I've been doing some public land hunting this year, Yeah, quite a bit. And yeah, I cannot wait to just kill a deer. You know, Like the public land hunting thing is something that I I got, I've got my feel of, and I would I definitely like to do it. So I'm not like fool, I guess you could say, but uh, you know, I figuratively I had my my feel of. Yeah, and I'm ready to kill. Asked on this big buck breakdown, I can got to give you some insight on how to do that because it seems like he does it way more than anyone even should. Ye he I think he does. So our guest is a guy um that tends to kill bucks on public land in Texas. Maybe he will have some advice for me. Maybe he will, So let's just get him on the phone. This is Dan Balier. Hey, y'all real quick, before we get the Dan's Big Buck breakdown, I want to let you know about something really cool. I've been doing my Exodus lift too on my own personal property. I've been running this camera in hybrid mode, which captures a real high quality image and then stacks that right on top of a full HD video. You can watch the video, learn about dear movement, behaviors, patterns, different things that are going on in the area. You have the camera set up, and then you also have this high quality image that you can save. Now why I like this feature is because I don't always like to take up a ton of room on my computer or hard drives with all those videos. But I still like to watch him and learn from him. So what I do is watched the video, save the photo, and then note on the photo what's going on at that moment in time. Really cool features something I love to use with these cameras. Now let's get to Dan and that's why. All right, So now on the phone, we've got Dan Bheler. Dan, you have done the unthinkable, at least for me and Casey actually killing like you know, a legal buck on Texas Public. On the other end of the spectrum, Casey has killed the Spike side of the spectrum. But um, yeah, you're on the You're on the big buck side of it, dude. Um, and this isn't your first time, man, I mean this is uh, this is kind of a common occurrence. It feels like, well, I'd like to thank soo. Um. You know feel like anytime I you shoot something on public landed and uh, it kind of hangs around for longer anyway, Uh kind of sticks with you. So it uh definitely a big deal with me. I mean, I know it is you'll you'll know how it is. But people and lack of deer and or anything, h um didn't really get anything down, even a spark on public land community. You know. Yeah, man, It's it's tough, man. I mean, anywhere you go, it's it's a tough thing to do. But uh, Texas just as far as the places I've been, I mean, it's just it's pretty tough. I was telling a guy he was asking um a question on YouTube the other day. He's like, Hey, I'm transferring down to Texas. I'm gonna start hunting the polk lands. I don't know anybody down there and this and that. Um He's like, you know, I got any tips for me? And I was like, one of the tips that I put in this response was, um, if you can see it on the map, then it probably has a stand hanging on it, even if it's way back, you know what I mean? And so and and so that just I don't know. We've we've walked in so many times to a spot that I'm like, man, this is gonna be good. And it's like a mile and a half back in there, and there's a standard two in there, and it's like that gumming or and dealer. Yeah, we you know one time. Yeah, yeah that's true. Yeah there, yeah, that's how that's actually how we met was on public land. Uh, we were hunting the same spot, so uh yeah, pretty cool. Yeah, we we we left that spot alone. And I don't know if you still hunt it or not, man, but we left that spot alone because we knew that you had been posted everything at some point and we didn't want to We didn't want to go in there and and bother you and any deer you might have been chasing. So so thanks for kicking us out. But anyway, you killed the good buck. Man tell us the story this. But because this is this is something that's just an anomaly to us. Man, Well, I think I probably had some of the same problem jawed last year. UM, just hunters everywhere, UM, some spots that maybe hadn't had a whole lot of hunters in them years before. But one morning I sat in my stand and had throughout the morning had six hunters walked within a hundred yards of me. Um so, and that was the worst day. But it was kind of the same thing every single day. In fact, I don't know how much public land hunting I did how many days, but I think of all the days that I hunted public land in Texas last year, I don't think I saw legal deer um. So it was really really slow. The rumors are true, that's for sure. Uh. So this year I started, I'd get out and looked for some new spots and everything, and actually ran into kind of like what you were just talking about. There were places I picked out. I picked out almost a single tree on the map and said I'm gonna walk into it looks like basically at this tree, and would find fans at the exact place I was looking for on the map. Um And got out there and hunt some trail cameras pretty early, uh you know, August dish and uh that proved to be useless as usual. Um No, there's this absolutely poily uh, and I'll probably do it again next year for some dumb reason just like us or we're just like eat one or the other. I don't know why. I get out there and I stepped on a water barkston out there this yearning like like literally, I looked down and hanging out from under my boot was the tail of a water boxing. So yeah, that would have I wouldn't have needed any sticks or a climber or nothing that would have been in the tree. If that had happened, I've been ready to hunt that was I wasn't wasn't too happy, but I don't think he was either. U So yeah. So I had a couple of different spots this year where I put some cameras out and I was getting lots of lots of bucks on camera, but they were all spots the four points that aren't legal. And um, I think I had two legal deer up until I shot this deer on the one fixt of October. I think, Um, I think up until then, I had two legal bucks on Karen. This is one of them. Um, and he's got a split G two on his left side, and so he's pretty recognizable in the pictures. UM, so he was he was actually really regular. Um Uh. I had him one night on camera three times within an hour in the exact same direction in front of the camera. I don't know if he's going circles around the tree or what are you doing? Um, but I had Sometimes I'll put two cameras in in the same area, um, pretty close to each other if I think there's deer in there. So, like this area where I shot him, there not necessarily a trail that goes through there, but I know from seeing deer and from pictures of deer that that there's a lot of deer that kind of moved through there in different spots, um. And so what I'll do if I'm behind the spot like that a lot of times is I'll hang a camera there to kind of get an idea, and if I decidn't the hunting there, I'll put another one. Sometimes this close is like twenty yards away, And so basically what I'm trying to do is get a better idea of how they're coming in or out of that area instead of just I know he's right here at this you know, at this one spot, But you don't know what he's doing left or right of the frame or behind it. Uh. So that's why that's why I didn't in this spot. And uh that not that that he was three times in front of that camera. Uh, he wasn't on the other one that was twenty yards away. He was never on it. Um. So that's to me, that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's the same year is not on that camera. That just tells you that they're not walking that way. UM. So I kind of used that to learn a little bit about um. So what's going on? Amy, let's driver past? Sorry about that, um And uh so I bet I had this, dear, I don't know, maybe every third day for a couple of weeks in October. Um So, like I said, he was, he was really regular. Um. And so I thought if I could get a good wind and get in there and hunt, it was kind of just a matter of time really, um until he'd show up. And Uh the day I went in there, the wind was it wasn't great. Um. But then again on pot of land sometimes if the wind's not great, you just turned around and hunt the other direction. I mean, you can't. You gotta play the wind. But at the same time you're you know, you don't know where a hunter is gonna come from or something like that. So uh, it wasn't great. It was kind of off the back of my right shoulder. Uh. And I thought he was gonna come out at about my one o'clock or so. UM, and I'll walked in that morning. There has been no moon that night, um, walk has been raining all night. Uh walked in that morning. It was sprinkling, just barely, which I love when it's when it's raining, actually, especially after a rain. And I was really surprised I didn't spook any deer going in there. It was probably a mile and a half or so in and uh, this spook any deer. Didn't see any deer. UM. So I sit there like seven thirty in the morning, probably fifteen minutes or so after uh sunrise, and kind of sitting there depressed. I couldn't believe I hadn't seen anything, uh even those or anything. And I look up and he's walking out exactly where I thought he was going to um at probably thirty five yards. And from from the time I first saw him toss shaw it happened really fast. I'd be really surprised. It was more than like eight or nine seconds from when I looked at him. So I grab my boat and let it fly. Uh, it was super fast. Basically he walked out. I was like, yep, he's legal, grab a boat, grew back, kind of talking my head to the left, look at him one more time, and I thought I saw that little split on his G two. Um, and so it stopped him and he was perfectly broadside to me. Um, he didn't have any care in the world, didn't know I was there at all. Uh, he did stop. My granted at him, But um, I shot him. Um, actually I'm not sure yet, or I guess I never will be what happened with this shot. Uh, it sounded a little funny. I need to shoot a shot of posting, and I hadn't been hunting or anything, but um telling a little funny traveling through the air. Uh, like I was making a little more noise than normal. Um. But when I hit him, I was a little a little far back, which was actually my fault. I was just kind of hating that direction. But um, yeah, I mean it sounded actually pushed the watermelon, so I knew the shot was pretty good. Um, but it didn't pass through. Um, and it was a thirty yard shot. Uh. I was using a two inch grim reaper. I think every deer I've ever shot with one of those has been passed through pretty much matter where I hit him. UM. So a little shocked when that happened, and he ran off with the barrel sticking out of him. Um. He ran about eighty yards or so um and kinda was back broad side to me again, kind of made a half a circle and uh he went behind some like some small cedar trees and little saplings and stuff, and disappeared behind those and never came out the other side. Uh. So I was pretty sure he was down right there, But I was a little worried because, Um, like I said, it was sprinkling, and I thought some more rain might be coming. So I probably only hung out in the stand for about two minutes before I decided to get down and and go to where I shot him and see if I could find some wood. Um. I didn't really want to waste too much time, And it was so quiet in there from the rain that I didn't think, you know, I wasn't worried about him hearing me walking around or anything like that. So UH walked over there and looked around for five minutes. I couldn't find a drop of bullet anywhere. UM kind of camera. He was actually what I thought was right in front of the camera when I shot him. So I went and checked the card real quick to see where he was standing. It didn't take a picture of him, of course. So then I went back over there, and I'm standing. I'm kind of stuck and guessing where he was at. But I knew like there was a small little trail right there. I knew. I'm like, I know he had to be right here. I kind of getting depressed at this point, you know, all the bad thoughts are creaking into my mind. Uh got my head down, kind of hunched over, and I looked at him between my feet. There's a massive pile of wood right in between my feet that was close to that watermarks andrs and uh. And so I followed the blood trail for probably ten yards, and I thought I could see a white belly through some trees. Um. But at this point I hadn't been very long. So I just stood there for another twenty minutes or so, UM, trying to have the bknoculars that I had my range finder, so I was looking through my range finder. It never did move, and yeah, so I was kind of wondering if it was a log or not. So I fallen the bloodshell a little bit longer to where I could I got a little closer. I probably kicked the yards from him when I could tell, uh tell it was him. And so the shot, like I said, with the shot, still not a hundred percent sure what happened on the entrance, Um, it didn't pass through. But to make matters worse, when he fell, he I don't know if he had kind of wiggled that era out a little bit or what happened. But when he fell, he landed on the knock of the air and pushed it back through his guts. And so then I had a mess. Yeah. Yeah, you always hear people. They always makes me laugh. People are like, oh, yeah, I shot this deer and I never found him. But the broad had deflicted off of one of his ribs, and like, how do you know what happened? He didn't find the deer, I found this buck. I still don't know what happened. And uh, anyway, so yeah, he was, um, he's a like an eight point frame. I guess, um, but he's he's he is an eight point but he's got to split G two on his left side, um, missing a G three on that side. And uh, like I said, I was pretty far back there, and I'm I know this won't make a sense. I'm too cheap for a cart, but I got an Exo mountain gear pack. Um, so those two things don't really go together. But I hould him out of there. I ended up having a gun and use full of acorns and everything. And uh, I strapped him on my XL pack and uh, holding out of there that way and faulding out hole. Yeah, hole, that's uh. I might have a selfie of that. I don't know, Um, but he I definitely wouldn't recommend it. I've hold a hundred a hundred hundred ten pounds helped me before. That was not just from away standpoint, but from a balance standpoint. Was way easier than this because he was swaying inside to side. I'm not kidding you. He told me I better took six or seven minutes for me to stand up. I got that backsack on. I was, I was like I had a tree in between my legs and I was hugging onto it, trying to pull myself forward and uh, yeah, what I need, that's for sure. And so he ended up way and he was gutted. He was a hundred fifty two pounds, which was I've never actually waited to buck, uh from this area, and I would have guessed like a hundred thirty. Yeah, I mean I think he's a three year old. Uh so I want to guess about a hundred thirty. But uh yeah, he's a hundred fifty two. And so then that made even maybe my legs hurt even more when I read that. It was funny. Man, that's awesome. Uh he's uh, I said, I mean he's plenty good for me on public land, you know, you know like that every time. Oh man, he's a toad. And that's like I'm right there with you when you sit here and it's like take god, damn, be there killed the public land buck and it's a toad. Uh. And again, hugengrass Man, because it's just so cool to see, you know, good people, you know, have good things happen to him. And and I've done with the year, put the work in to make it happening. And it's pretty self evident when you talk about how much truck camera work and how far back an you were and packing him out and all that stuff. But you know, with those trail cameras and stuff, it kind of gave you some confidence to make some moves and U you kill that buck for like at least me and Tyler really early in the year for public, because I mean we've gone and done quite a bit of copper hunting. Don't get me wrong, but we we have a tough time until you know, really mid November it gets here on Texas Public and then I know you talked about, um, how pressure last year was just terrible, and we kind of saw the same thing. Um, which one of those factors kind of played in more to uh, you know you going in there and and getting that done kind of earlier in the season. Was that the looming pressure and hunting that comes to November? Was it something else? Um? Well, no, that's part of it. Um, Definitely there's more pressure in November. But yeah, to be honest with you, I seem to I seem to get a lot of good pictures like the week of October, starting like October the fifteenth or so, UM, and it's been that way for uh, you know, a few years, um. And it only lasts about a week. So I was actually glad that I didn't pull the cards out of my cameras when I went in there that morning, because the last time I've been in there was like probably eight or nine days before that to check those cameras. And since I had checked them the time before, I had on two cameras, I had one spoke my camera and that was it. Um. So. And I've seen that pattern a few years in multiple different areas, um where I'll get a lot of pictures of bucks grouped up together the week of October fifteen, sixteen, and then the week of the it drops off dramatically. Um. And I I'm not gonna sit there and say I know why. I really don't have a clue. I don't know if it's just the spot, or if it's they're doing something different, you know, or if they're just a void in the spot for whatever reason. Um. But that's just a pattern of steam so um And And you know, I've I've seen groups. I've seen a group of five bucks running together um as late as October eight or nine, within within probably ten miles of this spot I was hunting, um And so I honestly thought he would be with another buck. And on camera he had been a little small uh not legal six point every time he come through, but that morning he was by himself. Um, So that kind of caught me off part. But really it was the fact that I thought, Um, I thought I might get a group of bucks that was still together coming cruising through there or something. Yeah, so what what do you assume that deer was doing when he came through there that morning? Was he looking, was he getting kind of where he was cruising in that kind of thing? Or do you think he was feeding on oaks or under the oaks? And yeah, I think I think he was probably feeding. I mean he he didn't you know, and who knows, but he didn't really from what I could tell, he didn't really have any signs. But like he was, you know, on a trail or anything like that. Um And like I said, is he hadn't been eating anything. But I mean there was there was no corn, no, you know, no he no green, no anything is belly except for acres. Um. And and where I was sitting is in a bunch of oak trees. Uh. And you know, you know, I'll get pictures of deer hanging out in there for thirty minutes or so eating at the time. So, um, that's my guests. But that's as good as it is as a guest. Yeah are you? So? Are you? Would you say that you're targeting the oaks where you're hunting there or are you targeting just deer traveling through a specific area. No, really, I'm traveling. I'm targeting deer traveling through an area. Strategy is that. Sure, deer have to eat, but they spend more time getting to where they're gonna eat than getting back than where they're actually eating. Um. And so I I feel like my chances are better trying to figure out how the deer using the land, you know, how they're using this catch woods, merchants into this creek or whatever. Um. Then they're trying to figure out, oh, they're feeding on this. So I'm gonna go set on this, you know what I mean? Man, that's pretty interesting. That's that's something that like we we've done, but I hadn't really ever thought of it that way. Um, exactly like you always, I don't know. You hear a lot of hunting media based around white tails that includes either bedding or feeding one or the other, and then how do you get in between that or close to one or the other. And you don't really hear a lot about just you know what. I don't know where he's bedding, I don't know where he's feeding. But I'm gonna I know that deer used this area a lot and they walk through here a lot because the trail cameras, So I'm gonna I'm gonna hunt it, you know. And that's kind of what we are, I guess you could say plagued with in Texas A lot of times when you're hunting public land, is this this idea that like there's oak trees everywhere, Like how do you target how do you target a specific oak that the deer eating under? You know? I mean there there are times when maybe you can do that to an extent, but it doesn't matter because there's always a post stoke or a swamp oak that's putting off or or the if the acorns have been put off there the tannins have finally diminished enough that they want to eat on or whatever. Like it's so much information to process and there's no you know, even I'm sure you know this, but like there's it's hard to find a betting area. I mean they just go into thick stuff, you know what. Yeah, so it's interesting man. I like that and um, like you used to the trull camera strategy there, even though your camera doesn't always go off when deer coming through. But but congrats man with it with that deer man and that that uh, that's something that I'm really looking forward to to trying to make happen this year. Um No, I've never shot uh public Land, Texas deer, so I'm hard after it right now and we'll be later in this month and I hope to have a little bit of that look. So uh, congrats man, it's an awesome buck. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for jumping on the phone with this man, and uh keep in touch. Oh yeah, well Dan is for sure killer. Um you know yeah, I'm starting to question I used to think that I was, but I'm starting to question that now. I uh, you and I have been seen by a lot of deer this year. We have, man, and that's kind of a new thing. And then people on on YouTube want to rageous because they think, do you blind deer are seeing as too, So that's fun here. Oh yeah, that's fun. Yeah. Man, it's just when you're pushing the limits, it's gonna happen, you know. But I think that you gotta the difference in that is that you're gonna spoak some deer, but you gotta make sure and capitalize the times you don't spook deer. And I think that's that maybe not that we need to do a better job of that, but we just need to make and make sure and ensure that that happens throughout the rest of the season. Did you get seen recently? Yeah? Did? And you you know that you just don't know the story the the uh this morning, Um, I'm coming in and I'm there as early as you and I as early as I've hunted this year, you know, I mean except four the day we switched we move stands, yea, and I how do you have my stand set and everything? Like? Um, I mean, it's I'm good, it's dark. I'm walking in on my head lamp and I get to you know, where I'm hunting. But it's a it's like a semicircle of trees that's kind of just adjacent to a big chunk of trees. And there's a there's a north and south trail. It goes down the east side of it. So I'm coming in from the west and I get to like, I don't know, fifty yards from my stand, and I got a pretty bright head lamp, and I can see eyes, and so I start to I'm like, dad, coming, it's right there, like four yards from my stand on on the east trail east and west, or the north and south trail on the east side, and um, I start to get closer, and I'm like, man, those eyes are pretty far apart, like this is it's either a big dough which I jumped coming in yesterday, or a buck, you know. So um, anyway, I got like four or fifty yards left to go. I just take my light and like try to blind that sucker. Like I just I don't take my head off, you know. I don't like put I don't look over at my stand. I keep my head pointed in the direction of that deer. I've done that for it works. Yeah, I just I don't want the deer to see me. And if I have the light, you know, on the ground in front of me, it's gonna see my silhouette, you know. So I just point my light at it and go all the way to the tree and then I turned my light off. When I get there, clip my bow on, climb up as quiet as I can, I get dress, do all the stuff that I'm supposed to do, set the camera up and everything, and I do it really quietly. And it's pretty cold this morning, but it is so calm, dude, it is nothing, no when And I mean I could have heard a mouse down on the ground, you know, just walking real slow. I mean, it was just crazy quiet and so um, I kind of get ready and get my hands in my pocket, you know, and it's starting to get a light finally, and I can kind of see a little bit, so I I turned around real slow. Um. But to see behind me on the other side of this tree line, I have to, like, I have to shift my feet, so I do it slow. And when I get them shifted around and turned my head at like fifty yards, there's a legal buck. And by illegal I mean a pretty good buck. I don't know how big. I haven't even looked at the footage yet, um, because I got a little bit footage of him from a long distance, but I mean legal being you know, Um, per the public land rules in Texas. So yeah, yeah, exactly. So um, and he looked pretty pretty tall as well. And anyway, I just he was looking right at me and he he ran off. He blew like two or three times, but every time that he looked back, he never looked in my direction again. So I just don't know that he saw me very good. And then he gets out there like a hundred fifty yards and he starts walking back to me, and it's like, calm down. It looks like well yeah, And so I'm like, is this sucer like trying to bed in here and he needs he's wanting to come back. You know, he didn't see me good enough, and so he's like coming or whatever. And then uh, finally starts kind of going to the left, and then um, I like look, he like goes behind a tree branch in the camera viewfinder. So I start to move the camera and so I take my eyes off of him for a second, and when I look back, he's gone. And so I take the camera around and don't see him the viewfinder. And then I look up and I'm like, where is this dude? Like he's out in the open. I should be able to see him, and I finally I had the like he had been looking, you know, so I didn't want to move much. So anyway, I finally had the nerve, but like get my bonos up. He was like probably a hundred twenty yards and I could not find him with the buyos. So I was like, did he bed down here? And I had to go back and watch the footage like ten minutes later and figure out that he like kind of took off on like a jog to the left and just disappeared. I don't know where he went so or something. I don't know. I think he was just still shook up and yeah, everything, man, I don't know. It's just frustrating because I saw him and then I had a dough I rattled the dough in later on. Uh yeah, came out of like forty yards. I was about to smoke her and she couldn't get her to come all the way in because the kyle. I also rattled a coyote in at the same time, so that was fun um. And yeah, so she saw it and we never would come over close to me. But man, it's kind of a long way to say that I've had a black luster hunt. So far, even though I've seen what appears to be two shooter bucks and on both days it's just kind of most they were kind of long distance, you know, I guess the one it was, so well, dude, I hope you. I mean, you got one close this morning, so you know, you just keep pushing and keep keep closing in on it. It It will happen for you, dude, to mean, you're hunting a good spot and you're good hunter. So thanks, thank that. I think it can happen for sure. I feel good about it. I hope you're right. Man, You've got some some more intail too. It's gonna lead you towards the big BUCkies. Yeah, yeah, I hope. So man, I'm gonna move stands this afternoon, so we will see. We'll see what happens tonight. And I sure would love to have some successes. I've hunted a lot of days so far this year and have not loosen an arrow. So anyway, um, well, as far as that goes, we are at a pretty much stand still on the video content. I'm struggling to not be hunting long enough to edit videos. So if it's not a church or hunting, I'm kind of uh pretty much. I don't have one of those days, so there's no there's no third option. Yeah, so I haven't edited any footage yet, but there's a pretty good footage on the on the dock and uh, we just were just you know, I just need a couple of days. So if I can tag out now and uh and get a couple of days before we head up to Kansas, man, that would be great. But who knows what's gonna happen. And I'm gonna just try to have a good spirit about it and just enjoy this hunt man, because it maybe a long time for a draw any in. Who knows it's taxes man? You never well, good luck at that. And I can't wait to get up to Kansas, don't will you? All right? Man? Well, I guess I will. I'll see you then and uh, um we do. Let's see Thursday we've got Uh, I will recap that's right, That's right. I knew we had something, so yeah, I will recaps coming Thursday. So I hope you guys, um can be inspired by that and uh and enjoy that that story, I guess more than I enjoyed putting it together. But anyway, guys, I appreciate you. Listen. Remember this is your element living. I can see across and it still looks in sane. It's a right

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