Steven Rinella talks with guests Mark Boardman from Vortex Optics, Ryan Callaghan from First Lite, along with Rick Smith, Garret Smith, and Janis Putelis from the MeatEater crew.

Subjects discussed: Mark’s Sitka blacktail deer hunt; policy on checking in with loved ones when on the road; diving for sea cucumbers; water weenies; paralytic shellfish poisoning; eel skin wallets; blacktail liver; sea cucumber tasting notes; MeatEater on Netflix; grotesquerie as a selective advantage; smelly suspenders; and more.