Episode 054: Steven Rinella talks with Carmen Vanbianchi along with Janis Putelis from the MeatEater crew. 

Subjects discussed: squid jigging birthday parties; invasive mongoose; mist-netting song birds; the Bison Boys; prejudice against women in the world of carnivore field research; life advice Steve likes to give now that he’s older and wiser; grrr and grit; darting cougars and helping them down from trees; kill site analyses; the correlation between animal interaction and empathy; trapping wolves for research; treadle trigger systems; Jared Diamond; de-scenting trail cameras for wolves; and more.