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Steven Rinella talks with John Oakleaf, Vicente Ordonez, and Karl Malcolm of the US Forest Service, along with Janis Putelis of the MeatEater crew.

Subjects Discussed: Mexican gray wolves; taxonomic lumpers and splitters; historic sub-species of wolves in North America; Cormac McCarthy’s The Border Trilogy; wolves and livestock depredation; the Endangered Species Act; tainted bait for trappin’; foothold traps for wolves; roadkill buffalo; how many elk do wolves kill?’; wandering wolves; a correction re: brevited and brigadier generals; and more.

-Related Links and Notes-

The Subspecies of Canis lupus

The Interlopers by Saki.

This research study on the Effects of control on the dynamics of an adjacent protected wolf population in interior Alaska

Steven Rinella’s book, American Buffalo, where he talks about wolf-bison predation and the methods used by commercial wolfers of the 19th Century.

Cormac McCarthy’s The Border Trilogy.